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I would like to see Device to be the top 1 this year because of to that he would achieve everything but unfortunately Zywoo would probably steal the title.
2019-10-20 20:52
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#1
device | 
Denmark bebm 
as long as he is above s0mple im fine
2019-10-20 20:53
S1mple? i doubt he is top 3 even this year, eligie still in the party mens)))
2019-10-20 20:54
#7
device | 
Denmark bebm 
yeah elige is ahead of s1mple in everything except rating
2019-10-20 20:54
lol. and everything is what then?
2019-10-20 21:18
Mvps, titles and rating vs top 5
2019-10-20 21:26
lol? rly? ratiung vs top 5? hltv.org/stats?startDate=2019-01-01&endD.. Can u tell me why stats says u are wrong? Because u braindamaged?
2019-10-20 21:54
#73
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Japan KAMlKAZE 
25 maps vs 70 rofl
2019-10-21 00:17
a
2019-10-21 15:01
Guess i was wrong, he was higher last time i checked. They have failed a few tournaments since.. Still, you didn't respond to Mvps or titles claim and instead resulted to insults ... you are so cool.
2019-10-21 16:19
Thanks
2019-10-21 16:34
#63
device | 
Denmark bebm 
achievements, consistency, events attended, events with deep runs, mvps, evps, championships etc.
2019-10-21 00:10
lul, prob still mad s1mple moved dev2ce in rating in 2018 xddd
2019-10-20 21:36
#62
device | 
Denmark bebm 
lol prob still mad that s0mple bottom frags major finals while device gets those major mvps enjoy ur 2018 top 1 tho
2019-10-21 00:10
4majors and only 2 mvps just shows he is not that valuable
2019-10-21 00:12
#66
device | 
Denmark bebm 
0 majors and 0 mvps shows how he is a choker btw he had the highest rating at all 4 majors astralis won, or are u just going to ignore that
2019-10-21 00:13
so basically you think he is better because he is good in group stages
2019-10-21 00:14
#70
device | 
Denmark bebm 
and finals lmao unlike s1mple, device's average is positive in finals
2019-10-21 00:14
xaxaxaxa device has better team thats the only reason he has more mvps and majors
2019-10-21 00:16
#72
device | 
Denmark bebm 
if device was always carried, then how come he wins 90% of the mvps, and when he got injured in 2017-early 2018, that was the worst form the core has ever been in, missing their first major playoffs
2019-10-21 00:17
90% LUL im not saying he is carried just saying he hasnt played with zeus edward or na bots all of his career
2019-10-21 00:18
#75
device | 
Denmark bebm 
Since magisk joined astralis won 13 titles Device won 10 mvps, 2 out of 3 major mvps, so not 90% but over 75%, and might i add more mvps than s1mple total trophies Maybe if s1mple was more of a team player they would win more
2019-10-21 00:20
#78
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
So if device is not carried or such a TOP1 team player of all time why the fuck he wasn’t able to win any majors before 2016 ? Or the fact he was hard carried by shakerbye against VP on 3rd map ? Top1 teamplayer still couldn’t win anything until he got 4 top20 players on his team lmao
2019-10-21 00:23
#81
device | 
Denmark bebm 
so many things wrong with what u said no majors before 2016? with choker karrigan and cajunb on his team? just be glad they won some t1 events and consistently made semis like s0mple rn at majors even if they were choking, also device was like 18-19 at that time lmao carried by kjaerbye on 1 map? sure, but he carried the team for the rest of the game, admittingly he did horrible that final but that doesnt erase the fact he was by far the best player for the groups/quarters/semis, and he redeemed himself by top fragging the next 3 finals if u average them out he didnt win anything until he got 4 top 20 players? wrong 2015 they won like 4-5 t1 events, 2016 they won 1 t1 event, 2017 they won 1 major and a katowice, also being the best out of 4 top 20 players says something doesnt it? 3 easy debunks for ur 3 retarded arguments faze forever 0 majors, faze forever chokers, dont even mention them in the same sentense as astralis
2019-10-21 00:29
#111
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Iceland Iceland 
You just admitted that they were performing at the same lvl as navi until they got a roster filled with the best players in the world.... Dev1ce is a good player but he could not perform at the same lvl as s1mple individually.
2019-10-21 13:15
#121
device | 
Denmark bebm 
i admitted they were performing at the same lvl as navi at majors tsm was better than navi at non major events
2019-10-21 15:45
well I didn't say anything, but couldn't help noticing that your comment was full of salt >>> ''as long as he is above s0mple im fine'' IMAO xdd
2019-10-21 06:17
Device goat S0mple not goat Device 4 major S0mple 0 major N T
2019-10-21 11:23
hltv.org/stats?startDate=2019-01-01&endD.. Camping, baiting and saving to have only 1.22? MEN))))
2019-10-21 15:02
+1
2019-10-21 15:24
if s1mple had the same conditions as device, he would have all of that and more just lucky, not goat
2019-10-21 16:24
nah he would still have a face full of pimples and 0 majors. S0mple stat pad in the playoffs to look good, he plays for himself i mean just look at his stats against top5 teams this year, he's not even top20 lmfao and then they went 0-10 at home in Moscow with Electronic being their best player hahahha absolutely embarrassing player, also choked a knife kill against nitr0 because he's so fucking dumb
2019-10-21 16:30
don't agree, when device plays bad his teammates step up and win anyways (not always ofc) also when his team play bad he usually can't do shit to get them back into the game s1mple wouldn't be toxic if his team was as good as device's teammates, he got disappointed so many times and yea, don't forget that device used to be a choker, he started to win majors around the age of s1mple right now and then he became ''goat'' candidate all of a sudden
2019-10-21 16:43
when device plays bad they usually dont win, just look at the finals against eG in new york, he was close to bottom fragging so they didnt win. Your second statement makes no sense there have been matches where he had more than double the stats of the second best player pulling them through also the choker statement is what ppl who didnt follow the scene back then likes to believe, the truth was that they never actually choked a match (if ur choking a match it means that ur winning it but cant close it out, this is not the case as they won several t1 trophies and reached the semi-finals and quater-finals of all majors except for 1 with a team much worse than what they have now (karrigan instead of glaive and cajunb instead of magisk). If u by choking mean they didnt win as much as they do now then i guess all other teams apart from Astralis are choking teams???
2019-10-21 16:51
well Na'Vi with s1mple also won several tier1 events, ofc most of them after zeus came back, cause no decent igl = no wins (FaZe good example), so what I mean that if s1mple had really strong teammates and Na'Vi was not relying so much on their players to show up and more on consistency and strategy work, s1mple would have really good chances to have several majors at this point
2019-10-21 17:03
to put it simple: 1) as a player s1mple is highly skilled, has very good gamesense and he's also smart enough player (except some cases, but that shit with a knife, Na'Vi are bots to let nitro clutch with low hp) to be an upgrade to any team 2) CIS mentality and lack of professionalism from Na'Vi organisation and players fucked his career from being stellar 3) his lack of patience and toxic behavior here and there are his main flaws as a player
2019-10-21 17:22
Nt. Device GOAT
2019-10-21 17:02
GOAT must be both goat as teamplayer and individual player in my eyes, so no, not really
2019-10-21 17:05
2 major mvps for nothing Top 5 for 5 years for only baiting yes <:
2019-10-21 18:45
still worse player skill-wise than zywoo, s1mple, prime niko 13-5 vs s1mple 1v1 wtf, you're supposed to be goat, show some fight
2019-10-21 19:14
Idiot.
2019-10-21 19:30
haha mad got rekt biyatch
2019-10-21 19:31
Device 1 goat S0mple 0 goat
2019-10-21 20:27
I remember s1mple flick...
2019-10-21 20:44
#105
s1mple | 
India YETl 
He will always be above S1MPLE when it comes to camping
2019-10-21 12:06
0/8
2019-10-20 20:53
why
2019-10-20 20:58
ok
2019-10-20 20:53
Vitality won't win major same NAVI.
2019-10-20 20:58
ok :(
2019-10-20 21:21
i just put a spoon in a draw
2019-10-21 16:30
zywoo starplayer in tier2 team. ez to boost stats that way dev1ce true #1 and GOAT of csgo
2019-10-20 20:53
0/8 if vita is tier t2 what is than tier1?
2019-10-21 08:14
If vita tier 2 then other teams are tier 15? :D
2019-10-21 16:56
#5
shox | 
France Malo0o 
u can't be top 1 with eco frag
2019-10-20 20:54
#8
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Denmark Tobias191O 
everyone eco frags? Should he just let them pass instead of killing them?
2019-10-20 20:55
#11
shox | 
France Malo0o 
but why he let them pass in gun rounds ?
2019-10-20 20:56
#96
dupreeh | 
Denmark grindz 
French brain thinking you should just troll the other team when they have eco. Of course you farm money with smgs etc.
2019-10-21 08:56
#99
shox | 
France Malo0o 
u can say what u want but dev1ce will never become top1 and u know it
2019-10-21 11:21
He will this year. S1mple hasn't been playing like he did last year. ZyWoo is the only contender but i think device will get it.
2019-10-21 11:58
#118
shox | 
France Malo0o 
dev1ce < zywoo nt
2019-10-21 15:24
Nah.
2019-10-21 15:24
#147
ZywOo | 
France Qaze 
ZywOo is by far #1 Even when device had more mvps, he still didn’t get it because of low rating compared to s1mple
2019-10-21 20:47
#103
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France J0riS 
Ahahaha +1
2019-10-21 11:31
#117
shox | 
France Malo0o 
<<<333
2019-10-21 15:22
device should be top 1, zywoo can get second place
2019-10-20 20:55
nah zywoo device elige s0mple
2019-10-20 20:56
Switch device and zywoo and you're golden. Majors should count for more than just pure rating. Who cares if zywoo destroyed some tier 2/3 teams in the group stages before losing in the quarter- or semi finals.
2019-10-20 20:58
Zywoo has better stats against T1 teams than against T2 /3 teams. dev1ce gets most of his good Stats from lesser teams rather than higher teams. so Zywoo > Dev1ce
2019-10-20 21:09
And I'm Tinkerbell. Do you want to meet Peter Pan?
2019-10-20 21:12
yes please. seems more reasonable for me to meet peter pan than for device to be above zywoo this year.
2019-10-20 21:12
I'll make an appointment with Peter, man! Both players have almost the same rating, but device actually won tournaments worth mentioning. Both majors. I have no doubts zywoo is the better player individually, but this is a team game afterall and winning the two biggest tournaments in CS:GO this year should count for more than just raw stats in lesser tournaments
2019-10-20 21:16
yeah but there is a different tab for team ratings and individual skill isnt there? TOP 20 is meant for the individual players and not the team. and device won only 1 major in 2019 and for the rest astralis has not been present in the first 3-4 months of the year when liquid had a small "era". and vitality still performed good throughout all of that. zywoo is 1 device is 2 thats the only available ranking at this point, if zywoo doesnt start choking there is no way for him to not be #1 this year
2019-10-20 21:27
You can't just measure ratings, since Astralis are playing more semi finals and finals against tougher teams. It matters what tournaments the players performs at what titles they win. CS:GO is a team game after all, it doesn't matter if zywoo is better individually if he can't perform on a team on the highest level. At the stats-page he only have 0.04 better ratings compared to device, but device won both majors and played bigger matches against better opponents where the stats naturally would be worse than if you played in the group stages or early play offs.
2019-10-21 08:06
Bigger opponents? In the major astralis had one of the easier runs due to getting matched against the easiest teams. Vitality is lower seeded and gets a bit more tougher teams. Zywoo has performed better than device at high level and they have been more consistent throughout the year as team as well. Astralis was barely present in the first quarter of the year while vitality is consistent and keeps performing good
2019-10-21 10:51
Yes, harder opponents. Astralis beat both Liquid and NRG at the major and you call it easy route lmao. Astralis would beat everyone no matter what teams at the major, but zywoo just boosting his stats against nobodies. Just look now. Zywoo best Vitality player against unknown tier 7 team 'Invictus'. Fan boys like you will use his stats against this no-name team to argue for Zywoo top 1 2019. device major MVP, won the biggest tournaments of the year, while zywoo is just farming bots in the group stages. Easily top 1 for device
2019-10-21 12:36
“Boosting stats” while its proven Zywoo has better stats against higher teams than lower teams. Device has good rating against lower teams mostly. Check your facts
2019-10-21 13:01
No its not. This is your own delusion. device even have 2 major MVPs lmao
2019-10-21 13:03
1 major was 2018 1 major was with a fluke avangar run, a shitty liquid but a good EG yes. don't think that they were big impactful runs from astralis. the first one yes but it was 2018 so it doesnt count.
2019-10-21 17:01
Big event stats is what matter the most...
2019-10-20 21:16
Majors > big event
2019-10-20 21:17
you're hopeless
2019-10-20 21:29
NO!
2019-10-21 08:02
#16
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Poland wiktorex 
hbaha top 1 ? are you crazy ?
2019-10-20 21:00
device > s0mple this year, how does that make you feel?
2019-10-20 21:01
on paper, but not really, got rekt 1v1 no so long ago
2019-10-20 21:40
#55
DaZeD | 
Turkey qubeKs 
Lmao simple can only beat device in 1v1s xd. If you remember device rekt simple how many times in 5v5s right?
2019-10-20 21:58
you mean Astralis rekt Na'Vi? get your facts straight please
2019-10-20 22:01
#57
DaZeD | 
Turkey qubeKs 
Ofc astarlis rekt navi, are you blind or what? Well, as a team astralis won many times over navi. Is that enough?
2019-10-20 22:06
so say Astralis, don't say device, since we are talking about players as individuals not about teams, what's so hard about understanding it lol
2019-10-20 22:10
#68
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Hungary mEZENCEphalon 
look at the flag and you'll understand
2019-10-21 00:13
flag has nothing to do with what I said, nt everyone knows s1mple is better than device as individual, 13-5 to prove it *khm* *khm*
2019-10-21 06:23
oh my bad, woke up early and misread your comment :D happens to me sometimes
2019-10-21 06:39
#97
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Hungary mEZENCEphalon 
its ok)))
2019-10-21 10:42
Doesn't matter who wins in some irrelevant random 1v1 map. CS:GO is a team game, its all about the performances in a 5v5 enviroment at big LANs. If 1v1 had any credibility at all, HLTV.org would just make a 1v1 tournament and the winner would be top 1.
2019-10-21 08:01
yes, I know, all im saying that s1mple is better individual player
2019-10-21 16:45
zywoo will be first
2019-10-21 08:03
...first in the line to McDonald's ordering five burgers
2019-10-21 08:07
0/8
2019-10-21 08:07
#15
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Portugal baki_ 
elige top1 so far
2019-10-20 20:58
he will be placed top 3 for sure but zywoo can be top 1, top 2-3 device/elige probably.
2019-10-20 21:02
#19
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Portugal baki_ 
zywoo cant be top 1, not enough titles
2019-10-20 21:03
Zywoo probably will be top 1, 2 mvps at events Vitality lost, EVPs at pretty much every event Vitality attends, statistically the best player. Not that I necessarily agree, but it will probably happen.
2019-10-21 08:14
Liquid have had 4 good months Else pure shit :) i dont Think they Will have any top 3 player for 2019
2019-10-20 21:35
#79
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
Well Astralis was hiding at that moment sooo
2019-10-21 00:25
zywoo will be pretty easily 1st
2019-10-21 08:03
Zywoo is way better in anything compared to device,other than trophies.
2019-10-20 21:03
Still many titles got device we will see.
2019-10-20 21:04
So 3 titles are a lot nowadays?
2019-10-20 21:10
2 majors ..
2019-10-20 21:35
same, seeing him being the first one to get 3 major mvps would be nice too
2019-10-20 21:13
yes.
2019-10-20 21:24
"steal" the tittle
2019-10-20 21:15
it belongs to Dev.
2019-10-20 21:26
It will belong to the best, maybe next year. Why this is so important for you?
2019-10-20 21:31
To Dev*
2019-10-20 21:30
answer the question.
2019-10-20 21:31
Cause im Dev and it's my alt lol.
2019-10-20 21:32
#31
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Denmark d1ckweed 
he can, there's still 4 events left with a 5th one that astralis could secure soon (ecs)
2019-10-20 21:18
I hope.
2019-10-20 21:23
#42
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Europe braxtey 
ZywOo is going to suck cock! His not gona be #1
2019-10-20 21:31
+1
2019-10-20 21:32
#52
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Argentina trackssZZZ 
hahhahahahahahahaha wtf unespected
2019-10-20 21:44
Its hard - maybe simple again :) but i see it as a close race btw zywoo simple device and maybe magisk if astralis goes mental in Q4
2019-10-20 21:37
I'm a fan of s1mple,but he is not going to be top1. He has good stats,but Zywoo is better than him in most categories and he has more achievments and map played.
2019-10-20 21:39
Elige still on the party.
2019-10-20 21:55
#59
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Poland PainItsMe 
nt top 5 in this year: 1 s1mple 2 elige 3 twistzz 4 naf 5 brehze
2019-10-20 22:13
#60
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Poland PainItsMe 
+ btw vp #21 ib #125
2019-10-20 22:13
#61
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Poland PainItsMe 
nt
2019-10-20 22:14
0/8
2019-10-21 08:04
0/8
2019-10-21 11:25
1 elige 2 zywoo 3 device/s1mple 4 device/s1mple 5 brehze
2019-10-21 00:11
ZywOo EliGE s0mple dev2ce
2019-10-21 00:13
Zywoo deserves number 1
2019-10-21 00:21
#77
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United States ryvengod 
S1mple gonna be no1:)
2019-10-21 00:22
Nice joke
2019-10-21 13:06
#80
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
Neither s0mple nor ecov2ce deserves to be in top2 this year (especially ecov2ce since s0mple will definitely be out from top2). It’s between Elige and ZyWoo. Remember, it’s not the ranking where we compare teams :) It’s individual player rankings 😉
2019-10-21 00:27
i dont think that its between them at all... hltv.org/stats/players/compare/11893/Zyw.. vs top10 on lan hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2019-01.. vs top5 on lan hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2019-01.. mvp zywoo 4 elige 3 the difference is HUGE
2019-10-21 08:09
ELIGE GOOD FOR 60-70 DAYS (FLUKE) NOW YOU WANT HIM TO BE TOP 1 XDDD BELGIUM BRAIN
2019-10-21 11:26
#112
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
Flair, flag and username checks out.
2019-10-21 14:58
1. Device 2. Zywoo/Elige 3. Zywoo/Elige Then I would put Magisk, S1mple, Twistzz, Brehze (no particular order).
2019-10-21 13:10
huh
2019-10-21 20:32
2019-10-21 20:46
#113
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Norway Darkcone 
Device GOAT
2019-10-21 15:00
he is the goat
2019-10-21 15:02
Goat with no #1 LUL
2019-10-21 20:45
Thats the thing which makes device's situation difficult , there is always someone else that is just that little bit better. Niko was in the same situation when coldzera and s1mple were #1. For device, its not that he isnt good enough to be considered #1, but when there are players like Zywoo and s1mple it makes it hard to justify him over these players. Device wins tournaments and majors though, so he cant be mad about it.
2019-10-21 16:41
TUPAC GOAT
2019-10-21 18:47
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