"if you are so keen on achievements then why not consider that
f0rest has 23 tournament wins in CSGO and NEO has 12.. also f0rest has 5 major final appearances and Neo has 2." - first of all 2nd or 3rd place isn't that big archievement, becouse u are winning nothing when you lose, is that right? when u finish on higher place in Major/t1 tournament u get only more money, (on Major also u can "win" Legend status) only winner wins trophy and succed. f0rest was always choking in WC/Major finals, NEO had less occasions than him (was 1 time less in Final) and still Double f0rest succes in WC/Majors
look at difference:
NEO in Grand Finals WC/Major 11 - won 8 of them
f0rest in Grand Finals WC/Major 12 - won.. 4 of them
what means f0rest have much more 2nd places ye, cuz he was losing, not winning (like NEO) but it also nicely explaining why he's "only" 2nd greatest player of all time in cs history, right behind neo back - NEO was just more effective player.
and what u will mention now 3rd places? xd
Overall tournaments win is useless comparison if u are talking about greatest players, only t1 tournament wins comparison would be nice, idk how much exactly they both win, i need to check it by myself but i'm pretty sure f0rest won atleast few more, but mention it as one, like 1.6+go all t1 tournaments, no need to split also when u are talking about WC+Majors cuz we are talking overall their careers, f0rest fans often trying to split achievements becouse it can only help f0rest, but when we are talking about OVERALL their careers we can't split achievements, it's nonsense cuz we are not talking about their careers in cs 1.6 only or cs go only. It's also nonsense becouse all ppl knows (people who aren't braindead) in cs 1.6 NEO was TOP1 and f0rest was TOP2 and in CS GO f0rest is better than NEO
but if you compare them Overall it's NEO > f0rest
"Now dont get me wrong. I like both f0rest and Neo, and would never bash on them but you just trying to make f0rest look so much worse is just wrong." - it only looks like it, becouse i'm comparing good simple facts, ask every f0rest fanboy why he thinks that f0rest is better than NEO, they will always keep telling u about 1 and only 1 thing (i'll write in shortcut) - becouse f0rest plays better in CS GO, while i can easly show that NEO have few more arguments, and i showed them in 4 strong points up there.
Also i think like i writed overall t1 tournaments f0rest will have more, ye but notice the difference:
f0rest won more t1 tournaments than NEO
NEO DOUBLE WC/Major f0rest Succes.