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US president 2020
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Who do you want to be US president in 2020? strawpoll.me/18807120
2019-10-17 22:12
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#1
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Ezzzz BTW add Hillary.
2019-10-17 22:15
#2
cadiaN | 
Russia Pushkins 
Andrew Chong the chinese proxy
2019-10-17 22:13
#3
nEGRo | 
Afghanistan ZeakON 
Where is Kanye? and Kim?
2019-10-17 22:13
Kim is in Korea)))))
2019-10-17 22:15
#4
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Russia Hellyer 
You take a billionaire...
2019-10-17 22:14
Elkjaer Sindaco
2019-10-17 22:14
#Yang gang
2019-10-17 22:15
>Bernie heart attack >Biden bankrupt >Warren runner up for democrats >Failed to impeach Trump >Yang useless until 2024 (if more subtle about gun control) Trump 2020 almost guaranteed
2019-10-17 22:15
That's just wrong. Trump winning is extremely unlikely considering he's fucked in the Midwest (Which got him elected).
2019-10-17 22:16
Who will win tho
2019-10-17 22:17
Depends on who the Democrats nominate. If it's another corporate cuck like Biden, then Trump has a chance. But anyone else will beat him in the Midwest.
2019-10-17 22:18
#23
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United States PsychoLogical 
Biden and Warren would get trashed to oblivion. Especially Warren.
2019-10-17 22:23
#48
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United States FarCentrist 
Actually the opposite lol. Biden could win texas, the others have no chance.
2019-10-17 22:30
Biden has no chance. The guy looks lost, and the attack ads will destroy him.
2019-10-17 22:31
#53
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United States FarCentrist 
So who has a chance against him? Bernie sanders? lmao. Im sure moderates will vote for him.
2019-10-17 22:32
They will.
2019-10-17 22:34
#60
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United States FarCentrist 
As a registered democrat I sure as hell wouldn't.
2019-10-17 22:34
You're not the only person voting though.
2019-10-17 22:37
I'm guessing you live in a highly liberal part of the union and are surrounded by fellow liberals. Biden really is the only one who has a chance due to him seeming more moderate to most so he would get some trump voters (Trump is center/right and not a conservative. Conservatives only voted for him because of his immigration rhetoric). All the others are way too far left for most Americans including democrats. The democrat party moved too far to the left to quickly. I think they believed that Americans have moved further left than they really have. The younger gens seem to have moved far left in the past 15 years, but most, as they get older, turn more towards the center or right. Watch, after the dems lose this election I think you'll start seeing them back-off on some of their far left rhetoric. Idc about any of this so please do not take what I say personal. It's just my guess and general observation. I have no dog in this fight because I do not participate in politics.
2019-10-17 23:09
Nice fakeflag
2019-10-17 23:06
By this point everyone on HLTV should know I live in Virginia. I am very open about it and have never hid where I'm from. I've also used the Swiss flag since I first signed up on HLTV in 2014. (This is my second account, first got deleted due to not signing on for a year in 2016.)
2019-10-17 23:08
Standard centrist corporate take on the election. I don't consider affordable health care as far left. And I'm probably way more right wing than most people on this website. The only thing that will hold the Dems back is their Immigration rhetoric.
2019-10-17 23:10
I don't understand how my take is a 'standard centrist corporate' take on the election. It's my own honest opinion that I didn't borrow from anyone or anywhere since I don't watch the news and do not follow the election at all. If what I said is similar to someone else it's a mere coincidence. I'm very familiar with American politics and regional feelings because in my late teens and early twenties I was highly political and was always debating and studying all things political in America -- including its political history going back to the founding in the 1780's. I've also traveled to 40 States and know the general beliefs and attitudes of the people across these united States. This background is why I said what I say. I guess we'll see. I'll watch on election night because it is good entertainment. I really hope Trump wins because the mental breakdowns in 2016 were really funny to watch on YouTube.
2019-10-17 23:19
then lets do a bit of debate on something, who do you think is likely going to get nominated?
2019-10-17 23:25
I have no idea. I haven't watched a single dem debate and haven't seen a single poll. I wish it would be Tulsi merely for her anti-war stand and being a bit more moderate on somethings (though I'm personally very far right by today's definition, though properly I'm a Strict-constructionist Jeffersonian Conservative). I keep hearing that the media is favoring Biden the most, but I don't know if this is true. I also keep hearing people speculate that Hillary will run at the last minute and the party will get behind her. This seems far fetched to me but she has been doing a lot of interviews lately (I haven't watched them but know of them). If I had to guess between the current crop and all remains the same it will probably be Warren. I've heard Biden answer some questions and the man seems worse than Bush Jr. at public speaking and answering easy questions. He's too scripted and fails in trying to remember the script. If Warren does get it I think Trump will destroy her with his mere comedy routines he does at his rallies. Americans are shallow in general, Trump will make them laugh at her and he'll win. I honestly do not see anyway for Trump to lose. No conservative will vote for any dem running, 90% of Moderate reps will vote for him, probably 60% of centrist reps, and then he'll still get a lot of dem votes because there are still many there who are not outright socialists like the current crop of dems are -- excepting maybe Biden. (Even Tulsi is pretty socialistic) The only reason leftist think he's toast this election is because all they watch and read are leftist sources which causes them to think everyone thinks the same as they do. All their friends are leftists, their family, their twitter feed, Etc. They become trapped in a bubble of their own making and believe it to be reality.
2019-10-17 23:46
Media is actually pushing for Warren, much less for Biden now. And yea Trump will absolutely beat every single candidate running, except for 3 in my eyes. Only people I can really see beating Trump are Tulsi, Yang, and Bernie. Bernie is well you might be able to think why. Tulsi for her anti-war stance and how she refuses to constantly talk about Trump and do identity politics (only bad part is that she got smeared to oblivion by Kamala rat supporters and more) . And Yang for his domestic policies which some actually quite appeal to alot of conservatives, he also refuses to play identity politics and doesnt like talking about trump either and has said that everytime he gets talked about, he wins, and also doesnt demonize conservatives and is instead is trying to win them over.
2019-10-17 23:54
Interesting. You just told me all sorts of stuff I had no clue about. I've seen a lot of growth in support for Yang but I actually know nothing about him other than some clips I've heard of him speaking. If what you say about him is true then he has a smart team around him. Talk about ideas and not people. Tell the people why you are good and not why the other guy is bad. People can make up their minds. Thanks.
2019-10-18 00:05
yea thats what's Yang mainly been doing, putting out his ideas and isnt afraid to speak his mind. Also some guy named Shane Gillis who's a comedian mocked him and called him racial slurs (got fired eventually) instead of doing what other wokes did which was attacking him, he actually chose to forgive him and urged others to do so as well. In addition he's not afraid of going to the other side to talk. Has been on Fox News multiple times and has gotten praise and favorability from Tucker Carlson (yes would've thought) and has done an interview with Ben Shapiro where he also has shown strong favorability towards him since then.
2019-10-18 00:24
You work for his campaign? jk ;)
2019-10-18 00:25
nah Im just an avid supporter of his. I was originally going for Biden or Beto (cause I knew no one else lmao) until I just decided to watch his interview with Tucker Carlson (and yea who would've thought as well cause I hate Fox News :d) and here we are since then.
2019-10-18 00:28
Gotcha. I don't know why but for some reason I thought you were one of HLTV's NA Trump supporters. I know I've read many of your posts but perhaps I'm confusing you for someone else. You seem pretty level headed and fair though. Just be sure to study everything you can and don't be afraid of uncomfortable views and to have your whole worldview challenged -- and never stop. A life lived this way is amazing because you'll constantly learn new things and expand your knowledge. Especially when you are young and focused on learning, because there is so much to learn life will become a series of epiphanies that bring you great joy. Furthermore, if you know all sides to all arguments you'll be prepared to win any debate. I was deadly in debates back in my 20's when I used to engage in them because I always knew everything my opponents believed and would say after 5 minutes of hearing them speak. It's especially easy when someone is a party member and tows the party line. It's rare you meet original and deeply educated thinkers who are articulate. Thanks again. PS. I like what you told me about Yang saying we should forgive that comedian. Forgiveness and understanding is what will lead America into the future. Identity politics might lead to civil war.
2019-10-18 00:42
I don't care who wins. Nothing changes.
2019-10-17 23:34
+infinity. I lost interest in the process in my mid-twenties because everything I learned, experienced, and witnessed caused me to conclude it's one giant corrupt game that people play to maintain power and status. In 2006 (I was 26 at the time) I had an hour long conversation with my local magistrate because I was challenging the State on some issues pertaining to the right to travel. He listened intently to me and after an hour of giving him an education on my stance and why I was fighting them he looked me dead in the eyes and said "Look son, I know everything you are saying is true because I studied it myself in the 60's. But the simple fact-of-the-matter is; I sold my soul to feed my family." That is a direct quote which I will never forget. It floored me, at the time I didn't know how to respond. But it verified everything I had learned to that point. Which is; these men in power know what they are doing, they are not honest, they are not working for the people, they do enough to keep us placated and comfortable so we don't revolt, but they have ALL made a conscience decision to serve something they know is not good. I've also had conversations with many judges, and State Attorney's -- who all act like children when I confront them with what I know. I've been held in contempt of court 3 times and not spent a day in jail for any of them because the Judges know I'm right and feel ashamed. I've walked out of court a free man within an hour all there times I've been held in contempt. The last time I was in court in 2015 the Judge wouldn't even look me in the eye when I was speaking to him, but, like a child, he stared at the ground the whole time because his shame would not allow him to look me in the eye. Anyway, I could write a book about this stuff easily since I've devoted 20 years of my life to intense study trying to learn how this world works. I've face the beast head on and found it to be a coward and full of shame because it knows it's wrong.
2019-10-18 00:00
Anyone who opposes taking massive debt to give tax breaks for billionaires is a socialist. Get a brain and stop competing on who gets to be the most obedient slave for your corporate overlords.
2019-10-18 00:33
#132
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United States FarCentrist 
He IS a socialist though lol. He wants to turn the US into europe. He has no chance in the midwest where the democrats are typically more conservative.
2019-10-18 11:13
Socialist :) Maybe if USA was socialist in 1970:s.
2019-10-18 13:55
2019-10-17 22:19
Polls have been notorious for being wrong, and we're still way far out from the election. Also, I don't trust anything from MSM.
2019-10-17 22:21
who do you think will go against Trump?
2019-10-17 22:21
Sanders/Warren/Harris. I only think Trump can beat Biden and Warren.
2019-10-17 22:22
ok which of those 3 will go against trump?
2019-10-17 22:23
How should I know? I'm not a time traveler.
2019-10-17 22:23
you should at least have some idea, or opinion, given you're saying that Trump will lose lol
2019-10-17 22:24
Common sense actually. Just look at why he won in 2016 and you will see that his campaign promises to those in the region didn't come true.
2019-10-17 22:26
dude.... just answer the question already lol who will go up against Trump?
2019-10-17 22:26
Like I said, I'm not going to predict something so far away yet. Anything can happen.
2019-10-17 22:27
> "That's just wrong. Trump winning is extremely unlikely considering he's fucked in the Midwest (Which got him elected)." > who will go up against Trump? > "How should I know? I'm not a time traveler." > who will go up against Trump? > "Like I said, I'm not going to predict something so far away yet. Anything can happen." if you're going to express an opinion, at least have the spine to say it out loud and support it ffs......
2019-10-17 22:29
That's based on facts and his campaign promises though.
2019-10-17 22:30
what's based on facts? you haven't said anything except it might be 1 of 3 candidates
2019-10-17 22:31
Why did Trump win in 2016? Due to the Midwest tipping over by a few thousand votes. Why did they vote for him? Due to him promising manufacturing jobs returning, have they? They haven't.
2019-10-17 22:32
Trump won in 2016 because the dems grossly underestimated him. news flash, Hilary won the popular vote....
2019-10-17 22:34
No, because they nominated someone who represents everything wrong with American politics. Corrupt, fake, robotic. And the fact that she supported free trade deals that fucked over the Midwest. You will see in 2020, the Midwest will decide the election again.
2019-10-17 22:36
and yet? who's sitting in the white house? you say that but still don't even have an opinion on who will go up against Trump? wtf?
2019-10-17 22:37
Do you really think he will win the Midwest again? What will he pick up instead of the Midwest?
2019-10-17 22:39
absolutely 100% without a doubt. the midwest is overwhelmingly red
2019-10-17 22:40
Obama won the Midwest in 2008 and 2012. As well as the 2016 election being extremely close for the Midwest, just by a few thousand votes. Doesn't really matter if it's blue or red, what matters is who will listen to the people there.
2019-10-17 22:42
do you live in the midwest or something? i grew up in indiana and went to purdue obama won in indiana back in 2008 and people were absolutely blown away
2019-10-17 22:48
#100
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North America 007DBR9 
Indiana is the most red of the midwest states that matter imo
2019-10-17 23:01
my friend, you don't have to tell me twice hahaha but obama's victory in 2008 shows that there's room for change within a given election. i was in college at the time and it seemed like that election really took the whole state by storm.
2019-10-17 23:02
politico.com/2016-election/results/map/p.. the midwest resembled the Red Sea back in 2016, my friend
2019-10-17 22:50
Are you dense or baiting? Click on the states and look at how close each of them are. Even a small amount of people changing their minds will fuck Trump over.
2019-10-17 22:51
lol mostly baiting tbh to see how far this will go
2019-10-17 22:53
Pretended to be retarded btw
2019-10-17 22:54
:> truthfully tho, as it currently stands, i do think Trump will win in 2020
2019-10-17 22:55
50/50
2019-10-17 22:56
#77
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United States PsychoLogical 
I definitely think he will. What states he'll pick up? I say NH, Maine, and Nevada.
2019-10-17 22:43
We'll see, I'll be waiting next year. He will get destroyed in the Midwest due to the fact that his campaign promises never came true even with a majority in Congress for two years.
2019-10-17 22:45
#84
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United States PsychoLogical 
Oh yeah Trump will absolutely get demolished in the Midwest, if by all odds none of the establishment get nominated. Any of them especially Warren and Biden will get absolutely annihilated.
2019-10-17 22:49
Which is what I've been trying to say this whole thread.
2019-10-17 22:53
#94
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United States PsychoLogical 
you could've just said that exactly man, why did I have to do it for you? :d
2019-10-17 22:56
#35
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United States PsychoLogical 
can I take over to answer? :d
2019-10-17 22:27
lol i know in my bones that it will be Warren and yes, she will absolutely lose a general election
2019-10-17 22:30
#52
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United States PsychoLogical 
In my head it's Warren. Yet for some reason in my heart/ outside of my head, all odds are beaten and Yang somehow manages to win it. Tho its just a prediction.
2019-10-17 22:31
I like some of Yang's propositions, and he received a big boost in campaign contributions after the previous debate, but he's currently sitting so low right now.... it's still early, but he's really going to need a big boost if he wants a chance
2019-10-17 22:32
#62
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United States PsychoLogical 
yea ofc. Tho I wouldnt trust the polls. They're still extremely outdated on how they're held. Through mainly landlines. And he can actually win, throughout the years, over half of the Democrats nominated were underdogs. Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, and even Obama were underdogs or nobodies and still manage to win the whole thing. It wouldn't be much of a surprise to me if history repeats itself if we take this trend into consideration.
2019-10-17 22:35
that's very true. it is still quite early yet and there's plenty of time for things to change
2019-10-17 22:36
#28
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United States PsychoLogical 
its likely Warren, who will go on to lose to Trump.
2019-10-17 22:25
shhh, i'm trying to get him to answer
2019-10-17 22:25
#27
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United States PsychoLogical 
>Harris are you kidding me? She's been sinking like the Titanic for months now. Her campaign is over after Tulsi destroyed her in round 2.
2019-10-17 22:24
She will get the minority vote.
2019-10-17 22:27
#38
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United States PsychoLogical 
hell no she wouldnt.
2019-10-17 22:27
She will easily. She's Hillary 2.0 but better.
2019-10-17 22:28
#43
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United States PsychoLogical 
In an alternate universe.
2019-10-17 22:28
#61
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North America 007DBR9 
Yeah, the rustbelt is the whole reason he got elected
2019-10-17 22:34
#70
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United States PsychoLogical 
and they'll do it again if any of the establishment get nominated.
2019-10-17 22:40
the person better for business will win and thats trump, the lobbys and congress will make sure of that.
2019-10-18 12:49
only 5% of humans are considered smart so it will most likely be trump that wins
2019-10-17 22:16
#73
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North America 007DBR9 
idk, the rustbelt is the reason Trump was elected, still only by the electoral college though, Hillary had more votes total. And Trump kinda screwed up the rustbelt during his presidency.
2019-10-17 22:42
#12
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Denmark ulfsen 
even though i don't have the same opinion as trump, i still think he has the best chance of winning the election.
2019-10-17 22:18
#75
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North America 007DBR9 
Democrats are too split up
2019-10-17 22:42
#97
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Denmark ulfsen 
they just seem lost in their own politics.
2019-10-17 22:58
#99
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United States PsychoLogical 
They have been ever since they went ballistic on how Trump trashed them in the 2016 election and what he's been doing since he got sworn in.
2019-10-17 23:00
#117
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Denmark ulfsen 
but also of all the good candidates from the democrats they pick the most stupid of them all. It's sad.
2019-10-17 23:47
agreed. And the ones being pushed are the ones that'll absolutely get annihilated by trump.
2019-10-17 23:50
Imagine subscribing into the narrative.
2019-10-17 22:19
#15
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Netherlands n0b8m8 
Wtf why no Greta Thurnberg?
2019-10-17 22:18
Tulsi Gabbard best candidate followed by Andrew Yang, rest are bums
2019-10-17 22:19
bernie is better than yang imo
2019-10-17 23:48
#21
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Korea ARBOGA 
bernie 2020
2019-10-17 22:23
#24
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United States gtmaniacmda 
it’ll probably be opposite of 2016, where Trump will win the popular vote but lose the electoral college democrats have absolutely no good candidates (except for Tulsi, but we can pretend she doesn’t exist just like the Democrats do), but I think the MSM and social media will be able to push any Dem that gets the nomination to the presidency
2019-10-17 22:23
#33
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United States PsychoLogical 
Only people that can beat Trump are Bernie, Yang, and Tulsi. Everyone else would just get demolished.
2019-10-17 22:26
#42
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United States gtmaniacmda 
Yang wouldn’t have a chance IMO Too many strange ideas, it’ll turn the public off. Biden is just white Obama, if Obama can get elected (TWICE!) then so can Biden
2019-10-17 22:28
#55
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United States PsychoLogical 
tbh not really actually. The main reason Trump won is because of the Rust Belt. The Rust Belt voted for trump was due to him talking about their problems which the main clicker was Job Loss. Yang is also doing the same thing where he's talking about their problems aka Job Loss. Only difference is that Trump blames immigrants while Yang says its automation thats the culprit.
2019-10-17 22:32
#78
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North America 007DBR9 
White Obama... Kinda true actually
2019-10-17 22:43
#29
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Brazil EZ4ENCEDENS 
erdogan ez
2019-10-17 22:25
Biden 90%
2019-10-17 22:27
52% for leftists so far.
2019-10-17 22:27
its 100% not trump..this dump already lose.
2019-10-17 22:28
Putin
2019-10-17 22:29
huylo
2019-10-17 22:31
:D
2019-10-18 11:54
Dwayne Douglas Johnson aka the ROCK
2019-10-17 22:33
#68
nukkye | 
Lithuania Ovis17 
where is obama?
2019-10-17 22:39
#98
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North America 007DBR9 
mobamba
2019-10-17 23:00
Michael Jordan
2019-10-17 22:40
#72
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Brazil fuNNa 
Trump
2019-10-17 22:42
#76
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Russia Bobbo4 
bernie sanders
2019-10-17 22:42
#80
ppk | 
Brazil 4vengerr 
trump wins again the cry is free
2019-10-17 22:46
#81
TaZ | 
Poland Czeczen 
LETS GO DONNIE2020
2019-10-17 22:46
#82
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United States FarCentrist 
Trump's chances would be slim against biden. That's why he wants to bring him down so badly.
2019-10-17 22:48
Actually it's the opposite. Biden wants Trump impeached because he is afraid to compete. The only candidate he would struggle with is Gabbard
2019-10-17 22:56
#120
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United States FarCentrist 
No one likes gabbard.
2019-10-17 23:50
The establishment certainly doesn't
2019-10-17 23:54
Joe "i cant stop touching little kids" biden no thank you
2019-10-17 23:58
No one
2019-10-17 22:49
Only sheep need president
2019-10-17 22:49
ofc donalp trump hes one of the greatest president in human history. i love him pls vote him again. ezpz
2019-10-17 22:53
the rock
2019-10-17 23:01
Kim Chen In
2019-10-17 23:08
#108
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Canada flame7 
Yang Gang FTW!!!
2019-10-17 23:13
TRUMP FOREVER like Putin
2019-10-17 23:20
#111
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Germany 0b1_ 
YANG GANG
2019-10-17 23:21
#113
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Denmark Kon10R 
I may not be an expert here, but I guess ANY American president is "bought" by whoever pays the most. That's how it works "over there", right ?! Companies like Boeing, Halle Burton, General Motors ... someone may know more than me here ... But the American presidency is a matter of dollars. Not politics. And the "alledged" top dog is basically just a puppet with no REAL power. He just has to "look good" on tv. Carter was the LAST president, the good (not so) ol' US ever had.
2019-10-17 23:29
Why trump i hope dis troll
2019-10-17 23:47
Hillary
2019-10-17 23:55
#134
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United Kingdom Megamo10 
#YangGang crypto man
2019-10-18 12:46
#137
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North America davidbowie22 
trump will win easly
2019-10-18 13:58
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