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CS GO Messi, who?
Uruguay AnthonyDavissss 
I'm talking about the best ever. A lot of respect for a monster like Pelé. This guy got 3 world Cup and scored more than 1000x. Although Messi is the most genius player ever. Who is the best ever in CS GO? Coldzera Dev1ce or F0rest Plz, explain why your pick
2019-11-03 22:08
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s1mple
2019-11-03 22:09
Loser cant be the best ever in any sport
2019-11-03 22:10
But still he had the highest peak ever.
2019-11-03 22:14
and winning nothing so he's not the goat
2019-11-03 22:26
messi didnt win world cup, so simple and messi easily comparable)
2019-11-04 10:47
Messi won CL and WC golden ball
2019-11-04 14:19
Ok, s1mple won esl and hltv top 1, same logic
2019-11-04 14:31
Coldzers he the namber 1 player S1mple how many major? Cc oldzera 2 major 2 hltv top1 Simpl3 no major no hltv top1
2019-11-04 14:42
nt pedro
2019-11-04 15:02
Messi how many WC?
2019-11-04 16:27
WC is not like Major, it is more like WESG. Majors are more like UEFA CL... And Messi has won 4x.
2019-11-04 16:40
WC is more prestigious than CL, it's the most important trophy in any footballer's career. CL is more like ESL One cologne, prestigious but not at the level of a major.
2019-11-04 16:41
U muslim learn to reading compression. FIFA = 1/4 year national team Clubs = 99% of time, they are the REAL team.
2019-11-04 17:11
Lmao fakeflagger racist retard 0/8
2019-11-04 17:18
U're right bro
2019-11-09 22:51
Fakeflagger spotted. Learn how to properly speak english before using american flag bitch boy.
2019-11-04 18:08
lmfao. "compression". fake flaggin ass mother fucker
2019-11-04 18:14
Iq checks out.
2019-11-04 20:48
#395
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India spiderCAKE 
Don't you yanks play football with your hands? lmao
2019-11-05 07:41
would say that country best < teams best just imagine niko bosnian, has to play with bosnian team instead of faze, where he obviously is 1000 times better
2019-11-04 20:55
It's not about the team, it's about the prestige of the tournament won, WC is the most prestigious in football just like major is in CS
2019-11-04 20:58
yes prestige yes. but still you have to agree that you play in a team for 90% of your time and for 10% for the national team in cs:go you have the same, just its wesg thats not important because its in china everytime which obv sucks. cs:go teams play 99% with their team and 1% with their national team ( if they even want to ) also champions league is with those teams who train the hardest and dont have to be national teams. wouldnt make sense if faze wouldnt be allowed to go to the majors, because everyone has a different nationality? WC is once in 4 years Champions Leage every year. major 2 times a year a major is 100% closer to the champions league than to WC. Edit: made some grammar mistakes im sorry, not my main-language xd
2019-11-04 21:15
perhaps, but a player in a team in csgo isn't as easily replaced like in football, add the fact that a sub is natural in a game like football wheras a sub in csgo impacts almost always negatively.
2019-11-05 13:43
so? we compare here the major to the WC and champions league, and when you disagree that the major is very close to the CL, then please write arguments for that. other than its "most prestige tournemant" I cant see another argument for WC. strange that you can better replace people in football than cs:go who would have thought that, but that doesnt impact the conservation about the majors compared to WC and CL
2019-11-05 16:09
since CL and WC teams are close to each other skill-wise, then WC would be a better fitting for a comparison for csgo's major since both are done having all regions covered. (fivethirtyeight.com/features/could-the-w..) as ref
2019-11-05 17:17
#321
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United States Minicin 
Saying WC is not like a major is the stupidest thing ive ever heard
2019-11-04 20:28
#339
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Spain elskio 
WC once per 4 years. Major twice per year.
2019-11-04 20:48
its basic logic team is not the same as country team niko would never win a wesg with a bosnian team like messi with argentinia niko wins with faze messi with barca. also 1 player cant make a huge difference in a 11-man sport
2019-11-04 20:57
delusional
2019-11-07 12:34
Messi will won the next WC,believe it or not. Messi is the GOAT,FUCK CR7
2019-11-07 10:11
#323
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Russia Islademuerto 
Xavi 2 world cups Messi 0 word cups Messi > Xavi
2019-11-04 20:30
Hahahahah Awesome bait for sure
2019-11-04 16:26
#386
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United Kingdom alcazar4 
lmao
2019-11-05 00:14
i see. logic is your thing. +1
2019-11-04 16:26
#385
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United Kingdom alcazar4 
+1
2019-11-05 00:14
Lmao, im not a s1mple fan but hes goat and best player to ever touch the game, no one can pass him, and well csgo is a team game so it cant be only his fault theyre not winning anything
2019-11-04 11:07
#136
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Russia Ypp1 
+1
2019-11-04 11:39
+1 anyone denying this has some sort of bias or agenda
2019-11-04 13:31
#174
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Poland Adisky 
Delusional Zywoo is better player than s1mple at his best and there are others to consider too
2019-11-04 14:12
Zywoo is only one year in the scene and hes already strugling with consistency, others arent dominating for that long
2019-11-04 14:17
#179
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Poland Adisky 
From what I watched he is way more consistent than s1mple. 2nd part of ur sentence is dumb and actually its the other way.
2019-11-04 14:16
From what u watched, well if its “best clips of zywoo” and “s1mple performing horribly” then im not surprised
2019-11-04 14:19
#187
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Poland Adisky 
Actually a lot of games and also a clip where other pros agree with it
2019-11-04 14:21
#201
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Czech Republic wellbi 
Care to share the clip with us?
2019-11-04 14:36
#203
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Poland Adisky 
2019-11-04 14:38
#208
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Czech Republic wellbi 
Out of 10 people, 3 chose Simple, 6 chose Zywoo and 3 of these 6 said that they chose Zywoo because of his momentary form. And few of them actually acknowledge the issue of Zywoo's longevity so far. ... The clip definitely doesn't speak about GOAT/Messi aspect of these players. So, I don't think the video is actually reasonable argument for the discussion at hand.
2019-11-04 14:54
#232
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South Africa nimmaJ 
It definitely is because the question at hand is if any player can match s1mples skill. If over half the interviewed players are saying that zywoo is capable of performing better than s1mple then that's case closed. Also you said zywoo struggles with consistency? Hes statistically the most consistent player in the scene... Lmao, im not a s1mple fan but hes goat and best player to ever touch the game, no one can pass him, ... well someone is currently passing him. S1mple is still #1 but to say that no one will catch him is bonkers, how could you ever predict that? People said no one would pass get_right.
2019-11-04 17:33
You're talking about peaks where s1mples peak last year was mountains higher than zywoos performance this year.
2019-11-04 18:11
#260
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Not really hltv.org/stats/players/compare/11893/Zyw.. Exactly were talking about peaks, and he stated that no one would ever be able to reach s1mple, yet zywoo is a rookie and is literally having a year that without s1mples 2018 would be considered the best individual year of all time. Logically if you compare s1mples 1st year to zywoos first year zywoo blows him out if the water so if zywoo peaks in the same way then his peak would also blow s1mples peak out of the water.
2019-11-04 18:16
Thank you for proving my point with your last sentence. /Close
2019-11-04 18:16
#263
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Are you dumb? Do you not know what "no one can pass him" means? Someone is literally tied with him individually in their rookie year of course he could theoretically be passed
2019-11-04 18:18
if zywoo keeps performing the way he does, he will certainly reach #1, but at this point hes still worse, and the fact that u chose to copy and paste my last sentence and ur arguing with it over and over again
2019-11-04 19:07
#287
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Lmao? The ignorance on your part is the fact that even if it's not zywoo someone will eventually surpass both their levels, that's just how evolution works.
2019-11-04 19:43
u know how evolution works, that somebody passes someone or something, this is the part that u obviously dont understand bcs u keep fkn saying "somebody will surpass them both, bleargs asdafg...." i used it just bcs nobody surpassed him since he reached the top so stop talking crap
2019-11-04 20:26
#305
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South Africa nimmaJ 
What? This entire comment makes no sense. Learn english
2019-11-04 20:20
thanks for advice, now give me some argument or u lost
2019-11-04 20:25
#312
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South Africa nimmaJ 
English please, cant argue with incoherent babble
2019-11-04 20:24
well what are u doing on hltv then
2019-11-04 20:25
#317
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Better things than you!
2019-11-04 20:26
i mean vitality will disband anyway, already announced
2019-11-04 20:28
#327
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Try harder
2019-11-04 20:37
Nt
2019-11-04 20:37
#334
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Pathetic kid needs the last word to feel good about themself, have at it
2019-11-04 20:41
lmao vitality fanboy who refuses to even read any arguments (saying 'mind ur english'), and repeats himself
2019-11-04 20:58
#353
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South Africa nimmaJ 
You didnt make any arguments that made sense in English after I countered your original point, try again and try much harder /closed
2019-11-04 21:04
interesting!
2019-11-05 18:20
flair checks out nt
2019-11-04 22:16
#363
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Oh poor child, you probably dont even understand the argument if you think my flair is relevant.
2019-11-04 22:26
poor child? hmm your flag checks out I guess
2019-11-04 22:39
#366
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Imagine caring about flags and flairs. True loser
2019-11-04 22:39
hes tilted so hard xD poor vitality fanboy
2019-11-04 23:45
#383
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Wow your life is truly pathetic. Gets destroyed and then proceeds to attempt to troll. I actually pity you
2019-11-04 23:53
lmao he just said ur favourite team is vitality and ur mad, calling him child, u should take a chill pill and accept that large group of people such as hltv forums can have different opinions on ur team
2019-11-05 00:12
#391
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South Africa nimmaJ 
And what is your opinion? Imagine thinking "flair checks out" is a useful addition to the conversation.
2019-11-05 02:04
It isnt, but its ur reaction which is really poor, my opinion is that theyre overrated especially zywoo
2019-11-05 07:18
#409
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Lol you're so concerned with me its actually a bit scary, but anyway its kind of hard to overrate a player when hes literally having the best rookie year ever seen and 5th is a pretty reasonable ranking for them. On top of the fact that you actually called zywoo inconsistent when hes doing things that only like 3 players have ever done is moronic. Your opinion is literally something that's countered by facts. It's okay to have differing opinions but they should at least attempt to be objective. Having the opinion that the sun is blue isnt very useful, same with calling the best rookie ever overrated. So my reaction is the issue when the only thing you had to add to the conversation was "tilted poor vitality fanboy" your lack of self awareness is amazing.
2019-11-05 17:59
English
2019-11-05 18:17
#415
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Correct.
2019-11-05 19:25
comparing 2 cheaters and deciding which one has "better consistency and form" LMAO
2019-11-04 18:17
#264
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South Africa nimmaJ 
0/8
2019-11-04 18:17
Stfu Burger king
2019-11-04 18:52
First of all it wasnt me replying and ur talking about peeks, in one year, s1mple is performing on the top level for 3 years now so kys
2019-11-04 18:51
#307
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South Africa nimmaJ 
And what makes you think no player in the future will ever play at the same level for 3 years, or a higher level for longer? Eventually it will happen, CS is a very young game.
2019-11-04 20:22
First of all it wasnt me replying and ur talking about peeks, in one year, s1mple is performing on the top level for 3 years now so kys
2019-11-04 20:23
#310
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Like I said, learn English. You've been outargued.
2019-11-04 20:24
nope
2019-11-04 20:24
#314
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Nt
2019-11-04 20:25
baited
2019-11-04 20:25
#318
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South Africa nimmaJ 
0/8
2019-11-04 20:26
0/8
2019-11-04 20:28
#332
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Okay you can have the last word
2019-11-04 20:40
0/8
2019-11-04 20:56
tbh i u watch other videos on this channel, lot of these pros are saying they dont watch almost any clips or demos, sooo
2019-11-04 18:57
#376
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Poland Adisky 
Imo they can get way better view on this bcs they experienced playing against both of them and have better knowledge of game so I think opinion of f0rest or Lekro are more important than pimp or divkstacy. Im not fan of eighter one but I feel like zywoo has better impact for team and everyone just look at kd ratio which isnt really important
2019-11-04 23:26
check this one aswell: youtube.com/watch?v=idtbcEVvvDQ three of them said yes, two said hes one of the best, but not ever, and two said yes if he keeps performing and improving, so its basically the same thing, what i mentioned, they focus on their own game and dont really care about other pros' performances
2019-11-04 19:12
Random hltv person who has no idea of what hes talking about: "zywoo struggling with consistency" Zywoo : i.gyazo.com/1e2a823fd867e16f7a4323b6da5a.. And these are his latest games, Not gonna screen shot the perfect streaks of huge numbers he put just before.
2019-11-04 15:08
Your picture captures the inconsistency... performing great against navi. Struggling against sprout...
2019-11-04 18:12
#265
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Lol pull up any other players match history and not only do they have more negative games but way lower peaks as well
2019-11-04 18:19
But see with your previous statement above. If it wasn't for s1mples 2018 zywoo would have the best individual performance. AMD the year is over for him to top s1mples performance being too far behind to top his stats in 3 tournaments? Plus he is a rookie meaning people don't know how he plays and how to work around it just like stewie back in the day. No one will ever top s1mples performance he is the best player to ever touch csgo.
2019-11-04 18:28
i love u random german
2019-11-04 18:57
I can't argue with him he contradicted two of his statements. Typical africunt
2019-11-04 19:58
#298
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Quote which comments contradicted each other. Seems you dont understand english
2019-11-04 20:14
The fact that you think you can predict the future Zywoo is definitely the latter Debating this whole time saying zywoos the best without s1mples 2018 would be considered the best individual year of all time.
2019-11-04 20:22
#322
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Because zywoo is the outlier, it's fair to make comments like that because no player has ever done what hes doing this early on in their career. All signs point to him getting better and evolving it would be, as you said, outlandish to think otherwise. I never said zywoo is the best, i literally I s1mple is #1 in one of the first comments you replied to. This argument is predicated on the comment "no one can pass him" people can definitely pass him and given enough time even if it isnt zywoo someone will, hell the GOAT of CS is probably someone weve never heard of when the game is said and done.
2019-11-04 20:32
The goat of CS is either Heaton, forest, or neo tbh Foredt and neo are the only 2 who have performed in both counterstrikes at high levels
2019-11-04 20:32
#325
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South Africa nimmaJ 
There could be 8 more counterstrikes for 50 years....how do you know that those achievements will hold up?
2019-11-04 20:33
Well obviously in the long run if more counterstrikes are made throughout time someone will achieve greater than the goats of CS but based on the original post the Messi of Csgo right now is s1mple Of all of vs right. Now is very clearly Neo vs Forest which has been said since 2016 Mple
2019-11-04 20:36
#330
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South Africa nimmaJ 
And I agree with that and tbh Neo vs f0rest isnt close anymore. F0rest outlived him. The point is to say that s1mple will always be the Messi is moronic, you cant know that.
2019-11-04 20:39
I never said always the OP asked who the messi of csgo is and it is cut and dry s1mple as of now. Zywoo wont over take him this year it is theoretically impossible unless he manages a 1.6+ rating in the last events. If he continues his run which is very unlikely as people will adapt to his playstyle he could next year but he is still far away from what s1mple did last year. A rookie normally performs much better their first year because he is unpredictable like stewie. And everyone sees where he went. Zywoo is more than likely getting hltv 1 this year but no one can predict where he will be in the following years. Device has cemented his stand as he's been top 10 for 4 or 5 years so far. Simple is going to get another top 5. Zywoo needs to show his worth after this rookie year to see if he can be talked about as a great.
2019-11-04 20:47
#349
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South Africa nimmaJ 
A rookie normally performs much better their first year because he is unpredictable I mean that's simply case to case. That's not always true at all. Some players get better throughout their career, some elevate their game to a whole new level, some drop off, hell some players just get more and more unpredictable. However, very rarely does a player breakout as the absolute #1 player as a rookie, that's special. It's much more likely that he continues then that he drops off. Also this conversation started when you replied to #232 which I clearly quoted "no one can pass him" from the user u agreed with. Keep up.
2019-11-04 21:08
It is very apparent that most rookies at the top level perform their best their first year. Stewie, Aizy, Apex, Nex, Ect have all shown this. People adapt to their playstyle and rarely perform at a high ceiling like their past. And yes you were stating peaks previously which s1mples 2018 peak Is higher than zywoos 2019 Keeping up? I highly doubt zywoo will be seen at this level next year. Remember one thing he's french and they always find ways to fuck their careers.
2019-11-04 21:14
#357
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Stewie is having his best year ever. Aizy and Nex were never consistent and neither was apex really, not the same way that the true GOATs were/are and that's just how entry fragging is. Zywoo is a star and is and always will be in star roles and all of those players rely on their aim way more than zywoo does. Zywoo is much more aware and has incredible decision making which you could never really say about any of those players. What about players like Tabsen, REZ, Elige, NAF, ropz, electronic, literally all of EG, who have just consistently gotten better since they were discovered and evolved their game? And at the same time what you're failing to realise is that those players may have popped off for a year and been considered for top 20, zywoo is popping off and has no one to challenge him for 1st. Theres a huge difference And that's the thing about zywoo, hes a no drama player. He loves the game and smiles almost every round. He doesnt seem like the type of person to get burnt out or burn bridges.
2019-11-04 21:57
But yeah forest did get that title. But when you ask it is always between those 2 as all of cs not csgo
2019-11-04 20:48
i see, but lets not sue his country for his crimes mens
2019-11-04 20:15
#285
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South Africa nimmaJ 
The fact that you think you can predict the future is hilarious people said the exact same thing about get_right and coldzera and then they fell off and new talent evovled. That will always be the case in sports. In some cases players have a breakout year and then they get found out and fall off in some cases they keep getting better, plenty of examples throughout all of sports. Zywoo is definitely the latter though, his game is too complete and comprehensive he can and does do everything well, theres not an aspect of the game that hes not already elite at besides maybe utility usage.
2019-11-04 19:40
It's hilarious peoe like you try to predict the future. You have zero idea if he is the latter this is his ROOKIE YEAR stupid African. You keep contradicting your own fucking statements. Are you aware of this or are you brain damaged?
2019-11-04 19:57
1 says he is the goat if it wasn't for s1mples 2018. Still trying to say he is the goat 2. I can't predict the future. Yet you make an outlandish prediction. So fucking stupid
2019-11-04 20:00
#296
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Quote where I said he was the GOAT. I said hes on s1mples level and easily has the potential to surpass. Imagine actively making things up when the entire conversation is in front of you. How is it outlandish when hes performing than any other player ever has in their rookie year? To say that its impossible is outlandish, it's quite possible
2019-11-04 20:13
Wow 0,-3,+13 "inconsistent" bitch please? everybody has a bad game once in a while and you know it but still acting dumb as fuck.
2019-11-04 19:30
#286
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South Africa nimmaJ 
+10 in a won series hurrdurr inconsistent
2019-11-04 19:41
Hurdurrr stepped up in 1 map against a tier 3 team hurdur imma contradict my own statements hurdur
2019-11-04 19:59
#295
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Right not as if I could find multiple worse examples for literally every other player this year
2019-11-04 20:11
Being considered the best player yes that is inconsistent against a tier 3 team. Then the underperformance against nip, and fnatic. Fnatic is expected they are good. Nip was utter trash
2019-11-04 19:54
From your point of view nobody is top 1 hltv, because i can give you so many examples of s1mple or other top players struggling against tier 2/3 scenes. look i made half a meme for you. i.imgur.com/igNxRLa.jpg
2019-11-04 22:19
awh your so cute. Im proud of my jewish pal :)
2019-11-05 18:16
+1 toxic bastard, but man he is amazing
2019-11-04 14:21
True
2019-11-04 14:26
#60
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Sweden LimeyGaming 
Yes, so did Balotelli (not the highest peak ever but still a high one). Look at him now. Toxicity killed his career, hopefully s1mples toxicity kills his.
2019-11-03 22:55
I have no clue about football sry xD
2019-11-03 22:56
#93
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
>Highest peak ever >Balotelli Lmao.
2019-11-04 10:33
#206
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Sweden LimeyGaming 
"(not the highest peak ever but still a high one)" Would be nice if you actually knew how to read.
2019-11-04 14:53
#214
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
Still a shite comparison and example :)
2019-11-04 15:52
#234
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Denmark bebm 
just like ur reading skills
2019-11-04 17:27
#271
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
Get lost dan. Proved numerous times how retarded and deluded you are.
2019-11-04 18:38
#272
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Denmark bebm 
u sound mad tired of everyone realizing ur a top 3 baiter on this site?
2019-11-04 18:39
#278
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
tired of everyone realizing ur irrelevant on this site ?
2019-11-04 19:08
#336
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South Africa nimmaJ 
But you're irrelevant in every aspect of life so whose really losing?
2019-11-04 20:43
#368
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
U since we are all on hltv and ur a bandwagoner of Vitality LUL
2019-11-04 22:58
#374
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Says the faze fan, welcome back to top 10 lmfao
2019-11-04 23:05
#375
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
At least Faze won a tournament 🤷🏿‍♂️, you can boast taking more than 10 rounds against Astralis lmao.
2019-11-04 23:10
#379
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Delusional kid ignores Vitality's many finals and multiple wins and hypes up a blast tournament. Theres a reason Vitality has spent way more time in the top 10.
2019-11-04 23:45
#244
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Sweden LimeyGaming 
Clearly you're just as shite at things as Lukaku.
2019-11-04 17:47
#270
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
At least he is not playing in MLS or stuck in some German club which can barely beat some shitty russian club lmao.
2019-11-04 18:37
#99
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Brazil |LUCAS1| 
Same with Neymar lmao
2019-11-04 10:37
Yess
2019-11-04 14:20
#101
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Poland Lukovsky 
hopefully? lmao what a frustrated jealous cuck
2019-11-04 10:38
#207
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Sweden LimeyGaming 
If that's what you need to think to make yourself feel better, good for you man.
2019-11-04 14:54
why do you think he is toxic ?
2019-11-04 10:54
he highest peak ever of football is Ronaldinho for sure
2019-11-04 12:21
#148
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Czech Republic realProkda 
The best technique had Ronaldinho the same as the best mechanical skill in CS:GO aka s1mple.
2019-11-04 13:18
Best mechanical skill ropz or twistzz
2019-11-04 14:20
#223
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Czech Republic realProkda 
no u
2019-11-04 16:26
Yes men :)
2019-11-07 10:06
i agree. mechanical and fundamentals would see ropz and twistzz higher than s1mple
2019-11-04 18:22
#337
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Nah maybe they look cleaner but s1mple is capable of hitting crazier shots with his flicky high octane aim and has better movement.
2019-11-04 20:45
It's because simple awps , his flickshots are insane but his movement and aim is not better than those two , in terms of rifling and pistols
2019-11-07 10:06
#459
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Nope s1mple has better rifle flicks and accuracy too. He literally achieved top 5 before even being an AWPer. And his movement is absolutely better than those two, the amount of practice he puts in doesnt allow it not to be, hes much better at baiting shots, peeks correctly more often and is simply more consistent. Just because their aim looks cleaner doesnt mean their mechanics are better it just means they have smoother aim.
2019-11-07 16:30
He got destroyed by zonic lmao wth are you talking about. Aim is just not aiming at the player it includes movement as well.
2019-11-07 18:20
#461
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South Africa nimmaJ 
He beat zonic and really your only argument is an irrelevant stand off match? "Aim is just not aiming at the player it includes movement as well." Dont know why you felt the need to tell me that, I said: And his movement is absolutely better than those two, the amount of practice he puts in doesnt allow it not to be, hes much better at baiting shots, peeks correctly more often. I think you should just move on
2019-11-07 21:05
#163
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Portugal Zedonp 
he has skill but is dumb, unrully and barely plays team football No coach can handle him and thats very bad when you play a team sport. At least when s1mple was extra toxic he was still the best in the world, balloteli was one of the best (like top20max) and threw it all away.
2019-11-04 14:02
HEATON IS GOAT THY YOUNG AND DUMB.
2019-11-04 00:52
kennys had the highest peak
2019-11-04 13:43
#20
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Germany GoBIG0rGoHome 
in terms of this messi is also a looser to not even be able to win 1 national team title cmon even ronaldo won 1 European championship with portugal lel
2019-11-03 22:20
#26
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Germany nasamens 
he's been playing with bots as players and cucks/retards as coaches
2019-11-03 22:26
same with p1mple
2019-11-03 22:26
#35
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Germany nasamens 
Idc about that, I'm talking about Messi
2019-11-03 22:28
Messi is one of the greatest winners in Football history. 10 La Liga 4 Champions And almost 30 titles left. Better average score and assists than any other legendary player, mainly in Champions League
2019-11-03 22:26
always same league. boring
2019-11-04 14:04
Theres nothing more boring than being champion with Juventus in Italy. Absolutely 0 competition for 10 years.
2019-11-04 16:16
Dont compare with a sore loser like S1mple.
2019-11-03 22:26
but then again, suarez>messi
2019-11-04 10:48
No Eminem
2019-11-04 16:17
Suarez goat
2019-11-04 18:00
Golovkin GOAT?
2019-11-04 19:22
M. Ali goat)
2019-11-05 04:35
ronaldo win 2 national title
2019-11-03 22:26
#38
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Germany nasamens 
Lmao Nations Cup isn't even something.
2019-11-03 22:28
but it's a title
2019-11-03 22:29
#40
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Germany nasamens 
Which is not relevant in a debate, period.
2019-11-03 22:30
it's like the other trophee in the time it's gonna be like the EURO trophee
2019-11-03 22:31
#45
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Germany nasamens 
French so good at producing absolute braindead people. No wonder why we crushed your country three times from 1870 to 1945.
2019-11-03 22:33
#81
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Portugal gl0wdaking 
Shut the fuck up, Nations Cup is relevant, and u just say that because germany got relegated, oh wait, FIFA just pulled u back
2019-11-04 00:54
#94
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
No it’s not. Nobody cares about it. But hey Ronaldo fanboys probably have it as Nations Cup > Euro > > > World Cup right ?
2019-11-04 10:35
i never say Nations cup are better than EURO or World Cup but Nations League is a new trophee and can be a great trophee in the future and where are Belgium trophee ?
2019-11-04 22:00
#371
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
Couldn’t give more of a fuck about sport where betas play LUL. And it’s boring AF. So no thanks, rather watch some cricket than soccer LUL
2019-11-04 22:59
Expected from Belseumique
2019-11-05 20:54
#421
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
Expected from a guy who geniunely believes shitty nation cup will be a “great trophee in the future”
2019-11-05 20:59
#156
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Germany nasamens 
flag checks out midget cuck
2019-11-04 13:53
jew
2019-11-04 10:30
#157
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Germany nasamens 
hairy midget
2019-11-04 13:53
jew
2019-11-04 21:48
portugal's squad is better than argentina's, and to note the euro 16 was the luckiest tournament i ever saw
2019-11-04 00:48
Still You have cold
2019-11-04 10:48
name checks
2019-11-05 13:31
[+1]
2019-11-04 12:00
#342
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Italy marxie 
S1mple is the ibrahimovic of cs
2019-11-04 20:52
Goat with 0 major I aren’t think that
2019-11-04 22:59
he's CL
2019-11-05 04:36
#2
God | 
Poland henlo 
michu ofc no one else is that small
2019-11-03 22:09
#14
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Romania wavyyy 
golden
2019-11-03 22:16
#137
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Russia Ypp1 
SANJI
2019-11-04 11:39
#4
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Turkey TrMan4161 
Xantares= Cengiz Under
2019-11-03 22:10
C'mon Turk friend, in english, plz
2019-11-03 22:11
#29
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Germany nasamens 
wtf
2019-11-03 22:26
#117
kuben | 
CIS mikj 
Wtf
2019-11-04 10:52
#248
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Russia Windcast 
:DD
2019-11-04 18:06
What about the CS Fergie Best coach
2019-11-03 22:11
Ynk, ofc
2019-11-03 22:50
#7
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Sweden Trkmag 
Neither of those guys is the best in GO, imo it's very hard to pick a best player ever in GO. But best ever is of course f0rest, most gifted player ever
2019-11-03 22:11
+1
2019-11-04 18:36
if you really put f0rest as goat of cs, you autimatically set-up for device for the one in cs:go imo
2019-11-05 21:40
#8
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Germany ToiletShitter 
Nobody really fits perfectly. You would have to use multiple csgo players to come close to that
2019-11-03 22:12
Pick one or some my German friend
2019-11-03 22:13
DeadFox = Puskás Ferenc
2019-11-03 22:13
xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa
2019-11-04 13:56
#12
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Brazil RockniiZ 
Surely Coldzera, no other player was the best 2 times in a row.
2019-11-03 22:15
Lmaoooooo get right ?
2019-11-03 22:15
#23
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Sweden Trkmag 
You ever heard of GTR? Would have been 3 if a row if HLTV didn't skip 2012
2019-11-03 22:22
>csgo >2012 pick one
2019-11-03 22:28
#66
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Sweden Trkmag 
Newfag checks out
2019-11-03 23:13
nt newfag
2019-11-04 10:50
Newfag
2019-11-04 18:15
ohh nonono
2019-11-05 21:48
#73
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Brazil hugoooo 
lol 2012 was a transition year... how would you judge who was the best in both 1.6 and CSGO (a shitty embrionary CSGO btw). In 2013 the level was still terrible, in 2012 it was even worse.
2019-11-03 23:51
#86
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Sweden Trkmag 
Yes ofc it was, otherwise they would never skipped it. The point still stands that GTR was the best that year
2019-11-04 01:00
Hate it or love it, facts.
2019-11-04 10:32
Wouldnt be even 2 if 2014 wasnt rigged. Kenny and jw were both miles ahead
2019-11-04 10:55
#139
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Sweden Trkmag 
??? The debate was between flusha and GTR in 2014
2019-11-04 11:55
flusha got robbed of #1 in 2014 FeelsBadMan
2019-11-04 14:03
"Who is the best ever in CS GO?" This mean all time of csgo, coldzera not close to the top just because he had two great years. If he do comeback to his former glory maybe in some years you could say, not a chance in hell he is the best now... only true fans would say this.
2019-11-04 14:18
oh my bad, learn 2 read! :>
2019-11-04 14:27
#15
Myanmar qeqd 
"goat" got 0 trophy with Argentina LOL
2019-11-03 22:16
#16
ZywOo | 
Brazil ukhcsgo 
ZyWoO S1mple Coldzera Device Forest
2019-11-03 22:16
shut up zywoo you are not goat lmao
2019-11-04 14:25
#377
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Denmark Nikolaim88 
Zywhoo barrelly good for a year. Not even close to Goat
2019-11-04 23:30
#17
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Denmark iTipe 
Easily Device. 4 major wins (2 of them major mvp). He has been top 5 in the world individually the past 4 years. AND besides that 14 mvps in total... Cold has what 8 mvps in total, 0 majors. Forest has 8 mvps 1 major
2019-11-03 22:17
Cold 2 majors tho
2019-11-03 22:19
Coldzera 2x major mvp
2019-11-03 22:20
yes
2019-11-03 23:32
#82
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Denmark iTipe 
sry didn't see it. Still doesnt change the fact that device goat.
2019-11-04 00:54
I think Coldzera and Dev1ce are tied. Coldzera most skilled and victorious as fuck. Dev1ce almost as skilled as Coldzera but more big trophies. My point of view. But I love F0rest titles, skills and his accomplishments too.
2019-11-04 00:58
#25
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Sweden Trkmag 
Flag and bait checks out with cold 0 majors
2019-11-03 22:23
#431
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Finland ToxicDUD 
What was dev1ce say 6-7 years ago? Nothing What was Forest 15 years ago Still Amazing
2019-11-06 13:27
#439
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Denmark iTipe 
I'm pretty sure this thread is CSGO messi not CS 1.6 messi
2019-11-06 17:20
#441
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Finland ToxicDUD 
well I think even tho the title is what it is it is just Counter Strike messi
2019-11-06 17:42
#446
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Denmark iTipe 
I refuse to say that forest ever comes close to being goat cs player. delusional
2019-11-06 20:57
#449
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Finland ToxicDUD 
but you are willing to say device? pathetic
2019-11-07 07:17
1000 goals, 700 against farmers and 300 against """pros""""
2019-11-03 22:19
Actually, Pelé has 757 goals in official matches, against these "pros". And about these "pros" you're talking about, like if they weren't professionals: Pelé had the exact same conditions than they had (he is not a time traveler), so he was a "pro" just like them. But because he was incredibly amazing, this creates the illusion that those players were not "pros", or that Pelé was the only "pro" in his time, as your statement implies. The fact is that he was, naturally, on a whole another lever of skill and everything else. If you'd put Pelé to train and do everything else like the players do nowadays, omg.
2019-11-03 22:41
+1
2019-11-03 22:57
Arab is still mad Latinos ran over the Muslim kings from the first caliphate.
2019-11-04 10:35
ShaGuar
2019-11-03 22:20
device cuz he's #2, just like messi
2019-11-03 22:22
What a rekt fin
2019-11-03 22:26
#34
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Germany nasamens 
ZywOo is going to be the Messi of CS:GO No one fits yet
2019-11-03 22:27
#168
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Denmark Bal0 
+1
2019-11-04 14:05
GuardiaN
2019-11-03 22:28
#41
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Brazil Eneas56 
f0rest for sure
2019-11-03 22:30
+1
2019-11-03 23:49
#44
fer | 
Brazil Flacky13 
correction: Ronaldinho Gaúcho is the most genius player ever, Messi sucks
2019-11-03 22:33
Flag
2019-11-03 22:37
#49
fer | 
Brazil Flacky13 
but im right, Ronaldinho is the only one who has a Champions League, a Libertadores, a World Cup and was considered the best player in the world
2019-11-03 22:43
0/8
2019-11-03 22:45
he is right, ronaldinho bestest, too sad he didnt last long enough, he was absolute maniac edit: just like s1mple)))
2019-11-04 10:53
there are a lot of players better than Ronaldinho in Football history for example: Maradona Messi Pele Ronaldo (Brazilian) Cristiano Ronaldo only Brazilians can think that Ronaldinho > Messi - lol it's a joke
2019-11-03 23:02
nt etoo
2019-11-04 10:54
nt Ronaldinho fanboy here are also few better players Zinedine Zidane, Alfredo di Stefano, Johann Cryuff Ronaldinho could be the best, but in futsal, he (Ronaldinho) basically played like a futsal player on a football big field lol, was doing too much useless tricks etc.
2019-11-04 13:28
Well, im xabi alonso fanboy, if that really matters me frend
2019-11-04 18:01
#46
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France bezooarts 
Skills = Simple Trophies = Device But Device is just a little bit under s1mple if you talk about skills So probably Device
2019-11-03 22:34
Device is miles under s1mple when you talk about skill device not even top10 most skilled players
2019-11-04 13:03
How can he still put up numbers when s1mple can't in some events? s1mple godlike mode he was last year ofc he is better, but overall device better imo. "miles under" rofl, are no such thing in csgo, cause it is such an easy game.
2019-11-04 14:29
device = godlike team, gets consistent solid frags can count on his team simple = nub team, gets flashy insane kills, has to be playmaker cuz team sucks ass
2019-11-04 17:21
Messi=Device: Won multiple tournaments, but fails to win for his country (copenhagen) C.Ronaldo=S1mple, Always training, Tryhard, really skilled but always complains on his teammates and considering himself the best. Pelle=Get_Rigth: The best player in the begginins.
2019-11-03 22:43
Device won in Odense tho home soil and was IGS as well I think he is the most consistent player in CS but always be 1 Guy with a better year sadly ;(
2019-11-03 22:51
Yeah, but i think that he really deserved the last year, and this year it's hard Cause Zywoo and Elige had been a good year, let's hope Device can Achieve the #1 this time.
2019-11-04 01:48
Yea think Zywoo gets it tho eliege deserves it more than him if he completely obliterate opponents last 2 months he might have a chance but they look very up and down rn sadly, Beijing hopefully his start
2019-11-04 10:36
+1 i hope devk1ng get it aswell #56 i agree second line, best consistent player in csgo easy, no one can even match him at all.
2019-11-04 14:31
Who would f0rest be?:D
2019-11-04 20:23
I think he would be Ronaldinho, no matter how old he is, every one loves him and he still shock us with his skills.
2019-11-04 21:55
Lobanjica is CSGO's Suarez
2019-11-03 22:43
Messi is simple, cuz he have no major
2019-11-03 22:46
Depends what you see as a major in football lol
2019-11-03 22:50
#96
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Slovakia sanjuro 
world cup
2019-11-04 10:35
But the company who runs that declared him best of the year.. and 2014 top scorer its a team effort he cant do all alone
2019-11-04 11:02
ye good question, I was comparing the most important championship in football that is the World Cup on CS:GO we have majors, so S1mple destroy everyone on local scene, won a several of important championships but never won a major and Maradona > Messi btw
2019-11-04 14:32
I dont think you can compare them tbh too different a scene its like a cs player compared to cs go player you dont do it..
2019-11-04 15:03
nope CL = the major in football. Who the fuck give a damn about national football? Only poland, brazil, germany, mother russia etc etc.
2019-11-04 14:35
Lets not do that now... Messi has done too much in his career.. Simple is the best CS player ok but has not won anything Device or flusha or someone from 2016-2017 brazilian dominant team But no 1 i the entire world should be labelled as CSGO's Messi or Football's f0rest...
2019-11-03 22:49
shut up slum dog
2019-11-04 14:29
shit s1mple fan tryin to prove a point that he is a guy who won everything no fucks given idiot.
2019-11-07 23:12
Letn1 for sure
2019-11-03 22:52
Pele scored more than 1000 goals?? nice joke in PRO career Pele scored like 757 goals best ever in CS GO is Dev1ce
2019-11-03 22:53
#59
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United Kingdom @VOSSKi_tv 
don't compare real sports to esports one is a complete joke
2019-11-03 22:53
var is a complete joke, especially var+epl refs
2019-11-04 10:56
s1mple is the best to ever play this game with NiKo and kennyS as a close second.
2019-11-03 22:59
#65
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Europe loonek4 
me
2019-11-03 23:00
#67
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Belgium ZxTox 
Olofmeister, no one is even close.
2019-11-03 23:17
#69
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Brazil jeduardo23 
coldzera, for their titles and their height
2019-11-03 23:37
#70
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Poland Shlatter 
idk but snax ronaldinho
2019-11-03 23:47
#102
Aleksib | 
Finland Mitzu 
Great comparison, especially since they both dropped off a cliff just as fast.
2019-11-04 10:38
+1
2019-11-04 13:27
Nope hes Adriano
2019-11-04 19:42
#72
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United Kingdom bigbbanger 
Olofmeister
2019-11-03 23:50
#74
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Germany MrEnricoo  
meyern for sure
2019-11-04 00:45
Messi Zywoo 75% talent 25% practice S1mple Ronaldo 50% talent 50% practice
2019-11-04 00:47
lmao zywoo, it's his first year and you want to compare him to messi who has already proven himself as a goat
2019-11-04 00:49
f0rest no other lived out career and hes still good cold needs time same w devv but he plays simple cs. knows the game and plays it well, but just k.d ratio
2019-11-04 00:52
#164
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Portugal Zedonp 
I would say f0rest is more like Ronaldo, won everything he could with his team and now is a bit washed up even tho he can still perform at pro lvl. Messi is def s1mple
2019-11-04 14:03
Messi genius, skilled and winner. S1mple skilled, loser and make his teams dead after he goes in. Nice try Manoel
2019-11-04 16:20
#364
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Portugal Zedonp 
The great winner of 0 throphys for his country. Tho had plenty of chances like s1mple to win major titles and failed.
2019-11-04 22:38
But Messi still a lot more skilled than players like Penaldo Younger Better goals and assists average More titles Better skills Nothing to argue against It, Manoel
2019-11-05 11:20
#399
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Portugal Zedonp 
Stop being salty retard, i'm comparing the best cs go player to messi and you dumb fucks still bring Ronaldo to the table Still the midget has: Less UCL titles Less UCL goals And also 2 less titles for his national team Less goals for his national team than Ronaldo as well
2019-11-05 13:25
Still midget Has only 22 goals less and almost three years younger Midget more average goals Midget has a lot more skills Midget more average assistis Midget has played a world cup final Midget was world cup MVP Midget was 6x the best player of the year Midget is again playing better than the Penalty kick king in 2019/2020 even being injured half of this season. When people talk about the best ever they always talk about midget but never mention Penaldo. I'm sorry
2019-11-10 20:58
#243
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Denmark Muamelele 
washed up lmao good one!
2019-11-04 17:44
Coldzera is just average good player who had a good team around him, s1mple has messi like skills but always bots to carry with
2019-11-04 00:52
S1mple, the great loser? 0/8 bait fin
2019-11-04 00:59
cold is better than s1mple though they're both major baiters but coldzera mastered baiting s1mple baiting is like random 80iq russian baiting very ineffective vs. good teams like astralis
2019-11-04 01:04
in CSGO olofmeister is the greatest if you consider everything
2019-11-04 00:56
Lots of respect for Olof besides I dont put him between the bests.
2019-11-04 01:05
Sry men im not knowing this football refrence so i cant answer
2019-11-04 01:53
ovechkin of csgo then lul
2019-11-04 10:58
if somebody calls it soccer be careful I Know where you live
2019-11-04 10:37
#100
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
Device as Messi ? He is not naturally gifted, he is not naturally talented like Messi is. Messi carries himself to all the Ws and trophies. Ecov2ce gets carried to that. How the fuck this kid is even being compared to Messi (just because he got carried by his teammates) is ridiculous. But who cares about soccer anyway ? #CMC4MVP #DangeRuss4MVP #Lamar4MVP
2019-11-04 10:38
#360
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Sweden Trkmag 
I think this might be the first KevinGatesYo post I agree with
2019-11-04 22:13
#372
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
I’m not KevinGatesYo wtffff
2019-11-04 23:00
#103
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Poland pimaZo 
F0rest or dev1ce, both skillfull and most titled players
2019-11-04 10:40
#104
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Turkey Lennon1923 
f0rest
2019-11-04 10:40
stop reading after CS GO Messi
2019-11-04 10:40
messi = s1mple Ronaldo = dev1ce Mbappe = ZywOo
2019-11-04 10:42
#107
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
Ronaldo = device ? Wtf device should be Vermaelen or some bench player who gets rewarded with trophies just for existing.
2019-11-04 10:44
s1mple He has a similarity with each other because he has always carried it like a messi. dev1ce, like ronaldo, has a special team called dev1ce
2019-11-04 10:48
#118
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
Well actually yeah device doesn’t remind of CR7 and team carrying him. But like talent and skill wise there is no soccer player similar to device. Device is not talented, not skilled, just a usual player that can be replaced with anyone of similar skillset.
2019-11-04 10:53
#236
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South Africa nimmaJ 
0/8
2019-11-04 17:28
Ronaldo= S1mple in your comparing. Ronaldo plays always top-level no matter what the team do. Both train and practice more than anyone. Both can Carry alone matches. Both maybe not the most talented guys ever but with hard work, they are better than anyone of this guys.
2019-11-04 10:52
soccer player around the world say messi is no.1
2019-11-04 11:05
It is a vote and only about the current year. Idiot. We talk about the best and Messi isn't even in top 5 over the last 70 years. Maradona > Messi. He isn't even the best in his own country
2019-11-04 14:05
+1
2019-11-04 14:34
u don't know soccer lol
2019-11-04 15:10
#373
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
CR7 fanboi LUL
2019-11-04 23:00
Messi isnt even the best ever. You wanna talk about the best ever, first start to think about who is the best in Soccer. Messi LUUUULLLLLL He never won sth outside of barca. He failed as a captain.
2019-11-04 10:49
??? XDDDDD
2019-11-04 10:51
#121
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
CR7 fanboi
2019-11-04 10:53
Say someone is the best cuz he wons stupid votes is retarded. When you compare Ronaldo and Messi (cuz both played at the same time) Ronaldo is better. He even won a big title with his national team and carried the team. Made history by winning CL 3 time in a row. When you gop back. Zidane is the next one. He won CL, World Cup and was a great captain + now a good coach. They are better than messi. messi is a very skilled player no doubt, but please He couldn't survive in another league or team. In his national team he shows that he is trash in other enviroment,
2019-11-04 10:56
of course ronaldo have more titles but individually messi was/is slightly better than ronaldo, in the end he will score more goals, he needs less time to score a goal, he waste much less situations than ronaldo just leave your cave kid, everyone agreed already, even rm fans, there is nothing wrong about that, messi is the goat and ronaldo is most likely 2nd after him, opinion of some wannabe wont change it
2019-11-04 11:00
Better? Ronaldo carried his teams alone. Messi needed xavi Iniesta. Soccer is more about how fast can you make a goal. Zidane as example nobody cares how much goal he made. He was amazing carry and leader. As I said Messi is useless trash and so bad that he never left barca cuz he knows he is overrated shit that will fail
2019-11-04 14:10
ahhh ok you are just mad little kid I see, nvm
2019-11-04 14:38
Messi is shit
2019-11-04 14:42
pele never played in any european club btw XDDD
2019-11-04 10:51
#120
kuben | 
CIS mikj 
Taz = Zinedine Zidane
2019-11-04 10:53
Zidane was not pure garbage tho
2019-11-04 10:59
#154
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Poland Hanse 
look at the shape of their heads tho
2019-11-04 13:32
f0rest coz f0rest. Has not more achievements than those ones but hes the only one who never gets old. He still shows high class perfprmance even if people in his age immediately gets kicked from team.
2019-11-04 10:56
#228
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United States RopzIsCute 
why not get_right mens))
2019-11-04 16:42
Messi GOAT of Football f0rest GOAT of CS
2019-11-04 11:07
Dev1ce /closed
2019-11-04 11:18
#138
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Brazil ValberBastos 
Most genius player is Ronaldinho Messi is the best argentinian ever, and the best player in the recent story.
2019-11-04 11:42
#141
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United Kingdom Breezeeh 
Device is more like Ronaldo tbh
2019-11-04 12:02
#142
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Brazil ValberBastos 
in this 3, my pick is cold why? 2x #1 Prime full aimer CSGO, smart playing... One of few baiters who is working
2019-11-04 12:06
Messi is s1mple. Incredible versatile skillset and even if you can see what's hes going to do, you can't stop him because it's so instinctual They are both also very consistent with carrying their teams but always go missing when you need them to truly step up
2019-11-04 12:07
#235
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Eh s1mple has literally had a top 3 big event rating vs top 10 teams for like 2.5 years now. I dont think that's accurate. Moreso the entire team just gets outclassed
2019-11-04 17:28
Skill wise they are close but Messi had so much more achivements. He just have one less ucl than ronaldo where s1mple has no majors.
2019-11-04 17:33
coldzera Former best in the world World champion 0x WESG champion (just like messi with the World Cup) South American edit: one guy carrying the whole country (just like Messi with argentina)
2019-11-04 12:15
From 1.6 OFC = F0REST CS:GO = we dont know, they are very close, but can be, coldzera, s1, dev1ce, so you want to know like "messi", so messi is very stable, he is on top since always... so, dev1ce is the better way, he have more mvp's on tournaments... and ofc will be #1 2019.
2019-11-04 13:14
#150
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North America 007DBR9 
f0rest, he's stayed at the top level of cs for such a long time and is so good that he is goat
2019-11-04 13:25
the most talented one dev1ce or NiKo
2019-11-04 13:26
#158
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France FrighTyyy 
F0rest, he has been great for a very long time
2019-11-04 14:01
dev1ce. not the most flashiest but the best stats ever by far. compared to anyone you want he wins it all.
2019-11-04 13:56
but messi is also the most flashiest
2019-11-04 17:31
I think you're not that right here. Sure, he has some flashy goals & skills but I'll put it like this. I can't remember a Messi goal but I remember an Ronaldo bycycle goal or a Zlatan goal. There are more flashier players than Messi so that's why i said device..
2019-11-04 20:38
#161
s1mple | 
Germany dr9zen 
xd
2019-11-04 13:58
Noone is at the level of messi in csgo
2019-11-04 13:58
swag
2019-11-04 14:07
#171
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Portugal Zedonp 
exactly like swag throw when messi missed that copa penalty that would give argentina the win
2019-11-04 14:09
yeah pretty much that
2019-11-04 14:10
#173
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Sweden Zeepter 
Well since we talk about messi he got the highest level for so long and some times he´s even more godlike and sometimes a bit less godlike, but still fucking awsome. Compare that to a csgo player and the answer is: f0rest
2019-11-04 14:11
f0rest hasnt been the best player for 10+ years, noone will ever be like that in cs
2019-11-04 14:14
f0rest was NEVER the best in ANY game.. what the fuck are you talking about? best in 1.6 was Neo, best in Source RPK and in CSGO sure as HELL f0rest it's not up there. dev1ce, olof, get_right etc etc.. these are in discussions for sure not f0rest.
2019-11-04 20:40
CR7 = coldzera Ibrahimovic = s1mple Messi = dev1ce Mbappe = zywoo
2019-11-04 14:12
#178
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Estonia naityflatroo 
NiKo
2019-11-04 14:15
Soccor sucks
2019-11-04 14:20
s1mple
2019-11-04 14:29
olofmeister
2019-11-04 14:30
Zonic
2019-11-04 14:35
Pelé didn't score more than 1000 goals in officials btw. Biggest fraud. One of the WCs he "won", he was injured in the first game and was out for the rest of the tournament. Stop making Pele better than he was. He had probably the strongest national team ever seen (at the time) to do everything for him. Pele is like device. BTW Messi of CSGO is s1mple. Pure ability, can do everything and his team continiously fails him.
2019-11-04 14:57
Nice bait. S1mple skilled and almost 0 relevant titles. And always make his teammates worse. S1mple is like Nedved at most.
2019-11-04 16:23
#233
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South Africa nimmaJ 
0/8 not even real arguments. Electronic became a top 5 player when he joined Navi. Flamie and guardian are just past their prime players with motivation issues.
2019-11-04 17:26
Hahahahah Shit bait of the year
2019-11-04 19:21
#289
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Delusional kid with no arguments
2019-11-04 19:45
Nice arguments NimmaJ Pick one!
2019-11-04 20:14
#302
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South Africa nimmaJ 
I picked AnthonyDavissss with 0 total arguments
2019-11-04 20:16
Hunden Zeus MSL
2019-11-04 16:18
FORSAKEN
2019-11-04 16:21
It would need to be someone who does things no one else can. Someone that maybe doesn't do that much most of the match, but wins insane rounds. It would need to be someone who can explode in games as well, instead being someone who is a beast from start to finish. s1mple dominates all game so it can't be him. Maybe prime Niko?
2019-11-04 16:24
No one. Device is the CR7 of csgo. Both are the most successfull players. But not as skilled as s1mple/Messi. Cold is like fat Ronaldo. Have great team achivements and individual awards but not close to device/ronaldo/messi. S1mple is like Ronaldinho, the greatest peak(maybe) but they don't have so much team achivement and consistency. We need someone has skill of s1mple and achivement of device to call messi of cs go.
2019-11-04 17:34
#242
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Poland Kleigen 
+1 Good comparision
2019-11-04 17:43
S1mple to faze. Please
2019-11-04 18:15
#404
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Portugal Zedonp 
But Ronaldinho won everything for his national team as well as club, the difference is he stayed at the top for a short period
2019-11-05 14:22
#240
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Denmark ddkk 
Who cares! Zywoo is the best!
2019-11-04 17:34
#241
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Italy CHEBBOxxx 
golden same clumsy midget
2019-11-04 17:40
#245
NiKo | 
Morocco royflord 
no one
2019-11-04 17:48
NEO
2019-11-04 18:07
#251
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Sweden Lagge15 
What is Messi the best ever at? If you mean football you haven't watched Zidane, Maradona, Pele, Cristiano Ronaldo, Puskas, etc!
2019-11-04 18:09
#254
NiKo | 
Morocco royflord 
yes sweden right
2019-11-04 18:13
+1
2019-11-04 18:14
Everyone got right to their own opinion and nobody can say their is the right one
2019-11-04 19:34
The goat of csgo? S1mple Goat of CS 1.6? Neo Goat of CS? Forest
2019-11-04 18:14
#279
Sakura | 
Japan Ron1E 
+1
2019-11-04 19:10
#267
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United Kingdom N5ljf 
s1mple - Messi coldzera - Ronaldo cold has more majors (champions leagues) but s1mple is still the better player
2019-11-04 18:25
dev1ce - cr7 sry
2019-11-04 20:43
#443
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United Kingdom N5ljf 
yeh i can agree with that, so s1mple r9?
2019-11-06 19:56
Bale mb
2019-11-06 21:06
coldzera more like Neymar, so good, won things but always weird things happens
2019-11-04 23:50
#442
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United Kingdom N5ljf 
but is broky mbappe?
2019-11-06 19:49
magisk/elec mbappe broky boy from the yard
2019-11-06 21:05
#297
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United States caliprep 
Coldzera ROFL! Hes a classic baiter.
2019-11-04 20:13
#301
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France SplasHg0d 
ZywOo
2019-11-04 20:16
Graham "messioso" Pitt
2019-11-04 20:18
messi of csgo is dev1ce, best overall in 2014-2019
2019-11-04 20:39
yes +1 goat of cs:go is device, if you count consistency, player-achievements, top tier1 > skill s1mple is not as long good like device. but s1mples peak skill is higher than device. I would count device goat of cs:go and f0rest overall cuz he is there since 1.6 and still is relevant. also if you say f0rest is the goat of CS:go then you autimatically say that device is the one for cs:go since f0rest was never really the best player, get-right and neo outperformed him heavily. like cold or s1mple has with device ( still was top2-3 player of the year )
2019-11-04 21:01
#401
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Portugal Zedonp 
s1mple also started 2 years later and didn0t stay with the same teammates for more than 2 years So its easier for device to stay in the top than it was for s1mple. Still s1mple is the most skilled cs go player, but the best overall is device
2019-11-05 13:30
I think when you change your team as an top player, than you go to a better team, which is the case with niko for example. a very good player in a shit team (mouz) goes to faze and became top3 instantly changing the team actually benefits TOP tier players like s1mple ( if he would do that ) rather than staying with the same bots over the time. getting consistent in top3 is the hardest thing to do in cs:go, its "easy" to get to top1, but staying relevant like the core with dupreeh, device and xyp9x is almost impossible, since no one comes even close to them with a core. since tsm days they were almost every time in the top10, spending 95% in top5 at least. most dominant team and most consistent core ever. I can also understand your point, but imo its harder to stay with the same team more than 2 years, than making a change, since many players lose their peak in those 2 years.
2019-11-05 16:16
#416
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Portugal Zedonp 
Nah, i agree with you, its just that in cs, rooster changes usually mean an adptation and tatics making period, and changing from NA to EU is a big change. Also the astralis core gives alot of stability to device. Imo device is by far the best cs go player, so many years as a top rated player and this last 2 years have been insane for astralis (and i'm an astralis hater) I just think s1mple has the highest skill ceilling and peek
2019-11-05 19:52
#347
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Israel Trust_me_bro 
ZywOo
2019-11-04 20:57
#351
NEO | 
Romania Ciubuc112 
Olof
2019-11-04 21:03
skillwise zywoo is the best we have goat literally says it of all time, and thats device. if you go by skill only, then probably zywoo > s1mple > coldzera > ... but that doesnt describe the goat for me.
2019-11-04 21:03
if 1.6 + csgo so f0rest no doubt
2019-11-04 22:40
coldzera + device goats
2019-11-04 22:57
#378
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Germany JoooookER 
s1mple
2019-11-04 23:33
s1mple, always the goat but cant win the whole thing :U
2019-11-04 23:48
#387
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Slovakia itsab8 
>implying that Messi is the best football player lmao
2019-11-05 00:17
#388
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Turkey ensaRRRTokyo 
ofc coldzera you know messi is the best player he is the best for dribling freekicks for everything also cold can play with awp rifle pistol like a monster cold won everything that one cs player can win
2019-11-05 00:19
#400
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Portugal Zedonp 
So did device and device is atm a better awper rifler and pistol player, and also b4 cold won eerything Device was already a top5 player 2 years ina row If you want to talk about skill than S1mple is the most skilled, if you want to put more value in consistency than device is the best Cold is only top5 of all time imo
2019-11-05 13:28
#389
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Poland Kaja 
forest?
2019-11-05 00:20
#390
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Hungary raffai 
Nobody cares about Messi, Cristiano is the GOAT
2019-11-05 00:40
Asks for best player Answer: s1mple BuT hE hAsN'T wOn a MaJoR???
2019-11-05 07:43
#398
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Bosnia and Herzegovina V3DO 
Nobody
2019-11-05 12:32
#408
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Portugal MR_CAL 
messi is not the GOAT, CR7 is. coldzera is the goat of csgo, so i would compare with cr7. they won everything zywoo is the most talented player i have ever seen playing csgo, so we can compare him to messi.
2019-11-05 17:21
But Messi still have more trophies, MVPs, average goals and assists than Ronaldo. And Messi lose a world Cup final in the last minute for Germany.
2019-11-05 18:32
#417
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Portugal Zedonp 
More trophies in laliga only. Ronaldo has done more for his country and has more UCL titles. Also Ronaldo has more national team goals and UCL goals. Tho imo Messi can be compared to s1mple while Ronaldo is more like F0rest
2019-11-05 19:55
But S1mple is a loser. And Messi is a lot better than Penaldo
2019-11-05 20:09
#419
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Portugal Zedonp 
Messi is also a loser he is the UCL ghost and Copa thrower
2019-11-05 20:10
4x UCL 10x La Liga 8x Copa Del Rey 2nd in 2014 world Cup and world Cup MVP More MVPs than any other player in the history Better average goals and assists than any other Legendary player If he is a loser, Penaldo is a nobody!
2019-11-06 00:40
#430
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Portugal Zedonp 
MVP is always given or most of the times given to the best player of the losing team MVP's just prove how much of a loser pessi is
2019-11-06 13:25
Oh, 0 arguments
2019-11-06 14:22
#435
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Portugal Zedonp 
2nd in 2014 world Cup and world Cup MVP Great argument besides what are we even discussing here dumbass?
2019-11-06 14:28
Have you read It ALL weirdo bullied Manoel?
2019-11-06 14:46
#428
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Europe Vallon3 
Lol, portugal fanboying his countrymen and the favela that speaks his language. What a surprise.
2019-11-06 00:49
#445
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Portugal MR_CAL 
i was born in germany lmao
2019-11-06 20:15
#414
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Argentina kongro 
device
2019-11-05 18:33
#424
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United States highlandyirr 
device. anyone that doesnt say device is just wrong.
2019-11-05 21:49
xantares is a ronaldo, machinee
2019-11-06 00:43
Nice pick Turk
2019-11-06 12:10
#427
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Europe Vallon3 
Definitely not baitzera. The guy is a fraud. Could be devve, but I dunno... while he was constantly competing with the best, he never actually won much before Astralis peaked. I also don't really see him as a genius, a ''consistently good awper'' fits him much more. f0rest would be a good pick, it's just hard to classify him as the best since NiP had a steady decline after 2015. Like... really bad. It's either device or f0rest.
2019-11-06 00:48
#432
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Brazil gzkk 
s1imple the most skillful player coldzera he the namber 1 player
2019-11-06 13:32
#433
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New Zealand Karre127 
I'm gonna go outside the box and say olofmeister, only because he has the most achievements as a player, he has two majors and has been top1, deffo GOAT.
2019-11-06 13:35
device because of his insane KD ratio and won so many majors and other teir 1 tournaments
2019-11-06 16:08
#438
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Brazil gtaube 
Devveking of course And yes, Messi is bigger than pelé
2019-11-06 16:13
#440
sLowi | 
Finland tonzi 
He has yet to come.
2019-11-06 17:24
#444
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United States codgun 
ryann of course
2019-11-06 19:57
#450
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Canada kniGhtlife 
Kind of hard not to say f0rest on those 3 OP selections... He's been playing pro CS since dev1ce and coldzera even knew what CS stood for, lol...
2019-11-07 07:21
s1mple by far
2019-11-07 10:09
HIKO. Anyone that says he isn't doesn't know CS
2019-11-07 10:10
me probably
2019-11-07 10:12
First off take Device out and add s1mple then take Cold out and add Zywoo
2019-11-07 10:16
Messi GOAT
2019-11-09 22:46
Messe TBE
2019-11-09 22:48
#466
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Ukraine martnlo1 
After 4 times 0-16 from coldzera, i think he is csgo messi
2019-11-09 22:56
NEO, get_right or olofmeister
2019-11-09 22:57
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