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snus and muscle growth
Finland gretathunbergsgenitals 
does anyone know if snus affects muscle growth in any way?
2019-10-22 22:41
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wtf
2019-10-22 22:44
it helps ur muscles to grow, thats why so many pro hockey players use it
2019-10-22 22:45
dont think thats true
2019-10-22 22:46
then ure thinks wrong
2019-10-22 22:52
ok
2019-10-22 23:03
yes, snus = rip gains
2019-10-22 22:48
u serious
2019-10-22 22:49
yea u better stop or else u will have to change ur hltv name
2019-10-22 22:50
no odens anymore?
2019-10-22 22:51
nope, u will have to choose between snus or gains, u cant have both.
2019-10-22 22:53
thats so unfair
2019-10-22 23:03
It prevents brain growth.
2019-10-22 22:52
false
2019-10-22 23:03
Do you take snus?
2019-10-23 11:30
yea
2019-10-23 13:23
Then you are the best example that it does xaxaxaxaxaxax
2019-10-23 13:24
lmao
2019-10-23 13:27
Oof
2019-10-23 13:30
#52
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Russia mcs#  
nice
2019-10-23 16:15
lol
2019-10-23 17:06
comes from a weak twig
2019-10-23 17:07
And you base that on absolutely nothing, nice. You keep proving me right
2019-10-23 17:14
Considering all you talk is some nerdy ass shit related to cs makes it pretty obvious that ur a skinny nerd
2019-10-23 18:16
Imagine thinking people talk about cs in hltv forums lmao
2019-10-23 18:25
Never said people dont
2019-10-23 18:44
#55
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Norway k3ron 
XAAXAXXAAXAXAXAXXAAXAXAAXAXA
2019-10-23 17:08
Then how KRIMZ so smart?
2019-10-23 13:31
If you dont snus , you lose.
2019-10-22 22:54
tru
2019-10-22 23:03
#45
flusha | 
Romania dreww_ 
haHAA
2019-10-23 15:49
lose your teeth and get mouth cancer
2019-10-22 23:05
No
2019-10-23 06:09
There is sufficient evidence that chewing tobacco and other products of similar toxicity cause excess risk of oral and oesophageal cancer
2019-10-23 11:28
yea ik bout all that cancer stuff but i only care if it kills my gains
2019-10-23 13:24
#31
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Poland Kresowy 
cancer usualy kill gains
2019-10-23 13:28
#34
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Czech Republic y0fl0w 
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17498797?dopt=Ab.. Snus use was independently associated with increased risk of pancreatic cancer (relative risk for ever-users of snus 2.0; 95% CI 1.2-3.3, compared with never-users of any tobacco), but was unrelated to incidence of oral (0.8, 95% CI 0.4-1.7) and lung cancer (0.8, 0.5-1.3). ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3139985.. Our results on smokeless tobacco use are in broad agreement with a recently published meta-analysis of all published data on the issue, which reported no excess risk of pancreatic cancer in case–control studies [9]. They are, however, at variance with those from another meta-analysis [5], based mainly on data from two Nordic cohort studies [7, 8], which suggested that smokeless tobacco is associated with an increased risk of pancreatic cancer. There are at least an additional case–control [27] and a cohort study [28] from the United States, showing RRs for smokeless tobacco above unity, of borderline significance. The difference in effects between our pooled analysis and the two Nordic countries may be due to differences in smokeless tobacco products used in the populations considered. Moreover, the apparent inconsistency between our findings and those from Nordic cohorts may be due to the absence of adjustment of estimates in the Nordic studies for most of the covariates allowed for in the present analyses. A US study included in our pooled analysis—despite the absence of an overall association—found an excess risk for subjects consuming >2.5 ounces/week of smokeless tobacco [14], while there was no evidence of an excess risk for higher use in the remaining studies providing information on dose. Although the present results for smokeless tobacco can be due to the low frequency of smokeless tobacco in populations other than Nordic countries, the present data suggest the absence of any dose–risk relation with smokeless tobacco. Further, we were able to allow for study design variables and major identified possible confounding factors, including ethnicity, education, BMI, diabetes and alcohol consumption [29], and to estimate the risk of smokeless tobacco use in lifelong nonsmokers, thus minimizing any possible bias due to residual confounding. which sufficient evidence are you talking about? btw snus != chewing tobacco
2019-10-23 13:38
ar.iiarjournals.org/content/32/8/3327.fu.. "We present a case series of patients with oral squamous cell carcinomas diagnosed at the sites where the patients had used Swedish snuff for several years." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3714813.. "Snus (nass) is a form of snuff used in a similar manner to American dipping tobacco, but it does not typically result in a need for spitting.[...] users have risks of cancer several times higher than those of nonsmokers... very strongly correlated with cancers of the cheek and gums."
2019-10-23 15:37
#46
chrisJ | 
Czech Republic y0fl0w 
1. All 16 patients in this case series were male and all were diagnosed with OSCC (Table I). The mean age at the time of cancer diagnosis (N=16) was 72.9 years (range: 48-91 years) and the median age was 75 years. The mean duration of snuff use prior to cancer diagnosis (15 cases) was 42.9 years (range: 8-71 years) and the median duration of snuff use prior to cancer diagnosis was 42 years. Ten of the patients had used oral snuff only and had no history of smoking. Five cases had a history of smoking but at the time of cancer diagnosis used snuff only. Three of the ex-smokers had ceased smoking more than 20 years earlier and the other two had stopped smoking 4 and 18 years prior to diagnosis. One patient used both snuff and smoking tobacco at the time of diagnosis. The mean age of starting snuff use was 30.4 years (median 30 years). can't be serious, 16 patients, 5 ex-smokers, 1 active smoker 2. 4 cases yes, interesting articles but how does that prove in any way the risk for these types of cancer increases if someone consuming snus
2019-10-23 15:58
It is not significant evidence, but it is not positive news either. But they all have cell carcinomas where they kept snus. "oral squamous cell carcinomas diagnosed at the sites where the patients had used Swedish snuff for several years." A problem imho. with snus research in general is that most snus users also smoke cigarettes quite often and cigars, because nicotine addiction is real.
2019-10-23 16:08
#48
chrisJ | 
Czech Republic y0fl0w 
yeah that's right. Same for me. Snus on a daily basis, cigarettes when drinking at weekends
2019-10-23 16:09
just switch to nicotine pouches, ez
2019-10-23 13:34
guess its not good for your blood circulation and oxygen saturation
2019-10-23 06:19
Fuck😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠
2019-10-23 09:05
Don't think it makes a big difference
2019-10-23 11:28
hopefully
2019-10-23 13:24
Plenty of great Olympic weightlifters are heavy smokers, especially the Chinese and Bulgarians.
2019-10-23 13:54
#27
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Sweden swediztann3 
snus is from the natural plant snus the snus everyday
2019-10-23 13:26
agree
2019-10-23 13:26
slows down hypertrophy just like tobacco, weed and alcohol lower oxygen levels in blood - muscle cells dont get as much nutrients - less muscle growth
2019-10-23 13:28
yea i heard alcohol does that but i rarely drink. think i need to stop
2019-10-23 13:38
#35
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Australia Jazzyboy 
it only affects performance in the gym since nicotine restricts blood vessels which means less oxygen flow to the muscles, not a doctor tho, dont do snus a couple of hours before going to the gym and you are good mate
2019-10-23 13:33
i need to experiment with this
2019-10-23 13:38
#40
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Australia Jazzyboy 
give it a shot
2019-10-23 13:48
Also it decreases your apetite
2019-10-23 16:12
#50
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Australia Jazzyboy 
true
2019-10-23 16:13
#37
Plopski | 
Sweden Fimpo 
doesnt really matters
2019-10-23 13:35
#43
Xyp9x | 
Cyprus Xeeh 
The growth is the cancer in your mouth
2019-10-23 15:38
if u have motivation to go to the gym, tf is holding u back from dropping ur nicotine addiction?
2019-10-23 15:45
Doesnt affect your muscle growth
2019-10-23 16:14
Snus gives you massive muskles
2019-10-23 17:08
unless u dont wanna do competition i don't think any drugs will affect ur muscle growth alot.
2019-10-23 17:09
Im looking to compete in powerlifting
2019-10-23 18:17
#58
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Poland Adisky 
Chemically speaking, snus shares many similarities with amino acids. Your body can produce it from the amino acids glycine and arginine. Several factors affect your body's snus stores, including meat intake, exercise, amount of muscle mass and levels of hormones like testosterone and IGF-1 About 95% of your body's snus is stored in muscles in the form of phosphocreatine. The other 5% is found in your brain, kidneys and liver When you supplement, you increase your stores of phosphocreatine. This is a form of stored energy in the cells, as it helps your body produce more of a high-energy molecule called ATP. ATP is often called the body's energy currency. When you have more ATP, your body can perform better during exercise Snus also alters several cellular processes that lead to increased muscle mass, strength and recovery
2019-10-23 17:12
Is this actual facts or broscience
2019-10-23 18:17
#60
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United States PH4RMA 
Idk about snus but I had a huge boost in my gains first year or so after I quit smoking
2019-10-23 17:16
Ive had some great results wit snus so far but idk would it help if i quit
2019-10-23 18:18
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