Thread has been deleted
Last comment
top 20 players of 2019
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
i'm doing this off the top of my head so i'm most likely gonna forget a few players. feel free to comment what you would change 20. sergej pretty consistent at big events throughout the year 19. KSCERATO puts up BIG stats on lan. the only reason he isnt' higher is cause furia hasn't won anything 18. nitr0 put up very respectable stats as the igl of the best team of this year 17. Jame same as kscerato, puts up big stats but hasn't done anything SUPER notable except make it to the major final 16. jks integral part of renegades' major runs 15. Stewie2k has the chance to be higher on the list but sacrifices his stats and a star role to win championships. stew turned liquid into 1iquid 14. coldzera even if mibr struggled this year he still put up really good stats at big events. just won blast with faze too 13. allu not much to say. consistently delivers on lan 12. dupreeh one of the best entry fraggers to this day 11. ethan a bit inconsistent throughout the year but he's been killing it lately 10. cerq if brehze isn't carrying, cerq is 9. magisk not much to say. he's just always fragging out 8. niko still one of the most insane players in the scene even with his dip in form 7. naf apparently took a "backseat" role when stewie joined but he still frags out lol 6. twistzz might just be the most mechanically gifted players in the whole scene 5. electronic quietly one of the best players in the game 4. device i don't care what you say about him. boring or not he's one of the most consistent and impactful players there is 3. elige i.imgur.com/idCa2rO.jpg 2. s1mple it's s1mple 1. zywoo HARD carried vitality all year. won mvps of tournaments he didn't even win. (s1mple and zywoo are super close so you could definitely make the case for either of them to be #1)
2019-11-03 07:15
Topics are hidden when running Sport mode.
nitr0? lul
2019-11-03 07:18
#4
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
what's wrong with nitr0?
2019-11-03 07:20
come on even xyp9x is better same goes to kscerato, sergej brehze and many more of them
2019-11-03 07:42
#48
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
#14
2019-11-03 07:42
Jkaem?
2019-11-03 07:20
Elige is the true #1. His adr is #1. Hltv rating is broken. Too much weight on surviving. Thats why most of awpers have good ratings. Save, baiting shits. 1.elige 2.zywoo 3.electronic 4.simple 5.device End of discussion
2019-11-05 06:45
Wtf how is this relevant to nitr0 being in top 20
2019-11-06 01:09
#2
 | 
Australia Leftistt 
6. twistzz might just be the most mechanically gifted players in the whole scene LMAO
2019-11-03 07:18
#3
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
i could be wrong but im pretty sure he has the highest hs% out of all the players on hltv. it's pretty widely accepted that his aim is fucking bonkers
2019-11-03 07:19
#5
 | 
Australia Leftistt 
Yeah, but he isn't the "most mechanically gifted player in the whole scene"
2019-11-03 07:20
#7
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
keyword "might". twistzz, s1mple, niko, zywoo, elige, etc are all on the same level in my opinion
2019-11-03 07:21
#9
 | 
Australia Leftistt 
0/8
2019-11-03 07:22
he's actually correct, not sure why you're saying "0/8"
2019-11-03 07:23
#13
 | 
Australia Leftistt 
You're telling me Elige and Niko are on the same lvl as Zywwo and S1mple? youtube.com/watch?v=0l20Pac9YWM
2019-11-03 07:24
#16
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
in terms of mechanical skill, of course
2019-11-03 07:26
yes, actually. currently? elige is definitely the same level, niko at his peak? yes.
2019-11-03 07:26
#19
 | 
Australia Leftistt 
2019-11-03 07:27
awful joke, fix your giant teeth and overbite before you speak again.
2019-11-03 07:29
#26
 | 
Australia Leftistt 
My gIaNtT tEeEtHh Maybe learn something about cs before commenting
2019-11-03 07:29
i clearly know a hell of a lot more than you, imagine thinking elige isn't near simple or zywoo. keep being delusional, your only team is owned by an NA org, get fucked no scene. /closed
2019-11-03 07:32
#33
 | 
Australia Leftistt 
Aight gamer whatever you say. Go back to working at your corner store on your minimum wage job thinking you know anything about cs. LMAO Btw where is a Canadian team? FUCKING NOWHERE IOI
2019-11-03 07:34
so you know nothing about canada OR cs, interesting, also your best player is nowhere near any canadian player, even our worst IGL is better than jks so again, take your overbite and cry more yellow teeth. /actually closed
2019-11-03 07:35
#38
 | 
Australia Leftistt 
CrYy MoOReee YeLLoW TeEtH Honestly shows how uneducated you are. Check the stats buddy. I don't see one Canadian team in top 30.
2019-11-03 07:37
#41
TACO | 
Brazil MarceloG 
both of you are actual fucking virgins /closed
2019-11-03 07:40
#44
 | 
Australia Leftistt 
ngl kinda true
2019-11-03 07:40
LMAO
2019-11-03 08:16
I don't know a single canadian player actually better than jks. You are gonna say Twistzz, since he might get a higher ranking this year but in terms of overall skill, reactions, awareness, decision making, utility usage and many more things jks beats twistzz every time
2019-11-03 09:18
there will be 2 canadian players over jks in hltv top20. just saying...
2019-11-03 09:46
twistzz and naf run circles around jks, can't wait for the top 20 list to speak for itself.
2019-11-03 18:25
#98
frozen | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Quite delusional on your part. Jks is better than those two in the clutch and that's it. They're better entry players, twistzz is a better lurker and they're both better site anchors and that's backed up by numerous stats and results.
2019-11-04 01:36
#36
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
stop it dude lol.
2019-11-03 07:35
#39
 | 
United States Vollizie 
You guys lost to emus xD
2019-11-03 07:38
#40
 | 
Australia Leftistt 
Ye ik pretty fucked aye
2019-11-03 07:38
#42
 | 
United States Vollizie 
We lost rice farmers xD
2019-11-03 07:39
#43
 | 
Australia Leftistt 
Bro at least you didn't lose to a fucking animal xd
2019-11-03 07:40
#25
TACO | 
Brazil MarceloG 
+1
2019-11-03 07:29
+1 Lose argument = “0/8”
2019-11-04 03:08
#8
TACO | 
Brazil MarceloG 
i think naf should be on top of twistzz
2019-11-03 07:22
#12
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
they have the exact same big event rating (1.17) but twistzz has a much higher kd so i gave it to him based on stats. you can definitely make the case for either though
2019-11-03 07:24
#56
 | 
United States Vollizie 
NAF has a higher impact rating that Twistzz and 1 more EVP than him (7 total for NAF).
2019-11-03 08:05
#86
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
fair enough. like i said you could make the case for either of them
2019-11-04 01:13
#11
 | 
United States Vollizie 
eh i dont think nitr0 makes the list tbh. "s1mple and zywoo are super close," it hasn't been close the past couple of months.
2019-11-03 07:24
#14
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
it's hard not to put him on the list. the historic streak liquid went on, the fact that he's igl and can still frag better than most players despite being on a team built with top tier fraggers idk, just my opinion
2019-11-03 07:25
#15
 | 
India ROFLaala 
I believe woxic/krimz/brollan deserve a chance in top 20
2019-11-03 07:25
#21
 | 
Australia Leftistt 
I doubt woxic will make top 20 this yr tbh
2019-11-03 07:27
#23
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
i would love to put woxic on the list but mouz haven't really accomplished anything this year. brollan only recently broke out as a star so i don't think he'll be in the top 20 this year but he's only like 16 or 17 so he has A LOT of time left to play you could definitely make a case for krimz
2019-11-03 07:29
#45
 | 
India ROFLaala 
Agreed + feels bad for woxic
2019-11-03 07:41
#18
 | 
Australia iBlooDx 
Where is brehze? and how is allu there.
2019-11-03 07:26
#27
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
fuck. i knew i would forget someone important lol and allu definitely deserves a spot
2019-11-03 07:30
#20
Xyp9x | 
Denmark Khronov 
No brehze lol Stewie2k and bot allu top 15 lol
2019-11-03 07:27
#30
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
#28 stew and allu definitely deserve spots
2019-11-03 07:30
#32
Xyp9x | 
Denmark Khronov 
hltv.org/stats/players/compare/4954/Xyp9.. Even xyp9x have a better stats than him lol
2019-11-03 07:33
#34
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
if the list was based off of just stats then kscerato would be towards the top lol
2019-11-03 07:34
#50
Xyp9x | 
Denmark Khronov 
So just because stewie2k change role he deserve the spot than brehze, xyp9x, krimz etc??
2019-11-03 07:44
#37
 | 
United States Vollizie 
While you're not wrong still, at least use the right filter. It's much closer now. hltv.org/stats/players/compare/4954/Xyp9..
2019-11-03 07:37
-Stew deserves a spot in top 20 He play shit he just farms stats on tier 3 teams when he is against Tier 1-2 he gets rekted like a little bitch
2019-11-03 09:38
#93
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
he has one of the best impact ratings on TL
2019-11-04 01:21
#99
 | 
Japan eternaL_ 
He has 5 EVPs in big events this year. In top 20 stats against T2-3 teams aren’t considered important. Have you thought about why, for example, w0xic isn’t in this list?
2019-11-04 01:41
#53
 | 
United States Vollizie 
Stewie has 5 EVPs this year. Everyone underrates EVPs man. If he doesn't completely shit the bed the rest of the year, he is most likely making the list.
2019-11-03 07:46
#100
 | 
Japan eternaL_ 
+1
2019-11-04 01:41
Brehze?
2019-11-03 07:28
#29
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
#28
2019-11-03 07:30
#28
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
YES I KNOW I FORGOT BREHZE. MY BAD
2019-11-03 07:30
where would you have him?
2019-11-03 08:04
#87
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
5-7. kick out sergej and move everyone else down one spot
2019-11-04 01:14
#47
 | 
Australia yaboyazza 
>ence players OMEGALUL 1 lucky tournament based off broken weapon, alexsib was easily their best player too, have dropped off the face of the earth since
2019-11-03 07:43
#49
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
yes, ence players
2019-11-03 07:44
And on top of that #51
2019-11-03 07:45
LMAO NO KENNYS GAHAHHAHAHAHH
2019-11-03 07:45
#84
tarik | 
Brazil GuGa62 
LUL
2019-11-03 18:40
20. sergej surely MUCH higher 18. nitr0 wont be in top20 just bcs he is igl. 1.07 rating in big events, 1.05 vs top10 teams, 1.04 vs top5 teams, 0.97 in majors, 0 mvps and most likely also 0 evps. there were better players without a doubt 17. Jame most likely out of top20 for obvious reason. he just wasnt relevant enough to be there. only 27 maps in big events and 1.10 rating isnt special to boost him there 9. magisk higher naf above twistzz. same rating in big events but better rating vs top10 and top5 teams, 2 mvps vs , 1 more evp, higher impact rating no xypex? brehze? even players like krimz, jw or jkaem deserves top20 instead of some players in your top20 s1mple vs zywoo isnt close at all. zywoo all the way based on literally everything. 2/3/4 s1mple/dev1ce/elige is much closer...
2019-11-03 08:10
S1mple > Zywoo but Zywoo had a better year imo. S1mple Zywoo is actually very close, S1mple has better online, LAN and Major while Zywoo has better big matches. Zywoo tho has won more.
2019-11-03 08:20
"S1mple > Zywoo but Zywoo had a better year imo." hltv top20 isnt about opinions and online rating? rly? zywoo performed better, was more relevant, more consistent, better rating big events, better vs top10 and top5 teams, more mvps. no way that s1mple is better or that its close
2019-11-03 08:23
s0mple 2? 10 maybe but device/elige/zywoo/brehze 1-4
2019-11-03 08:14
how nitro is on this list and brehze isnt;...... I respect how it is an actually good list, not bullshit some users do, and even tho i think S1mple > Zywoo, Zywoo has had a better year. IMO: 1. Zywoo (This year) 2. S1mple 3. Elige 4. Brehze 5. Device Electronic missed out becuz like S1mple navi had bad year
2019-11-03 08:16
brehze above device? for real...?
2019-11-03 08:24
#92
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
#28
2019-11-04 01:20
#60
 | 
Romania decis1ve 
Coldzera???? Wtf man
2019-11-03 08:17
#61
Slovakia pgb1 
Simple is a bot
2019-11-03 08:20
1. dev1ce 2. ZywOo 3. s1mple 4. Magisk 5. EliGE 6. electronic 7. Xyp9x 8. Brehze 9. NiK0 10. sergej 11. Twistzz 12. Dupreeh 13. jks 14. Ethan 15. Krimz 16. NAF 17. woxic 18. gla1ve 19. Jame 20. allu
2019-11-03 08:33
lmao wtf did i just read
2019-11-03 08:36
What's wrong with it?
2019-11-03 09:09
do you rly have to ask? 18. gla1ve for what? 1.00 rating? 16. NAF this supposed to be a joke? easily around 7th place 11. Twistzz surely top10, probably 8th 7. Xyp9x for real...? he will be glad for something like 18th 4. Magisk 5. EliGE like what...? 1. dev1ce 2. ZywOo no way...
2019-11-03 09:19
Well I might be wrong but you seem to be a big liquid fan. - NAF isn't really that good I don't consider him a top10 player. - gla1ve is the IGL of course he's gonna have a bad rating, doesn't mean he's not a key role in why Astralis are #1. - TwistZz might get #10, but not higher - Xyp9x are you kidding me? He has the biggest impact in the team and lately he's been having some really good games. Surely he'll get in the top10 - Magisk is in fact better than EliGE skillwise, even if elige has a few more mvps than him this year. Not saying that he's bad but I don't think he'll get higher than 5 when you have zywoo simple and device in the picture. - As for dev1ce and ZywOo, this can go either way, tho I think 2019 is dev1ce's year
2019-11-03 09:31
"Well I might be wrong but you seem to be a big liquid fan." im not liquid fan and never was... "- NAF isn't really that good I don't consider him a top10 player." your opinion souldnt be relevant. ranking should be based on FACTS hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2019-01.. he will be without a doubt in top10, most likely 7th "- Xyp9x are you kidding me? He has the biggest impact in the team and lately he's been having some really good games. Surely he'll get in the top10" he will not bcs its based on STATS and in stats his impact rating is 0.96. he wont be higher than 15 "- gla1ve is the IGL of course he's gonna have a bad rating, doesn't mean he's not a key role in why Astralis are #1." hltv top20 is based on individual performance. he had pretty bad year and doesnt deserve top20 "- TwistZz might get #10, but not higher" most likely 8th "- Magisk is in fact better than EliGE skillwise" skillwise LMAO. elige performed BETTER, has more mvp=will be higher. who the hell cares about "skillwise" how do you want to even compare it? "- As for dev1ce and ZywOo, this can go either way, tho I think 2019 is dev1ce's year" then you are completely deluded and you shouldnt make any rankings...your list is HORRIBLE and your reasoning behind it is actually even worse(16. NAF bcs "i dont consider him as top10 player" AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA)
2019-11-03 09:41
u dont hf to be mad. Yh his list is pretty shit but why call him out and be toxic, just let him be
2019-11-04 21:41
bcs of his reasoning...thats why. if he would have normal arguments then ok but his arguments are completely retarded...and he was the one who started with that "you seem like a fan" while its actually him who is biased AF
2019-11-05 01:35
#83
 | 
United States 10YearBansRUs 
You know top 20 is mostly weighted towards statistics right?
2019-11-03 18:36
#68
 | 
Canada Michaelides 
Nt West Bulgaria
2019-11-03 08:51
S0mple 2. KKKKKKKKKKKKK
2019-11-03 08:34
#91
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
like i said you could make the argument for both s1mple and zywoo for #1
2019-11-04 01:18
S0mple 1. KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK are you even watching their matches ?
2019-11-04 06:17
#69
Zeus | 
Russia Mickeeey 
pretty good TOP, I agree with u
2019-11-03 08:55
#75
GuardiaN | 
Brazil Anux 
bot allu > cold/stewie/sergay/jame christ???? stop smoking cannabis man
2019-11-03 09:37
#90
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
hltv.org/stats/players/695/allu?startDat.. 1.1 rating and 1.15 kd while being the best player on a team that made the finals and deep playoff runs of multiple big tournaments. i think allu is underrated.
2019-11-04 01:18
#78
 | 
Brazil OOFmen 
0 out of 8
2019-11-03 10:02
#79
 | 
Poland Karmela 
1. Me
2019-11-03 10:03
Brezhe?
2019-11-03 18:32
#89
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
#28
2019-11-04 01:16
Brehze?
2019-11-03 18:33
#88
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
#28
2019-11-04 01:16
#85
 | 
Finland VekE 
1.xseven
2019-11-03 18:40
#94
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
YES I KNOW I FORGOT ABOUT BREHZE. I WOULD HAVE HIM 5-7
2019-11-04 01:23
#95
JW | 
United States Deso1ation 
Ok s1mple this year is not even top 3 honestly. Elige has been better, Zywoo is number one, device has been better and Brezhe has been better. S1mple has dipped anyone who fails to accept that is a clown.
2019-11-04 01:24
#96
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
s1mple is averaging a 1.29 rating on 1.39 kd at big events this year. the only other player who compares to that is zywoo (1.29 rating on 1.35 kd) and you're delusional if you think otherwise
2019-11-04 01:26
#97
frozen | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
MVPs count for a lot tho. Much better to get an MVP then put up big stats in group stage/quarters and go out which has been the story for Navi a lot of this year
2019-11-04 01:32
#101
JW | 
United States Deso1ation 
When u have less play time than the majority of players on the list those stats don't mean the same.
2019-11-04 02:59
*#0. xxxhoshi #-1. SPUNJ
2019-11-04 03:00
Good list but xxshoshi you liquid fanboy
2019-11-04 03:01
#107
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
i think you mean tier9 fanboy cloud9* oops
2019-11-04 03:24
No Brehze? Nitr0 and Cold don't deserve to be on top 20.
2019-11-04 03:03
#106
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
#94
2019-11-04 03:23
#109
 | 
France FrighTyyy 
Considering #94 it is a good list.
2019-11-04 06:33
krimz
2019-11-04 06:42
Xd
2019-11-04 07:25
Zywoo 0 big event :)))
2019-11-04 07:31
#114
ZywOo | 
France MrWowo 
4 mvp. But I totally agree that there is a reference event missing with a win and a mvp at the same time And the summit was for the time a very big event for Vitality. Liquid won almost nothing and we smashed them while we were top 11 For the ecs, we had a lot of luck, knowing that there was a lot of internal problem, but it remains a victory in the country of Alex.
2019-11-04 07:39
#119
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
ecs finals???
2019-11-05 05:22
Switch allu and sergej and we gucci
2019-11-04 07:36
where iz ropz dickhead
2019-11-05 01:38
#120
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
what have mouz accomplished this year
2019-11-05 05:22
lmao ur taking it up the ass without any statistics and achievements
2019-11-05 01:39
#123
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
i took statistics and achievements into account when making the list
2019-11-05 05:28
Not a fan of Astralis, but I am in favour of device to be Top1
2019-11-05 05:26
#122
 | 
Philippines xxxhoshi 
what puts him over zywoo and s1mple for you?
2019-11-05 05:28
Two Major trophies
2019-11-05 06:39
U can put jks higher up on the list he has been fucking insane. Stewie had been up and down but probably not higher than sergej, jks, or ethan he only just started to peform really good at esl one new york and after but not thorughout the whole year. U can probably put naf at 16 and jks at number 7. Hes just been a lot more consistent and putting up stats for renegades/100thieves constantly.
2019-11-17 05:49
16:00call it luck vs New England Whalers
call it luck
1.66
New England Whalers
2.17
18:00ECLOT vs EXORS
ECLOT
1.38
EXORS
2.96
11:00forZe vs Evil Geniuses
forZe
4.14
Evil Geniuses
1.27
Bet
Return
-
Login or register to add your comment to the discussion.