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Neo GOAT explanation
JaCkz | 
Ethiopia FanatykTwojegoStarego 
on NEO side: 1. Player of The Decade (2010) 2. 8 WC/Major titles won, with much lower teammates than f0rest had (f0rest 4 WC/Major titles) 3. Most crucial moments in their careers - NEO vs f0rest in WC/Major Grand Finals: they face each other 4 times, NEO won 75% (3 times) f0rest 25% (1 time) 4. NEO was The Best in CS 1.6 , in CS GO - , f0rest in CS 1.6 - , CS GO - on f0rest side: 1. f0rest was 4x in TOP 20 Players of the Year (CS GO) NEO was 1x in TOP 20 Players of the Year (CS GO) 2. ?? neutral: 1. f0rest is better in CS GO (firepower) but NEO role in CS GO is IGL, so we can't compare players with other roles 2. NEO and f0rest achievements only in CS GO - both won 1 Major
2019-10-22 20:23
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NEO GOAT 1.6 F0REST GOAT OVERALL CS
2019-10-22 20:25
f0rest wasn't even the best in CS 1.6 also in CS GO so how he can be a GOAT? Answer me
2019-10-23 06:22
#3
gAuLeS | 
Liechtenstein KotoPRO 
He is goat because he is the only player that kept at top tier 1 level for the longest time by far.
2019-10-23 06:30
but NEO is not star player anymore (in CS GO, he was only in CS 1.6) he is IGL in CS GO, so how can u judge him with firepower standards?? also if f0rest is that great in CS GO why he reach same shit as NEO in CS GO (both won just 1 Major here) ? look at facts he can't carry no more, he's amazing like u said becouse he is 31 and is still on good pro lvl, but he's no longer great like he was at his prime time (in CS 1.6 where he carried his team to win 3 WC)
2019-10-23 06:47
f0rest is the greatest player of all time, not the best- that would probably be s1mple. Neo is neither. Although he certainly got a case for both best and greatest 1.6 player, I would personally rank f0rest ahead for 1.6 aswell but that might be bias.
2019-10-23 08:10
#164
fer | 
World loopoos 
simples lol 0 major. cs is a team game.
2019-10-25 18:04
team achievements like a proof of best player LMAO
2019-10-26 22:21
Neo wasn't star player anymore bcs HE SUCKED. He wasn't igl from the start so stop using it as an excuse. Overall f0rest is much better
2019-10-23 08:16
comparing IGL to Star player nice logic, it's not excuse overall f0rest is lower 8 WC/Majors > 4WC/Majors 3 WC/Major Grand Finals > 1 WC/Major Grand Final (against each other) Best in 1.6 > Best in 1.6 - , Best in CS GO -
2019-10-23 08:21
Once again : neo WASN'T igl from beginning. He took that role and more supportive role bcs HE SUCKED. You are clearly biased AF so I will not read more your posts. F0rest >>>> neo. Bye
2019-10-23 08:23
ok show prove then, all u just writed is shit without any prove "f0rest >>>> neo" nice logic
2019-10-23 08:25
#34
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Sweden Kasidro 
No he states that the reason that neo is not a star is not that he is an IGL, he is an IGL cause he is not good enough to be a star. So f0rest > neo in csgo without a doubt as he is still capable of being a star. And it's not like neo has been a very good IGL...
2019-10-23 08:46
ok i mentioned f0rest is better in CS go in proves (on f0rest side: 1.) 4x TOP20 > 1x TOP20 (that obviously means he is better in GO) but what he have from it? 1 Major in GO like NEO, f0rest is still good pro player but not enough to carry he's team to win another Major
2019-10-23 08:58
I like how you leave out GO major finals but not 1.6 finals
2019-10-24 07:03
he wrote the reason, you are too dumb to get it even if he writes it few times lol
2019-10-25 16:54
#204
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United States @FyreCS 
+10000 LUL
2019-10-26 05:06
205#
2019-10-26 11:40
No, I skipped what he wrote cuz it literally change nothing, u didn't notice it cuz u are too dumb lol Tell me what it change then?? It still proves only f0rest is better than NEO in CS GO what i already mentioned.
2019-10-26 11:39
#63
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Reunion kolgab 
so if u are some avarage top50 player for 10year you are candidate for goat aswell?? both of them not even close to top40 in csgo all time... anyway its like u talk about futsal and football or basketball and streetball in the same time... 1.6 and csgo and cs:s 2 different game with different bests
2019-10-23 10:49
#64
gAuLeS | 
Liechtenstein KotoPRO 
he was competing for the best spot in the top tier. And yes , if u get into hltv top 20 for 7-8 years straight being top 2 twice (and considered by most as the second best player to ever touch cs 1.6) , u'll be fighting for the goat spot. NEO is the best cs 1.6 player and he was very good in cs :go, but f0rest is the only old pro keeping the level and will be top 10 this year again for sure.
2019-10-23 10:49
If forest is goat of cs, then device is in cs:go It matters how you weight consistency, achievements and skill. Skillwise probably cold or s1mple Rest is on device side
2019-10-23 13:28
#84
gAuLeS | 
Liechtenstein KotoPRO 
yes device is prob the most consistent player in cs go history for sure
2019-10-23 18:02
Never the best on 1.6 and never the best in CSGO, to be the best you have to atleast be the best in your era.
2019-10-24 13:33
mister fanatyk u are literally trash person with 0 knowledge
2019-10-23 08:45
#61
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
fnatic***
2019-10-23 10:35
As I know he was the best aimer in 1.6
2019-10-24 13:33
you are mine fanatyk? nice
2019-10-25 19:12
He was the second best in 1.6 history and he was almost the best in CSGO history too. No other player comes close. He's been performing at a tier 1 level for 15 years, which is ridicolous. No one comes close.
2019-10-26 17:44
#222
fnx | 
Portugal lovessd 
man for me neo was the 1.6 goat by far but f0rest wasn't far from him & look at his level on cs go whereas neo never played well on cs go neo 1 goat 1.6 + 0 goat cs go = 1 goat overall f0rest 0.99 goat 1.6 + 1 goat cs go = 1.99 goat overall f0rest ez win cs goat overall
2019-10-26 22:24
1.6 GOAT = NEO CS GO GOAT = Dev1ce (for now) u rly think f0rest is goat of CS GO??
2019-10-26 22:27
#224
fnx | 
Portugal lovessd 
between neo & f0rest , yes f0rest is a goat on cs go & neo one of biggest noobs , even when VP won a major device sucks btw he isn't cs go goat , more s1mple or zywoo so you can't tell that neo is cs overall goat when he had such a bad skill on cs go , i never understood & was really disappointed about neo on cs go
2019-10-26 22:31
"neo one of biggest noobs" "device sucks btw he isn't cs go goat , more s1mple or zywoo" u are like 14-17 yrs old probably
2019-10-26 22:36
#226
fnx | 
Portugal lovessd 
& u must be really dumb to think that neo is cs overall goat when he is really bad on cs go
2019-10-27 04:16
"u must be really dumb to think that neo is cs overall goat" i must be really dumb like more CS pro players / experts who think like me NEO > f0rest right? Ok then
2019-10-27 10:03
#9
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India Noobdian 
This.
2019-10-23 07:57
#7
2019-10-23 08:02
#3
2019-10-23 08:12
you can read?? #7 is an answer to #3
2019-10-23 08:14
its ur opinion... not from everyone forest in cs1.6 top3 player .... forest in csgo earyl top3 at all top 10 player neo in cs 1.6 top3 player... neo in csgo maybe top 50-100 player
2019-10-23 08:25
+1
2019-10-23 08:05
#4
Frankie | 
Italy J1reN 
Ok he is legend But TL;DR
2019-10-23 06:33
tl;dr name checks out tho
2019-10-23 06:37
#6
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Albania Number1awper 
f0rest 5 major NEO 9 major Device 4 major
2019-10-23 06:39
#8
Slovakia pgb1 
Neo is shit. Most overrated player in 1.6 carried by TaZra
2019-10-23 07:53
U drunk mate
2019-10-23 10:53
#163
TaZ | 
Poland Czeczen 
tazGOD best of all time
2019-10-25 18:03
Yep retards overrate players like neo gtr simple coldzera that have huge raiting due to lurking or baiting. Neo bot
2019-10-25 19:03
#215
TaZ | 
Poland Czeczen 
tazinho best of best
2019-10-26 22:12
You can put f0rest in any team and he will make a difference, did FaZe get better with Neo? The answer is no.
2019-10-23 08:01
who knows, he played only in NIP in CS go and in 1.6 f0rest was in prime form. Did FaZe get better now when Neo left? The answer is no (21 in rank, even lower)
2019-10-23 08:08
#49
rain | 
Poland Karmela 
How do you know f0rest could fit in ANY team and make it better if he literally only played in one.
2019-10-23 09:31
Because F0rest is just a naturally gifted star player. His individual skill is not measured by the people he plays with. Hence individual skill. He can play like a God or he can play terrible. Neither are due to what his team is doing, because if he isn't firing 90% NIP are losing.
2019-10-23 10:55
f0rest has been a top tier player since 2005
2019-10-23 08:04
but never was the best, not in CS 1.6 (NEO 7 WC , f0rest with better teammates 3 WC) neither in CS GO
2019-10-23 08:13
#14
Slovakia pgb1 
Bot of 21st century
2019-10-23 08:06
CSGO nerfed neo by removing movement and other things, he was the best in 1.6 because of movement alone. RIP to the god.
2019-10-23 08:13
+1 his movement was insane
2019-10-23 10:54
#20
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Other VladimirLucas 
neo is better than f0rest because he can play all rules f0rest is just a fragger
2019-10-23 08:14
#23
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Norway Nikki_96 
but theres one big difference.. f0rest is 31 and plays for tier 1 team to this day and might play for another year or two or generaly depends when he retires...neo most likely will never touch tier 1 team ever again and even in forest age he wouldnt frag as much
2019-10-23 08:18
ok but what's the point? f0rest also isn't in his prime anymore (fact) , also can't carry he's team anymore to reach something (fact)
2019-10-23 08:32
#40
Estonia LKWD 
You might wanna look at yesterdays matches. Over 2 BO3-s f0rest was the highest performing player. Yes he didnt carry each map but was just godly against Furia on train and didnt let EG on the server on DD2. Stating that he can't carry or reach something as a fact is just plain stupid. It may be your opinion and you are fully entitled to it but stating that as a fact is just impossible. Neo in CSGO hasnt always been the IGL - Taz was the IGL for the longest in VP and even Snax was the IGL for some time and Neo didnt show anything special even then. Yes he had some great games but nothing close to the level of top10 players. f0rest is considered by most people the GOAT of CS because he has managed to keep his form either on top or on par with the top10 top20 of CS1.6 and CS:GO players for his whole career.
2019-10-23 08:58
you still didn't writed something new bro.. i showed very big arguments and easly explained why NEO is GOAT and 1 and only thing that f0rest have on his side (4x TOP20 > 1x TOP20 - better in CS GO) also notice they archieve same only 1 Major in GO "Stating that he can't carry or reach something as a fact is just plain stupid. It may be your opinion and you are fully entitled to it but stating that as a fact is just impossible." - u are right here no one knows what future will bring
2019-10-23 09:07
0/8
2019-10-25 18:34
Neo its like Sidney Crosby and f0rest is Wayne fucking Gretzky of Counter-Strike
2019-10-23 09:09
f0rest still fairly often is the top rated of NiP, so the second part isn't a fact. The only reason why NiP was rash for the past year or so was because GTR was playing very poorly.
2019-10-23 09:06
so basically u think f0rest wasn't able to carry his team to reach something big becouse of get_right recently form? ok, time will tell
2019-10-23 09:18
f0rest <3
2019-10-23 10:06
Nip is not a tier1 team
2019-10-23 10:13
funny but that's true, recently isn't
2019-10-23 10:21
#72
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Norway Nikki_96 
it goes down to opinion
2019-10-23 11:14
Still neo is older than forest
2019-10-25 18:55
Neo isnt IGL
2019-10-23 08:25
#30
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Russia UNDERATE 
Finally someone explained it well to all f0rest fans Great job mate
2019-10-23 08:33
spasibo bratan :)
2019-10-23 08:43
#62
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Russia UNDERATE 
so? f0rest is a better rifler rn, that's it but NEO was the best player in cs 1.6
2019-10-23 10:44
lol bro ye he have better rating in GO cuz like i said and anyone know it f0rest was better than NEO in CS GO, but thats only one notable argument, while NEO have 4 Strong arguments...
2019-10-23 10:51
#31
Xyp9x | 
Netherlands arTvamp 
GOAT is a goat. like a sheep. bbbeeebbbbeeeeeeeeeee
2019-10-23 08:35
#37
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Poland PanArek 
+1
2019-10-23 08:58
f0rest is much better in csgo so he is goat overall
2019-10-23 08:48
#88
Xyp9x | 
Netherlands arTvamp 
yes he has more Hair! UBER GOAT
2019-10-24 05:03
??? Reply needs to have actual content
2019-10-24 08:29
#213
Xyp9x | 
Netherlands arTvamp 
His hair is actual content.
2019-10-26 20:34
NEO was better in 1.6 = f0rest was better in CS GO - so it's 1-1 here NEO vs f0rest achievements only in CS GO - both won only 1 Major -> so it's 1-1 here NEO arguments which proves he is GOAT in points: 1. Player of a decade (2010) 2. he won 8 WC/Majors with lower teammates than f0rest had (f0rest with better teammates won only 4 WC/Majors) 3. NEO vs f0rest in WC/Major Grand Finals: they face each other 4 times, NEO won 75% (3 times) f0rest 25% (1 time) f0rest arguments which proves he is GOAT in points: 1. ?? I don't know even 1 notable argument for f0rest, if u know then write what it is And remember i already mentioned that f0rest is playing better in CS GO.
2019-10-24 12:01
yeah neo is goat of 1.6 but f0rest is still on top level and achieved way more in csgo
2019-10-24 12:30
no he doesn't achieve more in cs go, if he does then tell me what exactly, i'm courious what u will answer? only Major counts in achievements in CS GO and he won just 1 Major there like NEO, what only proves that he can't carry his team to reach something in this version of cs, cuz he isn't in his prime form anymore, he was in 1.6 for sure becouse he was able to carry his team to win 3 World Championships. But he is still in good form in CS GO i'm not denying it, and is better than NEO in CS GO ofc
2019-10-24 13:01
there are big events top 20
2019-10-24 13:03
#108
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Estonia Mrkruvi 
"NEO vs f0rest achievements only in CS GO - both won only 1 Major -> so it's 1-1 here" hold the fuck up. if you are so keen on achievements then why not consider that f0rest has 23 tournament wins in CSGO and NEO has 12.. also f0rest has 5 major final appearances and Neo has 2. now 1.6 yes, Neo has more WC/majors but overall tournament wins? 26 first place finishes (not counting qualifiers, show matches and those weekly/monthly thingys) while f0rest has 35. And yes, Neo was a little bit more skilled (or just better) than f0rest in 1.6 but the gap between them was not big at all. Now dont get me wrong. I like and respect both f0rest and Neo, and would never bash on them but youre just trying to make f0rest look so much worse is just wrong.
2019-10-24 13:30
"if you are so keen on achievements then why not consider that f0rest has 23 tournament wins in CSGO and NEO has 12.. also f0rest has 5 major final appearances and Neo has 2." - first of all 2nd or 3rd place isn't that big archievement, becouse u are winning nothing when you lose, is that right? when u finish on higher place in Major/t1 tournament u get only more money, (on Major also u can "win" Legend status) only winner wins trophy and succed. f0rest was always choking in WC/Major finals, NEO had less occasions than him (was 1 time less in Final) and still Double f0rest succes in WC/Majors look at difference: NEO in Grand Finals WC/Major 11 - won 8 of them f0rest in Grand Finals WC/Major 12 - won.. 4 of them what means f0rest have much more 2nd places ye, cuz he was losing, not winning (like NEO) but it also nicely explaining why he's "only" 2nd greatest player of all time in cs history, right behind neo back - NEO was just more effective player. and what u will mention now 3rd places? xd Overall tournaments win is useless comparison if u are talking about greatest players, only t1 tournament wins comparison would be nice, idk how much exactly they both win, i need to check it by myself but i'm pretty sure f0rest won atleast few more, but mention it as one, like 1.6+go all t1 tournaments, no need to split also when u are talking about WC+Majors cuz we are talking overall their careers, f0rest fans often trying to split achievements becouse it can only help f0rest, but when we are talking about OVERALL their careers we can't split achievements, it's nonsense cuz we are not talking about their careers in cs 1.6 only or cs go only. It's also nonsense becouse all ppl knows (people who aren't braindead) in cs 1.6 NEO was TOP1 and f0rest was TOP2 and in CS GO f0rest is better than NEO but if you compare them Overall it's NEO > f0rest "Now dont get me wrong. I like both f0rest and Neo, and would never bash on them but you just trying to make f0rest look so much worse is just wrong." - it only looks like it, becouse i'm comparing good simple facts, ask every f0rest fanboy why he thinks that f0rest is better than NEO, they will always keep telling u about 1 and only 1 thing (i'll write in shortcut) - becouse f0rest plays better in CS GO, while i can easly show that NEO have few more arguments, and i showed them in 4 strong points up there. Also i think like i writed overall t1 tournaments f0rest will have more, ye but notice the difference: f0rest won more t1 tournaments than NEO NEO DOUBLE WC/Major f0rest Succes.
2019-10-24 17:41
Some will say f0rest was better in 1.6. Even pro players from 1.6 would say f0rest. They were so close in skill its hard to decide. I was around during their 1.6 times and I think both were great. Neo had more trophies but skillwise its hard to decide tbh.
2019-10-23 08:55
ye comparing player who won 7 WC with much lower teammates to player who won 3 WC with better teammates (remember both of them was in their prime in 1.6)
2019-10-23 09:23
Trophies are one thing my friend skill another. S1mple how many majors? None. In pure aim f0rest outaimed neo in 1.6 also but they were close in skill overall. I watched them alot during 1.6. I respect both its hard to decide tbh.
2019-10-23 09:38
#111
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Estonia Mrkruvi 
+111
2019-10-24 13:30
They were so close, and still, Neo won two times the number of Majors that f0rest did (6-3), while having a less skilled lineup and having to stick with it because he's not from Sweden where he can just pick up more crazy talented guys every year. That's the main point
2019-10-24 12:29
Yeah no doubt Neo achieved more in 1.6 I dont question that at all but in terms of skill its hard. I think f0rest had better aim and neo was known for his incredible movement that was key in 1.6. Both were insane.
2019-10-24 13:28
Retard? There were no majors and forest won like 4x more tournaments than bot neo
2019-10-25 19:04
I know there were no majors but still the bigger tournaments in 1.6. I think f0rest is goat of cs but neo in 1.6 was up there with the best ever no doubt about it.
2019-10-25 19:11
#39
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Poland PanArek 
Good compare, FanatykTwojegoStarego
2019-10-23 08:58
it's just simple facts that f0rest fans can't stand NEO >>>>> f0rest
2019-10-23 09:20
#48
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Poland PanArek 
+10
2019-10-23 09:24
The fact that Neo has won more titles is irrelevant for today when you say which player is the best, s1mple is one in 99% of all lists even if dev1ce wins more titles. With your reasoning, was Devilwalk a better player than s1mple because he has won 1 major However, Counter-Strike 1.6 can be debated as to who was really the best. I would say that markeloff, f0rest, neo and GeT_RiGhT were all the best for sometime between 2005-2011 I would say without a doubt that f0rest is, over all generations of Counter-Strike, the best player who ever touched the game. Greatest of all time. hltv.org/stats/players/compare/29/f0rest..
2019-10-23 09:32
#114
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Estonia Mrkruvi 
+1
2019-10-24 13:34
Still 4 majors more with worse teammates
2019-10-25 19:00
No majors. They won like 1 tournament per year and forest like 5 az least. Neo bot
2019-10-25 19:05
Xaxaxa forest carried by get right
2019-10-25 19:44
They were no majors but exactly "World Championships" so what u think Majors in CS GO are?? Something more? only prizepool is bigger, but how there can be something bigger in Sport/Esport than WC? World Championships = Majors
2019-10-26 17:48
I think faze would have probably been better just keeping NEO instead of getting broky.. then niko wouldn't need to IGL and NEO was getting better and was having more impact. Sure there are better fraggers but at least faze could have built up some consistency
2019-10-23 10:05
FaZe have to disband.
2019-10-23 10:09
lol why exactly because they just lost to the best team in the world? at least they beat VP it aint much but they won. Just because they are n'ot a top 10 team anymore doesn't mean they need to disband just because you say so.
2019-10-24 02:08
#56
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North America davidbowie22 
Neo best in 1.6 mediocer in csgo F0rest 2nd best in 1.6 was actually good in csgo F0rest goat smh
2019-10-23 10:17
i mentioned it and explained NEO Player of a decade 8 > 4 WC/Majors 3 > 1 face to face in WC/Major Grand Finals 1 - 1 Majors (same reachings in CS GO) but but but f0rest is still performing well unlike NEO so he's a GOAT ye? xDDDD
2019-10-23 10:33
The fact that Neo has won more titles is irrelevant for today when you say which player is the best, s1mple is one in 99% of all lists even if dev1ce wins more titles. With your reasoning, was Devilwalk a better player than s1mple because he has won 1 major However, Counter-Strike 1.6 can be debated as to who was really the best. I would say that markeloff, f0rest, neo and GeT_RiGhT were all the best for sometime between 2005-2011 I would say without a doubt that f0rest is, over all generations of Counter-Strike, the best player who ever touched the game. Greatest of all time. hltv.org/stats/players/compare/29/f0rest..
2019-10-23 11:15
The thing you guys can't understand is that Neo was both. He carried a bunch of non-top tier guys like s1mple is doing, WHILE BEATING the superteams of f0rest + GeT_RiGhT or Na'Vi. Instead of losing and having the "oh but it's a team game, he's still playing amazing". Your guy had crazy teammates and won half the Majors. But I get it, you're Swedish, support your guys.
2019-10-24 12:33
+11
2019-10-24 18:12
#58
takej | 
Japan Inliving 
s1mple didn't win any major, but everyone agreed he's csgod atm. trophy doesn't mean really much if you compare individual, because in the end CS is team based game.
2019-10-23 10:27
Looking at your answer neo had a way worse team than forest back then and he pretty much carried them by himself to those trophies so yeah its a team game but he is the better zywoo of 1.6 movement changes in csgo fucked him up lmao he had insane movement but everything got changed unluk00
2019-10-23 10:59
#76
takej | 
Japan Inliving 
No doubt Neo is fucking beast in 1.6, Neo and f0rest is like Zywoo and S1mple. i don't say Neo is not GOAT, he is. the problem is people just look Neo from recent performance and didn't look back. In CSGO Neo got outshined by the other VP player. he's unluck0 man.
2019-10-23 11:44
That's right, you could man handle in 1.6 compared to GO.
2019-10-23 11:46
That's my point, Neo was the s1mple that made no excuses, he just put the team on his back and beat the superteams (Fnatic 2009, Na'Vi, late SK) in most finals he played. Neo was the best pistol and rifler player in 1.6, while having the best movement and map awareness, and he was able to AWP. Played T-side as noone has ever done.
2019-10-24 12:40
#60
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Poland morosek 
tldr: OP is polish.
2019-10-23 10:34
#66
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
s1mple goat
2019-10-23 10:51
#71
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Slovakia ypsylonnn 
Overall forest is better, since he was able to keep him form for 15years consistently Neo has never really been exceptionaly good in csgo but was better in cs 1.6 for sure
2019-10-23 11:01
So if we are going by HLTV facts and logic that you have provided by stating all of the achivements: hltv.org/news/5888/top-20-players-of-201.. hltv.org/news/7984/top-20-players-of-201.. hltv.org/news/11895/top-20-players-of-20.. hltv.org/news/13903/top-20-players-of-20.. hltv.org/news/16700/top-20-players-of-20.. hltv.org/news/19558/top-20-players-of-20.. hltv.org/news/22348/top-20-players-of-20.. hltv.org/news/25735/top-20-players-of-20.. As you can see they both fell off in the last two years, so none of them make the top 20. Apart from that every list in which both are present f0rest is on a better ranking than neo. Again this according to HLTV. If you want to talk about the better player in movement and all, then its neo. If you wanna talk about aim and fragging, then its f0rest. Also the logic that neo can play any role and can IGL does not mean that he excels in each of those roles. Neo only shifted to IGL as VP was not doing very well and because he did not have the skill set to be a star player anymore, which is the reason Snax and byali were added. As a last point i would like to add my own opinion so it could come off as a bit biased, I would rather pick a player who can constantly compete at a high level and has a shot of being one of the very best players of all time for 10+ years over someone who can be the best for 2-3 years and then go dormant. Anyways i still regard both of them to legends in their own regards. Cheers!
2019-10-23 11:20
completly useless post u posted links with form what proves only 1 thing i already mentioned (f0rest is better in cs go than NEO - top20 4x > top20 1x) also only in cs 1.6 better was NEO this is another fact, why u posting something useless? im waiting for strong proves, if you can read then read my post up there - 4 points have NEO, f0rest have 1 point, if u have other 1 big fact (other than this 1 what already everyone know: f0rest is better than NEO in CS GO) then i would like to see this
2019-10-23 11:49
Then there is no point in arguing to you my dude. If you create a forum thread then you should be open up for a debate. Turning a blind eye to everything that staggers you even a bit does not solve anything. Anyways to each its own.
2019-10-23 12:02
"Turning a blind eye to everything that staggers you even a bit does not solve anything" ok so answer me, what's the thing that staggers me in ur post? What u writed irritated me cuz u writed long post about basically nothing new and u can't notice it, ur post only prove this f0rest is better in cs go what's right "If you wanna talk about aim and fragging, then its f0rest." - in cs 1.6 ofc no, in cs GO ofc yes and there's obvious reasons: (cs 1.6) NEO 7 WC with much lower teammates > f0rest 3 WC with much better teammates (cs GO) f0rest 4x TOP20 > NEO 1x TOP20 (both won 1 Major) "Neo only shifted to IGL as VP was not doing very well and because he did not have the skill set to be a star player anymore" - who cares? even if yes and u wanna compare Star player to IGL NEO role, ok and what now? that's still only proves f0rest was better than NEO in CS GO what i already mentioned bro......
2019-10-23 13:35
holy shit man. He was never the main igl, he became one due to the drop of his skill level Also neo better than f0rest in 1.6 aiming?? Really? Got nothing to say if that is indeed what you think Also winning major and titles does not determine the raw skill of a player. You know what, nvm lol. You win. Have a good day
2019-10-23 15:46
and u think f0rest 1.6 > NEO 1.6 Really? Got nothing to say if that is indeed what you think - same thing i can write, how u can compare NEO 7 WC wins with much lower teammates to f0rest 3 WC wins with much better teammates -> how it looks? at least odd, cuz obiously by this record u can see NEO was carrying his team much more than f0rest in 1.6 so idk why u even wanna discuss about it lol to be fair i think 2nd point for f0rest have to be: Better than NEO overall in CS GO but then it's still 4-2 for NEO and i don't have more ideas myself what can be 3rd point for f0rest 1. f0rest TOP20 x4 > NEO TOP20 x1 (cs go) 2. f0rest was/is Better than NEO in cs go
2019-10-23 17:21
None if this has anything to do with goats
2019-10-23 11:22
#86
ScreaM | 
Morocco Marock 
none of them is goat especially the way they've been playing in the last 3 years
2019-10-24 02:13
+1 he could not easily replace a player when he wanted , forest could sweden had a really good(maybe the best)cs scene poland never had a scene beside the Golden five / later VP
2019-10-24 02:15
+1 swedish scene is definitely the best overall, have the most WC/Major titles not without reason
2019-10-24 06:13
#90
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China SwooksarV2 
NT. Bntet goat
2019-10-24 06:13
#92
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Europe thaifinnen 
1.6 #1 Neo #2 F0rest CS:S #1 Shox #2 Rpk CS:GO #1 Coldzera #S1mple
2019-10-24 07:17
These naive kids will never understand, you just have to let them live their dreams. Neo is EASILY the GOAT of counter-strike. Neo was with the same lineup for about 10 years, having only Taz as a top tier teammate, not being able to replace the others because of the lack of talent in the polish scene, and he still doubled the success of f0rest. f0rest has half the number of Majors and only won 1 without being on a "super-team", he needed GeT_RiGhT to be the best player on the last 3. For the newest of fags, s1mple is not even in the conversation, deal with it.
2019-10-24 12:13
Not to mention that f0rest made the move to his arch-rival so he could win some tournaments. While Neo and his team kept losing sponsorships over and over again and won a Major without having a team/brand, just off of their will to keep going.
2019-10-24 12:18
+1
2019-10-24 13:44
Did neo win tournaments every year for 13 years straight?
2019-10-24 12:42
haha i see u don't have arguments so u start writing about completly useless things, He won 8 WC/Majors who cares about tier 5 tournaments, only mad f0rest fans when they don't have any logical arguments, also ur f0rest will never be Player of a Decade becouse he's no longer in his prime, he was when NEO was in his prime so NEO won it, just deal with that.
2019-10-24 13:11
tier5? Did you just said fucking tier5? TIER5? Go to bed because your talking like you are wearing your night cap. omfg this guy said tier5.. Forest won t1 tournaments for 13 years straight. There is no player alive that has won as many tournaments as forest has. Not even fucking close.
2019-10-24 13:30
yes cuz i'm tired so what? chill out first of all WC/Major > any other cs tournament so no need to mention even t1 tournaments, while NEO double f0rest succes in most important tournaments, that's big and enough difference and i see u don't know it probably so i will write it - NEO also win much t1 tournaments in cs 1.6 and go.
2019-10-24 14:07
If you have to lie to win an argument why should i take you seriously? Never said neo hasnt won many t1 tournaments, but forest has won ALOT more.
2019-10-24 14:14
it wasn't lie I was speaking figuratively, if i would knew u will not understand it i would write t1 ok but u can't notice the difference f0rest won more t1 tournaments than NEO NEO DOUBLE f0rest WC/Major Succes.
2019-10-24 14:32
No, Neo actually has a 1st place finish for 17 straight years. But hey, that's your argument right
2019-10-25 13:49
2006-2012 2014-2017 (We are talking S-tier tournaments wich f0rest has 13 years straight of) Neo got 11 years with tier1 wins but not straight. missing 2013. Neo has never been good enough in csgo to be considered goat. Sit down.
2019-10-25 14:14
1. f0rest never was good enough to be even Greatest of 1 version in CS and u calling him GOAT 2. Losed to NEO Player of a Decade award when both of them was in their prime 3. Losed to NEO almost every time when they meet in WC/Major Grand Final even while he (f0rest) had better teammates around him LOL 1. and now here is your 1 point what is JUST "he (f0rest) won more t1 tournaments overall than NEO" - ofc he have cuz he had lot of great players on Swedish scene and his teams, where he play was able to replace players unlike NEO who won 8 WC/Majors almost without scene, with just 7 players (if u count himself then it was just 8 polish players) so it's still 3-1 for NEO so NEO > f0rest Sit down.
2019-10-25 15:57
1. f0rest never was good enough to be even Greatest of 1 version in CS and u calling him GOAT 2. Losed to NEO Player of a Decade award when both of them was in their prime 3. Losed to NEO almost every time when they meet in WC/Major Grand Final even while he (f0rest) had better teammates around him LOL 1. and now here is your 1 point what is JUST "he (f0rest) won more t1 tournaments overall than NEO" - ofc he have cuz he had lot of great players on Swedish scene and his teams, where he play was able to replace players unlike NEO who won 8 WC/Majors almost without scene, with just 7 players (if u count himself then it was just 8 polish players) so it's still 3-1 for NEO so NEO > f0rest Sit down.
2019-10-25 15:57
Based on facts, f0rest wins Based on overall oppinions, f0rest wins Based on YOU, neo wins I would say sit down but its clear you have been sitting down for far to long already so, stand up, go outside.
2019-10-25 16:02
u are typical f0rest fanboy who denying facts 1. NEO player of a decade 2. NEO 8WC/Majors > 4 f0rest WC/Majors 3. NEO vs f0rest in WC/Major Grand Finals - NEO 3 > f0rest 1 4. Best of 1.6 version 1. f0rest won more t1 tournaments overall than NEO 2. f0rest was better than NEO in CS GO version i showed u all facts already, Based on facts NEO wins 4-2 if u have more important Facts tell me what it is, im courious "Based on overall oppinions" by this logic, when most people will think and write for example Ropz is GOAT - it will be truth so nt
2019-10-25 16:19
If you are saying neo is the greatest player of 1.6, i agree. Never thought oterwise. If you are talking about the goat of cs overall its not even a discussion. Its forest, most obvious thing you will ever read.
2019-10-25 16:16
ok so i'm waiting for another 2 important facts about f0rest to atleast make it draw (it's 4-2 for NEO r n)
2019-10-25 16:22
Your "facts" are as pathetic as you are. (f0rest had better teammates whä heh) Yeah thats not a handpicked personal oppinion, its a fact… neo had higher saliry so -1point for that neo had hetter coach so -1point for that blablablabla bla so -1point for that, no what the hell make it -2 for that. Se, we can both write wortless bullshit :) Every fact you present even works as if they were my own. ITS ALL 1.6 ARGUMENTS. Because thats what neo was, a great 1.6 player. He will never be the goat of cs because he has never been even close to good enough in csgo.
2019-10-25 16:35
no that's big facts, no im not telling r n that he was with better players etc. read 135# one more time, there are pure real facts like 8WC/Majors > 4WC/Majors no these arguments are overall 1.6+go about NEO and f0rest, i see u also trying to split achievements like a lot of f0rest fans trying to do, cuz it can only help f0rest but while we are talking OVERALL we talk about 1.6+GO , no just about 1.6 or just about GO version so will u show me these another 2 big arguments for f0rest to atleast make it draw, or you just can't find them like any other f0rest fan i was speaking with?
2019-10-25 16:43
No becasue you are absolutly pathetic. You wont say forest is goat because neo was best in 1.6 (forest is easily nr2). But somehow you want to say neo is goat even though he wouldnt even crack top50 of all time in csgo. You are missing the point completely and you dont even understand why poeple say forest is goat of CS, thats why no one can talk with you about it. But can talk with everyone else and they understand. You have your head too far up your own ass to understand. Why we say this about f0rest is because maintaining a tier1 consistency for 15 years between 2 games, posting as one of the best players in the world the whole time FOR 15 YEARS, is fucking unheard of. Having the most tournaments wins out of any player of all time, most consistent tournaments wins aswell with 13 years straight is fucking absurd. Neo cannot even touch this legacy. Neo is the greatest player of 1.6, thats what it is and you will have to learn to be okay with that.
2019-10-25 17:02
i like how u happy talking about just t1 tournaments that f0rest won more than NEO and completly ignore fact that NEO won 2 times more Majors which are like 2 times more important tournaments i no need to argue with you anymore, ofc f0rest is still in good form unlike neo but the point is he's too far away from his prime form to carry his team to win something, last time he was in Major final if i remember good was in early 2015 for example, even NEO when he is lower than f0rest in cs go was last time in Major in early 2017 i proved that by 4 strong arguments that NEO overall was better in his career, u are missing also all the points that i showed why NEO > f0rest , so who cares, ill keep showing u that overall NEO have 4 strong proves on his side and f0rest have 2, and even then u will keep telling me about this one of 2 f0rest points which is "f0rest in cs GO still plays well" which is fact but i already mentioned it
2019-10-25 17:53
What are you even trying to argue
2019-10-25 18:48
Neo is noob XD f0rest goat
2019-10-24 12:43
Newho?
2019-10-24 12:43
wtf Edward GOAT everybody knows that
2019-10-24 12:50
#118
NEO | 
Poland xFabio 
We can be only proud that we have players like Neo and F0rest in our game. Great persons inside and outside the game.
2019-10-24 14:21
delusional polak spotted
2019-10-24 17:30
Both are on the same lvl imo. NEO was better in 1.6 but f0rest is better in CS:GO.
2019-10-24 18:14
"NEO was better in 1.6 but f0rest is better in CS:GO." -> that's the point bro, now add: 1. Neo Player of the Decade > f0rest - 2. Neo won 8WC/Major titles with lower teammates > f0rest even with better teammates won only 4WC/Major titles 3. Neo vs f0rest face to face in WC/Major Grand Finals - NEO won 3 times > f0rest won 1 time And then u will find ez answer why NEO > f0rest
2019-10-24 18:31
Yeah, maybe NEO is slightly better rn. but its gonna change in 1 year.
2019-10-24 18:32
#142
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Denmark ghostan11 
funny that it comes from biased polak who cant stand that forest to this day is still performing good and your arguments are only that neo was slightly better in 1.6 due of winning majors. in 1.6 neo was slightly better in cs go forest is 100x better than neo overall forest> neo keep living in your shithole
2019-10-25 16:41
#168
TaZ | 
Poland Czeczen 
u are a ence fan so u shouldnt have right to vote yet alone write on hltv
2019-10-25 18:18
#169
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Denmark ghostan11 
flag checks out get out polak
2019-10-25 18:18
#170
TaZ | 
Poland Czeczen 
ok sperm waste
2019-10-25 18:18
#171
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Denmark ghostan11 
feel sad for you being born in poorland , must be hard
2019-10-25 18:19
#172
TaZ | 
Poland Czeczen 
poor chad> subhuman ence fan :P
2019-10-25 18:24
#181
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Denmark ghostan11 
poor=polak
2019-10-25 18:39
#182
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Denmark ghostan11 
btw fan of taz and you are talking about ence LUL
2019-10-25 18:40
#214
TaZ | 
Poland Czeczen 
taz = chad ence = virgins mby except allu but he is autistic so high % he is still a virgin
2019-10-26 22:11
#217
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Denmark ghostan11 
god you are retarded
2019-10-26 22:12
#218
TaZ | 
Poland Czeczen 
ok retard
2019-10-26 22:18
#219
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Denmark ghostan11 
you are from poland and u call someone retarded , pls
2019-10-26 22:19
#229
TaZ | 
Poland Czeczen 
ok ubermench stop replying to me retard
2019-10-27 12:44
#230
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Denmark ghostan11 
Poorlack
2019-10-27 13:08
#231
TaZ | 
Poland Czeczen 
R E T A R D
2019-10-27 13:33
#232
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Denmark ghostan11 
P o r l a c k
2019-10-27 13:44
#234
TaZ | 
Poland Czeczen 
OK IDIOT
2019-10-28 20:13
I cannot understand people who say f0rest is GOAT.. How the fuck can someone be the GOAT of the entire CS franchise when he wasn't even the best player at least at one version in the game... 1.6 was neo, source was rpk or shox, csgo ? gotta be device actually at this point but csgo is still going se we have to wait and see. You could say "the most ICONIC" or something along those lines but he's not THE GOAT by any means. Period.
2019-10-24 18:35
but source wasn't competitive like at all, almost all the best pro players was in 1.6 , in 1.6 on Major tournaments prizepool was around 10x higher than in CSS "I cannot understand people who say f0rest is GOAT.. How the fuck can someone be the GOAT of the entire CS franchise when he wasn't even the best player at least at one version in the game..." f0rest fans logic in shortcut: not the greatest player of cs 1.6 also not the greatest player of CS GO = GOAT (nice logic)
2019-10-25 11:17
Did you ever consider the fact that maybe Neo became IGL in cs go because he was a bot? He dropped off massively in skill in cs go. f0rest is the GOAT.
2019-10-25 16:03
#137
LUq | 
Poland neeeexZT 
How u guys can think NEO isn't better than forest? OMEGALUL Logically Neo 1.6 player of decade, GOAT 1.6 Neo achieved more in CS GO than forest lul, maybe in a skill forest is better in cs go but only this
2019-10-25 16:29
#138
ZELIN | 
Portugal Cyborgy 
player of the decade, nice bias award. who gives a fuck about it xD
2019-10-25 16:30
ye biased etc, while if it was f0rest who won u would be 1st there talking something like "but when f0rest and NEO was in their prime, f0rest won Player of a Decade award"
2019-10-25 16:34
#141
LUq | 
Poland neeeexZT 
who else get this award? no fuc**n one
2019-10-25 16:36
#145
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Denmark ghostan11 
deluded polak forest achieved way more in cs go than neo. Neo went to shithole in whole 2018 and in 2k19 he didnt achieve anything , tbh he started falling in 2k17 already and forest to this day is putting numbers. deluded kid
2019-10-25 16:43
after reading all of your comments in this thread i can safely say that you are mentally ill
2019-10-25 16:41
#147
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Denmark ghostan11 
+1000 he is deluded polak w/o arguments
2019-10-25 16:43
ok so what are ur arguments for f0rest just 1 fact that he plays better in CS GO version? and that's all? while i showed 4 arguments for neo u are the one without arguments right here
2019-10-25 16:49
#151
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Denmark ghostan11 
ok there are the arguments deluded stupid polak in 1.6 both of the players were goats of this game , neo was slightly better due of achievements , with the raw skill both was prob on the same level , i know you are polak and you will say neo was better but you need to get out of your cave and try to get something apart from rejecting everything in cs go f0rest was just 1000x better , neo prime in cs go was only 2014-2015 where he wasnt even putting amazing numbers , meanwhile f0rest was goat in csgo from the beggining and he is still putting numbers to this day , and now where is neo? sucked from 2k16 to 2k19 , went to being igl cuz he couldnt be star anymore cuz he has fallen down overall in 1.6 neo was SLIGHTLY better in cs go f0rest was 1000x better overall f0rest> neo ez rekt
2019-10-25 16:53
lol u are so mad, u just can't stand facts NEO the best of 1.6 , f0rest not the best in cs GO so also - NEO > f0rest cs 1.6 f0rest > NEO cs GO also saying f0rest is Greatest of GO version, u just rekt urself, 2nd thing saying f0rest is 1000x better in GO than NEO - LOL , no need to argue with someone like you
2019-10-25 18:03
#165
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Denmark ghostan11 
nice arguments polak , you got totaly rekt and you cant answer these arguments above you can only say neo > forest and thats all f0rest> neo in cs go by a large margin , neo sucked since 2k16 neo> f0rest slightly in 1.6 cuz of achievements overall f0rest>neo ez rekt polak kid
2019-10-25 18:06
which arguments i can't answer?? 1. NEO player of a decade 2. NEO 8WC/Majors > 4 f0rest WC/Majors 3. NEO vs f0rest in WC/Major Grand Finals - NEO 3 > f0rest 1 4. Best of 1.6 version 1. f0rest won more t1 tournaments overall than NEO 2. f0rest was better than NEO in CS GO version so there are 4 strong arguments for NEO and only 2 for f0rest, also stop calling me kid cuz i'm not like you - probably 14-17 years old, im 22 yrs old if u want to know that badly
2019-10-25 18:26
#179
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Denmark ghostan11 
#178
2019-10-25 18:38
#180
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Denmark ghostan11 
you are only pointing 1.6 and majors there and events in 1.6 why dont we compare it in cs go with major finals events won events finals etc etc then we will see who won more events overall in 1.6 and go , god you are so dumb
2019-10-25 18:39
i mentioned cs go Major grand finals, they meet each other only once there, f0rest losed
2019-10-25 18:51
#188
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Denmark ghostan11 
nice english , lost btw funny that you dont talk about other major finals where f0rest went, doesnt matter if he lost , he still played there in major finals. Meanwhile neo only went to 2 major finals where he lost one and won one and f0rest made to 4 major finals f0rest won more than 8 lan events including the big ones in cs go and neo won what? 3 events only + f0rest was making good stats there while neo was so bad that he went to being igl and still didnt success in doing that with his ''experience'' LUL
2019-10-25 18:55
"funny that you dont talk about other major finals where f0rest went, doesnt matter if he lost , he still played there in major finals. Meanwhile neo only went to 2 major finals where he lost one and won one and f0rest made to 4 major finals" - funny thing is that neo was less times in WC/Major Grand Final than f0rest (once) and still won 2 times more Majors Neo in WC/Major Grand Final 11 times - won 8 f0rest in WC/Major Grand Final 12 times - won.. 4 "f0rest won more than 8 lan events including the big ones in cs go and neo won what? 3 events only + f0rest was making good stats there while neo was so bad that he went to being igl and still didnt success in doing that with his ''experience'' LUL" - u are talking only about CS GO there so what u wanna prove me? that f0rest is better in CS GO? i already admitted f0rest is better in CS GO cuz it's obvious, also i admitted he have won more t1 tournaments
2019-10-25 19:10
#197
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Denmark ghostan11 
yes so if he was better than neo by a fucking huge margin and he still proves it in cs go by playing tier 1 lans and still rekking younger players meanwhile neo has no team didnt play in 2k18 , in 2k19 played for faze where he still didnt do anything got kicked again in cs 1.6 neo was better but not by a large margin like f0rest is in cs go so overall f0rest > neo you can deny it all you want cuz you are from poland but its truth based on facts and even neo said himself that f0rest is overall better , but deluded fanboys will still deny it just dont reply to me cuz you have lost
2019-10-25 19:15
"even neo said himself that f0rest is overall better" yes but he said something like this becouse he is soo humble, he probably would say same thing when he was 1.6 player, and it obviously wouldn't be true cuz anyone know NEO in 1.6 was TOP1, just look how easly Taz said NEO GOAT, NEO is too humble person, if Taz would reach everything what NEO does he would be on NEO place and speak for himself, and say that he himself is GOAT without even eye blink, so it depends on character/ego in my opinion, also i see u if NEO would answer "yeah im GOAT" for sure u would say then "NEO is GOAT cuz he even admit it by himself", also in same video why u not mention that (it was on Major early 2017) 3 pro players said NEO is GOAT (Taz - i mentioned him before i know, Apex, NBK) and only 1 said it's f0rest... also (i remember it good) before this Major Final (VP - Astralis) Moses (cs expert) said NEO is GOAT so it's like 4-2 even with NEO + opinion about f0rest, so u see now how humble he is? even when more pro players / cs go experts said he's GOAT, he said it's f0rest, u can check it by urself if u dont belive me, and i dont know other pro players / experts opinions about who is GOAT and now i'll for sure not reply anymore to you cuz u are probably 15 yrs old, atleast u act like u are "just dont reply to me cuz you have lost" "ez rekt polak kid" "ez rekt" "god you are so dumb"
2019-10-25 21:08
#202
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Denmark ghostan11 
so you have written an fucking essey why neo is 2humble to say something otherwise, still denying all the facts that f0rest is better overall cuz of cs go performance and neo being bot for almost whole cs go version
2019-10-25 22:25
#166
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Denmark ghostan11 
2019-10-25 18:09
i already mentioned it... 2. f0rest was/is better than NEO in CS GO version
2019-10-25 18:27
#178
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Denmark ghostan11 
so if f0rest is better in whole cs go version where neo sucked and in 1.6 they were close to eachother then quick math f0rest is better overall you must be dumb to deny it or just polak
2019-10-25 18:38
talk with you is completly redundant, few moments ago u was talked i can't answer ur arguments (why f0rest is better) and when i showed u it's 4-2 for NEO in strong arguments then u writed one more time same thing you know what, nvm
2019-10-25 18:51
Both Legends but if I'm taking one at the start of their career to build around, its NEO.
2019-10-25 16:44
#149
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Stook 
very well explained
2019-10-25 16:50
#150
NEO | 
Italy Vincenz0 
NEO himself said f0rest is the GOAT in all games of cs combined and f0rest said NEO was the GOAT in 1.6. why argue?
2019-10-25 16:52
#154
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Denmark ghostan11 
deluded polaks will stay the same , even if neo himself said that , polaks will reject it and put their dumb arguments which doesnt make sense
2019-10-25 16:55
#156
NEO | 
Italy Vincenz0 
I'm pretty confident that NEO isn't too far away from f0rest in regards of aim in cs.go, but they just have completely different roles. youtube.com/watch?v=XdVvJpXz7wE to confirm what I wrote
2019-10-25 16:56
#157
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Denmark ghostan11 
not saying neo isnt goat , but to compare him to f0rest its just dumb , we could talk about this like 3-4 years ago where neo was putting numbers in go so they could be on the same level now its pretty much confirmed to 2019 that f0rest is just better neo will still stay being one of the best players in the world if we talk about 1.6 and go but surely not better than f0rest
2019-10-25 16:58
#158
NEO | 
Italy Vincenz0 
NEO just unlucky with what happened with VP unfortunately and the roles he had in the team imo, but to me it doesn't matter who's better anyway. I can appreciate both, altho I wish NEO was still relevant ;< I'm not really following competitive cs anymore as I used to since NEO isn't playing anymore :(
2019-10-25 16:59
Yes, but notice how humble person NEO is, and notice for example how easly Taz said NEO GOAT - without eye blink, imagine if NEO would have Taz personality, he would same easly said he himself is a GOAT, so then u would say "NEO is GOAT cuz he even admit it by himself" ?? - it's nonsense, so basically it depends on ur ego/character, for example also there are much players who are saying they're better than others but they aren't also in this video u can hear 3 pro players (Taz, Apex, NBK) who said NEO is GOAT while only 1 person said f0rest is GOAT, (i'm not counting f0rest opinion about himself) also i remember before this Major final (VP - Astralis) Moses (cs expert) said NEO is GOAT so even if u count NEO opinion on himself it's still 4-2 for NEO in Pro CS Players / Experts opinions about who is GOAT And idk no more pro cs players / experts opinions
2019-10-25 21:53
#203
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Denmark ghostan11 
God you are dumb biased polak who cant stand arguments and lives in his bubble
2019-10-26 04:58
U can't stand the facts lol, even if u count NEO voice + -> to f0rest side, it's still 4-2 on NEO side by pro cs players / experts Why even they choosed NEO then?? Cuz they are "dumb and biased" for sure it will be ur answer, cuz anyone who said NEO is better in ur eyes is biased and dumb, and u going fully mad when u hear opinion like this, lol
2019-10-26 11:54
#208
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Denmark ghostan11 
When you think pro players opinion matters when you can clearly see the facts the achievements and stats and consistency, neo didnt have anything that would come close to forest in csgo , you can deny it all the time stupid deluded polak but you cant deny those facts , the only thing you can see is 1.6 where both of them were gods unlucky that neo was 100x worse in cs go , that's why forest is better , now gtfo kid
2019-10-26 17:40
1. Achievements overall NEO have much better than f0rest 2. Even pro cs players / experts thinks like me, that NEO is GOAT 3. I'm not denying fact that f0rest plays and is better in cs go, and won overall more t1 tournaments but that's only 2 arguments that f0rest have on his side while NEO have 3-4 Also f0rest is too far away from his prime form to carry his team to achieve something big, he only plays well in tournaments but almost always they fastly lose (like now on starladder)
2019-10-26 18:08
#212
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Denmark ghostan11 
if you think ''those'' experts and ''players'' think that their opinion matters then they are as dumb as you are achievements from cs go are prob still better as cs scene has grown in cs go and it made it competetive , f0rest could have adapted to it and to 2019 he is still amazing player , meanwhile neo sucked in cs go since 2k16 , was made as igl , still failed with his ''experience'' you are talking about f0rest too far away from his prime but where is neo? he dissapeared for 3 years with his 0.90 rating on majors events meanwhile f0rest still made amazing stats achievements overall f0rest>neo stupid polak
2019-10-26 18:12
Retard? Every pro is fan of forest
2019-10-27 07:21
#153
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Brazil Collee 
This is being discussed since the end of 1.6. If we consider CS:GO as well, there's no way NEO is the goat. Like, this discussion shouldn't even exist back in 2012/13 in order to NEO have a chance of being the goat in late 2019
2019-10-25 16:54
#155
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Denmark ghostan11 
+1000
2019-10-25 16:55
#161
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Canada ReaperSoul 
NEO is not the GOAT in all of CS. I think you forgot that TaZ and Snax both IGLed in VP as well to give NEO more of a starring role, and that didn't work out at all for him.
2019-10-25 17:59
exactly, Snax literally called Neo out in an interview saying how bad he was when he wasn't IGL and was given freedom to be a star again. Also at the beginning of csgo, Neo had plenty of time to be a star then but he always failed for those first few years while f0rest continued to be a top player. He was made an IGL because that is how he can best help the team because he can no longer be a star player in the first place.
2019-10-25 19:17
dont care, both have polish blood, so poland has a GOAT player :D
2019-10-25 18:12
Any rumours about NEO’s future? I feel like he was slowly getting back to form by the time of the major...I would like to see him continue in a new team.
2019-10-25 18:34
#177
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Sweden Trkmag 
This might be the most stupid thread of the year
2019-10-25 18:35
#183
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Denmark ghostan11 
its made by a polak who cant realise that even neo said that f0rest is much better overall if we talk about 1.6 and cs go
2019-10-25 18:42
#194
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Denmark Duckter007 
yes
2019-10-25 19:09
Because there can be only one goat?
2019-10-26 22:12
hes not goat hes one of the greatest player
2019-10-26 22:20
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Spain VIKTORAL 
I can't agree any more. NEO is the goat
2019-10-27 13:45
NEO is the goat >Discussion closed<
2019-10-30 17:53
Coldzera goat /close
2019-10-30 18:03
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