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GuardiaN | 
Poland MIBR_IS_funny 
no, they are not y'all out here trashtalking GuardiaN cause he ain't getting 30k but somehow he's got the highest ADR out of all the Na'Vi players inb4 flair checks out, prove me wrong
2019-10-19 20:49
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#1
PAINT | 
United States _BoBRoss_ 
flair checks out
2019-10-19 20:49
expected
2019-10-19 20:49
#2
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Germany Neckarstadion 
57.8 adr
2019-10-19 20:49
HLTV ADR vs. ESL ADR LUL watch the stream
2019-10-19 20:50
#8
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Portugal NabasKi 
what's his ESL ADR?
2019-10-19 20:50
it showed 108 for ex. Boombl4's is 66 (ESL)
2019-10-19 20:51
#39
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Portugal NabasKi 
yeah, but i find it hard to believe based on his score
2019-10-19 20:58
I don't, I've had 100 ADR countless times when I played and yet I was the bottomfragger
2019-10-19 21:00
#54
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Portugal NabasKi 
did you have many assists?
2019-10-19 21:01
not too many, but a fair amount 6-8 at the end afair
2019-10-19 21:01
Math isn't your forté ey?
2019-10-19 21:08
#95
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Portugal NabasKi 
hahaha you cracked me up with that one
2019-10-19 21:09
it was like that tho, no kiddings)
2019-10-19 21:10
#97
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Portugal NabasKi 
that ain't much, i guess most of your damage had no impact whatsoever, therefore rendering your amount of ADR meaningless
2019-10-19 21:10
well kill-less ADR means a lot of impact IMO
2019-10-19 21:11
#112
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Portugal NabasKi 
but having little assists means most of that damage didn't prove useful
2019-10-19 21:13
if you do -40 or below it doesn't count as an assist tho
2019-10-19 21:14
#122
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Portugal NabasKi 
i know it's not that good specially on t-side, where you can do 20 damage to each enemy but your teammates are just going to headshot them with the ak
2019-10-19 21:17
why is it different?? just wondering
2019-10-19 20:51
no clue honestly, but I trust the ESL one more if imma be honest
2019-10-19 20:52
because for esl, avp headshot = 400damage for adr
2019-10-19 20:53
oh lol shuldnt be like that
2019-10-19 20:54
#43
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Portugal NabasKi 
oh, makes a lot of sense then
2019-10-19 20:58
#30 #34 #42
2019-10-19 20:59
57.8 adr
2019-10-19 20:50
#4
2019-10-19 20:50
because he avping...
2019-10-19 20:52
yes but my point stands? imgur.com/a/fyDwp3V
2019-10-19 20:54
for esl, avp headshot = 400damage for adr
2019-10-19 20:55
so AK hs = 138 ADR? 0/8 wtf
2019-10-19 20:55
yes thats hovv esl does it
2019-10-19 20:56
so why doesn't s1mple have 130 ADR? he has a high HS %
2019-10-19 20:57
Because it's an average.
2019-10-19 20:58
like GuardiaN is hitting only HS?
2019-10-19 20:58
No but a single awp headshot boosts it significantly more than a single ak headshot. Not sure why you need this written out for you. Pretty simple stuff.
2019-10-19 20:59
1 AWP HS = 3 AK HS you wanna tell me s1mple didn't hit at least 3x more HS with the AK than GuardiaN did with the AWP?
2019-10-19 21:00
You can go ahead and review the match and look at every single kill. It's a 1:4 ratio, not 1:3 btw. ESL's thing does more than just that too. If someone has 20hp and gets killed by a headshot then it'll count as a 100+ damage kill. HLTV's will say it was a 20damage kill which is more accurate.
2019-10-19 21:03
138 x 3=400 ??? the latter doesn't matter... s1mple definitely killed more people with an AK HS than GuardiaN did with an AWP HS, s1mple as that
2019-10-19 21:05
Oh you know what. I know what happened. On stream, it just showed 2nd half ADR. That's why it was high (a 13-20 scoreline with 100+ adr makes no sense rofl). They just showed the final adr on stream for the postmatch analysis and it was the same as hltv's lol. Case closed.
2019-10-19 21:07
fair enough, #74
2019-10-19 21:11
it is 1:3, but everything else is right
2019-10-19 21:05
Hah. Actually we were both wrong. #124
2019-10-19 21:19
kinda weird for esl to do that but sure
2019-10-19 21:20
What did ESL do? We were wrong about how they calculated headshot kills and lit player kills. They calculated it just like hltv. Every kill is a max of 100damage.
2019-10-19 21:22
actually, no, i think their final stats are like hltv, but their overlay stats are wrong cause in 2nd round pistol they have first half adr
2019-10-19 21:23
stop being that delusional. GuardiaN's ESL ADR is obviously based on AWP HS. He's averaging 58 on this game (3rd Na'Vi player) with an ADR that doesn't count AWP HS.
2019-10-19 21:03
#52 please use your brain
2019-10-19 21:03
we'll see at the end of the game when HLTV display every statistics on matchpage. cuck fanboy in full distress mode lol
2019-10-19 21:04
no just trying to prove a thing or two prove me wrong and I'll admit it
2019-10-19 21:05
just wait for the end of the game.
2019-10-19 21:06
#66 #74 reported btw
2019-10-19 21:07
why report?
2019-10-19 21:07
calling me cuck not cool((
2019-10-19 21:07
are you gonna tell me the way you're defending GuardiaN isn't a cuck behavior??? i love kennyS but i'm not saying he's as insane as he was in 2015. that would make me a delusional cuck.
2019-10-19 21:09
I'm not either, but I don't think he deserves all this hate... he carried FaZe for so long that I just feel like this is undeserved
2019-10-19 21:10
the critics he gets are deserved, he's bad imo. but that's not a criticism about his career, it's about the level he's displaying NOW. and that "hate" thing is a non-event, who cars about HLTV baiters.
2019-10-19 21:12
yea who cars mens(( but it makes me sad, he isn't horrible but 4 sure he dropped by a lot ((((
2019-10-19 21:15
#118
NiKo | 
Morocco royflord 
HAHAHAHAHAHA HE DIDNT CARRY FAZE HE WAS HOLDING THEM BACK and his fans are like : " oh it's just because hE lOsT moTIVatION" fuck him
2019-10-19 21:14
ok? he was the best/2nd best player in FaZe, maybe not at the end now but for the rest he was, are you stupid? oh wait, flair checks out, choko is more washed up than guardian >DDDDDDD
2019-10-19 21:15
#126
NiKo | 
Morocco royflord 
yeah niko was bad for the last 3 months, but guardian was making me wanna throw up while watching him for over a year
2019-10-19 21:16
hltv.org/stats/players/3741/NiKo?startDa.. vs. hltv.org/stats/players/2757/GuardiaN?sta.. he lost motivation in FaZe for a reason, they had their best shot at winning a major and NiKo choked it for them, gg /closed
2019-10-19 21:21
#149
NiKo | 
Morocco royflord 
well he's not a fucking baby, even though i love karrigan, it was the whole team's fault and especially karrigan's cause they choked, yeah i understand if he loses motivation for a month or 2 but losing it for almost 2 years straight is just childish from him
2019-10-19 21:35
yikers
2019-10-19 21:06
because some of his kills are not hs, so it lovvers adr, duh
2019-10-19 20:58
#42
2019-10-19 20:59
even getting 1 avp hs means much higher adr than he should have
2019-10-19 20:59
#52
2019-10-19 21:00
yes, thats why their adr are close, but finishing off an assist on body is 30 for simple, 100 for gaurdian for example
2019-10-19 21:04
he's so sad his childhood hero turned shit.
2019-10-19 21:05
fair enough, this actually makes sense I admit, ty mens) veri cool
2019-10-19 21:06
ok mens))
2019-10-19 21:07
mens))) u so smart I agree with your name mens)))
2019-10-19 21:09
#7
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Sweden Golden_shower 
flair checks out 57.8 adr
2019-10-19 20:50
#3 #4
2019-10-19 20:51
#35
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Sweden Golden_shower 
#19 #26 #27
2019-10-19 20:57
#34 #30
2019-10-19 20:58
#77
2019-10-19 21:11
#74
2019-10-19 21:12
#83
2019-10-19 21:16
#11
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Poland henlo 
yo les noobs There's a difference between a sniper playing for his teammates and the teammates playing for the sniper. I'm co-leading, organizing every defaults, our "bomb site taking", nades, etc .. I'm going first when it's tough eco/buy round, and I'm throwing the nades when we do specific tactics. In the pistol round I'm buying the smokes and flashes. Anyway life is tough sometimes but I'm getting paid very well. I don't care about having 30 frags, 1.50 rating, I don't care having fragmovie about me, I want to win. And you know what? I've been winning since 10 years with all of my teams. I'm not here because I'm shox' best friend. Shox got kicked a couple of times and I've always followed him coz' I like playing with him, we see the game the same way and we have the same work ethic. No disrespect, today we have the best team ever, IG / Outgame. Still a young team but proud of what we've done so far. So thanks you for thoses that are supporting me/us and the ignorant haters eat shit.
2019-10-19 20:51
+1 thank you mens) veri cool
2019-10-19 20:59
i.imgur.com/F4aisiX.png dumb polish scum your family deserves to get beheaded infront of you
2019-10-19 20:51
#4 reported btw
2019-10-19 20:52
110 ADR on stream.
2019-10-19 20:54
+1 finally a smart mens)
2019-10-19 20:54
S1mple had 93 ADR on HLTV but has 97 on stream.
2019-10-19 20:55
yeah exactly
2019-10-19 20:56
FOR Y'ALL THAT STILL USE THE HLTV ADR imgur.com/a/fyDwp3V nt haters
2019-10-19 20:53
110 ADR now where y'all @?
2019-10-19 20:54
for esl, avp headshot = 400damage for adr
2019-10-19 20:55
#88
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Russia Hellyer 
"Still use hltv adr" Any reasons why wouldn't I? Also 107 seems a bit unrealistic for his K/D
2019-10-19 21:08
K/D =/= ADR are you gold nova or do you bait your teammates if I may ask?
2019-10-19 21:08
#119
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Denmark bebm 
be reasonable 28 rounds 107 adr about 3000 damage total that game u think u can do close to 3000 damage on 14 kills 3 assists?
2019-10-19 21:15
yes, I had 101 ADR at 13k and 6 assists once 27round game not sure tho
2019-10-19 21:16
#129
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Denmark bebm 
that happening once doesnt mean it happens all the time also u didnt say how many rounds u played or show any proof fact is in order for this to be possible he would have to lit someone up for 60-80 every round and that dude has to survive so he doesnt get the assist the hltv adr is way more reasonable
2019-10-19 21:18
#66 #74 but my point stands ADR > kills
2019-10-19 21:18
#137
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Denmark bebm 
hltv adr > kills kills > esl adr thats the dumbest thing ever if u kill someone with 1 hp, it should only add 1 damage to ur total, not 100 if u use an awp that doesnt even make sense
2019-10-19 21:20
#146
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Russia Hellyer 
No it's not. You can have most damage and 15 assists a game and it doesn't mean you bring more impact since you can't finish your opponent
2019-10-19 21:24
#134
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Russia Hellyer 
Are you even considering the fact that he plays with awp?
2019-10-19 21:19
Guardian is too old for this shit, imba he gets thrown out of navi for jame. JAME TIME BITCH.
2019-10-19 20:53
2019-10-19 20:53
60.6 adr on hltv. and i m not a "hater" i like guardian but he is not the guardian of old, you have to be blind not to see that.
2019-10-19 20:55
imgur.com/a/fyDwp3V I think you are the only one who's blind
2019-10-19 20:56
Guardian is playing good. Did not think he (and Navi) could be playing this good in such a short period of time after coach, IGL and 1 player change. Well done NaVi, Ladislav and Blad3
2019-10-19 20:57
+1 this is the strongest Na'Vi we've ever seen imo
2019-10-19 20:58
Exactly! I think Blad3 was the best acquisition NaVi made. Everytime I looked at kane he seemed so lost... With Blad3, everytime NaVi makes a tactical pause you see some changes and adaptations (which can go good or bad, but something changes)
2019-10-19 22:01
yeah, now only if GuardiaN found his old form... the dream, they will become a top3 contender soon enough, I disliked B1ad3 when he still played in F3, but now I respect him, he is an actual mastermind, and totally agree about the kane statement
2019-10-19 22:04
Navi are winning, thanks to guardian, rn But not because he is a good awper - because s1mple got rifler position back and now he has much more freedom than he had when he was an awper So your point is 0/8, but the idea is 4/12
2019-10-19 21:01
imgur.com/a/fyDwp3V I aren't think that
2019-10-19 21:01
So that means he can spot an enemy, but cannot kill him? And this is your defense point? Mens?????????
2019-10-19 21:03
wtfmens((( ADR = average damage he did a lot of damage but not kills
2019-10-19 21:03
Its fake adr lol
2019-10-19 21:06
no mens((( wtf #30 #34
2019-10-19 21:08
You are men????????? Adr doesnt count potential damage, it counts dealt damage on accident, otherwise guardian wouldve had fucking assgilion thousands of it.
2019-10-19 21:10
YE MEN))) IM CREATOR OF MENS WTF((( #74
2019-10-19 21:12
Ok mens))) But it wasnt worth of wasting the time on mens((((
2019-10-19 21:14
yemens((( I didnt think of #66, but that mens) is right
2019-10-19 21:17
And s1mple has almost the same number, but twice as many kills You are men??????
2019-10-19 21:07
mens(( #57
2019-10-19 21:08
Im not searching for that shit ass numbers, what am i at - university?
2019-10-19 21:11
yemens))) hltv = university for mens
2019-10-19 21:13
fake adr omg
2019-10-19 21:00
#30 #34 #42 #52
2019-10-19 21:02
#58
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Hungary EZ4WINLANDIA 
AdR iS eVeRyThInG
2019-10-19 21:02
ADR > kills if you think otherwise you are a baiter/noob
2019-10-19 21:04
#133
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Hungary EZ4WINLANDIA 
maybe, but it's still really far from showing who played the best
2019-10-19 21:19
ADR is a better metric to check out honestly. Kills are for retards who can't control their ego lmfao.
2019-10-19 21:04
+1 couldn't agree more
2019-10-19 21:06
I'm sorry this thread is filled with the most braindead egoists of the century man jesus I wish I could go back 30 seconds not knowing this many people are this dumb still. God it's like all the neckbeard boomer ESEA sweaters from 2014-15 are still looking for ways to trick themselved into thinking high kill count is still better than ADR. Like holy shit man.
2019-10-19 21:19
#148
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Russia Hellyer 
You're that kinda of a guy who sits at the bottom of a scoreboard with 20 assists and blames his team lmao
2019-10-19 21:26
Cause you know me bud. Go project your insecurities to some bitch that actually gives a fuck lol.
2019-10-19 21:37
After reading all the comments I have to say 8/8. Well done.
2019-10-19 21:05
+1
2019-10-19 21:07
#74
2019-10-19 21:13
Well ok, fair enough. I just expect 90% that's written on this site, to be bate XD
2019-10-19 21:37
flair checks out
2019-10-19 21:08
expected
2019-10-19 21:09
you asked for it
2019-10-19 21:09
yemens)))
2019-10-19 21:13
To shorten your time: OP is dummy 0/8 baiter check #77
2019-10-19 21:10
#74 you are just a hater really
2019-10-19 21:13
Ye, I hate dellusional people trying to proof something that didn't happen
2019-10-19 21:14
I ain't tho, but I never considered #66, when he mentioned it I admitted that he was right so I can't be delusional))
2019-10-19 21:17
If anyone really wants to know the reason, it's because it was displaying 2nd half ADR at the time. Post-match analysis showed same stats as HLTV - 60adr.
2019-10-19 21:11
and also #66 +1
2019-10-19 21:14
I said that too in one of my earlier responses to you, but if that were true then hltv and esl's ADR wouldn't be the exact same. Same with the HS's accounting for 400+ damage. So, neither of those are true. It was just 2nd half adr. Proof: twitch.tv/videos/496747619 (3:34:45) hltv.org/matches/2336726/g2-vs-natus-vin..
2019-10-19 21:18
Yeah, you are smart mens))) respecc
2019-10-19 21:18
he is their worst player by far. 58 adr 29kills after 2 maps is horrible for awper
2019-10-19 21:19
#66 #74 just give them time plz
2019-10-19 21:22
You are an idiot.
2019-10-19 21:22
name doesn't check out reported btw
2019-10-19 21:22
You really thought he had an ADR of 108 with 29 kills over 56 rounds. Do you even think?
2019-10-19 21:26
cry is free
2019-10-19 21:24
he actually has the worst adr bro
2019-10-19 21:36
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