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Besiktas
allu | 
Finland naamapaab0b 
What keeps women from being as good in cs as men?
2019-10-18 14:16
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Probably biological reasons
2019-10-18 14:18
Could be
2019-10-18 14:20
#110
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Finland Miroyev 
Doubt that since esports has nothing to do with physique. Pretty sure it's just that there's so few women playing cs seriously.
2019-10-18 19:09
It does have a lot to do with reaction time, muscle memory, precision so there are physical aspects to it. But yes it could also be just because there are much fewer female players than male players
2019-10-18 19:11
^^^ yeah this is the main reason, im sure if there was equal amounts of men and women itd be more split down the middle
2019-10-18 19:31
#177
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Lithuania arres 
Do you know how many females are in top 100 chess players at any time?
2019-10-18 23:06
two different games requiring two different minds
2019-10-19 00:26
#187
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Lithuania arres 
ok, forget about cs for a moment. Explain then why females in chess does not reach the highest level and think if any of it can be applied to cs
2019-10-19 00:29
i dont follow chess so i dont know
2019-10-19 00:44
#192
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Lithuania arres 
You are riding fast on a feminism wave
2019-10-19 07:58
Men give the world women give life
2019-10-19 14:05
wtf you just wrote
2019-10-22 11:51
#138
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Finland Miroyev 
Sure that can have minor impact but I don't think it's the reason men are 100 times better xd
2019-10-18 19:55
Why not? If you look at a sport like darts, men are 100 times better there as well although all it needs is precision
2019-10-18 19:59
#142
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Finland Miroyev 
Yeah but cs is much more than just reaction time etc. I agree men would perhaps still be slightly better if there were equal amount of men and women but I don't think the difference would at all this drastic
2019-10-18 20:02
I just gave you an example of men being superior in precision work. I'm not only talking about reaction time
2019-10-18 20:06
#145
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Finland Miroyev 
Yeah I agree with that, but cs is just a lot more complex than darts
2019-10-18 20:08
Of course it is but men have proven superior in almost every aspect in sports(besides extremely long distance running afaik) so I don't see a reason why these aspects wouldn't translate into csgo as well.
2019-10-18 20:10
#149
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Finland Miroyev 
Yeah that's true, all I'm saying is that in esports the skill gap due to biological reasons is smaller than in physical sports
2019-10-18 20:13
Could very well be the case. I can agree with that.
2019-10-18 20:14
I've never seen a normal conversation like that on hltv. good for you - keep it up bois
2019-10-18 23:11
#234
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Finland LARSONi 
+1
2019-10-22 11:51
#140
Puls3 | 
World bigb1rd 
This, it always amazes me that people are so ignorant about the differences between men and women that almost certainly stop women being as good. Chess is a good example, been played for a much longer time than CS with many many women striving to be the best but they just can't beat the men (on the whole). Forward thinking, predicting opponents, logic etc just don't seem to be quite the same. There were differences. Reaction time is worse in women, perhaps communication or teamwork isn't as good. Fuck knows but it does seem to stop women being as competitive.
2019-10-18 19:59
Out of all the female players there's not a single one that can play remotely similar to a t1 player so your theory doesn't really make much sense
2019-10-18 22:24
#170
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Finland Miroyev 
How? I literally said it's cause there aren't women playing as seriously. Definitely these female "pros" such as Besiktas put nowhere near as much effort into cs as tier1 male pros. So few females play cs that it's more unlikely they are really talented and those who do play practice a lot less than male players
2019-10-18 22:31
So you're basically saying that you're 100% sure that there are no females out there playing 10h/day trying to go pro or already considered pro and still playing alot let's say 90% of the community is male players, these 10% represents dozens of thousands of women, out of all of those you're literally saying that there are no equivalent t1 level players because they don't play as much or put as much effort, you see how that doesn't make much sense? It's just a factor, not something that justifies why women all over e-sports are nowhere near as competitive as men
2019-10-18 22:53
#173
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Finland Miroyev 
No I'm not saying that. Surely there are women grinding 10h a day but there are much more men doing that. And no matter your gender you have to be really lucky to get to the top level even if you are talented. Most of the people grinding 10 hours a day also aren't talented enough to compete with tier 1.
2019-10-18 22:58
because female gamer oprresions
2019-10-18 14:19
+1 its cause of the systemic patriarchal oppression that's embed in the system
2019-10-18 14:24
yeah very sad, patriarchs like ninja, shroud, gaben, lisa siu stop womens from gaming
2019-10-18 14:26
+1 so many racists
2019-10-19 14:06
females getting more money then males
2019-10-18 20:17
this could be a reason as well, you see they reach a level and get shit loads of money and just sit there without getting better.
2019-10-18 23:09
#236
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Finland LARSONi 
If you are a woman and you out perform a man, you'll get into a team that is looking for talent like that. Esports is a business and if a woman can win better prize money than a man, why not take her?
2019-10-22 11:55
#8
f0rest | 
Sweden forwin 
Quantity of players and the fact that men have the biology for it (testosteron).
2019-10-18 14:21
This.
2019-10-18 14:25
There should have at least one outlier at this point in time though.
2019-10-18 17:07
#203
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Switzerland Jeded 
Correct me if I'm wrong but has there ever been a t1 pro that was female is all versions of the game
2019-10-19 14:11
are you asking or stating? I don't follow the scene for long enough to know, but i guess not. And that is my point, the game is already old enough to have one at least on tier 2.
2019-10-19 14:13
#205
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Switzerland Jeded 
asking, it's a 20 year old game and I've never heard of t1 female pros
2019-10-19 15:13
Yeah, even if it was just csgo, the game as a esports is quite big for 5 years, so is not that all the females are playing dota or some shit. At least one on tier2 was supposed to happen.
2019-10-19 15:30
#9
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Libya VeryGreenMan 
because men are better at video games (smarter, better reflexes, etc)
2019-10-18 14:22
#28
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Denmark JEBO 
+1
2019-10-18 15:00
psychologytoday.com/us/blog/beautiful-mi.. The differences in reflexes ia roughly 20ms So idk what you mean by "etc", but no, men arent smarter than women, but there is a difference in reflexes.
2019-10-18 18:50
Nt yunoliek alt
2019-10-18 18:58
I have already made a thread where I showed that I am indeed a yunoliek alt, so whats the problem?
2019-10-18 19:00
reported for alt
2019-10-18 19:16
How does the hook feel in your mouth? XD
2019-10-18 19:18
>XD >not yunoliek alt pick 1
2019-10-18 19:19
#131
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United Kingdom aight_bet 
axaxaxaxa u rekt younobietch.
2019-10-18 19:39
+1 mens))) this silvers too ez)))
2019-10-18 20:04
Okay, so you think Im a yuno alt? :D Thats perfectly fine
2019-10-18 20:16
#162
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United Kingdom aight_bet 
nt yunolickmyballs.
2019-10-18 20:54
nooneeverlicksyourballs
2019-10-18 22:54
#175
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United Kingdom aight_bet 
:((((( tears.
2019-10-18 23:03
#feelings
2019-10-18 23:12
Hahahaha i really can't stop laughing and I'm in a public place
2019-10-19 16:36
imgur.com/a/qmDCejs Guess I type to myself ;D That is her replying to me telling her, that I made a thread in which i claimed to be her, while posting a photoshopped seminude with another users name on a sign. Which resulted in a bunch of kids thinking Im actually yuno and posted a pic of my boobs. So yeah, nt ;D
2019-10-18 20:15
lemme correct #151 for you imgur.com/a/qmDCejs Guess I type to myself ;D That is my alt replying to myself telling me, that I made a thread in which I claimed to be myself, while posting a photoshopped seminude with another users name on a sign. Which resulted in a bunch of kids realizing I'm actually yuno and posted a pic of my boobs. So yeah, I'm gay ;D
2019-10-18 21:53
ok what am I supposed to do with that thread, you admitting that you are yuno?
2019-10-19 15:47
Exactly
2019-10-19 22:16
reported for alt then)))
2019-10-19 22:17
Will 100% be banned soon
2019-10-20 04:07
+1
2019-10-20 10:42
Pic or didn't happen
2019-10-19 14:08
hltv.org/forums/threads/2114977/18-bubbl.. Enjoy reading the whole thread.
2019-10-19 15:42
#12
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United Kingdom Shoomus 
cuz girls smell funny
2019-10-18 14:26
This
2019-10-18 16:59
#14
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Germany NiceC 
People will tell you its sexism if you try to explain that most men have a better Hand-Eye coordination and Stereopsis. But its just evolution.
2019-10-18 14:29
#21
oBo | 
France LauraS 
Is that scientifically proven? I would see the reasons for it, with men being the primary providers of food sources during the age of hunter-gathering.
2019-10-18 14:37
I think that we can't get any legit scientific proof in our times. Imagine milions mad feminists.
2019-10-18 14:40
A hltv mens))) that provides sources? I like you.
2019-10-18 17:27
#74
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Singapore Asturobot 
He got rekt
2019-10-18 17:40
He didnt get rekt, as he didnt even oppose what the guy said. He kinda even agress when he says " I would see the reasons for it", but is interested in seeing studies. Furia_Never_beat_Sprout gave him some studies and now we can all be happy. Noone got rekt here.
2019-10-18 18:52
"she" got rekt
2019-10-18 23:07
Their own mentality. Males play because they want to be the best. Females play because they want to play in a lan with a nice shirt.
2019-10-18 14:30
lol this +1
2019-10-18 14:36
+10000000000
2019-10-18 14:38
+99
2019-10-18 15:22
females play becuase they wan't to prove they're as good as mens and fail)))
2019-10-18 15:27
+1
2019-10-18 16:59
#48
twist | 
Sweden Weedish 
+1000000000000000000
2019-10-18 17:15
#73
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Germany Danielakos 
+1
2019-10-18 17:39
First of all is the segregation, second is how they are raised, we are raised to compete, since we are kids, they're not, change that alone, and they will become more competitive in 2 decades
2019-10-18 14:37
„We are kids and they are not“ so girls are never kids?
2019-10-18 17:05
#201
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Greece Petsos 
He meant that we are raised to compete since we are kids and girls arent raised like that
2019-10-19 14:10
what segregation? they are 100 percent allowed to participate in tier 1 lan open qualifiers
2019-10-18 18:44
Their own
2019-10-18 18:51
that isnt segregation that is them being cowards
2019-10-18 18:54
#156
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Portugal VirgemExtra 
they can play qualifiers
2019-10-18 20:19
They segregate themselvs with "only female teams" and "female leagues\tournaments"
2019-10-18 20:49
#166
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Portugal VirgemExtra 
so what you are saying is that they created their own leagues/tournaments but thats not prohibitive to play in mans cups, they can play them but they choose not too for obvious reasons, their level is too low and they get easy humiliated
2019-10-18 21:49
that's the thing, they prefer to be top lvl in their totally garbage leagues, and call themselvs pro, than face real oposition and been exposed as bellow average
2019-10-19 11:30
That's dumb because they could get better competing in another level and learn more but that's their choice
2019-10-19 16:39
but wouldn't get any sponsors at all
2019-10-19 16:46
that's kinda true but they would get other sponsors because brands want to be seen as gender equality supporters
2019-10-20 00:05
#226
2019-10-22 11:35
"but wouldn't get any sponsors at all" they would have sponsors without any doubt. its all about marketing. do you srsly think that those female tournaments have prize money and those teams are paid to actually play the game? they are more like e-sport models promoting sponsors and stuff
2019-10-20 10:52
We have a really toxic mainly constituied by man community. And for ages cs have been the ultimate skilled shooter. We has a community wouldn't really deal well with a bunch of "noob" girls geting sponsors and oportunitys just cause they are girls, when there would be always a bunch of upincomers that we would consider more deserving. Say what you will, it's like on league of legends were they tryed to do female pro teams and even on WOW competitive, they ended up always drained out by the competition, they prefer the way it is now, they get exposer and money jsut for being girls playing a game vs other girls
2019-10-22 11:35
#17
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France Kool_ch3bre 
HODOR ouh ouh bouGa bOugA DicKikI MaKe uS sTrOnGeR niEé(((
2019-10-18 14:35
#18
oBo | 
France LauraS 
The minuscule talent pool. Gaming still isn't widely accepted socially for girls. I would say this is one of the primary reason that we don't yet have a female s1mple. Added to that, you've got the harassment and toxicity that you have to deal with in online games. That fact pushes a lot of people away from games and going into it as a minority only serves, in most cases, to make it a worse experience. I mean if you look at twitch chat during any women's games you'll find the chat perpetually plastered with misogynistic jokes. At face value, it's a pretty hostile place, and many people are turned away before they can find positive aspects to keep them invested.
2019-10-18 14:36
Yes I agree with all of that. I can also play guitar. Be my gf please.
2019-10-18 15:26
agreed
2019-10-18 17:33
Competitive gaming isn't widely accepted socially but it also doesn't interest them nearly as much as boys. I don't see what could make us think that girls would be as interested as boys even if there was no social stigma. I also don't see what could make us think that women would have the same level if they had the same number of players (assuming equal investment into the game). Most very tiny countries still manage to have a few men among top players, and they have fewer players than the global number of female players. Not drawing any definitive conclusion but just saying we can't say much, in particular the small talent pool can only be a small part of the explanation.
2019-10-18 17:42
Well, you can have tons of people being interested in a sport in one country and alot less of those in another, but they will still succeed more if they get proper training and general help to accomplish that. Thats why we have small countries who exceed in certain sports, but are nobodies in any other sport. Im not saying there arent any differences between male and female gamers, but your point isnt a valid one at all in my eyes.
2019-10-18 18:57
That's because it's not my point. I'm not using the country argument to draw any conclusion, I'm using it precisely to show we can't draw any conclusion from the talent pool size.
2019-10-18 19:03
How do you determin a "talent pool size"? And how does it take into consideration how hard or easy it is for someone to make that talent into a profession? There is tons of talents in many things, that will never exceed in that field due to various reasons.
2019-10-18 19:05
Exactly, that's why the sole difference in total number of players doesn't seem to be enough to explain the gender gap in competitive CS.
2019-10-18 19:07
Thats makes zero sense. Why dont you just answer the questions? Its just ignore and talk I guess.
2019-10-18 19:15
Your first question doesn't make any sense, just read stats where you can find them I guess, that's not very relevant to what I'm saying. Talent pool just means number of players, just in case we were not agreeing on terminology. Your second one is also irrelevant because I never implied it took that in consideration, although it is obviously an important consideration.
2019-10-18 19:19
what the fuck "Talent pool just means number of players, just in case we were not agreeing on terminology." Yes, fucking yes, I do disagree XD A talent poll is never just the number of players. If we talk about for example the talent pool in soccer, no way anyone would think "yeah, thats every single football player on the planet, right?" Im sorry, there is nothing to discuss here if you mix up words. What you are talking about is probably a playerbase or basically "all players that take part in the sport", but no definition of talent pool ever agress with that.
2019-10-18 19:25
OK sorry about that but I'm using the same term as the poster I was replying to, as in "the pool from which talent can be picked and grown". I think he or she used it to talk about playerbase, I mean that's the only interpretation that makes sense to me, because if we're talking about the size of the pro scene it becomes a useless tautology to say that female pro cs is not as big because of a small talent pool.
2019-10-18 19:31
But "the pool from which talent can be picked and grown" aka a talent pool means that there is a pool/group of talents and you choose players from there to help them grow to their prime. Its by no means "all players". And thats exactly the point, you need to determine talents first and until the talentscouting is on the same for women and men, women will be in a disadvantage. Obviously male CS deals with so much more money overall and as there arent many mixed teams or teams that would like women in their team (for various reasons), there is no reason for scouts to look at females.
2019-10-18 19:37
I think one the main reasons is that most females are only playing in female teams and are getting dragged down by that and cant evolve at all. Some players only exceed in a proper team, not every amazing player is a solocarry like zywoo. If women would be more integrated and would start early to play in mixed teams, Im sure we could see alot more talented women in cs/esports.
2019-10-18 18:59
#116
oBo | 
France LauraS 
I wholeheartedly agree. I had always thought a major issue in the female scene was that there was no MSL or Karrigan equivalent that could mould players. I hope people get to a stage where they feel comfortable joining into mix teams, as it would be a great way to grow the scene and attract investors. Thanks for your points, and I hope you have a great day/night!
2019-10-18 19:18
Thanks, but dont forget, that many female pros chose to play in female only teams. If they wanna do that, its fine ofc, but its not surprising that you wont hit your prime with that. And same to you! :)
2019-10-18 19:19
#107
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Poland Julka 
+111
2019-10-18 19:02
+1 great answer i would also add that even if there was a female s1mple, she might never get the same recognition just because shes a girl, and the community is sexist as fuck but the real problem is its very hard for a female s1mple to exist because even if the potential is there she might never get the chance to improve like him because the opportunities are not the same
2019-10-18 21:09
#165
oBo | 
France LauraS 
Yeah, I think that's the unfortunate truth. Thanks for adding points, and I hope you have a nice day/night. :)
2019-10-18 21:08
Pretty damn sure if you're an absolute legend of a player people won't be toxic to you. Nobody really shits on the topfragger, especially if the margin is big.
2019-10-19 00:33
They dont train as much as male. If you put a girl or actually anyone training 12 hours a day for a year they will become good
2019-10-18 14:36
#66
Portugal HOLF 
-1 juliano has 10000 hours so does her teammates
2019-10-18 17:32
Proof? I cant see her hours or how much zaaz has. But steamcommunity.com/id/kr4sylya thats 6k steamcommunity.com/id/petracsgo thats 6.5k
2019-10-18 19:13
#130
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United States gingaaCS 
that's 2k more than me :(
2019-10-18 19:39
Still a difference between 6k and 10k. Not saying you cant be a "god" in cs with 6k hours, but extra practice is never wrong.
2019-10-18 19:43
#133
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United States gingaaCS 
What I was just saying that they've played more than me lol I don't really care about how many hours they've played
2019-10-18 19:44
I know, I didnt mean to attack you Oo Seems like you got it that way. All good man.
2019-10-18 19:46
No female hunden
2019-10-18 14:41
#26
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Denmark bebm 
adrenaline and testosterone
2019-10-18 14:57
#27
masq | 
Czech Republic Puget1 
2019-10-18 14:58
Nt Borat
2019-10-18 15:02
#49
Aleksib | 
Finland Mamppa 
No, women for real have smaller brain than men.
2019-10-18 17:17
Not smaller than mens))) brain
2019-10-18 17:19
#51
Aleksib | 
Finland Mamppa 
women have smaller brain than men. How hard is it to understand
2019-10-18 17:19
not so hard as my kok men
2019-10-18 17:21
sometimes i put kok in your mom but only sometimes :(
2019-10-18 17:24
feels sad to be you men, my mom ded(
2019-10-18 17:26
oh shit might be your dad then 😳😳😳 he dressed up as grill 😳😳😳😳
2019-10-18 17:29
sory you 🤡🤡 were so blind, it was his kok massaging your prostatos, np 😉😉😉😉😎
2019-10-18 17:33
#62
EliGE | 
Turkey kuzani4 
Meen u made me laugh
2019-10-18 17:24
lmao
2019-10-18 19:29
Cause they are the best playing candy crush
2019-10-18 15:25
Candy crush major when?
2019-10-18 17:08
ask to a woman
2019-10-18 17:22
Of course physical aspects. It is literally impossible for woman to compete with men in 99% of sports and eSports. Also it gets even worse if you think about how few woman play CSGO like men. I would say for 1 hour CSGO played by a woman there are played at least 20-50 hours played by men.
2019-10-18 15:25
#36
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Switzerland x676 
0.50 rating average on all players..
2019-10-18 15:28
#39
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Ukraine Hierophant 
difference in brain and decision
2019-10-18 17:02
Women have smaller brain question mark
2019-10-18 17:06
#43
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Ukraine Hierophant 
just a difference in hormones and how they have to influence on brain
2019-10-18 17:07
yes
2019-10-18 17:08
#46
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Slovakia itsab8 
not enough time to practice between cooking and washing dishes
2019-10-18 17:11
*bringing beer and receiving slaps
2019-10-22 11:38
A person like s1mple and zywoo have spent countless hours playing every day to get better. Women don't do that. They don't grind nor have the mentality to want to be the best. Also a small pool of players.
2019-10-18 17:12
#52
Norway k1x_ 
nothing, as example katie is a god tier player men KAPP
2019-10-18 17:19
#72
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United States RealGabeNewel 
Katie is trans tho
2019-10-18 17:39
Soccer - Lionel Messi Golf - TIger Woods Tennis - Roger Federer Baseball - Babe Ruth and so on.. etc etc. Why you think most GOAT's in "mosts" of sports are men not women ? I guess you could say the biggest reason for it would be balls.. Like legit. The majority of women ( not everyone ) don't have that undying desire to be the best as men do ( most of them ). Look in almost every professional sport out there in the world. It's dominated by men except maybe something like Volleyball or smth.. Reasons like "they're not genetically fit/smart/strong enough." it's and it's always been utter bullshit. Any woman can do almost everything that a man can do if they want to, but they don't have the drive.. In my opinion that's the biggest reason. In shorter words : Men - The ones and only. ( Like any man could be anything ) Women - The ones in a generation tipe. ( Like some of them can do the same as a man but most likely it's not gonna happen )
2019-10-18 17:20
wtf messi doing at that list
2019-10-18 17:22
Because he's the greatest soccer player of all time ?
2019-10-18 17:23
#68
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Belgium KevinGatesYo 
l m f a o
2019-10-18 17:33
#70
Nast1a | 
World bayborg 
You mean Messi is Pele?
2019-10-18 17:35
Pele admited that Messi is the goat.. what else there is to say? Maradona did too. Almost every other goat candidate admited officialy that Messi is the best. Browse the internet from time to time dude... -_-
2019-10-18 17:37
#79
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Turkey orox2 
Pele is overrated af. He thinks he is a legend because he have records of goals which scored against tier100 shitty SA teams. Football wasn't developed as much as today and it was basic back then. Pele my ass cmon
2019-10-18 17:49
Brazil was the best country and had the best players by that time. Ence, they won 3 WC in 4 WC spam. If brazilian teams were shitty back then, EU teams were even worse. By a large margin.
2019-10-18 19:55
#157
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Turkey orox2 
You got it wrong. He even recorded goals from unofficial matches against shitty lower league teams. It is a fact that football was much more different back then. Now every team has developed tactics and technologic facilities, the scene is much more competitive. Pele is not even no1 Brazilian player, he is a balloon. Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Zico are better than him for sure.
2019-10-18 20:21
Oh yeah. Thats true. But denying Pelé acts is braindeadism for me. "Football was easier back then." You know this argument can be said 50 years from now, right? "Messi wasnt that good. Football was easier back then..." If football was that easy back then, then we would have thousands of Pelés in every country. Thats the thing. He was different. He was way ahead of his time. Just like Messi and Cronaldo are ahead of their times. Defenders were more stupid, yeah.. but so were strikers and other players. Im not gonna talk about his number of goals, but even still, he won everything he could. Scoring a lot of goals in all of this. He demolished Benfica's super star team during the 60's. He destroyed a lot of national squads on world cups. He destroyed the brazilian teams, which trust me... had legends playing over here that are worshiped even to this day like Garrincha, Jairzinho, Tostão, Gérson, etc. You cant deny what Pele did. I never watched him playing, but I believe in the words of the elder football fans people over here. And numbers and titles are on his side as well.
2019-10-18 21:57
u mean messi = ronaldo?
2019-10-18 18:07
I think it's close but I think Messi wins by a small margin.
2019-10-18 20:37
u mean messi = ronaldo?
2019-10-18 23:43
Messi > Ronaldo you autist.
2019-10-19 14:01
u mean messi<ronaldo?
2019-10-19 16:32
#237
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Slovakia ypsylonnn 
I am sure you misspelled Ronaldinho
2019-10-22 16:42
dey don't try enough, dey rather paint nails and put on 100 layers of make up:))
2019-10-18 17:20
blackie is the problem /closed
2019-10-18 17:20
#60
EliGE | 
Turkey kuzani4 
Besiktas ex-president likes girls at this age so there shouldnt be any question
2019-10-18 17:23
#76
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Singapore Asturobot 
They dont have guts to kill
2019-10-18 17:40
they dont even try to compete at the level male players do. they dont even play FPL. they just dont seem to have the drive to be competetive. i doubt they even have scheduled practice routines. this team only exists for making money through sponsors because there are enough horny teens that have exactly two hobbies: csgo and watching girls
2019-10-18 17:42
#81
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Turkey orox2 
I mean this is not even something physical. Female sports are ok because they are not as strong and athletic as men but esports wtf? If they admit female esport is a thing they also admit that men are superior
2019-10-18 17:58
yeah it has nothing to do with genders. they just dont even try. zaaz complained a lot about not getting invites and that its only because the scene is sexist. now they take part in a tier 2 tournament and they get completely rekt by avangar and their male stand in is on top of the scoreboard, haha
2019-10-18 18:06
#90
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Turkey orox2 
I accept that the scene is sexist but to favor of females lol. I mean imagine such a big organization like Beşiktaş signs them and pay a shitload of money instead of ex-SS which is an actual Turkish team with 2 major attendance. At that time ex-SS was still in EPL and was struggling to find an organization. If I would be XANTARES i would be super tilted because of org from my country signs 5 thots instead of actual professionals lmao
2019-10-18 18:42
yeah i agree with that. female teams earn way too much money for the performance they show us. i'd argue that my global elite matchmaking team would put up a fight and probably even win against besiktas and they're making 5 figures a month for that
2019-10-18 18:48
#214
OCEAN | 
United States KKonian 
If females were good enough to qualify for FPL then they would be in it no?
2019-10-19 16:04
#80
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Turkey orox2 
The answer is not something biological (reflexes, coordination blah blah) The first thing is quantity, gamers are mostly man so men have much more possibility to create superstars cuz they are a lot. Second thing is men are much more competitive in those kinds of things, because of testosterone. While men grinding whole day, screaming, cussing whole day women seem to play for fun. Female esports is a thing because they are marketable and some dumbass nerdy incels cheers for them.
2019-10-18 17:56
Women=slave This is why.
2019-10-18 18:01
because they dont have the balls to win
2019-10-18 18:09
because only people without dicks can pronounce the real Besiktas.
2019-10-18 18:13
#92
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Ukraine sodaH_ 
big strong man
2019-10-18 18:46
What did you expected from Turks?
2019-10-18 18:49
Anatomy.
2019-10-18 18:50
boobs are dragging them down
2019-10-18 18:50
bcz not many femens)))) care bout cs and those who do don't usually make it too far in quals for stuff etc
2019-10-18 19:01
besiktasak
2019-10-18 19:16
besiktask
2019-10-22 11:43
coz they only want paycheck and not train hard
2019-10-18 19:29
women are fragile as compared to men.They cant beat the men is 95% cases only 5% women wins in debate in which they dont have any idea what they are saying.
2019-10-18 19:30
Name things females can do better than men besides child birth and having periods?
2019-10-18 19:31
#174
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United States EmperorTrump 
twerking thoting shopping
2019-10-18 23:02
things that actually contribute to society =/
2019-10-18 23:04
brazzer
2019-10-19 14:02
#128
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Spain akproxx 
CuZ there is more male players so biggest talent pool also guys usually take it more serious Played with girls in some teams and they always have others priorities
2019-10-18 19:36
money
2019-10-18 19:45
#136
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CIS chlenixon 
masterrace.
2019-10-18 19:48
#137
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Europe MaHoTei 
probably mentality/ reaction times
2019-10-18 19:48
#146
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Brazil magr0w 
they don't play against the best. they are stuck in the female only scene.
2019-10-18 20:08
bcs they have no time for cs so they dont practice and they are desperate
2019-10-18 20:09
because there's like 95% men and 5% women that plays it
2019-10-18 20:17
+1
2019-10-18 20:18
so based on that we would have to see 5 females on the top100 players list right?
2019-10-19 15:24
#161
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United States ARKTYC 
bobs and vegana lol
2019-10-18 20:50
girls have way less chance to improve. they end up playing in girls only teams because the community is toxic and sexist, and even if a girl was good enough to be on a stablished male team, she might not make it just because shes a woman and since the majority of players are male (and then ofc the chance of the best players being male is higher), they end up not playing against better teams as much and dont get the same chance to evolve
2019-10-18 21:05
#206
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Sweden GeT_CoRrEcT 
LUL expected from Danemaerk
2019-10-19 15:21
yes, i would also expect danes to give great input to an argument
2019-10-21 00:56
#179
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Kazakhstan erictroNic 
Probably not many women think of being pro cs player
2019-10-18 23:07
Totally different spatial orientation. Grills shouldnt compete with guys. its similar to real sports
2019-10-18 23:12
#188
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Turkey Woxantyle 
Fikret orman paralar nerde #
2019-10-19 00:29
#191
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Russia RogueDecay 
if you will allow woman to compete against man on worldwide level, eventually you will see woman on the "top" but on male hormones otherwise they won't get any close. (and its not just hormones) thats why it doesn't make sense. we are equal like 2 halves of 1 piece, ofc each part individually doesn't have to 100% match.
2019-10-19 01:11
lower in game iq?
2019-10-19 08:08
Evolution?
2019-10-19 08:09
There's is nothing to complain about.
2019-10-19 14:10
#209
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China serdim 
Pro male teams refuse to train with them.To make a living, CS is usually their part-time job.
2019-10-19 15:41
#212
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Poland J__ac_pis 
2019-10-19 15:45
Evolution. Women do not fight naturally
2019-10-22 11:40
#231
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Finland dvlx 
They don't get enough opportunities
2019-10-22 11:47
#232
Magisk | 
Armenia s1xX 
biological reasons drive mentality
2019-10-22 11:47
idk but their football team sucks ass
2019-10-22 11:49
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