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Atheists COME (Pascal's Wager)
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United States BubbleFlames(BestNaUser) 
Belief in God: God is real = Infinite Gain (Heaven) God is not real = Insignificant Loss Disbelief in God: God is real = Infinite Loss (Hell) God is not real = Insignificant Loss Your so called "logic" should lead you towards religion. There is no evidence for OR against God.
2019-10-20 23:54
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what if church girl is an atheist
2019-10-20 23:54
I will show her this thread
2019-10-20 23:55
#2
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Korea ARBOGA 
agnostic = woke???
2019-10-20 23:55
Agnostics are sitting on a middle line that does not exist. I have not really thought about this, but I assume agnostics go to hell (if God is real) So the above still applies
2019-10-20 23:56
#9
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Korea ARBOGA 
jesus died for our sins, we will all go to heaven, once we die we are forgiven. that's what i've been told at my church.
2019-10-20 23:58
We are only forgiven if we ask for forgiveness though.
2019-10-20 23:59
#14
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Korea ARBOGA 
yeah and we can only ask for forgiveness if there is life after death, we will find out then. also stop spouting this "you're going to hell" bs. that's catholic scare tactics, back in the day the church sold forgiveness letters and other things like that. can't believe people still today try to scare people with hell, pathetic.
2019-10-21 00:01
i am catholic, and i agree with you. Nowadays tho, we don't sprout that kind of stuff
2019-10-21 00:31
I like that you discredit it because it does not "exist", just like your GOD!
2019-10-21 00:05
The only god i believe in is HUNDEN
2019-10-20 23:56
#68
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Austria cm_attack 
And ocean
2019-10-21 00:41
#5
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Brazil jstrr 
so believing in god basically means you're a pussy? sounds about right tbh
2019-10-20 23:56
Everyone should be afraid of eternal torture no?
2019-10-20 23:57
Fake news, fairytales and an excuse to explain the unknown.
2019-10-21 00:08
I'm atheist, I studied the bible in college. I guarantee you that I know more about your bible than you do and you claim to be Christian. IF you did actually ever bother to read it, you'd be atheist too. Believing in a religion out of a fear tactic put in place by the religion to keep people from questioning it is a really dumb ass excuse to call yourself a Christian. If that is in fact while you call yourself one, then you are no more one than I am.
2019-10-21 00:32
what makes the bible more holy than winnie the pooh book
2019-10-20 23:57
Because it's the word of God, the creator of the universe, you might have heard of him.
2019-10-21 00:14
proof?
2019-10-21 00:16
Witness statements from the resurrection of Jesus Christ. You should read the Bible, my friend. You need to get your affairs in order, you never know when it's time to pass on.
2019-10-21 00:20
0/8 do better
2019-10-21 00:21
Atleast we have some kind of evidence and it's more reasonable to believe in a creator. You have no evidence for your world view and it's unreasonable to think nothing created something out of nothing.
2019-10-21 00:24
yes an old book great evidence 10/10 and if he was actually real how come he isn't helping the starving children that actually believes in him while the most atheist countries are the most succesful ones?
2019-10-21 00:28
Please explain how starving children is something bad in your worldview. Please don't tell me the western world, with it's christian foundation is your example of a successful atheist civilization? If it is, then ask yourself why the western world started to crumble after the abolishment of christianity.
2019-10-21 00:32
starving children is bad in anyones worldview unless they're a psychopath? xD oh yes western world is totally crumbling, go move to a highly religious country like pakistan, bolivia or nepal and see how it is there
2019-10-21 00:38
Of course you can't tell me why it's objectively bad, because it isn't. Morality is subjective in an atheistic worldview.
2019-10-21 01:02
wow thank you for that reply, it confirms ur baiting almost lost the tiny faith I had left for shitmerica
2019-10-21 01:56
It's 2019 and people still think religions are real, lmao.
2019-10-20 23:59
#12
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India l3thality 
I give zero fucks about facing 'eternal suffering' after my death. THERE IS NO GOD. That's all. I'm not doing this for money, just trying to help the disillusioned people. I won't pray to him if he exists. I'm the one who controls this so-called fate, not god. It's true, take it. Luck is non-existent. It's simply how we refer to probability of events turning in our favor.
2019-10-21 00:02
But why risk it? Let me say, I will be 100% fine if there is no God. I will have lived a good life, hopefully made a difference in many peoples lives, and my existence will simply end. Sounds great.
2019-10-21 00:01
I cant believe people like you have right to vote democracy was a mistake
2019-10-21 00:03
I do not have the right to vote. I am 16. #YangGang though
2019-10-21 00:03
so you have been brainwashed by ur parents sad how its legal
2019-10-21 00:04
I have had my "atheist stage" just like almost every kid who grew up religious. I came back to religion because it seems better.
2019-10-21 00:05
"atheist stage" thats probably the most american thing I have ever read, atheist is the natural, no one is born religious, its all brainwashing by parents
2019-10-21 00:11
#18
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India l3thality 
I told you, I'm very convinced that He doesn't exist. So much that I wouldn't mind taking the risk of 'eternal suffering'. Yes, your life will inevitably end, as nothing in this universe can remain in one energy form forever, they convert to other forms. It's how the universe works, so please close the Gita/Bible/Quran and study Science and Philosophy (for moral support in life).
2019-10-21 00:08
#84
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Australia t0rrent 
Risk = probability * consequence You don't know the magnitude of either of these variables to quantify the risk
2019-10-21 10:20
#16
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Russia F1Z1K 
If you simply believe in God, you won't get to heaven, since you need to follow all the rules which means you have to fuck up your life and spend most of your time on learning the religion and following its rules. So it must be like that: Belief in God: God is real and you believe in God but don't follow the rules and don't spend most of your time on it = infinite loss (hell) God is real and you follow everything (which is very hard and you won't be able to enjoy your real life) = MAYBE infinite gain (heaven) God is not real = Insignificant Loss Disbelief in God: God is real = Infinite Loss (Hell) God is not real = Insignificant Loss
2019-10-21 00:03
#20
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Myanmar Guzhas 
if you believe in god heaven and all good things awaits you, if you're open-minded and don't really think that there's something eternal in the "clouds", well then hell is the place you'll go=D braindead
2019-10-21 00:04
if i go to hell just because i dont believe in something that has no evidence of existing, then god is an asshole. Worshiping someone just out of the fear of going to hell isnt worshipping them, its fucked up
2019-10-21 00:06
Very true.
2019-10-21 00:07
There is no god so he can't be an ashole
2019-10-21 00:08
We aren't talking about whether or not there is a God in this thread. Because it is impossible to know.
2019-10-21 00:09
christain god? we know it's not real, just basic common sense
2019-10-21 00:09
If you don't have evidence for or against something, you cannot know if it is true or false.
2019-10-21 00:10
evidence is that we know how religion came to be existing and how they are basic nonsense
2019-10-21 00:11
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Brazil dmn1 
you actually do have some kind of evidence against the christian god, like the big bang and evolution disproving creationism sure, that does not prove there is no god at all, but it proves that if there is one, its not the one described in the bible
2019-10-21 00:37
probably not, but im talking hypothetically
2019-10-21 00:12
Fuck religion, especially dumbianity
2019-10-21 00:08
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India l3thality 
+1 Religion is mostly the root cause for conflict then and today,
2019-10-21 00:14
#28
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United States me_0_major 
Belief in God: Your god is the real God (incredibly small chance) = Infinite Gain (Heaven) Your god is a fake God (vast majority chance) = Infinite Loss (Hell) Disbelief in God: God is real = Infinite Loss (Hell) God is not real = Insignificant Loss Good luck with church girl btw
2019-10-21 00:08
#29
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Germany Merkelistan 
Pascal was a debil
2019-10-21 00:09
Seems like a smart dude
2019-10-21 00:10
#36
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Poland DaTreiN 
Its not really a choice if you believe or not
2019-10-21 00:11
Insignificant loss? I get to live my life without worshiping someone who doesn't exist and following his rules.
2019-10-21 00:12
Most people would agree that religion makes their lives better, not worse. The only thing I don't like about Christianity is no big sexy time (((((( But that's probably best in the long run
2019-10-21 00:13
Yes, a religious person would say that.
2019-10-21 00:14
Tell that to women in the middle east lol
2019-10-21 00:27
#39
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India l3thality 
Blaise Pascal was a great scientist, but he shows so much theist ideology in this principle. Expected, as people were critical to atheists then but now things are different.
2019-10-21 00:12
think on this if god is not real then who write the bible? not so smart now...
2019-10-21 00:15
#46
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United Kingdom trtr098 
God is not real = Insignificant Loss WTF you spend your entire life wearing Burka and pray 5 times a day, not to mention the yearly fasting!
2019-10-21 00:18
My religious beliefs come down to love God and love others. I don't do the crazy stuff :P
2019-10-21 00:20
I was in church school and church club after school since i was 8 til around 14 and learned about god everyday, i even read some of the koran. And now 11 years later im 100% sure that religion is fictional, there is absolute no proof of existence, and all it has done is divide people in groups, cause wars and fights through out hundreds of years... It's one of the worlds cancers, we are way more advanced now and can explain alot of the things that where unexplainable back when the religion was picked up on, always used to explain the unexplainable, like natural disasters and other things they dident have knowledge of that we do now.
2019-10-21 00:20
Humans are silly and sinful. Naturally when you put religion in their hands, it will become corrupted. If everyone followed the two core rules, love God and love others, religion would not be so toxic.
2019-10-21 00:21
I love other but i don't love god cus he don't exist and it seems to work just as well as your process
2019-10-21 00:24
you're assuming god cares if you believe in him
2019-10-21 00:23
If he cares, good If he doesn't care, it doesn't matter
2019-10-21 00:23
yes
2019-10-21 00:24
#70
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Lithuania arres 
#69
2019-10-21 00:52
#59
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Australia t0rrent 
Ok I just created my own religion and to join you need to send me $10 otherwise you will go to hell. Belief in god: God is real = Infinite Gain (Heaven) God is not real = Insignificant Loss ($10) Disbelief in god: God is real = Infinite Loss (Hell) God is not real = Insignificant Loss ($10) So logically you should send me your money because the consequences hold infinitely more weight.
2019-10-21 00:29
Pascals wager would mean believing in God for the sake of going to heaven which God would see through and send you to hell for greed. Having a religion should be because you actually believe that it is the wholehearted truth, not just to get the benefits out of it.
2019-10-21 00:28
So i should believe in someone just because i'm afraid of what could happen
2019-10-21 00:38
There is no god, if anything i am the god of myself and i choose what is possible and what isnt I dont respect people like you telling other people what would be better to do because you think so because you are wrong.
2019-10-21 00:39
#69
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Lithuania arres 
Dedicating your whole life to God and giving away time, energy, donating to church, etc. is not an insignificant loss. The premise is false. You should value your life more than that.
2019-10-21 00:51
in god? thers more than 1 god bruh
2019-10-21 00:55
Oops, I almost forgot about Zeus
2019-10-21 01:04
Yikes
2019-10-21 00:57
people related to church will go to hell since if Jesus was real he was against money luxury or shit like that and that's the only thing the church wants and cares about, in Brasil some even donate fucking houses and cars to the " Mundial Church Power of God" and Valdemiro Santiago got millionaire by using that money to invest in heads of cattle. youtube.com/watch?v=EZcEYcQdrrA check this motherfucker out lmao, i mean it's in portuguese but the first minute u'll get it without understanding what they are saying.
2019-10-21 01:08
Church eveyrwhere everytime was always curropted and it will not change in the future, poeple will just use it for money, power, abuse, etc. That's why we should remove bloody gods from the face of the earth
2019-10-21 01:53
agreed, it's all meant to divide the population. religion is one of the most or even the number 1 cause of mass killings. the "elite" knows what they are doing, and people without even noticing are just following the commands xd
2019-10-21 03:10
#78
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Ukraine s1v9mple 
Agnostism best
2019-10-21 02:25
nt delusional god believer.
2019-10-21 10:07
#80
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Serbia d1ckson 
What if god is real, but it'a not the one you think it is?
2019-10-21 10:05
#82
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Europe juanoo 
Imagine beliving in god 🤡
2019-10-21 10:11
+1
2019-10-21 10:22
Pascal's wager makes the assumption that there is just one god. What makes monotheistic religions true and polytheistic religions false? Flawed argument imo
2019-10-21 10:15
Prove to me a flying spaghetti monster doesn't exist!!!!!!! Oh no you can't!
2019-10-21 10:23
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cyx | 
South Africa bonkaz 
I don't believe in god. That's a sin, right? But this mexican guy Jésus died for our sins. So it's ok.
2019-10-21 10:28
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