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Most overrated player?
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Sweden LandoBaitor 
Shroud... This guy was an average NA player for me. Maybe top40 player in the world. Only relevant because of sick clips on stream but do u actually remember a sick play in pro match? Cry is free C9 & shroud fanboys
2019-10-21 12:28
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#1
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Sweden changrai 
woxic
2019-10-21 12:28
how much ?
2019-10-21 12:31
#10
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Sweden changrai 
flag checks out
2019-10-21 12:32
#9
woxic | 
Turkey sedo7 
is great
2019-10-21 12:31
flair checks out
2019-10-21 14:02
#73
woxic | 
Turkey sedo7 
is that country flag or corner flag? i couldn't recognize yours
2019-10-21 14:14
is trash
2019-10-22 11:39
#100
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Sweden changrai 
True! I really got those turks riled up Lul
2019-10-22 12:22
#2
FL1T | 
Austria sometime2 
youtube.com/watch?v=X8GT3xyL164 ARE YOU KIDDING ME SHROUD 4 KILLS CAN ANYONE TAKE THIS MAN DOWN
2019-10-21 12:29
#5
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Sweden LandoBaitor 
That's not even so sick. I mean it looks good because of his weird flicks but that's it tbh
2019-10-21 12:30
+1
2019-10-21 12:36
Siezed still gets the kill it almost looked like Skadoodle had actually come out on top there. What a flick coming in, Shroud getting one, another headshot! HE'S TAPPING AWAY SHROUD! CAN HE DO IT AGAIN HE'S UP TO 11 KILLS AND LOOKING FOR NUMBER 12! ARE YOU KIDDING ME SHROUD!? 4 KILLS! CAN ANYONE TAKE THIS MAN DOWN!? HE'S GET 12 AND 0! HE'S A ONE MAN ARMY!
2019-10-21 12:35
#3
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Ivory Coast luros 
Tenz LUL NA fanboys thought they have Zywoo 2.0 but in the end he was only good in killing bots xxaxaxaxax
2019-10-21 12:29
atleast he wasn't blatant like forsaken
2019-10-21 12:37
axaxaxax ez rekt vertical India
2019-10-22 11:40
#4
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Ukraine Razumist 
stewie
2019-10-21 12:29
+1
2019-10-21 12:47
#34
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Japan eternaL_ 
I don’t see how he’s overrated when most people in the community think he’s bad anyways?
2019-10-21 12:50
Only most people. Not all of them. Some people still hype him though he is only trashtalker. Last time he was any good was in cloud9.
2019-10-21 12:55
#57
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Japan eternaL_ 
Most = majority. If the majority of the community calls him bad then how can the minority’s opinion outweigh them? I can agree that he’s not that great of a player individually but he has had a big impact on Liquid and is a big part of their success. I don’t hype him, but people don’t really see his role and the things he does and that frustrates me quite a bit in all honesty. Having said that though, he does lose a lot of duels and that’s also frustrating to watch. He’s always been my favourite player but I can understand where the hate comes from because he can come off as very arrogant.
2019-10-21 13:06
I have to give to you that he is not overrated bc most people think he is bad. But I am just a simple Stewie hater and I had to give the man +1. You are very right that i dont see the impact he has on liquid because im blinded by my hate for him. There may be some role or things he does in team but i hate arrogant trashtalkers with every bone in my body so i will never be able to see it. I hope u can understand me and dont hate me for it. Or you can hate me i really cant care less but its for your own peace and i think its pointles to hate some random dude on as toxic site as hltv is bc he dont see what u see.
2019-10-21 13:48
#64
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus 
i dont see him as overrated tho you feel me?
2019-10-21 13:59
+1
2019-10-23 12:47
#6
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CIS Trashus_Losere 
mouz
2019-10-21 12:31
#117
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China Rynaki 
+1 Karrigan, ChrisJ, ropz, w0xic and frozen all overrated
2019-10-22 16:02
XANTARES
2019-10-21 12:31
#11
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Sweden LandoBaitor 
True forgot about him. Insane aim and crosshair placement but no game sense and ez to counter in a pro match
2019-10-21 12:32
nice skill but no brain+onliner
2019-10-21 12:33
#15
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Sweden LandoBaitor 
Yeah, also everyone knows that xantares always peaks, even tho he has disadvantage
2019-10-21 12:34
S1mple
2019-10-21 12:32
Damn
2019-10-21 12:34
#17
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Sweden LandoBaitor 
I mean his stats were a little bit boosted because teammates played around him but he's still insane
2019-10-21 12:34
Almost didnt played any tournament this year, still ppl are hyping him as the best player 2019. Not sure if he even reach top 10 players of 2019.
2019-10-21 12:48
#35
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Sweden LandoBaitor 
Lol he is still top3 for me
2019-10-21 12:50
Top3 2019? Then you missed alot of CS this year boii.
2019-10-21 12:54
#45
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Sweden LandoBaitor 
Who's better? Zywoo, electronic
2019-10-21 12:58
zywoo, elige, device
2019-10-21 13:02
This means absolutely fuck all
2019-10-22 12:08
literally s1mple > dev2ce lul
2019-10-22 13:30
not in 2019 device 2 major mvps lol. s1mple hasn't done ANYTHING
2019-10-22 13:57
'Literally s1mple > dev2ce' I know belgians aren't the brightest minds in the world but it isn't hard to read m8
2019-10-22 14:29
Not in 2019. I know Dutch people are severely lagging behind Flanders in secondary education but I didn't think reading comprehension would be that bad. A 1v1 proves nothing.
2019-10-22 15:53
That guy literally won T1 tournaments alone
2019-10-21 14:12
This year?
2019-10-21 16:07
IEM Shangai, for example
2019-10-22 11:30
#74
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Russia xenydok 
top 1-3 this year , mark my words detractors
2019-10-21 14:22
S1mple 2-3, zywoo top 1
2019-10-22 12:15
+1
2019-10-22 11:41
JW
2019-10-21 12:33
#20
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Netherlands byznavy 
Jew is Nuts but has ups and downs
2019-10-21 12:36
-1
2019-10-21 12:59
#118
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China Rynaki 
+1
2019-10-22 16:05
#19
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Romania En!gma0 
If we talk about skill, then I think Scream. The difference between how he is praised to be and how he actually plays is enormous. And while NiP fans might want to take my scalp, Get_Right was an awesome player .. years ago, not recently. He was loyal but that's all.
2019-10-21 12:36
#25
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Sweden LandoBaitor 
Screams playstyle is insane in theory but he needs like 100h training cs a week to make it work
2019-10-21 12:40
I wouldn't say GTR is overrated though, he gets called a bot all the time nowadays.
2019-10-21 12:44
#27
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Romania En!gma0 
He is praised as legendary .. do you actually see his run as legendary?
2019-10-21 12:44
Not for the last 2 years but otherwise his overall career is the stuff of legends.
2019-10-21 12:49
Newfag
2019-10-22 11:33
#90
African Union wtbx 
Don't think Scream was overrated, back when he was on form he was so so good and I think he's just lived off of that in the present day when he is not so good so when people see Scream, they relate to his previous skill level.
2019-10-22 11:46
#23
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Europe black1ch 
frozen
2019-10-21 12:38
agree with your bro, but its the problem with most NA pro, they have sick clips on streams when they play their shitty NA FPL or just play vs shitty teams in their region, so delusional NA fans always overrate their players. The best examples are shroud and swag
2019-10-21 12:39
#39
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Japan eternaL_ 
True, tho I kinda feel bad cause swag didn’t really get to prove anyone wrong since he hasn’t played against teams like that. Maybe if he wasn’t banned he’d still be where he is today. Who knows..
2019-10-21 12:52
bottares or gratisfaction
2019-10-21 12:48
#44
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Romania Obuz8 
How is Gratisfaction overrated lol?Everyone is saying hes shit
2019-10-21 12:58
+1
2019-10-21 12:59
Haven't been on hltv that much recently tbh
2019-10-21 15:05
#95
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Australia WakeUpAussies 
gratis looks like a faggot so probably you're right +1
2019-10-22 12:13
#31
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Finland Sorsastajala 
ence
2019-10-21 12:48
#36
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Sweden LandoBaitor 
F
2019-10-21 12:51
Entire mouz and ence roster
2019-10-21 12:49
Bot_device
2019-10-21 12:51
#119
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China Rynaki 
+1
2019-10-22 16:05
#37
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Russia UNDERATE 
Scream
2019-10-21 12:51
+100
2019-10-21 12:58
Shroud Xantares Scream Tenz Swag Stewie2k
2019-10-21 12:54
MIBR_IS_OVERRATED
2019-10-21 12:55
#49
arT | 
Brazil Doug_CeL 
+1
2019-10-21 12:59
monkay
2019-10-22 11:37
#56
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Sweden LandoBaitor 
Legend
2019-10-21 13:06
+1
2019-10-21 12:58
#52
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North America Laasaagne 
sunny
2019-10-21 13:03
Ropz
2019-10-21 13:03
nobody ever says scream is good?
2019-10-21 13:04
#55
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Bulgaria HeavenRuck 
ropz
2019-10-21 13:05
#58
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Nepal ramann 
FER
2019-10-21 13:07
#59
Twistzz | 
Greece 1926 
screaM by a longshot. shroud is a beast on every game he plays,i can't call him overrated
2019-10-21 13:13
By far device. Letting dupreeh and Xyp9x do the hard work to get his stats and MVPs since forever. In any other team/constellation he would be still good but never like he is now.
2019-10-21 13:52
Yep I kind of agree.. Your role in the team makes your stats so all the star player or whatever discussion is bullshit to me cause device just has his mvps and good stats because of his roles.. Put him in xyp9x role and things will change not saying he's trash but he has the easiest role on the team
2019-10-21 14:02
#121
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Australia gEFFx 
flag checks out
2019-10-22 16:12
This is an argument which will never make any sense, my dear.
2019-10-22 16:29
Device literally plays the bitch role on t side, always going first and stuff.
2019-10-23 12:52
All NA players except Elige Oh wait elige from poland
2019-10-21 13:55
Onlinetares
2019-10-21 13:57
s1mple most overrated 2019 for sure by a mile, people always comparing S1mple and Zywoo #1 and #2, but forgetting electronic has had a much better year than s1mple.
2019-10-21 14:04
Why isn't he in the top 10 then?
2019-10-22 12:22
#68
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Germany sommares 
mp7 3k or 4k against navi
2019-10-21 14:05
Screamy, S0mple and NikOverratedAF
2019-10-21 14:08
youtube.com/watch?v=ZmMnDMZdgiM&t he deleted fnatic on a 2nd round forcebuy with a scout..
2019-10-21 14:08
#72
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Turkey Rjea 
Fallen
2019-10-21 14:13
#76
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Slovenia cahinho 
true man and remember most sick clips were from random pugs not FPL :) just an above average player but nothing really special
2019-10-21 15:08
Frozen
2019-10-21 15:10
#78
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Canada keroMTL 
Yes I remember a sick play from Shroud. C9 vs IBP on cache 15-14 C9 in eco and Shroud boosted on the bombsite A 3k cz easy Most overrated player : all swedish players except f0rest
2019-10-21 15:43
#81
ceh9 | 
World mukas17 
niko obviously
2019-10-22 11:31
#120
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China Rynaki 
niko is only bad because he's IGLing There are no good IGL players. None at all :^) Also because the Krieg and AUG still need to be nerfed, according to his Tweets.
2019-10-22 16:07
s1mple you will know if you ever talked to his fangays.
2019-10-22 11:41
#91
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Belgium BIG__DADDY 
+1
2019-10-22 11:49
tbf Navi on a whole is really overrated.
2019-10-22 12:34
#109
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Belgium BIG__DADDY 
+1
2019-10-22 13:39
rn? autimatic or aleksib of all time? f0rest or coldzera
2019-10-22 11:42
#98
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Australia WakeUpAussies 
well ive not seen people overrating f0rest that much and hes pretty much masterpiece
2019-10-22 12:20
oh he is always getting overrated, he doesnt have any "peak overrated" moments but he is just consistently getting overrated
2019-10-22 13:14
well he was atleast good before, not like shroud overrated yet in 2019 cause of streaming and do shit around
2019-10-22 15:58
F0rest fangays are the worst, every time the dude makes a decent play we see other pros do very often they start sucking his d and spamming "omg f0rest goat" threads and comments literally everywhere, so yeah he is overrated, doesn't mean he isn't good, just overrated/overhyped
2019-10-23 09:38
#93
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United States twistzzgod 
swag
2019-10-22 12:09
Shroud, ex6tenz, coldzera (maybe)
2019-10-22 12:12
Yes i do remember shrouds sick plays from officials
2019-10-22 12:18
Oskar xantares hen1 any ence player
2019-10-22 12:21
#102
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Korea SKT_T1_KAFER 
+1
2019-10-22 12:23
oskar? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA 0/8
2019-10-22 13:32
Lmao guy literally gets exit frags and anti eco kills does fuck all else its no surprise he's been benched so long
2019-10-22 13:54
#103
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Korea SKT_T1_KAFER 
S0mple any ENCE player
2019-10-22 12:24
#104
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Indonesia Exodd 
ScreaM and NikO, just a couple of stats & cool clips gatherer
2019-10-22 12:26
#110
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Norway Darkcone 
Zywho
2019-10-22 13:40
#113
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Brazil Gunzel 
s0mpel
2019-10-22 14:11
#125
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Yugoslavia Esketite 
Wtf mens)))
2019-10-23 12:50
device xypix, k0nfig kjearby.
2019-10-23 12:55
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