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Thoughts on Top10
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
1. Astralis 2. fnatic - at the moment, not for long I think. 3. Liquid 4. Na'Vi 5. G2 6. Vitality 7. EG 8. NiP 9. Mousesports 10. Renegades Could be controversial, but I think that Heroic could be a team to watch. Give them time I think they can get top10. Fnatic are good, yes, but recently their performance in ECS and ESL-PL have been a bit lackluster, so they're definitely dropping. G2 I think are definitely a team with a *LOT* of potential to win championships, after the addition of NEXA and huNter- as a solid duo. NEXA's performance yesterday against Na'Vi was stellar, and I think he's going to help G2 go far. His 71% KAST and 1.17 rating are quite impressive stats. As for EG, some would say they're a fluke. I wouldn't agree, but yeah the whole 'jetlag' thing is bullshit excuses; they sound like old s1mple with the excuses and that. I think they need more time to prove themselves because at the moment, they're no better than Liquid. Since the departure of NBK, I don't think vitality are quite the same 2-0 machine. They're definitely improving, but since shox has come in their performances have dipped a little. I think they're on course for #2 in the world. Maybe they might even get number 1. Mouz have a lot of potential in ropz. They have to keep hold of him. Also, they have karrigan. In my opinion, the 2nd best IGL of all time, after gla1ve. This young squad could really go far with a good coach and some time. However their form lately has been pretty shocking, losing 2-1 to North. North god damn it. Renegades are epic, but just not as good. They're improving, but its a slow grind for them. Thanks for reading. :) Thoughts?
2019-10-23 10:26
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#1
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
bump - lmao i spent 20 minutes writing this like the attention whore i am
2019-10-23 10:32
#70
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
This is why I think people should watch Heroic! hltv.org/matches/2337117/heroic-vs-natus..
2019-10-23 13:40
bump
2019-10-23 10:29
#5
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
alpha move from you right there.
2019-10-23 10:30
FNATIC 2ND WTF?? Na'Vi is nowhere near #4,even though I'm a fan of them Same with G2(altough im not a fan of them)
2019-10-23 10:29
#9
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
Fnatic are #2 because they won dhm malmo and beat astralis 2-0. That takes some serious fucking skill, no?
2019-10-23 10:31
#11
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Austria epiXYZ 
flukenatic
2019-10-23 10:35
#12
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
XD
2019-10-23 10:35
It does but no team becomes #2 after literally 1 tournament
2019-10-23 10:35
#74
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Netherlands PasscaLl 
Got 2-0d by rng
2019-10-23 13:59
bump
2019-10-23 10:29
#14
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
Thanks G :)
2019-10-23 10:35
#6
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
+1 but EG should be atleast 4th imo even if they have struggled recently, they were sick before that as NRG
2019-10-23 10:30
EG won one tournament in USA where other teams were jetlagged.
2019-10-24 09:24
#7
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Sweden Martintimell69 
fnatic should be number 6 or something
2019-10-23 10:31
fnatic 2nd? why people don't accept their win was a honeymoon period.
2019-10-23 10:31
#10
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
that's why I said probably dropping. open eyes mens(((
2019-10-23 10:32
Strange top, sorry, saying good about g2, place them 5th instead of navi, illogical
2019-10-23 10:35
2. fnatic 1 freaking event. yea sure lets throw them on second place 4. Na'Vi 5. G2 6. Vitality based on what lol? makes literally no sense at all
2019-10-23 10:38
#18
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
Na'Vi are amazing lately, now they ditched a Zeus and edward and their old coach they will go far. G2 are just a good team, they consistently perform well and they have some good potential in the new roster. Vitality are just not so good right now.
2019-10-23 10:40
"Na'Vi are amazing lately" no they are not + 0 achievments "G2 are just a good team, they consistently perform well and they have some good potential" rankings arent based on something hypotetical like potential or opinion. new lineup and literally 0 achievments. those teams have no place in top5 at all and surely not before vitality. you are obviously biased AF here
2019-10-23 10:43
#24
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
Biased? This is my honest opinion. Why would I be biased anyway, I'm UKCS and we're all just toxic fucks aren't we, we don't deserve an opinion right? feelsbadman
2019-10-23 10:44
"Biased? This is my honest opinion" opinion based on literally NOTHING so you are clearly biased towards those 2 teams because no sane person would put them to top5 and before vitality based on teams actual performance and their achievments...and as you can see noone agrees with you in that. so yes, biased AF
2019-10-23 10:46
#28
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
hltv.org/news/28206/nexa-the-amount-of-w.. - one of my bases for G2. Just look at Na'Vi's results.
2019-10-23 10:46
HOLY MOTHER OF GOD...next lvl hltv logic: ranking based on...wait for it...INTERVIEW:DDDDDDDDD ok i will not waste more my time with obviously completely brainded person, bye
2019-10-23 10:47
#31
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
Ight have a nice day :)
2019-10-23 10:47
yea navi soooo gooood lmao
2019-10-23 13:53
0/8 stop making these shitty threads
2019-10-23 10:39
#19
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
Peak.
2019-10-23 10:40
ranking G2 ahead of VItality HAHAHAHA
2019-10-23 10:41
#21
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
Why?
2019-10-23 10:42
cause Vitality just made the finals of Malmo and at this event they are looking fucking stronk 4 all the maps they won the opponent didn't even get double digits rounds. G2 look good but they are not a top 5 team in the world.
2019-10-23 10:43
#25
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
And? Vitality underperformed lately. G2 went above and beyond.
2019-10-23 10:44
I just told you they smashed iG and North at this event lmao and you're saying they are underperforming.
2019-10-23 10:46
#30
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
North aren't even top20, of course they smashed them. EG are 'jetlagged' hltv.org/news/28206/nexa-the-amount-of-w.. - read that, this is why I think g2 are going far
2019-10-23 10:47
MOUZ ALMOST LOST TO INVICTUS LMAO
2019-10-23 10:51
#33
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
Lol I think they're ill or somthing XD
2019-10-23 10:52
an excuse is always a excuse
2019-10-23 10:52
#35
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
Just liek s1mple is always toxic XD
2019-10-23 10:53
yes he is dont doubt it #news1mple is just a fraud
2019-10-23 10:53
#41
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
more like #news0mple XD
2019-10-23 10:54
#49
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
nt shit scene its s1mple
2019-10-23 10:58
#48
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
fuck off no scene s1mple has changed #newgoats1mple he is now the most humble and respected player in eSports
2019-10-23 10:58
yes thats why he is the only player who is the most animated, always with his hand on his face yes very motivating for players sitting besides him LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2019-10-23 11:00
#53
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
Because he has so much passion for this game and so much hunger to win unlike your shit no scene that hasnt done anything.
2019-10-23 11:01
passion and hunger for win shouldnt look like when you are dead, you literally have no faith in your teammates so you close your eyes and bring then even more down. "shit no scene that hasnt done anything" said guy with Europe flag u high yes?
2019-10-23 11:05
#57
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
'passion and hunger for win shouldnt look like when you are dead' lmao its useless to argue with a no scener like you who clearly doesnt understand shit
2019-10-23 11:06
stupid boy can't even quote an sentence by someone else so you copy half of it BOY GET YOUR ASS BACK TO SCHOOL you definetely need to have some more lessons
2019-10-23 11:08
#36
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
1. NaVi 2. Astralis 3. Liquid 4. EG 5. Fnatic
2019-10-23 10:53
#39
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
Bases? Na'Vi won't be top1 again for a long while mate.
2019-10-23 10:53
#40
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
You won't be saying this at the end of the year :)
2019-10-23 10:54
#42
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
Somebody pin this damn thread I'm making a laugh thread if you're wrong.
2019-10-23 10:54
#45
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
UK DUDE MAKING A LAUGH THREAD ON SOMEONE ELSE HAHAHHAHAHAH WONT HAPPEN ANYWAYS
2019-10-23 10:56
#47
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
Mark my words.
2019-10-23 10:56
#37
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United Kingdom Baiter_99 
liquid > Fnatic
2019-10-23 10:53
#43
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
Yeah, but the results don't show it rn
2019-10-23 10:55
#44
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Ukraine spark_magical 
EG should be higher Fnatic lower G2 lower
2019-10-23 10:55
#46
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
Fair shout
2019-10-23 10:56
#50
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Asia tyrkjaranid 
1. Astralis 2. EG 3. Vitality 4. Liquid 5. NA'VI 6. fnatic 7. Renegades 8. mousesports 9. AVANGAR 10. G2
2019-10-23 10:58
#54
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
Stopped reading at Astralis
2019-10-23 11:02
#59
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
Ok why?
2019-10-23 13:29
#52
BnTeT | 
Cyprus shmoe 
search function did not mention big in your thread. -> irrelevant tl;dr
2019-10-23 11:01
#60
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
lmao
2019-10-23 13:29
#55
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France bjjthibz 
I like G2 and Vitality but Vitality is better. When you say they're not good atm (#18) i'm a bit surprised. Last 6 months CS SUMMIT - 1st ECS S7 - 1st IEM Chicago : semi final ESL Cologne : final Berlin Major : 1/4 DH Malmo : final I might forget some events but imo these are great results for a team ! EDIT : i edited my post because i confused ESL Cologne / NY and Chicago result was semi final
2019-10-23 11:05
#61
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
cs summit is t3 event its irrelevant... other than that fair enough.
2019-10-23 13:30
#86
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France bjjthibz 
Agreed, i did not mention Charleroi Esports though xD
2019-10-24 09:21
#62
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North America 007DBR9 
I think that you may be overrating NaVi, other than that I agree with the list. I would've said G2 is too high but your reasoning for it makes sense.
2019-10-23 13:33
#63
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
Finally, someone who doesn't hate on me :D Thanks.
2019-10-23 13:34
#64
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North America 007DBR9 
ye, np
2019-10-23 13:34
#65
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
add on steam?
2019-10-23 13:35
#66
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North America 007DBR9 
Sure, not at home atm but my name is 007DBR9 as well, profile pic is a family crest, although I think I'm the only one with that name.
2019-10-23 13:36
#67
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
I'll dm u my link
2019-10-23 13:36
#68
dRiim | 
Finland dRiim 
i agree to some extent
2019-10-23 13:37
#69
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
To what extent?
2019-10-23 13:38
#72
NEO | 
Poland NoToRacism 
Where is m1x?
2019-10-23 13:55
#75
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
Tier 3
2019-10-23 14:02
#77
NEO | 
Poland NoToRacism 
25:35 vs Astralis so
2019-10-23 14:03
#79
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
Still a T3 team though...
2019-10-23 14:11
#80
NEO | 
Poland NoToRacism 
VItality won 19 rounds in BO3 vs Astralis and they are top 6 in your ranking. I know it not working like that, but m1x is really fucking strong xd
2019-10-23 14:24
#73
flusha | 
Germany sanos 
navi #4 XDDDDD
2019-10-23 13:56
#76
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
Not any more XD
2019-10-23 14:02
#78
flusha | 
Germany sanos 
not even before. they achieved nothing and any placings they had with zeus are negated because they have a new igl and have to prove themselves again. thats why they are #9 on hltv rankings which is a spot on placement
2019-10-23 14:03
#81
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France FlakeFag 
bump
2019-10-23 21:44
#83
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United Kingdom compl3xii 
Lad right here
2019-10-24 00:52
FNATIC IN 2019 AXAXAXAXAXAXAXAX 1. Astralis 2-3. Vitality / NaVi 4. Liquid 5. EG
2019-10-23 21:46
#84
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United States Leapoz 
As Mouz fan here are my thoughts : Keep the current roster, its not time to abandon Frozen or chrisJ like many others seem to think. Karrigan said after the games today that they are going to be switching up roles and experimenting a bit, and with Frozen being so young, he needs to be aided by this team of strong players to help him find a comfortable role for himself. As for chrisJ, he is (obviously) inconsistent. Most of the time up until their recent failures, chris could play a bit poorly and the rest of the team would make up for the places he lacked in. This is not acceptable for a team that wants to win tournaments, so they need to see what can come from these new roles, and hope that their consistency improves as well as their skill peak. They have shown that they are a very capable team, but need to prove themselves consistently, and maybe win a few tournaments (Beijing?)
2019-10-24 01:03
#85
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Spain JasonRacism 
Astralis Liquid EG Vitality Renegades Fnatic NiP Na'Vi G2 ENCE
2019-10-24 02:26
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