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Neither s1mple nor ZyWoo
Russia alexo22 
Neither s1mple nor ZyWoo deserves the top-1 of 2019. This title is about being the most valuable for your team to win tournaments and not about baiters who get a lot of frags because of bad teammates and without serious titles. When s1mple got #1 of 2018 NaVi was at least a strong team, a firm top2-3. What's NaVi in 2019? Top6-10? What's Vitality in 2019? Top4-6?
2019-11-02 17:07
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0/8
2019-11-02 17:09
what?
2019-11-02 17:12
#34
s1mple | 
Germany meljan 
he wants to say that you are stupid in every possible way, and pretty much new to hltv
2019-11-02 17:40
I'm not stupid in any possible way Signed up 2015-05-22 -> I guess I'm not new to hltv 0/8
2019-11-02 17:42
#41
s1mple | 
Germany meljan 
Than you are new to mankind. Hello alien
2019-11-02 17:44
Hello
2019-11-02 17:44
#58
chrisJ | 
United Kingdom dv-_- 
That's new
2019-11-05 08:47
How about 2013 mister 2009?
2019-11-05 15:37
That is cool
2019-11-08 09:48
"and not about baiters who" a baiter talking about someone being a baiter
2019-11-05 15:46
hes right
2019-11-05 10:40
#2
Sakura | 
Japan Ron1E 
Liquid > Astralis > EG > Fnatic > Vitality in 2019 Astralis > NaVi = Liquid in 2018
2019-11-02 17:09
lol
2019-11-02 17:11
Liquid get fucked by astralis EG and probably even fnatic now
2019-11-02 17:14
Liquid was the best team of this year, astralis second Are you really delusional?
2019-11-02 17:19
#36
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North America 007DBR9 
lmfaoquid doesn't matter anymore
2019-11-02 17:41
Astralis were top1 for 5 months and liquid were top1 for 4 months. That is what matters.
2019-11-02 17:48
#59
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
Nope
2019-11-05 08:54
cuz of summer break
2019-11-08 09:49
Yes. Liquid were top1 only for 2 months due to summer break.
2019-11-08 11:22
#28
Sakura | 
Japan Ron1E 
Its about all year
2019-11-02 17:32
Good point, although liquid still dont earn 1st spot, they are 3rd or 4th imo, i'm not too sure why dropped off, i kind if feel bad for liquid fans
2019-11-05 08:30
#64
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Belgium Devos1 
becausse they only rose to the top when Navi was changing their line up Astralis just wasnt playing and the other Teams werent practicing enough so liquid is fluke confirmed
2019-11-05 09:03
Tbh i don't think it was a fluke, they actually were really dominant, vitality was also finding alot of success, and some other teams were really good too, everything was just going really well for them, and tbh 6 months and 7 tournements won is a pretty big fluke
2019-11-06 18:42
#103
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Belgium Devos1 
its a fluke cause all top Teams didnt perform worst competitive Scene in years
2019-11-07 08:14
Just because astralis dropped off a bit and navi were'nt playing well doesn't mean no top teams were performing
2019-11-08 09:43
#108
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Belgium Devos1 
vitality was shit at that time to eg wasnt as good as they are now faze was just a big mess fnatic aswell so not just 2
2019-11-08 10:01
#33
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Latvia hellsave 
lulquid what?
2019-11-02 17:39
Vitality is easily better than fnatic overall in 2019
2019-11-05 09:04
Astralis = Eg >>>>>>>>> Fnatic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zyvitality = Avangar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LULquid in 2019
2019-11-05 09:38
Astralis 2 majors 2019
2019-11-05 09:44
#102
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France DesmondHumes 
Vitality > Fnatic Otherwise I agree
2019-11-06 18:45
yeah number #1 is obviously stanislaw or tarik because EG is #1
2019-11-02 17:13
0/8
2019-11-02 17:13
what?
2019-11-02 17:14
stfu
2019-11-02 17:14
no, you
2019-11-02 17:15
+1
2019-11-08 09:50
Still, ZyWoo will probably get #1 of 2019 because there's no better choice. But it's literally the worst #1 of a year ever
2019-11-02 17:14
#69
Boo | 
France mbl4 
No, the top 20 2014 was fucked up
2019-11-05 09:34
My boy flusha, cheater got robbed.
2019-11-05 13:08
#93
Boo | 
France mbl4 
+1
2019-11-05 13:11
why device was top2 then lul
2019-11-02 17:14
But those are basically 2 the best players of 2019. If not them, then who? Twistzzz? EliGE? Thats basically the two last option, but still ZywOo and s1mple are playing much better.
2019-11-02 17:14
I'm not sure if s1mple is even #3 of this year. he's had literally 0 mvp's this period
2019-11-02 17:16
And still was a beast.
2019-11-02 17:17
No, just a baiter
2019-11-02 17:17
Dont agree at all. Can you show me one clip when s1mple baits his teammates?
2019-11-02 17:19
Cold was a baiter in 2017 and still got #1
2019-11-05 10:00
cold won like 6 Big events in 2017, best rating at majors and wasn’t a raging cry baby without relevant titles like p1mple
2019-11-08 16:38
Hahaha I know colds a good player I'm just messing with people. Tho saying that he has been 16-0d 3+ times on D2
2019-11-09 15:04
mens(((
2019-11-09 15:34
twistzz? lmao
2019-11-05 08:42
Twistzz? Not even top 5 player
2019-11-05 09:47
EliGE? Yes Twistzz? LMAO no
2019-11-05 10:47
Ok he had some quite time but at the start of the year he was a beast.
2019-11-05 15:31
s1mple is very good today.
2019-11-02 17:16
#37
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North America 007DBR9 
s1mple is only good when it doesn't matter anymore because he can't tilt
2019-11-02 17:41
s1mple vs c9 = 32 kills s1mple vs Astralis = 32 kills s1mple vs nip = 33 kills.
2019-11-02 17:42
#15
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Hong Kong Sample_ 
Zeus top 1
2019-11-02 17:16
0/8 How the fuck is Zywoo supposed to win 4 average at best players?
2019-11-02 17:19
#22
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Oceania Rusuli 
"This title is about being the most valuable for your team to win tournaments..." Then your interpretation of the title is incredibly boring, because the award should go to the highest rated player on the top team every time.
2019-11-02 17:23
Yes, this is the basic principle and every year except 2018 the award went to the highest rated player on the top team
2019-11-02 17:26
#24
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Oceania Rusuli 
Not true. That has never been the interpretation of HLTV, let alone actual respected analysts. I can also safely say it didn't happen in 2014.
2019-11-02 17:27
Hltv has obviously never revealed how they determine the #1, it's rather a subjective thing. In 2014 it's hard to say what team was the #1. Probably NiP because of one major win and two 2nd places on the other two.
2019-11-02 17:30
#30
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Oceania Rusuli 
1) they have revealed that, find the articles yourself 2) you are now understanding subjectivity, LMAO
2019-11-02 17:35
They revealed what factors they consider, it doesn't cancel their choice is totally subjective since there's no mathematical function which would value all the parameters to give them the best player.
2019-11-02 17:38
#35
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Oceania Rusuli 
See, this is why people give you 0/8 Hold some logical consistency.
2019-11-02 17:40
people who just write 0/8 are plankton, I couldn't care less about them
2019-11-02 17:44
#46
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Oceania Rusuli 
No, u. Your entire argument reversed course over the course of 4 lines from "what a joke, it's plain to see that this is a travesty" to "let other people have their opinions, you're not the truth-guy" contradict yourself more
2019-11-02 17:46
#25
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United Kingdom Klashnekoff 
zywoo is already #1 this year forget about it
2019-11-02 17:30
the worst #1 ever then
2019-11-02 17:30
#77
jhd | 
Finland JHdash77 
Who would be better lmao
2019-11-05 09:49
I hope this is bait
2019-11-02 17:32
0/8
2019-11-02 17:39
what?
2019-11-02 17:44
#32
2019-11-02 17:44
#45
i am | 
Brazil |LUCAS1| 
Not Goku and nor Vegeta, i am the one who is going to destroy you!
2019-11-02 17:45
#67
Musab | 
Egypt arabamer 
mud attack
2019-11-05 09:30
#47
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Finland Mirfic 
Top 1 isn't about being the MVP, it's about having the most pure skill 0/8
2019-11-02 17:47
#70
Boo | 
France mbl4 
lmao nt
2019-11-05 09:36
Device deserves number 1
2019-11-02 17:47
Agreed.
2019-11-02 17:50
No matter the team's overall performance you cannot take their individual performances away from them. s1mple and ZywoOo are on a whole new level in CS:GO, no other Pro are anyway near their individual level. Its "HLTV top 20 PLAYERS" not "HLTV top 20 players who won events and have to be in the best team" NiKo, Device, Electronic, and Elige are all exceptional players, but not #1.
2019-11-05 08:36
#57
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
Well although i agree he could just say Its "HLTV top 20 players" not "HLTV top 20 players who have the highest ratings despite that not helping the team as much as it would suggest especially vs the 3-5th highest ratings.org"
2019-11-05 08:47
the "s1mple and ZywoOo are just baiters" thing has to stop... the team is playing the way they do cuz they now it works... it's not a playstyle that wins you Majors, but it works (apparently) - (I'm not saying you blamed them for baiting) but its a general theme that they get blamed for baiting. And besides that the HLTV top 20 is mostly based on rating, s1mple is the best player in CS:GO, only play who's close based on pure individual skill, not based on Rating or Event wins or MVP's.
2019-11-05 09:01
#53
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Russia mmmmmmajestic 
It will mean that winning Majors and being MVP of the Major worth nothing If device doesnt get #1 and if Magisk is outside top 5.
2019-11-05 08:40
dev1ce wont be 1st and its about WHOLE YEAR, not about 2 tournaments...where was tarik as major mvp? adren as major mvp?
2019-11-05 08:44
0/8
2019-11-05 08:41
What?
2019-11-05 10:23
0/8
2019-11-05 10:34
0/8
2019-11-05 09:00
What?
2019-11-05 10:22
Good bait=8/8 Bad bait=0/8
2019-11-05 10:47
What's bait?
2019-11-05 13:04
#111
fluke | 
France Urzqor 
3/8
2019-11-08 11:28
#63
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Portugal MR_CAL 
navi and vitality were both solid teams in 2019.... i dont really understand your point.... obviously zywoo or s1mple are going to be #1. probably zywoo i would say
2019-11-05 09:03
zywoo does everything he can to carry his team out of the slump. he is not a baiter at all.
2019-11-05 09:11
Totally agree. Best player of the year should be the player that achieved the best possible for his team while also shining individually. No matter how you turn this around it is a team game and not an individual sport where the only thing counting is the "stats/time/points". This game also reflects on the ability to make your team function in the best possible way - and the best player know that he also sometimes have to do what is best for the team and 2nd best for the individual. If you do not get this premise as a player you are not fit to be the #1 in any team game.
2019-11-05 09:26
#68
shrek | 
New Zealand is_love 
hunden #1
2019-11-05 09:32
#72
Petra | 
Netherlands Yourii 
Lol its not about winning tournaments retard
2019-11-05 09:38
Is it about having useless frags debil?
2019-11-05 10:27
#97
Petra | 
Netherlands Yourii 
If its about winning tournaments why was device #2
2019-11-05 15:31
it's not about winning tournaments, it's about being tne key to winning them. Dev1ce wasn't as crucial to Astralis' achievements as s1mple was to NaVi's. But this year Zywoo's and especially s1mple's achievements are nothing
2019-11-05 15:44
put zywoo/simple in astralis instead of device = 40 bomb still top 1 put device in vitality/navi instead of zywoo/simple = OMEGALUL
2019-11-05 09:42
I can confirm even tho I like my flair
2019-11-09 15:06
0/8
2019-11-05 09:43
What?
2019-11-05 10:22
2019 not done yet lol.
2019-11-05 10:29
#84
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Bulgaria Ju7y 
Brehze is gonna be top 1. mark my words
2019-11-05 10:30
#95
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North America 007DBR9 
lmfao not even best NA krieg abuser OMEGALOL
2019-11-05 13:13
MVP is about individual not about what team does. Zywoo is clear favourite but if s1mple had played similar amount of maps he would be highest rated player. Dude dropped three 30 bombs in a row at Blast and still wasn't enough to win all 3 maps
2019-11-05 10:39
#112
fluke | 
France Urzqor 
But why did he play a less amount of maps ? Cause he couldn't carry Navi enough ..
2019-11-08 11:30
because Navi didnt want to attend LOL
2019-11-08 15:35
#115
fluke | 
France Urzqor 
? How is that an argument ?
2019-11-08 16:31
#94
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North America 007DBR9 
God Hunden /closed
2019-11-05 13:12
Stopped reading after: > This title is about being the most valuable for your team to win tournaments Boy, you're dumb.
2019-11-08 10:03
#113
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Ukraine Sla1ter 
Seized top1 /closed
2019-11-08 11:31
1. there hasnt been a consistent #1 team this year. thats why although you want to knock off s1 and zywoos achievements, theres no real superstar players to take them out of the top 5 at least 2. if you know anything about csgo, its actually harder to do well with shit teammates. zywoo is literally carrying harder than any other #1 ever. he baits when he needs to, but he also entries and creates space for himself even more often. 3. ItS a TeAmGaMe- its an individual award that goes to the player who consistently played the best against the best teams in the world while having the most impact to their team. players earn their spot on the list no matter where it is
2019-11-08 16:50
You are right
2019-11-09 15:33
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