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EG just bad or
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Germany Germany_GOAT_nation 
Hello im a new hltv user and this is my first time watching pro cs (starlseries my first tournament). Is this EG team just trash or is NIP just very good? I'm wondering because i checked the ranking and see EG ranked 3 but they are trash? Can anyone help a rookie like me out?
2019-10-22 20:05
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#1
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
NiP over perform EG under perform = pretty even slightly favouring NiP
2019-10-22 20:06
should team NIP be ranked higher? they are rank 11 currently
2019-10-22 20:07
#12
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
No they are fine where they are.
2019-10-22 20:07
#15
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Sweden wyv0 
Obviously since rankings are based on results.
2019-10-22 20:09
#16
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
Ok? he asked m8
2019-10-22 20:09
#17
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Sweden wyv0 
Yes
2019-10-22 20:09
#54
JaCkz | 
Belgium Jasper55 
The real question is should EG be ranked lower, and the answer is definitely
2019-10-22 21:22
#63
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
If they bomb out of Starladder and dont make playoffs and Fnatic / Vitality at least gets to playoffs then absolutely. Im no EG fan, i dislike Tarik and Stans constant shouting (why i also dislike Stewie) but im trying to be as objective as possible
2019-10-22 21:47
#66
JaCkz | 
Belgium Jasper55 
They really deserved Top3 up until they won NY, after it was just very below average
2019-10-22 21:53
#72
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
Agreed, but ranking doesn't drop like that.
2019-10-22 22:10
I like Stan actually. He's been really quiet. Tarik shout mostly to hype the tilted inexperienced idiots cerq , brehze and ethan imo. As they get tilted way too easy.. lose 4 in a row , and here we go...Stan is really cold-blooded imo , tarik too but rest of the team tilt way too easy and that cost them the game , as the rest 3 are their star players. Props to NiP tho , they played really well , but EG clearly sucked.
2019-10-23 00:16
#126
shox | 
Korea Jew2K 
Tarik shouts to kinda lift his team's atmosphere, stew does it to annoy the other team, so i dont see why u would dislike tarik in that sense
2019-10-23 16:36
Yeah i completely understand why he does it and im sad that the team is in the position mentally where they require or get boosted by someone sounding like an ape 24/7
2019-10-23 16:57
They're ranked properly but they have potential enter top10
2019-10-22 20:12
#83
f0rest | 
China hzxhl16 
Ranking is based on the past few months’ result. Doesn’t tell you the real strength NOW. EG underperforms. Last month They won a tournament in convincing fashion against top2 in the world (though top2 Astralis at that time was underperforming.) NiP is getting stronger. It’s not a shame thing to lose to them. But NiP’s strength needs more test.... they were dominating the whole scene in 2013, and won a major in 2014. But they are not constantly good for now.
2019-10-22 22:33
SLIGHTLY? HAHAHA
2019-10-22 20:16
#42
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
Well i was correct in assuming it favoured NiP? Even delusional NiP fangays know this was a very big over performance
2019-10-22 20:51
Go cry with tarik.
2019-10-22 21:10
It just seems like you are overrating the NA team, possibly to make your scene seem a bit more competitive.
2019-10-22 21:27
#61
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
EG is a bit overrated agreed, but NiP (if this form shows their true form) is severely underrated which i think is unlikely. As i said, EG under perform and NiP heavily over perform
2019-10-22 21:45
#82
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Belgium Miiyata 
Imo eg just overperformed and got to rank 3 but theyre still better than nip for sure
2019-10-22 22:29
#107
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Denmark Notallama 
So.. is NiP underrated or did they overperform? Pick one. Such horrible excuses
2019-10-23 01:10
God why does no one on this site have a brain. I gave two options throughout the thread. If this is NiP's true form then they're underrated for sure If this, as i assume, a one good showing then they are still overrated. I believe they are overrated and it is extremely unlikely they are actually good.
2019-10-23 11:12
#121
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Denmark Notallama 
It seems like you're the one without a brain, you keep contradiction yourself in your desperate attempt at saving face on top of defending a huge loss to NiP.
2019-10-23 15:05
So stupid lmao
2019-10-23 16:21
Lmao look at the results outside of that match. EG is better than NiP, NiP just happened to have a good day today. Ofcourse a no flagger is talking about scenes tho
2019-10-22 21:48
So you are only allowed to talk if your cs scene is good? Well if so, you should take your EG and Liquid friends to the shame corner and be quiet.
2019-10-22 23:00
better than NiP & Fnatic lmaoo
2019-10-22 23:13
Ye, I just witness that xD
2019-10-22 23:16
#104
autist | 
Europe BH5K 
+1 lul
2019-10-23 00:22
Yes EG was also very strong at Malmo! How does flag matter in any way? Such an HLTV kid, need flag to make lame attacks otherwise brain stops working.
2019-10-22 23:59
Who has won a tournament more recently?
2019-10-23 01:19
Fnatic?
2019-10-23 07:28
big tournament more recently* Not to mention they needed both Astralis & EG to be jetlagged to even win that one lmaooo
2019-10-23 16:34
Are you pretending that ESL NY would be a bigger event than DH Masters Malmo? I hope not since that would be ridiculous.
2019-10-23 17:21
it is
2019-10-23 21:10
How? 16 team tournament vs 8 team tournament. 8 top 10 teams vs 4 top 10 teams. In no objective way is ESL NY a bigger event than DH Masters. You are just mega subjective since your team won it.
2019-10-23 23:32
can the same not be said for you
2019-10-24 00:51
No, since I actually present objective verifiable reasons for my opinion. Do you have a single actual reason why ESL NY would be a bigger event? And also fnatic isn’t my team.
2019-10-24 09:43
lmao there was a thread about 2 weeks ago that put them into tiers, DH are tier 3 out of big tournaments lmao. Majors being t1, Katowice, NY, & one other were T2 and literally everyone agreed. Plus which one affects ranking more? NY. Dumb fuck
2019-10-24 16:25
You do realize that DreamHack Masters and Dreamhack open are Two different things right? DH Masters has all the same top10 teams than NY had, plus 4 more. There is no logical way to consider a tournament with less teams and with less top 10 teams to be better. Also no one would put NY on the same level as Katowice and Cologne. They are clearly higher than small NY 8 team tournament. But please share the thread.
2019-10-24 19:04
lol retard spotted
2019-10-24 19:43
Are you stupid or something? You have yet to express a single reason for your opinion other than “some other dudes said so in a thread I will not link” and they most likely talked about DH Open. But I guess the name calling proves you have no arguments. Edit: if you mean the ESL Pro tour ranking news thread, they rank DH Masters and IEM on the same level. Again Master is not Open
2019-10-24 20:09
lmaooo so dumb ifb at this point
2019-10-24 20:47
So no arguments at all, pathetic really.
2019-10-24 23:06
holy shit dude ill make sure to have friends from every religion pray for you. This is getting sad
2019-10-24 23:06
Flag checks out. Religious and doesn’t know how to present arguments for opinion. So sad
2019-10-25 00:00
its ok they have finished their respective prayers. im sure one of the gods will respond
2019-10-25 05:59
Believing in fairytales. Oh you sad excuse for a human being
2019-10-25 08:08
Whats more sad, believing in something that makes you a better person or being an edgy little bitch who acts depressed all the time so they believe there "must be no god". gtfo lmaooo
2019-10-25 16:18
It’s clearly not making you a better person. And the edgy one here is definitely you, screaming both “dumb fuck” and “retard” totally unprovoked.
2019-10-25 20:05
>Pretty even >16-4 D2 16-4 Inf PICK ONE
2019-10-22 20:17
0.91 Thats the highest rated player on eg btw. Very slight win man.
2019-10-22 20:24
#30
shox | 
Europe Toxic91 
eg doesnt deserve #3 for one event, they've been trash ever since and were average before.
2019-10-22 20:29
#44
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
They had been getting top 4 finishes consistently before the major and came 3rd during the major. They then got a new roster and got a #1 win. The core has many months of consistent top 4 finishes with the major 3rd and NY 1st i see no reason they dont deserve #3 Also ranking is mostly based on last 3 months so major still counts (top 3 there and top 1 in NY)
2019-10-22 20:53
#49
shox | 
Europe Toxic91 
yeah and 15-16th in malmo and most likely something similar in the starseries too
2019-10-22 21:10
#62
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
If you truly value Malmo over a major result and then discount NY and all of the other top 4's then i feel bad for anyone that is around you
2019-10-22 21:46
+1 Shox fan what do you expect? Winning doesn't matter to the french, only highlights
2019-10-22 21:48
#69
shox | 
Europe Toxic91 
Seems like you dont have either of those though, 6 good months and you are back into the depths of na cs. lulquid and evil chockers lmao
2019-10-22 22:04
your scene is being carried by a fat manchild with a sniper who cant even win
2019-10-22 22:22
#77
shox | 
Europe Toxic91 
my scene? my scene is the most boring shit ever, the same team wins everytime.
2019-10-22 22:25
"wins"
2019-10-22 22:25
#79
shox | 
Europe Toxic91 
thought the message was clear enough...forgot the na brain lmao
2019-10-22 22:26
again...”wins” ?????
2019-10-22 23:12
#119
shox | 
Europe Toxic91 
ok i'll explain for your 5 yo na brain. The shox flair doesnt mean im french, it just means im a fan of shox. My scene is dominated by one team that wins almost everything and its boring as fuck because of that. That clear enough or do you need hand-drawn illustrations?
2019-10-23 09:08
again......."wins".....????
2019-10-23 16:34
#125
shox | 
Europe Toxic91 
yes wins, I suppose you know what that means
2019-10-23 16:36
i suppose you dont since you keep mentioning it with your "scene"
2019-10-23 16:36
#35
koosta | 
United States yghj 
2 maps 4-16, one map lost 14-16. this was not a close series, this was a stomp
2019-10-22 20:29
#43
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
#42
2019-10-22 20:51
#70
shox | 
Europe Toxic91 
just like EG overperformed like crazy in NY
2019-10-22 22:04
#71
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
Ok but rankings arents based on whether or not it was fluke or over performance. Its based on raw placings. Please stop replying you're using crazy amounts of retardation
2019-10-22 22:10
#73
shox | 
Europe Toxic91 
so you really believe right now EG and liquid deserve their place? they dont deserve top 10 losing to shark, renegades and nip.
2019-10-22 22:13
#74
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
No top 10 team hasn't recently lost to a stupid team
2019-10-22 22:15
#75
shox | 
Europe Toxic91 
didn't happen nearly has often though, EG after NY just went full retard mode, same with liquid after the major, both teams look like they changed the players with bootleg copies
2019-10-22 22:18
#80
koosta | 
United States yghj 
im not saying that NiP didnt overperformed or that EG didnt underperform, im merely saying that NiP was not SLIGHTLY better than EG in this series, they were WAY better. even on inferno it really could have been closed out by NiP in several spots, they jsut got unlucky or lost a clutch.
2019-10-22 22:26
#2
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Finland terquie 
nip are playing way out of their league, but eg also look like dog. Neither team is good vitality ez win tournament
2019-10-22 20:06
nip 2-0d vitality last week lmao
2019-10-22 20:06
+1
2019-10-22 20:27
#36
koosta | 
United States yghj 
+1
2019-10-22 20:29
#38
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France Vipair 
We’ll see if it happens again
2019-10-22 20:31
Both vitality and nip will get top 4 I believe 👌
2019-10-22 21:22
#117
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France Vipair 
They would deserve it too
2019-10-23 04:05
Just mad 'couse the only finnish team throughout the history that has been good finally revealed their true form xD
2019-10-22 23:21
#3
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United States KEKWQUID 
who cars
2019-10-22 20:06
both bad fluke teams
2019-10-22 20:06
#5
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Pakistan Ligm@ 
Can't win without crowd Kkk
2019-10-22 20:06
i dont know what that means :DDD
2019-10-22 20:07
EG won tier1 event in New York, Stomping best team in history but with help of the crowd if you're interested just watch EG vs Astralis ESL One New York 2019
2019-10-22 20:13
ty
2019-10-22 20:17
EU still mad about that?? Just let us have our 1 tournament mens
2019-10-22 20:19
Dear fellow dumb self-centred American, Europeans do not care at all about the ‘EU vs NA rivalry’ as it is simply made up by Americans like you to make themselves feel patriotic and that they are good at cs when they have a total of 1 major win in CSGO. Regards, kys x
2019-10-22 21:28
#68
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North America daesoulae 
are you disabled? europeans use the fact na has only won one major as their main point in the eu v na discussion. its one thing to not like america or its culture (as evident by your fake flagging) but the fact that youre talking from a high horse coupled with the fact that youre blatantly ignorant just makes you look like a jackass sincerely, eat my ass
2019-10-22 21:56
sadly for NA, it might also b their last tournament win of the year seeing how things are going for eg and liquid
2019-10-23 02:13
who cars
2019-10-23 19:56
#135
shox | 
France Malo0o 
u
2019-10-24 00:54
It just the jetlag fucking them once agian
2019-10-22 20:06
#7
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Sweden flippig 
eg trash yes
2019-10-22 20:06
he is ok but not the best ( jw the bestest)
2019-10-22 20:06
no just NiP beck
2019-10-22 20:08
#14
snatchie | 
Poland JKG 
New NIP is quite good + EG is overrated as fuck, not even TOP5 team
2019-10-22 20:08
#18
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Europe sn00b_d0gg 
dunno about NIP really, they dont look as shit as usual.. but EG are playing like cloud9 today
2019-10-22 20:10
EG seems to be good team but maybe new org new rules? Previously in NRG they was gods of groupstages and chokers in playoffs, Maybe now they're chokers in groupstages but gods of playoffs?
2019-10-22 20:14
#32
shox | 
Europe Toxic91 
they won esl one new york as EG but they've been utter trash ever since
2019-10-22 20:27
#22
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Denmark devnr1 
WHERE ARE YOU NOW TARIK??? CAN'T HEAR YOU????
2019-10-22 20:15
#28
f0rest | 
Sweden S3bluen 
NiP HOT AF
2019-10-22 20:24
EG only lost because NIP play different with new addition twist. Another month of tape and EG will destroy NIP every match
2019-10-22 20:26
#34
shox | 
Europe Toxic91 
in one month EG wont be top 10 if they keep playing like this dude, dont be delusional
2019-10-22 20:28
Ah yes NIP playing well because they have a new player and opposing teams cant prepare well means EG are going to fall out of top 10. Remember whe Renegades picked up LIaz and Grat?> They were undefeated for like 7 games then fell back down to earth after teams figured them out
2019-10-22 20:47
#47
shox | 
Europe Toxic91 
remember when they lost 2-0 to fucking renegades yes? and came 15-16th in malmo? yeah do you remember that? renegades has had the same players for a while now, if they keep playing like this they'll be lucky to stay in top10
2019-10-22 21:09
outlier
2019-10-22 21:21
#37
koosta | 
United States yghj 
small brain, expected from fan of pedo
2019-10-22 20:30
pedos are attracted to children before puberty dumbass A 14yo girl is far from a "small child"
2019-10-22 20:46
#81
koosta | 
United States yghj 
hebiophile. doesnt make it wrong to harrass a child. retard
2019-10-22 22:27
Ya bloom was a dumbass. You never make things sexual until you have proof you aren't being catfished/setup. Rookie mistake
2019-10-22 22:38
#106
koosta | 
United States yghj 
you are ugly faggot mens
2019-10-23 01:08
stop projecting
2019-10-23 01:41
#111
koosta | 
United States yghj 
youre defending a child harrasser
2019-10-23 02:00
it was actually a dude pretending to be a child but okay
2019-10-23 02:04
#113
koosta | 
United States yghj 
doesnt matter if it was a girl, a man or 500 men he believed he was talking to a 15 year old girl and harassed her. disgusting
2019-10-23 02:06
blooms got a nice dick though dont lie
2019-10-23 02:07
#115
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Canada thelegend27 
#freebloominator #bloominatordidnothingwrong
2019-10-23 02:09
I dont know if its the only reason they lost, but NIP definitely showed a lot of different rounds than they have in the past, and different even than the maps' current tournament meta. Well played to nip, and (lul) a welcome to OP new user
2019-10-22 20:33
8/8 LMAO
2019-10-22 20:55
#46
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Europe Markss 
Honestly don't know what happens with EG
2019-10-22 20:57
#50
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Brazil hrp_ 
ok i'll tell somethings you need to know: eg is trash yes mibr is going to be out of the top 30 soon thats all.
2019-10-22 21:13
+1
2019-10-22 21:26
#51
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Russia xtkjdtr01 
Everyone felt for this Sad
2019-10-22 21:19
xD
2019-10-22 21:22
Sad? For an NA team with jerk Tarik? Nice joke!
2019-10-22 21:33
No, everyone's falling for the bait
2019-10-22 23:29
im not baiting wtf
2019-10-22 23:46
nt MIBR_IS_OVERRATED
2019-10-22 23:52
nt MIBR_IS_OVERRATED
2019-10-23 00:00
Should I change my flag? Everybody says I'm this user just because of my Swiss flag
2019-10-23 00:02
You might get banned if you keep that swiss flag :D
2019-10-23 00:14
Hello! Sorry to bother you all, but I’m new to the CS:GO competitive scene. I’m just very curious why it seems there’s nothing that could challenge the Finnish esports organization that goes by the name “ENCE Esports”? Everything just seems to be so easy for them!
2019-10-22 21:24
#67
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Germany ToiletShitter 
Fluke Geniuses
2019-10-22 21:54
#84
f0rest | 
China hzxhl16 
And the site is very toxic. Don’t let your judgement be led by others..,, go watch more matches, both historical matches and future. Have your own idea..... Remember hltv is a place of hate and toxic stuff,,
2019-10-22 22:34
we also have a lot of love on hltv! love for hate and toxic stuff
2019-10-22 22:53
#89
f0rest | 
China hzxhl16 
Brutal Savage Rekt
2019-10-22 23:12
We're in a no-era phase right now where there's a wide range of high skill so preparation and "mental health within team" is everything so it can vary a lot from one tournament to another like G2's and NIP's overperformance here and Fnatic's underperformance here after DH Malmö etc
2019-10-22 23:22
"Fnatic's underperformance after DH Malmö" What???? xD They have played 4 games after DH malmö, they won 2, lost to renegades and they had two rly close 16-14 games against Astralis. I would not call that underperformance when they haven't had time to train or do anything else than travel and play with a new roster.
2019-10-22 23:27
Hltv ranking 2019 lul
2019-10-23 00:18
#105
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Dominican Republic SantoDomingo 
Eg is just unlucky
2019-10-23 00:24
No, North American counter strike is usually this horrible.
2019-10-23 01:13
Sure
2019-10-23 16:38
#136
Finland em8 
not as clever bait as youre thinking
2019-10-24 00:57
#138
CeRq | 
Italy rad0r 
0/8 bait Btw guys I think nip are playing good, no doubt but is this gonna last? I mean nip already won against vitality and then lost miserably against others lower teams. Idk, maybe the match against g2 is gonna settle their attitude and confidence or make em doubt about everything. U know what, I guess in this period anyone can beat anyone. Like mousesports overthinking the loss. I mean if u lose 16 14 there is nothing bad just unlucko IMO
2019-10-24 09:48
#139
kennyS | 
Croatia franX^ 
Jetlag ofc
2019-10-24 09:57
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