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3700x or 9700k
Russia PrehistoricDog 
looking for new pc, cant choose between this two cpu 40% gayming, 60% work (ansys, thermica etc)
2019-10-19 09:05
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Europe men) 
9700k
2019-10-19 09:06
kekw intel in 2019
2019-10-19 09:36
#14
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Europe men) 
kekw go work and get some $$$
2019-10-19 09:37
Fucking idiot. You're the dumb dipshit here. It's not about affording shit. It's about what you get for your money. And AMD is way better in this case. You simply don't need a shit Intel for gaming anymore. Do you still live in the past when AMD used to release shit CPUs like the Bulldozer, consuming insane amount of power and performing the same your brain performs = doghsit? It's simply not worth the money to buy Intel anymore for gaming. @OP Go for AMD. Way better and you don't pay like this retard for equal or 1% more performance 100 USD more. What a trashkid idiot. It drives me nuts when stupid folks like you are spreading BULLSHIT: youtu.be/4H6LOXXLQa8?t=340
2019-10-19 21:45
fx is a legend wym?
2019-10-20 17:13
not for gaming id say))))) may be for rendering videos and multi core stuff like that
2019-10-21 12:08
#225
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Germany FaNoK 
FX-8350 is still a beast tho.
2019-10-21 14:44
I had 8300fx but he wasnt really good at games tho
2019-10-21 14:45
#227
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Germany FaNoK 
I have the FX-8350 still and i pretty much play every game in highest quality on 50-60 fps, not even overclocked, still at the stock 4.0ghz in csgo i get about 250fps+ so it's also great for csgo for the price (I've bought mine for 40Euro used)
2019-10-21 14:48
#176
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Croatia mds818 
1) If you don't have problems with money you don't care about power cons. 2) He also said that he needs cpu 60 percent for WORK so it's not all gaming 3) Whatever if you buy best intel or amd it's overkill.
2019-10-20 23:12
There are a few problems with AMD. They aren't performance based (initially) though. AMD performs super well, but in my experience, draw way more power and kill themselves a lot sooner. I had a few AMD chips back in 2016-2017. I say a few because I had one in 2016 and one in 2017. Both ended up slowing down to a point where it was impossible to play CS above 100 fps within a year. End of 2017, I got an Intel chip that is just as strong today as it was in 2017. Apparently this isn't just a me problem either, AMD chips have done the same thing to a lot of people. So the question is really "Do you want to spend more upfront for an on paper slower CPU that will die sooner or spend less on an on paper faster CPU that will be dead within a year?" I spent as much on my Intel CPU as both of my AMD CPUs, so you decide.
2019-10-21 08:45
1. Nowadays CPU's have a lifetime of over a decade. Unless you are a competitive overclocker. 2. In that case which cpu dies faster doesn't matter since both of them will be worthless at that point. 3. 3rd gen ryzen cpu's don't have higher power consumption than latest generation intel chips. Under load it's actually the opposite. 4. CPUs don't just randomly slow down. Nor do they degrade in a way that would cause them to lower their clocks. 5. Cost difference is debatable as Intel had to drop their pricing to keep up with amd. Regarding pure msrp: yes Intel is more expensive but if you're either a professional or an enthousiast it probably doesn't make much difference. So pretty much everything you wrote is either false or irrelevant. Just for your information I'm not an AMD fanboy as many claim whenever I talk about cpu's. I rock myself an Intel cpu.
2019-10-21 12:59
Okay... if you say so. I cannot tell you if I over locked my AMD or not. I am currently overclocking my intel and have had 0 performance issues over the course of 2 years. With my AMD it would say my CPU was at max constantly, despite it being much below the rate it was supposed to run at after around 6 months. However, I did just get a letter in the mail regarding that chip. There was a class action lawsuit because they lied about the clocking rates. That would make sense, but it doesn’t account for it running smoothing for 6 months then randomly starting to not perform fine. I legit do not know any causes, I’m not enough into CPUs to tell you why it slowed down. I do know enough to tell you that CPUs do slow down over time. Here’s an article if you don’t believe me howtogeek.com/130355/is-cpu-performance-.. Additionally, I’m telling this from my experience. Quality control could be an issue, ie, the chips I got were not the best. Considering I found, at the time, very many people concurred and it wasn’t just me that it’s not false. Just an observation though. Irrelevant? Perhaps. Like I said in my original post, this was 2016 to 2017. End of 2017 I made the switch to intel. In the past 2 years could they have improved? Sure. Did they? Who knows. I’ll just tell you what I’ve experienced and if you think it won’t be an issue anymore, it’s your life.
2019-11-04 09:54
i know what you mean i hate these braindead shintel users they still live in the past and pay more for the same performance and less cores :D just let them learn the hard lesson its not worth it talking to these plebs
2019-10-21 09:40
#18
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Norway Nikki_96 
amd is trash intel can actually perform even tho the prices of some high end models are AAAAAAAAAAAAADDWAWDAAVADASVDVSV in the end of the day... if there would be good competition for intel i would try
2019-10-19 09:45
you good?
2019-10-19 09:51
I mean ryzen is a great option for budget gaming, but intel is superior in gaming performance. Higher end ryzen cpus are really good for productive work though.
2019-10-19 10:16
#104
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United Kingdom willtr 
buy 2fps
2019-10-19 16:55
so true look at this it`s polish language but you can skipp to test @1:53 youtu.be/mOem_bq_FBo?t=115 test ryzen 1600x vs 9700K with rtx 2060
2019-10-19 18:04
I don't really see what you mean. In many games cpu does not really matter which is why the difference is not big. But in cpu heavy games such as csgo the difference can be tens or even over a hundred fps.
2019-10-19 18:07
#124
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United Kingdom willtr 
3600 vs 9700k no they are pretty much the same
2019-10-19 18:33
Enjoy paying $300 more(%150 more) for %10 more performance in games then. (3600 vs 9900k)
2019-10-19 11:52
#34
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Norway Nikki_96 
i think i can afford that :] ,besides... im not the EKO person and i realy dont care about prices... what matters the most is the performance not performance per dolar .jesus...
2019-10-19 11:57
ok then buy a 9900k lol. we're talking about the logical purchase here. if u have the money, sure, get the best(for games at least, for work AMD is way ahead)
2019-10-19 11:58
i see many amd lovers these days, i just use intel for a long time now. Does amd cpu last almost forever like intel does, are still amd cpu very hot compare to intel? Or they fixed this issues?
2019-10-19 12:06
They fixed all their issues. AMD makes less heat/uses less power compared to Intel for the same amount of performance nowadays. All their shitty issues are left in the past with the FX series. Now Ryzen is incredible
2019-10-19 12:09
Aight, will check videos to be sure. Thanks for info, have a nice day!
2019-10-19 12:13
Wow, a good person on hltv for once. You Have a nice day too
2019-10-19 12:23
Intel the bad one now. 9900K vs 3700X, 3700x slightly faster on multi-thread workloads and intel is 60-80W hotter.
2019-10-19 14:49
#91
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Sweden swediztann3 
most users here dont use multi thread workloads anyway and who cares if its 60-80w hotter? No issues running this cpu overclocked atleast not 9700k
2019-10-19 14:57
The same was said about 7600K when the first Ryzens came out. 7600K is dog shit now. And new consoles will have an underclocked 3700X as a cpu, if they push it 100% on 30fps games, have fun with your 400€ cpu running games 50fps.
2019-10-19 16:29
#100
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Sweden swediztann3 
7600k has 4 cores, we used that for a long time and maybe now 8 is recommended, for games a 9700k gonna work for years, or do you really think we gonna need 12 cores soon for gaming lul? I will not run at 50 fps at any games in near future. The only time new ryzen will be better for games is when games requires more cores and threads, which will not happen under the time I still use this cpu.
2019-10-19 16:45
So you think games will not use over 8 threads in next 5 years? Even when pretty much all games will be made for a 16thread cpu? :D And 12core 24thread cpu will be faster on 12 threads than an 8core 16thread cpu as the win10 scheduler will finally be updated to prioritize threads to cores instead of throwing them around blindly to ht/smt.
2019-10-19 16:51
#112
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Sweden swediztann3 
all games made for 16 thread lul nice. what more insider info do you got? 6/6 is the sweetspot right now threads are shit you can disable ht and not lose any fps
2019-10-19 18:04
So you think they put 8c16t cpu just for lolz in the new consoles :D Just keep using the same amounts as todays games and disable 6 cores on the new one?
2019-10-19 18:35
#129
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Sweden swediztann3 
Games has always been more about strong singlethread, what info do you sit on that makes 8c/8t wortheless in next month. And that you will need 16 core when 4 has worked for almost 2 decades. I7 9700k and 9900k will be good for a couple of years
2019-10-19 18:50
He is mongoloid for sure. Trying to hype up AMD because he can`t afford Intel cpus. 100% 3rd worlder
2019-10-19 19:03
Next month? I said next years after the ps5 has been out :D Go full retard on me any day if you want though
2019-10-19 20:44
Thanks again for more info, i will check out later. I do run my pc with i9 9900k @ 5.3GHz and 2080Ti... reason why i asked... was thinking about getting one as streaming pc... if amd cpu will last almost forever like intel does, then maybe i will buy amd for this pc.
2019-10-19 16:13
i wonder why you consider getting a streaming pc lol, your rig is more than enough.
2019-10-19 18:11
Why not? All the cool kids does it. :>
2019-10-19 18:28
#122
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Brazil HaiduHilario 
And is a legit competitor for Intel nowadays
2019-10-19 18:26
X570 mobos almost 2 times pricier than z390, you also need the fastest ddr4 memory which will cost you 1/3-2/3 of cpu for amd, so if considering all together 9900k could be even cheaper, + intel doesnt have retarded 20mm chipset fan that circulates hot air from gpu into chipset. And if you go x470 you wont have most resent features and weak future proofness. + plenty of fresh platform issues. So its pretty hard decision for gaming rig
2019-10-19 17:51
you dont need a x570 mobo just get a b450 one. also you dont need the fastest ddr4. just some decent 3200mhz cl16 to do the job. the chipset fan point is irrelevant if you dont get x570 also. i mean you straight up dont get future proofness with intel anyway, so thats kind of a moot point. the only feature you will miss out on is PCI-E 4 which is useless
2019-10-19 20:46
kekw turkey talking about tech
2019-10-19 12:09
retarded dane makes irrelevant comment.
2019-10-19 12:09
" kekw intel in 2019" retarded turk makes irrelevant comment.
2019-10-19 12:11
#53
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Finland MEZi 
turk with fx8350 and blended kebabcooler talking go to home
2019-10-19 12:13
nah i have shintel 4690k
2019-10-19 12:23
4770k here and have hard time deciding to upgrade or not
2019-10-19 17:50
what do you primarly use your pc for? do you have any problems with it? whats your gpu?
2019-10-19 20:44
980ti, all runs smooth, but im bit bottlenecked with 1600 memory :/ and sometimes gpu doesnt get full load (though cpu is not fully loaded as well, I guess its memory)
2019-10-19 21:42
Just keep it for now, its fine for a 980ti IMO.
2019-10-19 22:00
lmao'd at blended kebabcooler
2019-10-19 12:23
#161
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Netherlands Lurox 
Right now Intel still have the best CPU for games.
2019-10-20 16:06
Correct
2019-10-20 16:39
Big number better
2019-10-19 09:06
Yes
2019-10-20 11:30
#3
f0rest | 
Argentina sazGS 
3700 if you dont use it only for gaming
2019-10-19 09:07
is it work stable with new chipset? i was hear about some problems
2019-10-19 09:22
#6
f0rest | 
Argentina sazGS 
yes, its working really well after bios updates, no problems
2019-10-19 09:25
Got 3700x, all good.
2019-10-19 09:56
If you only gonna use it for gaming intel, otherwise amd
2019-10-19 09:09
ryzen 3600 is enough... buy a better GPU for gaming
2019-10-19 09:31
already have 2070s for fullhd
2019-10-19 09:50
#8
markeloff | 
Serbia _Miix 
I quickly googled ansys and saw "engineering simulation and 3d design...", so 3700x would be a better choice for sure.
2019-10-19 09:32
If u has 2080s / 2080ti GPU then 9700k obviously
2019-10-19 09:35
that makes no sense bro... he said he's gonna work more than he games
2019-10-19 09:36
Oh okey, then 9900k
2019-10-19 09:37
lol
2019-10-19 09:51
lmao retard
2019-10-19 11:53
cya in 10 btw amd for poor people
2019-10-19 11:55
intel for retards
2019-10-19 11:57
nvm
2019-10-19 12:47
#73
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Finland Shall157 
3900x is MUCH BETTER for work than the 9900k
2019-10-19 13:12
#162
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Italy Laxity 
depend in what programs
2019-10-20 16:22
#168
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Finland Shall157 
Any video editing or deep learning and it demolishes it absolutely.
2019-10-20 16:52
#174
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Italy Laxity 
i see some test with 9900k + 2070s 3900x + 5700xt and in some video editing programs intel won ofc intel at 5
2019-10-20 23:09
#181
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Finland Shall157 
Nice bait
2019-10-21 07:32
#186
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Italy Laxity 
Later I will link u a video on YouTube
2019-10-21 08:42
#186
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Italy Laxity 
Later I will link u a video on YouTube
2019-10-21 08:42
#59
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Finland tetuan 
Why the hell would you buy Intel when AMD gives you double the core count?
2019-10-19 12:16
3700x is about %20-40 ahead(depends on which program) for work 9700k is about %5 ahead(on average) for games - actually worse in CS:GO so definitely 3700x
2019-10-19 09:35
#16
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Iceland fatboislim 
this
2019-10-19 09:39
+1
2019-10-19 09:39
#38
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Luxembourg fowkingell 
*9700k is actually better in terms of fps in csgo (not by a lot but it is better)
2019-10-19 12:00
oh it is? i know that the 3900x is better in csgo than the 9900k so i assumed same would apply for these 2 cpus
2019-10-19 12:01
#41
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Luxembourg fowkingell 
There's a slight difference in a favor of 9700k but not enough to pick it over 3700x especially if you are also planning on using it for work.
2019-10-19 12:02
No, I have 3700x and 9900k and 9900k is + 100-150 fps more (1280/960, low settings). No chance for 3900x in gaming (CS GO) vs. i9. In productivity i9 is better than 3700x, but yes, 3900x is a better for work.
2019-10-19 22:05
Wtf. Everything on the internet shows otherwise, at least last time i checked(2 months ago) I think 3900x was better than 9900k in like 2 games(one being CSGO) and vice versa was 30.
2019-10-19 22:24
Check this video, because i9 is working with 4500+ ram and strong OC. youtube.com/watch?v=LCdA-bLRAfM&list=LL0.. But in productivity 3900x is far better. 3700x is a better choice for the price and you buy a better GPU. I don't recomand Intel in 2019, AMD is a better choice (very good price and performance), but in gaming i9 is still the king.
2019-10-19 22:35
#15
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Reunion AlexTenebrae 
3900x i guess
2019-10-19 09:37
#56
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Italy Laxity 
3900x 700eu 9900kf 500eu
2019-10-19 12:14
#65
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Reunion AlexTenebrae 
Oh, then maybe 3700 could be the best one
2019-10-19 12:34
#67
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Finland Shall157 
The 3900x is 550€
2019-10-19 12:35
#68
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Reunion AlexTenebrae 
Who am I supposed to trust, guy who said its 700 euros or guy who said that its 550 euros
2019-10-19 12:36
#69
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Finland Shall157 
2019-10-19 12:39
#77
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Reunion AlexTenebrae 
Never trust to Italian mafia...
2019-10-19 14:09
#86
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Finland Shall157 
Ye lol
2019-10-19 14:34
#106
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Italy Laxity 
check amazon LUL
2019-10-19 17:46
#120
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Finland Shall157 
Amazon has import fees if bought from the UK. The 3950x is like 700€.
2019-10-19 18:24
#163
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Italy Laxity 
The 3900x is 660€.
2019-10-20 16:29
#167
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Finland Shall157 
You’re baiting at this point. It goes for 529€ but ik that you’re baiting.
2019-10-20 16:51
#180
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Finland Shall157 
Nice bait
2019-10-21 07:31
#188
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Italy Laxity 
Cuz mad? Also x570 is so expensive
2019-10-21 08:43
2
2019-10-19 09:46
Oon such CPU u think about 10% different in any programme. You will not know the difference later.
2019-10-19 09:55
INTEL LOL Have fun losing 30% performance after patching security holes i.imgur.com/bCboFyA.png
2019-10-19 10:08
+1
2019-10-19 12:03
#101
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Singapore Asturobot 
not bad +2
2019-10-19 16:47
lmfao
2019-10-21 14:00
3700x is overall superior cpu. Especially in heavy workload. And its faster in csgo than any intel
2019-10-19 10:11
obvious troll or just retarded, 3700x has no chance against 9700k in csgo
2019-10-21 08:39
What, why 3700x? Ryzen 5 3600x is more compareable with the 8c&t i7 9700k.
2019-10-19 10:15
cuz 3700x is closer to the price of the 9700k.
2019-10-19 11:53
Makes sense, the first mistake people makes when choosing PC hardware. There are old and outdated Intel quad cores, that still goes for over 300 bucks. By that logic, if you go by price then you might as well consider those garbage to be equal considerations.
2019-10-19 13:00
????????? 0 iq. you dont consider those because they are fucking garbage
2019-10-19 13:33
Same way you don't consider 3700x and 9700k to be equal just due to price.
2019-10-19 14:17
why the fuck would you compare the 3600x with the i7-9700k. i dont get it
2019-10-19 14:22
More comparable in terms of productive performance. Multithreading adds up to 20% more performance, 9700k have 20% more cores without hyperthreading.
2019-10-19 14:23
yeah they are comparable in terms of productive performance. thats why if youre looking to buy one, you go with the 3600x(or 3600 cuz better price/perf), cuz its cheaper
2019-10-19 14:27
Seems that I need to unpack and research performance impact of multithreading, because I realized that my idea of 20% more performance is just bad math. I made this kind of conclusion in past and no longer remember details. What I do recall is that when it was out i7-9700k was almost same in terms of performance with i7-8700k, and now ryzen 5 3600 is caught up in terms of performance with i7-8700. I do recall reading about 20% more performance from hyperthreading, but maybe I recall the number wrong.
2019-10-19 14:43
multithreading can add up to %35 on very well optimized apps but can make things slower for shitty games. yep, basically 3600 = 8700, 8700k = 9700k
2019-10-19 14:44
#32
Portugal syk0 
Ryzen 3700x > Intel i7 9700k for sure. Just check some youtube reviews. If you're looking for a future proofing cpu go for ryzen. If you want more 5 fps go intel
2019-10-19 11:54
For gaymin intel i7 9700k, for productivity ryzen 3700x
2019-10-19 12:00
3700x ofc. No doubt. Intel sucks for it's price.
2019-10-19 12:02
#43
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India nAgent 
3700x is better if you are using it for work 60% of the time. and new ryzen chipset supports faster PCI-E Gen 4.
2019-10-19 12:03
#47
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Other delmaszm 
people always argue about this shit like they gonna send a rocket to Mars with their computers
2019-10-19 12:09
#49
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Italy Laxity 
9700k up to 5
2019-10-19 12:10
#52
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Italy Laxity 
also on intel u can get higher frequency on ram
2019-10-19 12:13
So 5000MHz thats been hit on Ryzen is not enough?
2019-10-19 18:38
6700K
2019-10-19 12:12
#55
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Italy Laxity 
HAHAHAHAHHAHAH DEAD CPU 4C 8T LUL
2019-10-19 12:14
Best CPU ever made. Dead, still 450 fps in CS GO :)
2019-10-19 12:15
you are such a retard its hard to put into words
2019-10-19 12:26
+1
2019-10-19 14:28
#133
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Italy Laxity 
what frequency ? 4?
2019-10-19 19:22
Mine is at 4.9 at 1.41 vCore, under Kraken X62 and liquid metal OFC.
2019-10-19 22:52
#149
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Italy Laxity 
DAMN ofc u do too many fps normal ppl take it on 4.5 or lower. GJ
2019-10-20 02:15
I got lottery with this chip, rly.
2019-10-20 02:19
3700x ofc
2019-10-19 12:15
3700x if gaming is non your primary goal, besides if you're gaming on 1440p or higher, differences are even smaller between those cpu's
2019-10-19 12:25
#71
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United Kingdom trtr098 
at 4K there's zero difference.
2019-10-19 12:49
#93
SANJI | 
United States O'Bese 
youtu.be/SY2g9f7i5Js If you're gaming at 1440p with 2080ti, there can still be some noticeable differences between 9700k and 3700x, especially if you lower settings to target higher framerate.
2019-10-19 15:37
i won't a assume he has an 2080ti, and 3700x is cheaper and even has hyperthreading
2019-10-19 16:29
#66
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Finland Shall157 
3700x obviously because it’s lore future proof and much better in work tasks.
2019-10-19 12:35
#74
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Spain Kyuuta 
3700x
2019-10-19 13:13
3700x because the difference in games is tiny but the difference in actual work is large.
2019-10-19 13:34
#78
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Sweden La1rea 
3700X.
2019-10-19 14:16
#81
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Bulgaria vectralsoul 
3700X every day of the week, twice on sundays.
2019-10-19 14:22
3700X ofc -future proof (8c/16t) while the 9700k has no HT (8c/8t) -no known security breaches -same performance as intel in gaming and even better in working applications -cheaper -doesnt overheat it currently makes no sense to buy an intel cpu. you just pay more.....
2019-10-19 14:34
u have no idea what u are talking about
2019-10-21 08:41
LUL you just showed everyone that YOU have no idea :DD
2019-10-21 09:33
good answer LUL :D
2019-10-21 09:34
please tell me why i have no idea im curious
2019-10-21 09:36
sorry my frend but 3700x has no chance against 9700k in games that require high single, dual and quad core speeds
2019-10-21 10:17
wow 5fps more for +45 euros and no hyperthreading. i had an i7 7700k before which is the same architecture and it sucked in csgo at stock and 5/5.1ghz. i now own a ryzen 9 3900x and get more fps in csgo (nope i didnt bought it for that stupid game) + i can finally play bf5 without stuttering @ 144fps and stream it if i want to. i made a mistake and bought intel in 2017 because of the high single core speed and had to upgrade 2 years later because it only had 4c/8t... thanks to amd we now can enjoy 16cores for mainstream. if amd didnt step their game up we would still sit on shitty 4core/8threads cpus amd > shintel
2019-10-21 13:32
5ps more xaxa :D I had 7700k before and now I have 9700k 5ghz. U think theres no difference on them? Enjoy ur 3900x, but its 1 to 8 core speeds have no chance against my shintel.
2019-10-21 14:40
#89
SANJI | 
United States O'Bese 
If your workload is multithreaded = 3700x If your workload is singlethreaded and use your system for high level comp MP gaming = 9700k For better 3d-rendering performance = 3700x For better 3d-viewport performance and/or if your 3d-render program supports GPU render= 9700k or if you want best of both worlds, get the 9900k (more expensive I know, but considering you'd probably use the system for 4+ years, $100+ isn't really that much).
2019-10-19 14:46
ryzen 3800
2019-10-19 14:58
#94
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Europe twitchy_ 
I'm waiting for the 10th gen. Mobile cpu's are already out, so the desktop ones will be out between now and first months of 2020. It's not a big update but they are going to have some boost on cores and speed per core while they should cost moreless the same.
2019-10-19 15:44
Intel if you use pc only for GAYming, amd if you also work on it (non office work). Also with amd you want fast (3200 and at best - 3600mhz) memory with kowest possible timings. In work Intel better only with apps that ise quick sunc, check if your workload use it, otherwise - amd. Also you dont need too expensive mobo cause amd cant overcklock (just dont buy msi and cheap gigabyte boards)
2019-10-19 16:17
3700x if you run other programs like in the background like chrome, spotify, it'll be able to handle more background tasks than the 9700k. But in games, a couple FPS fewer than 9700k. 9700k for a few more FPS, but less multitasking capabilities. Buy whichever cost less.
2019-10-19 16:26
Intel Core i7 - Game, Record, Stream. Without Compromise! =DD
2019-10-19 18:20
#102
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Singapore Asturobot 
3700x will fulfill ur gaming needs and moreover your work obligations
2019-10-19 16:47
might as well wait for next gen if you're planning on buying one you're picking an awkward time to buy since within 5 months theres gonna be something new announced and you're gonna regret buying it too early
2019-10-19 17:50
That is the biggest tap ever, waiting.... In the world of PC building you just have to jump in, because every 6 months is when products launch and speculation on new products begin. I'm waiting to see if B550 is a better option than x570. If the prices are shitfor b550, I'll purchase an Intel cpu and mobo combo, if prices are adequate for b550 i'll get an 3700X I have been waiting for almost 4 months to complete my build with cpu/mobo combo lol
2019-10-19 23:36
i went with a 3700x, it is good, i recommend it. :)
2019-10-19 17:56
#111
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China Blitzer 
"40% gayming, 60% work (ansys, thermica etc)" if thats is the case -> 3700x all day long ;)
2019-10-19 17:59
3700x any day i didnt wait for the new ryzen cpus and got the 9700k because i needed a new cpu asap but 3700x is just better in every way
2019-10-19 18:03
#115
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World ZMDR 
3700X is only slightly behind in gaming but destroys the 9700K in any work related task that takes advantage of all the threads.
2019-10-19 18:06
3700X DDR4-3200 2*8 or 2*16
2019-10-19 18:12
+ 2060 super and u have a beast pc to play on ultra with 60 fps at least and a good PC to work on it.
2019-10-19 18:25
#151
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Italy Laxity 
3200suck
2019-10-20 02:16
3200 with tightened timings is easily >>> 3600CL15 with XMP And starting from 3733 MHz Ryzen 3000 uses only half of it so there's no sense anyway.
2019-10-20 08:20
3700x
2019-10-19 18:36
At the moment the AMD options are best all rounders, Intel will give you a few more fps depending on the game but for other uses outside gaming AMD is currently better, however Intel has alot more money and I'm sure they will match AMD soon enough.
2019-10-19 18:45
i had a dream that i had a 3700x and i was not disappointed so 3700x>intel
2019-10-19 19:00
3700X men))) and just for some context: I have a 9900K myself but next CPU will be AMD I guess - Intel gets simply too hot.
2019-10-19 20:49
How come ? I have 9900k with x72 kraken a couple fans and it keeps normal temperatures
2019-10-20 11:30
it does, but the statement is still legitimate in comparison. it's due to the high clock speeds of single core and I can live with that, I knew what I get with this i9 CPU - I have the kraken x62 and it does fine. But AMD next gen provide the same performance and better temperatures right now - intel is overdue with a solution for the higher temps, especially when they sell their K cpus as overclockable.
2019-10-20 14:31
Well i dont go into details this much , for me i9900k + rtx 2080 do the job and im satisfied
2019-10-20 16:01
+1
2019-10-20 18:10
#146
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Albania Fleeperi 
3700x all the way
2019-10-19 23:37
3900x
2019-10-19 23:38
#150
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Italy Laxity 
700euro cpu
2019-10-20 02:16
499$
2019-10-20 10:33
#159
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Italy Laxity 
HAHAHAHHAHAHAH CHECK AMAZON EU IDIOT FROM T3 COUNTRY
2019-10-20 15:06
Check Amazon us, idiot from t3 country Who cars that your shitty sellers do overpricing?
2019-10-20 16:53
#177
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Italy Laxity 
AlBaNiA
2019-10-20 23:13
yet i can afford 3900x and u cant. Hahahaha
2019-10-21 11:58
#231
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Italy Laxity 
u probably dont know my specs -_-
2019-10-22 12:19
lolz. If u can afford it you wouldnt write 700euro cpu. lol. why so much braindamage>?
2019-10-22 12:48
#233
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Italy Laxity 
i mean its not worth 700eu cpu also x570 mb
2019-10-23 14:22
moar excuses plz
2019-10-23 16:21
3700X for the extra threads , intel will win if you use after effects though.
2019-10-19 23:38
3700x better FPS/$ but gets hot quicker
2019-10-20 16:30
#169
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Portugal Benjff 
i don t know amd might be cheaper but intel is better for gaming however the amd will be better for the extra cores
2019-10-20 16:56
Lul? Better for gaming? In 800x600?
2019-10-20 17:01
9700X
2019-10-20 17:03
#178
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Brazil fadefedora 
>buying intel in 2019 >after meltdown/spectre >14nm+++++++++ kek
2019-10-20 23:14
#179
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Croatia mds818 
All the kids whining about gayming only....
2019-10-20 23:16
amd is total garbage lmao
2019-10-21 08:28
lmao. ur brain is total garbage if u write this. U have like zero knowledge
2019-10-21 12:03
actually i work in computer parts shop and i know the difference between quality intel prosessors and trash tier amd ones
2019-10-21 12:05
Sooo, show us proofs. Or u are like a girl, cant proof ur own words?
2019-10-21 12:06
okay thats epic, i dont give a fuck about ur hate towards women. proofs are multiple statistics that can be found on internet you
2019-10-21 13:53
Expected that u have zero .proofs . Haha
2019-10-21 14:00
9700k is better for gaming, it has faster single, dual and quad-core speed than 3700x. 3700x has only faster multicore speed that you dont really need in gaming
2019-10-21 08:36
lolz. better for 2% ? lol
2019-10-21 12:06
#199
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Finland tetuan 
But it has superior corecount and he meantions working so AMD is the smart choice. Also the Intel is only slightly faster. You also have to remember that Intel will probably lose parformance and become slower with all the security patches.
2019-10-21 12:07
#203
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Europe twitchy_ 
How do you know that he needs multicore on his work? I have no idea about those engineer programs, but in most of the 3D animation software (maya, blender, 3dsmax...) viewport workload needs more single thread power than multicore. Amd will be a lot better for render, fluid simulations and things like those, but not while you're working on the 3D viewport. Which is most of the time if you're not the render/fx guy.
2019-10-21 12:14
2019-10-21 12:36
#216
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Europe twitchy_ 
Because you don't know how a 3d program works or you don't know how to read. "Amd will be a lot better for render" That's what you're showing. But viewport is a different story, by the way on an engineer program like he use, I guess you don't need to render and animation with fancy lights and materials. I know they do some kind of simulations to know times for every tool and things like those, but I don't know how much cpu power needs that or if it could be multithreaded. For example on solidworks which I guess is similar to what he uses, benchmarks goes one side or another depending on what they are doing, so at the end it depends on what he does more and see if it's the same on their particular programs. pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/SOLIDWORK..
2019-10-21 13:12
nt puget
2019-10-21 13:55
#229
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Europe twitchy_ 
Is the first google find but here you have another one. Sadly there's no real test using a real "studio" animation. cgdirector.com/cinema-4d-viewport-perfor.. Cinema4d is a bit more AMD friendly than others and still Intel performs a little better. By the way I have no idea which kind of test they are doing, because for the image it doesn't look like a rig at all and more about lights and materials on a mesh that hasn't a lot of polygons. Plus most of the benchmarks are done by users, that could led to mistakes if they have other things open, different motherboards qualities and ram speeds... By the way, I would love to see how all of you that are super amd fans, take all those cores to 100% using hltv forum while you are on silver mm in csgo. It's like buying a race car to use it all day offroad, because a very few will use 3d rendering or are going to encode 8k videos on premiere.
2019-10-21 14:58
amd
2019-10-21 12:09
3700
2019-10-21 12:22
#205
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India Wise_Indian 
3700x
2019-10-21 12:26
9700k for stability amd if you wanna gamble
2019-10-21 12:27
lol? braindamaged? How 9700k more stable? Proof ur words or ur a girl?
2019-10-21 12:33
well quite obv 3700x if 60% work
2019-10-21 12:38
intel has lower latency in csgo, which is important in competitive games youtu.be/dsbVSknUK7I?t=256
2019-10-21 12:44
lol? why u link video that compares 2700x vs 9900k when its 3700x vs 9700k. Nice braindamage
2019-10-21 12:51
my friend got 9700k and i got 3700x and i get better fps in cs go(if it even matters) very small difference. we tested both cpu's he got GTX2080 and i got old GTX1080 and its almost same in every game. CPU'S have almost no difference at all, but with 3700x you get more cpu threads. and if people say that AMD gets hot and burns out well my 3700x idles at 29-31c and on gaming it will hit 50-60c and later when ryzen 9 gets bit cheaper you can always get more cores without changing your motherboard out 12/24core or new 16/32core ryzen9 and you can sell your 3700x get nice discount so amd is no brainer at the moment. i also tested out i7 7700k @4.9ghz and ryzen 2700x and i can say that 3700x is amazing cpu and i dint buy new x570 motherboard, i bought x470 280£ board for 160£ and this baby can run any amd cpu. obv if you go for x470 make sure you have new bios on. we can close this topic now.
2019-10-21 12:56
3700x 100% its good for gaming and better for work, also probably way cheaper especially because you dont need an expensive motherboard for amd to overclock. Dont listen to biased fanboys, just check some test on youtube and compare all the parts by price
2019-10-21 13:00
ya iz perdey, mne ne hotyat proshivat' with delivering, so i take x570
2019-10-21 15:56
3700x
2019-10-21 13:01
9700k obv, best gaming processor after 9900k
2019-10-21 13:55
3700x for sure.
2019-10-21 14:42
#228
Boombl4 | 
Estonia 5plus 
3700x for sure.
2019-10-21 14:51
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