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sh1ro | 
Portugal TAK3NGOD 
Why woman can't play good cs It's not like football , they don't need a strong body...
2019-10-19 11:16
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ropz | 
Europe redtzy 
males are overall more competitive and I dont know have better dexterity (?)
2019-10-19 11:17
HEN1 | 
Russia V0RTEXXX 
cuz they don't play it?
2019-10-19 11:17
sh1ro | 
Portugal TAK3NGOD 
Wtf u saying
2019-10-19 11:21
gla1ve | 
Denmark flapdur 
I agree. There are something like 100 male players for each female, I think I am surprised though, that there are not a few females at high level. Like you see 1-2 good players from countries without a big CS-scene. This game crosses borders and you can play together without being in the same room.
2019-10-19 11:48
Netherlands PasscaLl 
like nexa and hunter, they are good players but they are the only good ones from serbia
2019-10-19 14:40
Netherlands Removed 
Hunter's cousin is also decent at cs I heard
2019-10-19 14:47
Kazakhstan tomik0 
Dat boy choko? I heard he is massive loser
2019-10-19 17:20
Poland have 10x more players than all women playing cs and they still have 0 relevant players on the scene right now.
2019-10-19 14:45
Finland Miroyev 
2019-10-19 14:13
Dont even bother trying to explain it to this virgin bethas hltv community. I tried multiple times and ale they answer is "women are bad men are bettter at everything haha!"
2019-10-19 14:43
Kazakhstan tomik0 
Dat true u delusional
2019-10-19 17:21
Why is everyone so hard on them ? Give them some time, they'll get there. Female cs is inexistent atm. Chill out. I personally am glad that they allowed them to play at DH, good job on them.
2019-10-19 11:18
sh1ro | 
Portugal TAK3NGOD 
This female team already existe for like 3 or 4 years, and they beber achieve nothing
2019-10-19 11:20
Australia t0rrent 
That won't get u pussy bro
2019-10-19 11:23
no trouble there mate 😎😎😎
2019-10-19 11:37
Australia t0rrent 
emoji checks out
2019-10-19 11:53
United Kingdom aight_bet 
you frikin freak. when will you learn. that your actions have consequences.
2019-10-19 11:24
2019-10-19 17:22
Europe MaHoTei 
na thats not gj everyone needs to qualify and these bots dont its retarded system
2019-10-19 11:24
they did qualify. it was a female qualifier or something
2019-10-19 11:35
Europe MaHoTei 
2019-10-19 12:18
s1mple | 
Russia h3x0r 
dude, it's first time ever in csgo when females were on male tournament, why u so fucking angry, piece of crap? everyone asks why CIS still has their own qualifier for Major, when they every fucking major surprise everyone. U r so annoying, the worst type of people tbh
2019-10-19 13:53
Europe MaHoTei 
2019-10-19 14:02
It's the first time there is females in a normal tournament (NOT a male tournament) because they were given a free spot. The few female teams that participate in Open qualifiers usually gets stomped by lvl 9-10 FaceIt mixes who don't pracc at all. They've every chance they need and some of these females have played "pro" for a decade now with 0 improvement. Get your white knight head out of the hole where the sun never shines and take a look at reality.
2019-10-19 14:10
United Kingdom aight_bet 
it's funny that they got 50k and the spot when asterion only got the 2k
2019-10-19 17:55
Finland Miroyev 
The fact they are easily best female team but get destroyed by t2 males
2019-10-19 14:15
Maybe they should qualify on the same terms as the other teams.
2019-10-19 11:26
They didn't, that is a disabled team qualifier. They need to qualify by the male qualifier to count.
2019-10-19 11:36
Yeah, from a female ONLY qualifier. They didnt qualify like the rest of the teams in the OPEN qualifiers, where every team is allowed.
2019-10-19 11:36
United Kingdom Cryaosic 
Name checks out
2019-10-19 11:31
Female CS is pretty much on the same level, or even lower, than it was 3 years ago. How much more time do you want to give them? Zaaz is 28 and has been playing for more than half a decade. What makes you think she'll get better?
2019-10-19 11:35
im not talking about zaaz or juliano. Im talking about female cs. They give them a chance. Maybe this will motivate other sponsors to make more/better female cs tournament. It will never be close to male cs, ever, thats true. But i personally am glad to see fe teams playing with guys. even if they get destroyed.
2019-10-19 11:37
But that's the point. Female teams have been getting chances and playing against male opposition since 2016 and they haven't gotten a single step closer. I just think it's unfair, that they get paid so much more money than male teams on a similar level.
2019-10-19 11:41
can you send me some tournaments where fe played with male teams? I cant find any, except this one. And like juliano said in the interview, this is the biggest tournament with the biggest pressure felt ever for them.
2019-10-19 11:46
fuck off white knight
2019-10-19 12:55
liTTle | 
CIS Dowa) 
imagine salaried over 4 years and cant stuck in open xD
2019-10-19 13:50
CSGO is seven years old, they had plenty of time...
2019-10-19 18:23
Frankie | 
Finland jUPPE! 
Female player pool is minuscule compared to men. Of course if you have 1000 more people playing the game, you will have 1000 times more pro level players.
2019-10-19 11:19
mens are just overall better on everything compared to women
2019-10-19 11:22
2019-10-19 14:47
Sri Lanka VuXn 
2019-10-19 11:24
720 | 
Germany felixlulz 
wow, didnt expect a smart comment in such a thread
2019-10-19 11:25
Germany MackyGee 
2019-10-19 13:50
It's the first time there is females in a normal tournament (NOT a male tournament) because they were given a free spot. The few female teams that participate in Open qualifiers usually gets stomped by lvl 9-10 FaceIt mixes who don't pracc at all. They've every chance they need and some of these females have played "pro" for a decade now with 0 improvement. Get your white knight head out of the hole where the sun never shines and take a look at reality. They're basically paid to play at DMG-LEM mm level which is sad af only because the corps know females will make virgins buy more.
2019-10-19 14:12
twist | 
Sweden Weedish 
why do besiktas play with a stand in...?
2019-10-19 11:25
It has nothing to do with women. Some reasons -Much fewer women play. How many players are female? 5%? -Lack of talent pool. -Lack of a competitive scene They play vs much weaker opposition, there is not a lot of events, etc
2019-10-19 11:25
Flag checks out
2019-10-19 11:39
2019-10-19 11:43
Portugal xxxRUI75xxx 
Probably less than 5%...... girls don`t play pc games as much as men and usually are not into more tactical shooters. The fact that CS doesn't have any female models in-game also doesn't help (fortnite, apex legends, pubg, overwatch they all have female playing models)...
2019-10-19 11:40
Australia flashi 
lol female player models are a problem now xd
2019-10-19 12:11
CS is not gender divided. There is the normal tournaments and normal leagues then there is a female version because they can't handle the level and sponsors wouldn't like that. Actually they have a bigger competitive scene than males as they're able to compete in more tournaments&leagues than us. Now that's point number 3 out of the way. Your 2 first points are the same so lets remove them as well. There are quite a few female players but they don't improve at all (maybe a little bit but that's minuscule). Many of them are getting facilitated and paid to play the god damn game since they are around LEM level but they never really improve more than level 8-10 FaceIt while getting partly carried by teenage boys who will never get salaried for playing the game. It seems they collectively have a mindset of it not being as important since they're already paid. Some of them refuse to play normal qualifiers and leagues then complain that there is so few female tournaments. They owe their bad skill level to themselves. Source: I've played with 31 (as in queue'd up together or playing 10mans with friends) "competitive" females where 14 of these were paid to play the game.
2019-10-19 14:24
Poland Julka 
+1 and it's even less than 5%, probably about 1 or 2%
2019-10-19 14:47
Why the fuck is everyone making these.threads suddenly. I sthere like a womens))) league going on rn or something?
2019-10-19 11:26
Germany Roflcopter234 
women team played at dreamhack and lost something like 2-16, 3-16, 5-16
2019-10-19 13:52
holy shit vod please
2019-10-19 14:04
1) Less female players in total = smaller talent pool 2) Women are biologically less competitive, fewer will devote 10 hours a day to playing csgo 3) Most women arent incels and therefore also wont spend 10 hours a day on csgo, since they have other things to do, therefore less likely to reeach their potential. 4) While men and woman have almost same average IQ, the deviations are greater with men, meaning the smart mens will be a lot smarter than the smartest women. So basically, having einstein brain super competitive incels play csgo = 90% chance of becoming pro.
2019-10-19 11:27
Women) Anyway good points Also men has improved spatial ability which has a lot to do with CS CS is so much MICRO and it just suits the male brain more. Also men work better in group than women
2019-10-19 11:42
Didnt know about the spatial stuff, thats cool.
2019-10-19 11:47
I can sort of agree with 1, 2 and 3. You're missing the most vital part though. Men's eyes are much more sensitive to motion, so our visual reaction time is way faster. This is probably because we spent eons hunting animals. Imagine that the difference between your average man and woman in regards to visual reaction time is like the difference between 2015 KennyS and your average gold nova. That's hard to overcome. High in-game ''IQ'' has little bearing on actual intellect, it's mostly a subset of intelligence like spatial awareness. Confidence also plays such a huge role because it allows you to visualize what's going to happen before it does, say a peek (men are also better at this). It also expands your awareness because your actions feel ''right'', you're not doubting yourself which is actually one of the greatest roadblocks to performing well. Look at XANTARES, he has the intelligence of a twig but he shreds. Most CSGO pros aren't very intelligent, they just have certain prerequisites to excel in games like this. There's so many pros who were promising athletes before an injury forced them to stay at home and get hooked on video games. People like that are also likely to be good with hand-eye coordination games like CSGO
2019-10-19 12:54
Didnt know about the eyes thing. Thats fucking cool too. I disagree with you on the IQ thing. Being able to think well is huuuuge in cs, that an spatial awareness is what allows amazing clutch plays. Knowing every angle by memory, but also being able to predict exactly where people can be, if they arent in a given spot by a given time etc, while understanding what the best thing to do in your current position, with current weapon, current health, time left etc, is something you can practice, but in most cases in the heat of the moment, it is down to the individual and their brilliance to come out on top, along with skill ofc. IQ ofc only matters up to a point, but most pro cs players at a high level will pass pretty much all physical and mental tests, disregarding boombl4 ofc. Anyone who is dumb and cant read their opponents mid game are the people in mm who cries "OH HOW IS HE THERE" or "OMG HOW HE KNOW ME xd" in voice everytime they die to some super predictable shit, beacuse they are stupid.
2019-10-19 13:47
I don't think it requires that much iQ. It's more like an animal instinct, a feeling and understanding of the game. Whenever I play it seems to come natural. I haven't timed the seconds from useless on Cache to A main but my internal clock will tell me after a certain time that the enemy either went out middle, B or lurks between squeaky and under boost area. Then I will automatically use what I've seen the enemy has done in the previous rounds to select the most probable course. And if I'm not getting totally outplayed I also now know which areas I can sprint knife out if I misjudged his path to retake loss of time. If you'd have to think about this then I'd feel you'd always lag some milliseconds/seconds behind. Don't come here and tell me OOGA BOOGA stone-age hunters had amazing iQ.
2019-10-19 14:39
Yes, I forgot to factor in game sense, and how much potential talented players have to increase it, and seamlessly utilizing it in different situations. I also play very intuitively because there's so much I just know and have encountered before. This might be why IGL's tend to have worse individual performances, like NiKo. N0thing is someone who can articulate exactly what he's thinking in real time, I have a similar level of thinking but it's much more fragmented like I'm skipping through consecutive steps of what might/will happen. I remember playing as CT on Cache in a 1v1 with over a minute left on the clock. I just crouched in the corner of the left box outside the CT connector entrance. After 40 seconds of waiting, the T walked right into my crosshair from con. My gut just told me that he would do that lol Also, I never told you that stone age hunters had amazing IQ, I said the reason our visual reaction time is so much faster than females might be because we spent hundreds of thousands of years hunting, whereas women mostly foraged and took care of the children.
2019-10-19 15:46
My stone-age point was obviously hinting towards the fact that they were good hunters who could outplay their prey without necessarily being very intelligent.
2019-10-19 16:42
While I dont disagree with the hunters part. CSGO is a game where everything repeats in almost identical patterns and by knowing and studying these, you can know how long players on certains teams like to spend rotating or which ways they prefer to retake from and such. with that you can predict where you can catch timings and such, much more of an intelligence thing than a feel based thing you will have in pugs. If you watch someone like xyp9x and flusha clutch, it is clear they think about what they are doing a lot more than the average player at the pro level. Just because it isnt numbers they are calculating, the fact they are almost consistently able to outplay other smart and talented players is purely due to intelligence, since skill wise they arent better.
2019-10-19 15:48
Meh I don't buy that they're thinking so much more, more like slowing everything down just to be more careful but what do I know, the height of my CS competitiveness was beating several pro teams in CS:S.
2019-10-19 16:39
Fair enough, but do you happen to consider yourself retarded?
2019-10-19 16:42
Partly, I mean I'm on HLTV years after it got infested with these kids CS:GO brought on. On a serious note, I agree that it requires a type of "thinking" (if you will) to do these actions autonomous yet I feel it's more of the same skill set you see in African hunter-tribes which aren't exactly known to have the highest iQ.
2019-10-19 16:46
Again not disagreeing with the hunter part, but we are talking about the top level. Even Special forces in america have much higher IQ requirements than the regular army, where there is also a IQ requirement, because below it you are too dumb to be of any value even after years of training. The best of the best require better physical abilities i.e skills but also better ability to think on their feet. Obviously it isnt chess, but it sort of like reading chess moves that you cant see, vs an opponent you can only study before the game, and have to predict moves based on that.
2019-10-19 18:19
Yes, I know what you mean. It's more akin to calculating chess moves than numbers. I've been analyzing ZywOo for fun, and he must be calculating all kinds of timings in his head. It's pretty fascinating because it's like he can see their movement on the map and where they are likely to pop up again and when.
2019-10-19 17:17
Yup. The best analogy I've heard for the mental part of cs, is its like playing chess versus someone whos pieces you cant see until they are able to attack you. You only have preparation to go off of and with that have to predict where people are likely to go end up during certain plays etc.
2019-10-19 18:20
Denmark QBE_ 
cuz they aren't real womens))))
2019-10-19 11:36
I think even with a small player pool, there was already supposed to be a outlier at this point in time. Csgo is taken as a "big esports" for around 4 years, and there is players that got to the top in that time, there is supposed to have a female player that did the same (or close). They all suck.
2019-10-19 11:38
womaneses) cs
2019-10-19 11:41
Italy Laxity 
women's dont care video games
2019-10-19 12:05
Men's eyes are much more sensitive to motion, our visual reaction time is way faster. This is because we spent eons hunting animals. The difference between your average man and woman in regards to visual reaction time is like the difference between 2015 KennyS and your average gold nova.
2019-10-19 12:12
f0rest | 
Greece Graecos 
Reaction time is different among men and women
2019-10-19 12:20
United States DiabIo 
feminists never ever ever talk about all the cases where women get extra or special treatment
2019-10-19 18:02
rain | 
Poland Karmela 
Im good at cs okay
2019-10-19 13:50
One word: LUL
2019-10-19 13:52
Germany boerchi 
they nearly got 6 times more money at dreamhack showdown than Hardlegion at the major group stage and probably way more overall, yet they can only manage 8 rounds on 2 maps against them. Fair?
2019-10-19 13:54
flusha | 
Finland Bamatso 
they have longer wires. Science proves.
2019-10-19 14:52
United States DiabIo 
1 of many factors im sure
2019-10-19 18:04
Argentina 3comas 
I think having a female scene separated from the male one is bad for them. The good ones get mixes with mediocres who need to be there just to fill spots. Beside that, is really hard to give relevance to a scene worst in every way to the male one. In football or other sports I totally understand separated competitions, conceptually, but not in cs.
2019-10-19 17:24
Kazakhstan tomik0 
I think female cs can exist if it gonna be some astralis women academy with hard discipline and good conditions, for all history of cs only Denmark show structure cs
2019-10-19 17:27
United States DiabIo 
bell curve
2019-10-19 18:03
rain | 
less brain. They are worse in every sports
2019-10-19 18:05
hunting instinct
2019-10-19 18:24
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