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Denmark ur sick
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Turkey VeryFriendlyTurk 
Danish people get free University, and also 400$ every month and thats just for 18 yr olds staying at their parents where food gets payed and where u can play CS without working. Wow man what a fucking gr8 country, i am jealous
2019-11-07 15:36
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rko | 
Saudi Arabia WWF 
Tax country
2019-11-07 15:37
well, look at the standard of life in Denmark compared to any other country. You'll never be able to compare Denmark to a superior country in terms of happiness, and economy is decent as well. Tax is divided so it makes sense, it's not like in the U.S where you're in dept for life after being bitten by some stupid snake or breaking a leg
2019-11-07 16:10
Tax country
2019-11-07 16:47
And they are proof it works.
2019-11-07 17:11
Thanks homie
2019-11-07 17:20
The quality sucks big time, school isn't that good and my mom, my sister and myself have all been forgotten in the hospital system, I mean what are the odds of three persons in a family somehow get lost in the system? I called the tax authorities once when I had an important question and was on hold for an hour.. They put up speed bumbs and stupid trafficlights and moronic roundabouts everywhere because they need to use the budget so they get at least the same next year. And the list goes on and on... I'd rather pay very little tax and pay for the shit myself, so I can choose who's good!
2019-11-14 14:51
not a fact
2019-11-07 17:56
Because?
2019-11-07 17:56
#222
HUNDEN | 
China ene1nz 
Tax country)))
2019-11-07 19:07
#231
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Estonia MorsAlbum 
true.. tax kantri ...
2019-11-07 21:25
kantri röads
2019-11-09 00:09
teka me hum
2019-11-09 00:16
Tu de ples A bilong
2019-11-11 12:29
It only works if you can trust the government to spend the money wisely. If the government doesn't use the money to create more jobs and more wealth and health for the citizens, then it doesn't matter anyway, and it's probably just going to make the elite richer and create a larger gap between the rich and the poor.
2019-11-11 10:07
Yes, so you need a good democratic system with very low corruption.
2019-11-11 11:11
And a country that actually supports and prioritizes the wealth and health over liberalism. But if you've been sold the idea of liberalism from the day you were born, then it's difficult to change the whole system, because everyone will criticize it. I often hear about non-danes who want their country to be more like Denmark, in specific areas, but have no desire to actually do what it takes to be a country of that standard. You can't get both worlds.
2019-11-11 11:24
True.
2019-11-11 11:26
And of course, if Turkey has 22 % income tax and 8% VAT and even 1 % VAT on some items, then if they were all raies to respectively 42 %, 25 % and 25 %, then they would have a whole nation of unsadisfied citizens, demonstrations, riots, and poor people not being able to even pay rent. So I do understand their frustration.
2019-11-11 11:37
Depends on what the state did with the money.
2019-11-11 11:44
Exactly, but with Turkey's current and historical situation(s), I'd say that they don't trust the government very much
2019-11-11 12:27
#208
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Denmark Xipingu 
It works for Denmark. That’s a fact. Whether or not it works in general, can’t say I care
2019-11-07 18:45
not talking about how it works, but if it works on people in general.
2019-11-07 19:59
#406
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Denmark Xipingu 
Alright.
2019-11-09 08:39
#418
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Finland Shall157 
Denmark is in a lot of debt like we are. It’s just a question of when.
2019-11-09 16:48
#423
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Denmark Xipingu 
Not really, it’s been like this with debt for years and reforms has already been made, but not much impact. Besides, the high level of education would dive if the model is removed, because of how the country is structured. They would have to change the core foundation then, something that I am afraid won’t be possible without causing a civil war.
2019-11-09 18:20
#424
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Finland Shall157 
Nah the Nordic countries are in a lot of debt. You can check out the debt clocks.
2019-11-09 18:21
#427
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Denmark Xipingu 
Fair enough, but it’s the same issue, it can’t be changed without a massive backlash from the citizen.
2019-11-09 20:08
#428
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Finland Shall157 
Yes and we need to stop giving so much money
2019-11-09 20:26
#429
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Denmark Xipingu 
I guess it’s because they are holding the idea hostage with saying that healthcare wouldn’t be free if we give less, then again rich people are willing to lie about everything to keep their gold.
2019-11-09 21:10
#430
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Finland Shall157 
I wouldn’t say that rich people are the problem.
2019-11-09 21:32
And yet countries like USA and UK have way higher external debt, really a nonsense argument
2019-11-10 19:44
#443
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Finland Shall157 
Doesn’t chhange the fact that we have to change our social benefit shit. It’s only getting worse and i’m not defending the US.
2019-11-10 21:16
A really solid and intelligent argument, we really need to change our "social benefit shit". Great stuff.
2019-11-11 09:45
#452
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Finland Shall157 
Yep
2019-11-11 10:11
agreed, shit post tbh. i wish i lived in csgomark
2019-11-08 21:26
#405
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Denmark Xipingu 
+1
2019-11-09 08:39
#170
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Sweden wyv0 
All countries have tax my dude. Are you an anarchist?
2019-11-07 17:50
Oil money.
2019-11-07 18:27
What oil money? Brazil has more natural resources per capita and you are 3rd world mess with sky high crime rates and corruption that spreads into every level of life.
2019-11-07 18:40
But Qatar has a lot of oil.
2019-11-07 19:17
#232
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Estonia MorsAlbum 
imaging thinking that retarded population in a country doesnt matter with how far a country gets/how first world it is like brazil has everything in their favour to be a good first world country, but the people are fundamentally not there
2019-11-07 21:26
#181
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United States jay_320 
Do people in Europe really think a snake bite or me breaking my leg is going to cause me to go into Debt for life? Get some health insurance bro. 90+% of Americans have it.
2019-11-07 18:02
#233
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Estonia MorsAlbum 
isnt it expensive as fuck tho? most other first world countries/europe has free healthcare unless u earn a lot, and by then it doesnt matter to pay for it isnt it for EVERYONE in america regardless of income you have to pay for it?
2019-11-07 21:27
#236
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United States jay_320 
The vast vast majority of people get it "paid for" by work. Which is essentially just sharing the costs 50/50 with an employer. I don't know anyone who buys health care aside from really rich people who want the absolute best or people who fall into a pool between the safety net (medicaid) and not being at a job that offers health care. Which I've never run into but I'm sure exists. Then there's that 5-8% "underclass" number that isn't really apart of society in the way we think about society. Not that these people should be forgotten of course but there's generally something disqualifying them from receiving medicaid and it's probably not a good thing.
2019-11-07 21:31
#237
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Estonia MorsAlbum 
fair enough, but its still you technically paying for it even if its "paid for" by work which is basically just reducing ur income as if ur paying for it anyways
2019-11-07 21:32
#241
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United States jay_320 
Yeah it's like being taxed. I feel like I just hit my tail wtf.
2019-11-07 21:38
#242
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Estonia MorsAlbum 
excuse me
2019-11-07 21:38
#243
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United States jay_320 
Something about the company paying half versus paying through the government just got me thinking real circular. Not you bro.
2019-11-07 21:39
#244
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Estonia MorsAlbum 
what the fuck is that phrase tho
2019-11-07 21:40
#245
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United States jay_320 
Dogs chasing tails etc
2019-11-07 21:40
#250
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Estonia MorsAlbum 
so its some fucking weird ass way of saying epiphany or realisation or what
2019-11-07 21:44
#251
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United States jay_320 
I'm pretty sure it'd be understood in person. It's more of a sarcastic way of saying I had a realization.
2019-11-07 21:45
How does it work when you get laid off though. Jobs change, economies change etc
2019-11-08 18:21
it depends, the more premium you pay less you have to pay out of pocket
2019-11-07 21:32
Tell us about co-payments. I have friends in US with health insurance where a simple doctors visit still can cost $1.000, simply due to co-payments since having to cover some lab tests and so. And also those health insurances can run out and if you change job and suffer from something chronic, then good luck getting coverage - that is whats called pre-exsisting conditions and that is you then better not change job. People in the US go bankrupt over medical cost and it is not uncommon. In fact it happens to more than a half million people every year and maybe even significantly more than that! thebalance.com/medical-bankruptcy-statis.. That is a non-issue here, the same goes for people buried in student debts for decades.
2019-11-07 22:27
#292
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United States jay_320 
Half a million people is not a lot in a nation of 350 million. Regardless Co-Payments generally work like this. I go to the doctor and I have a 30.00 co-pay (currently) to see my general. Say he wants me to see a specialist. Well the specialist may be a 50.00 co-payment. Or it might be free for both depending on my insurance. Same goes for prescriptions. I have no clue where you would be paying 1000.00 dollars for a doctors visit. You can't be denied insurance because of pre-existing conditions. That was fixed with Obamacare. I also may be working down a deductible. 1500 is pretty standard on decent-ish insurance. Good insurance doesn't have a deductible. This may be where you are coming up with the 1000 dollar number. Maybe you are paying that for an MRI with bad insurance. In that case I would have 500 left before the insurance kicks in and pays for everything. Plans with deductibles are generally taken by young people because they are less likely to get sick and they stop you from going broke if you really get hit by something. At any rate health care is still an issue here. The problem is that if you completely dismantle the profit motive then a lot of the really great drugs that have been developed over the last 100 years simply never existed. You are also taking the job of every single person that works at an insurance company. The problem if you continue on as is, is half a million people a year go broke from it like you mentioned. Student loan debt I'm not going to get into. Most people I know paid their student debts rather easily. Some people have tripled it and drive BMWs. Not even kidding on the last part. Generally I don't feel for people with student loan debt. They generally come from affluent families in the first place and if you graduated then you have an "in" in whichever field you are looking to go into. Sorry I write fast.
2019-11-07 22:56
No need to be sorry. I certainly is not one to judge on grammar or spelling :) Good info in general. Now on the bankruptcies I do not understand how you can see half a million people a year as a low number. Yes, that is out of 300+ million however most likely many of those half million or more have families, so many more people a put in dire straits due to those bankruptcies. And on top of that there must be many more that are close to bankruptcy and/or having to stay in jobs that suck since their insurance comes with the job. And this must be compared to 0 people here in Denmark, if we had a similar issue it would be almost 10,000 Danes per year going bankrupt. And it is the same in most of Europe and really most countries on the globe. However in a way everyone really should thank you guys for having such an expensive health system, there is no question that you help fund the development of medicine and more which we also get to use.
2019-11-07 23:55
#310
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United States jay_320 
Yeah it's absolutely not a perfect system. Also I'm biased like anyone. I live inside the Beltway. (I.E. within 5 minutes of DC) I'm not around people who declare bankruptcy just generally. It's not that I wouldn't like to fix the issue. But I feel like you have to get into politics past this point and I just can't get into it atm. We have a criminal president, two democratic candidates running just left of Stalin and an old guy who has trouble speaking in public. And despite being a democrat I have an issue with taking all the private money out of medicine. Number one you're going to lose a lot of jobs and number two not as many drugs will be developed. I don't know who is going to slice that down the middle where people have easy access to care and people are able to keep their jobs and make money for their brilliance.
2019-11-08 00:02
Like reading your comments, all of them. Insightful and nuanced :o)
2019-11-09 15:42
Maybe Dr.Phil charges you 100,000$ for a visit?
2019-11-08 09:18
#375
emagine | 
Turkey hwop 
can you inform me about healthcare system in USA, i really don't know about it such as state hospitals. Are opportunities good for you?
2019-11-08 21:32
isnt the vast majority of us debt healthcare related?
2019-11-08 23:49
In the US insurance is cheap as fuck thats why the system is currently fucked. I would prefer the US system with a 100% profit cap over any form of public healthcare.
2019-11-07 21:41
#284
TaZ | 
Poland Czeczen 
debt* but agree many people underrate denmark in best countries threads easily top3 if not better -rapefugees and ez top1
2019-11-07 22:43
#307
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Bulgaria goshyy 
Well Norway is better than Denmark but Denmark is also an amazing country. The quality of life in Denmark is outstanding but unfortunately the quality of life in UK or Bulgaria ain't that good :c
2019-11-07 23:58
You get 400 euro a month because your 18?? ??????? Explain please
2019-11-08 15:45
#362
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Denmark hersej 
If you dont have a job and over 18 i Think You get paid not sure do
2019-11-08 19:13
Damn I am moving to Denmark! Turning 18 next month and I want the FREE €400 ;)
2019-11-08 23:22
You get something called SU statens uddannelsesstøtte. Which means that when you study you get some money per month usually around 500 dollars. If you live home. If you moved out you get more.
2019-11-09 00:14
Ahhh, thats the same in The Netherlands. But here it depends on your parents income what you get. Lets say my parents have a business I get €480. If my parents work regular job I get €80-400 depends on income. If 1 of my parents work €200-400 and if my parents dont work I also get around €500
2019-11-09 10:31
Lol huge lie. You only get 130 euro if you live at your parents. 500 dollars is if you moved out, and I actually think you can get an extra bonus based on your parents' salary
2019-11-09 19:51
#350
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Finland Stackman 
+1 for Denmark guy. Northern european countries tier 1
2019-11-08 18:22
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah poor us
2019-11-08 19:04
#412
zonic | 
Denmark Hulvin 
Denmark is goat...
2019-11-09 10:33
#471
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Netherlands Im_gaaayyy 
Debt*
2019-11-15 11:21
You hairy arab.
2019-11-07 21:55
funny, and I can bet that I can get more pussy than you lmao, fat swed
2019-11-07 22:17
#280
rko | 
Saudi Arabia WWF 
thanks kardesh
2019-11-07 22:32
Im actually super hot, but i do not sleep with girls since im a faggot.
2019-11-07 22:56
Lmao
2019-11-07 23:52
#2
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Denmark nrth_LUL 
cry is 400 a month
2019-11-07 15:38
with 400e u cant live normally men
2019-11-07 15:43
400e is enough for rent, utilities, food, etc?
2019-11-07 17:42
not if rent cost 700€
2019-11-07 17:43
right, so what does 400e really equate to? is that a lot or a little? sorry for being naive, just don't really know the cost difference among countries here my rent is $1200, plus utilities, car payment, food, etc each month. 400e (~$441) would pay some bills, but it's definitely not even close to being enough to live normally per month
2019-11-07 17:45
its very little amount, usually rents are around 900€ for small apartment in helsinki (expensive) so with 400€ u cant even pay ur rent so u go homeless 😥 but if u are a student living with parents 400€ per mont is rly nice
2019-11-07 17:51
i'm actually pretty surprised they still issue the monthly stipend to people who are not the main homeowners, such as children or other dependents, because they don't really encumber any real costs to live. interesting system for sure
2019-11-07 17:57
#286
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Sweden LimeyGaming 
It's to encourage further academic results. At least it is in Sweden, and nordic countries are generally the same along those lines. Our students (wether it's middleschool, highschool or university level) gets a certain amount of money, which requires them to pass XX amount of "points"/classes in school. Aka, get passing grades = get some money. Fail enough or be non-attending and it gets reported and that money will no longer be available to you until you prove for a certain amount of time that you can handle the studies again and take it seriously.
2019-11-07 22:41
o wow i didn't know there were direct connections to performance in school. that's a pretty cool part of it, lots of incentive for sure
2019-11-07 22:55
I think the pay is lower if you live with parents. We just have a lot of cheap high quality apartments for students.
2019-11-07 21:58
It is more that the pay is higher for those that do not live with their parents, like double or so. As a student one can get by on the money you get from the state, but you have to be smart with your money and also not live in an expensive place. Most students work a few hours on the side to get extra cash. As a student you can also get really cheap loans, so cheap that I know some which loans money and invest them in order to have down payment for a home when they are done studying. When done studying the must repay the loans only they are so cheap it is almost free loans*. *Almost free loans is btw. sort of the standard now. My mortgage on my apartment has a negative interest rate of -0.3, so if it wasn't for the admin fees I would be making money from having a loan. The actual cost of my mortgage is about 1% and about 1/3 of that is covered by it being a tax write off.
2019-11-07 22:36
How tf does it work? In a country like Finland/Denmark, where an average salary is sky high for Russia, and a rent costs just 700€? I pay like 500€ for my 30sq/m rathole, while making 3 times less than an average Dane...
2019-11-09 09:09
finland and denmark has high af taxes so we dont have much money left after month even if rents arent that expensive
2019-11-09 09:14
#197
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Denmark Matchfix 
I pay 300 a month to live a home bruh
2019-11-07 18:26
sounds awful lol
2019-11-07 18:27
If you live at home and pay a bit to your parents, yes it's enough.
2019-11-07 21:28
+1
2019-11-07 15:44
#75
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Serbia cr4zymen 
you are so greedy LUL
2019-11-07 16:37
what u mean my serb friend`?
2019-11-07 22:17
#269
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Serbia cr4zymen 
>400 bucks on passive >cry pick one
2019-11-07 22:20
jebem te familiu
2019-11-07 22:20
#275
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Serbia cr4zymen 
jebi ovcu
2019-11-07 22:24
Imam prijatelja iz Bosne, tako da jednostavno možemo nastaviti dalje.
2019-11-07 22:25
#279
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Serbia cr4zymen 
Turski peder i njegova gay djevojka, što može biti bolje? Jebi se
2019-11-07 22:32
Kosovo je Srbija
2019-11-07 23:52
#306
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Serbia cr4zymen 
i što?
2019-11-07 23:57
#234
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Estonia MorsAlbum 
sori noob, my cry is ~32,000 a month
2019-11-07 21:27
You have to pay tax later of course, but it's totally worth it since school is also high quality with all the government money.
2019-11-07 15:39
#4
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Brazil kitten[!] 
come to denmark
2019-11-07 15:38
So you get free monies for not contributing anything to society?
2019-11-07 15:43
#27
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Yugoslavia seeeed 
no
2019-11-07 15:46
ok
2019-11-07 15:46
You only get the money if you are a student. So I that way you contribute. And we got high taxes later then you start working and earning money. 8/8 country
2019-11-07 15:47
wait so what are the Danish tax rates?
2019-11-07 15:48
something like +-33% with a progressive increase if you have a high wage. A dane will have to get you the precise numbers
2019-11-07 15:57
39 %
2019-11-07 15:58
It is not that simple. The 39% is of the part of your income which is taxed, part of your income is not taxed at all.
2019-11-07 22:41
and all your income is taxed 8% (AM bidrag)
2019-11-08 23:41
Salaries yes, capital gains no.
2019-11-09 02:03
of course thats why its called arbejdsmarkedsbidrag :D
2019-11-09 15:36
Yes, but most here won't know what it is or how it works.
2019-11-09 16:59
If you're earning a high enough amount of money you'll start to pay a higher tax than 39%. But the 39% is the standard.
2019-11-07 16:25
#109
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United States t0rr0r 
Yikes 6% here
2019-11-07 17:16
but how much you need to spend for insurance
2019-11-07 17:22
most people don't need to spend much at all.... there might be deductibles for when you actually go to the doctor/hospital, but the majority of americans have health insurance through their employer. depending on the employer, there may or may not be some money (not too much) taken from your paychecks to help with the group insurance plans, but generally you don't really pay much. when you go to the doctor you pay a "copay" which is somewhere between $10 - 50 per visit. insurance companies will pay the rest. if there's an emergency or surgery that's necessary, you will pay whatever your deductible is (that can vary quite a bit) and then the insurance company will pay the majority stake. you might have some out of pocket costs depending on the plan, insurance company, and the severity of the surgery/emergency so there can be SOME costs for health care, but generally speaking most people don't have surgeries or emergencies very often, so health care costs for most people are usually relatively low for a given year
2019-11-07 18:02
that sounds great as long as you are an employee but what if you are unemployed
2019-11-07 18:26
then get a job, bum lol but seriously, there are programs to assist people with low income
2019-11-07 18:27
#212
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Belgium Miiyata 
And how much does studying cost at uni? Eks
2019-11-07 18:51
depends on where you go for school. I went to Purdue and my tuition was like ~$5k per semester (I was also born and raised in Indiana so i paid in-state tuition costs. it's MUCH higher if you're from out of state or out of country), but i also was in the military so it was paid for however one thing that people don't really talk about in relation to student loan debt is that young adults need to fully analyze whether or not a bachelors degree is even necessary. to be frank, lots of people study subjects that statistically won't really yield them a decent job.... several liberal arts majors come to mind. a couple decades ago there was this huge push for college education and employers adjusted their hiring requirements accordingly. simple jobs like admin assistants required a 4-year bachelors degree..... uh.. what? so you want me to pay tens of thousands of dollars to get a degree, but the position doesn't pay enough money to comfortably pay that debt off? it doesn't make sense, but that's where a lot of these student debt discussions come from. yea let me just go to school and pay $100k to get this art degree. lol really smart... college education is important, but society needs to realize that a bachelors degree isn't applicable to all jobs. trade schools, associates programs, certification programs, etc. are all overlooked when these discussions about education are brought up.
2019-11-07 19:04
get a scholarship there are hundreds of thousands. Get your employer to pay for your schooling. Tons of companies do that. You guys act like you can't be reliant yourself and your own abilities lmfao
2019-11-08 00:41
what? thats even higher than swedens first standard sure we got more tax once u earn more But as long as u earn less than 3.5 k a month, u pay like 30%
2019-11-07 17:19
danish tax system is a messy thing to explain tbh.
2019-11-08 15:17
But remember we got healthcare and more payed by our taxes
2019-11-07 16:52
#33
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Denmark Zaerdna 
Well, you study. So You'll pay back to society later.
2019-11-07 15:47
+1
2019-11-07 22:21
yes
2019-11-07 15:56
yes. well, the idea is that the student go to university and get a nice degree. Nice degree will most likely result in great income. Great income = big payback in taxes. So the government is only investing in the students. It's great for the government and also the students.
2019-11-07 19:00
an the ones who choose shit degrees?
2019-11-07 21:37
+1:D great system, turkey could learn lmao
2019-11-07 22:21
hey i get ~250€/month scolarship from kyk mens)) Turkey have sooo much thing to learn btw
2019-11-07 23:59
#368
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Latvia sw1pe 
so even if ur not from denmark and u study there do u still get the money the dane students get? or is it only for danes?
2019-11-08 19:30
I am not sure. I think if you have a student "permit" then you might get it. Maybe you would have to be a registered danish citizen
2019-11-08 22:10
I did some research. You have to be a danish citizen to get this education support (SU in danish). But if you are a foreign student you can seek permission to be equated with danish citizen and thus be approved for SU.
2019-11-08 22:14
#380
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Latvia sw1pe 
thank you for providing information, cheers!
2019-11-08 23:01
Hey my name is Nicolai
2019-11-07 15:44
hello nicolai!
2019-11-07 15:46
Hi Nicolai
2019-11-07 16:00
thats standard for scandinavia?
2019-11-07 15:46
#89
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Russia cuba_libre10 
yes between 30-40
2019-11-07 16:58
#26
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Sweden hyllie 
same in Sweden
2019-11-07 15:46
#373
shox | 
Slovakia TreeMan 
nobody's jelous of Sweden anymore
2019-11-08 21:25
#376
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Sweden hyllie 
you clearly are
2019-11-08 21:56
In Turkey, life is expensive guys. So that threader guy wrote this. Ignore him
2019-11-07 15:47
Wtf do u mean, i didnt say turkey, i said denmark retard
2019-11-07 22:15
Ushendim my friend :)))
2019-11-08 11:06
amk
2019-11-08 11:22
LMAO
2019-11-08 18:53
It will be changed sooner than later. We can't afford it forever when we have to feed so many 3rd world immigrants which is the case atm. The Danish government even pay Syrians to go home to their own country again. If a family of 4 wish to go home to Syria they will get more than $54.000 for free from the state.
2019-11-07 15:48
So few words but so many false things and wrong facts.. its actually amazing you where able to do that.
2019-11-07 16:43
So few words but still you managed to convince everynoe you lack cognitive abilities. Good job.
2019-11-07 16:46
True but even more so for Sweden Denmark atleast has a little sense
2019-11-07 17:20
#295
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Denmark Mrnobody 
Its gameover for you, me and Germany lets be honest.
2019-11-07 23:04
#304
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Germany sketchbook 
:( no u
2019-11-07 23:55
#409
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Denmark Notallama 
Read the first line thinking this might be an insightful posts as our workforce is actually shrinking while our state expenses keep rising, because of the amount of elderly etc. Read the rest and realize it's an undereducated edgelord who thinks he's smart.
2019-11-09 09:14
If you in any way think 3rd world immigrants from muslim countries contributes to the overall work force or is in any way the answer to the Danish population getting older you're not only uneducated, but actual dumb as well.
2019-11-09 13:06
#417
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Denmark Notallama 
Did you completely miss the point with my post or are you actually stupid?
2019-11-09 16:46
Do they acept brasilian immigration? refugee from dictator bolsonaro :(((( if yes im going..........
2019-11-07 15:50
This depends on the parents income, in my sons case he will only get 140USD because we have an income annually that is way above the max limiter of 88000USD. And we the parents pay around 4000USD in income tax every month. This is how it works. Now my son who sits next to me wants to move out as soon as he turns eighteen he just claimed, because then he will get 912USD a month. Lets see about that :-)
2019-11-07 15:51
These tax rates are insane. Pls explain again quickly regarding car purchases. Some taxi driver told me, that you guys pay the price of the car as a tax on top of it. So like a 50k car costs 100k effectively. That true? Also $912 won't get you far in DK. How expensive is the rent for a flat?
2019-11-07 15:58
If you're a student you basically have to find a roommate to afford rent, unless you wanna live off pasta 24/7. You can get studnet housing though I guess, I don't really remember. But yes, cars are expensive as hell, that's why you won't see many high-end cars on the roads here. A lot of people actually move to Germany just because of this. "Vægtafgift" depends on the weight of the car but if you car is running diesel you will have an added compensatory tax. fdm.dk/alt-om-biler/love-regler/boeder-a..
2019-11-07 16:36
Thanks man. I've been to denmark almost 10 times and the ''sickest'' cars i've seen were a tesla, porsche cayenne and some RS audi's. Nothing insane.
2019-11-07 16:39
students get student jobs, only the lazy ones try and live off the free $912 alone
2019-11-07 17:15
you guys love paying all your money to the government in taxes then thinking you're getting something free lmfao
2019-11-07 15:53
#48
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Norway alxo 
Yeah like America taxes where 80% or more goes to the military lmfao
2019-11-07 15:55
#54
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Brazil Mirekz 
still more usefull than goin to potheads
2019-11-07 15:57
+1
2019-11-07 16:01
#90
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Russia cuba_libre10 
cant have potheads if its illegal and its much harder to import weed to scandinavia than it is for a country that borders for example afganistan or south america..
2019-11-07 17:02
#107
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Brazil Mirekz 
potheads is just a figurative way of saying it, what i mean teenagers will probably just waste the money by buying things like cloths that they don't need goin to parties, imagine knowing that a part of your money that you work hard to get is goin to students that probably waste all of it on partying and useless shit.
2019-11-07 17:15
#108
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Russia cuba_libre10 
understandable. But in my dictionary, pothead = weed smoker
2019-11-07 17:16
#214
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Belgium Miiyata 
Still good for local economy then System is working there and its 1 of the happiest countries in the world. Its not Usa where 1 thinks owning a bugati is key to have a happy life and freedom lulw
2019-11-07 18:56
its not though. I have no idea what this ridicolous remark is about. You should re-evaluate your life. Denmark has a great system that has brought them to the top of the world in terms of quality of life. I think that says more than a random brazilian on HLTVs opinion lmao
2019-11-07 16:43
We dont think we get it for free. But the system works and its all good. Besides the car taxes. That sucks, but that also mean that you only get to see a Lambo or a ferrari rarely.
2019-11-07 16:05
#91
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Russia cuba_libre10 
I was kindly surprised in my visit to Copenhagen I saw very little cars and mostly people on bicycles.
2019-11-07 17:02
True.. We have nice wide bicycle-lanes and you get around almost as fast as cars. People also travel by these rentable electric scooters. Do you have these in your world to?
2019-11-07 18:10
#227
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Russia cuba_libre10 
no we have Lada and crazy fools on bmws xd
2019-11-07 19:53
#95
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Sweden hyllie 
I saw a Ferrari in Hörsholm ;)
2019-11-07 17:09
Hørsholm is a rich people area.
2019-11-07 18:07
#64
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Sweden hyllie 
it's a working system while the system in America is clearly not working
2019-11-07 16:07
expected from swedistan
2019-11-07 16:51
#96
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Sweden hyllie 
what?
2019-11-07 17:10
It works in Denmark but not in Sweden anymore BIG RIP hope it falls apart soon so we can go back to a capitalistic society
2019-11-07 17:21
#132
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Sweden hyllie 
what do you mean doesn't work in Sweden anymore lmao
2019-11-07 17:24
120 000 people in waiting queues for healthcare, nice system buddy Almost every district is out of money and need to make cuts for the elder care etc. Thats why the goverment do stupid shit like 7 kr for a plastic bag, not for the enviroment but to get some more cash flow, more tax more tax, more immigrants and one day KABOOOM
2019-11-07 17:26
#144
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Sweden hyllie 
the system works and would work perfectly if we didn't have so many immigrants living on welfare. thankfully not all residence permits are permanent ;)
2019-11-07 17:29
"would work perfectly". Okay? Nice argument LOL IF But its not like that. Its not like that at all and things will turn ugly, nigthmare-ish ugly
2019-11-07 17:30
#152
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Sweden hyllie 
what did the people think back in the 90's when unemployment went from 1.8% to 11% and some municipalities couldn't hire people?
2019-11-07 17:32
the overwhelming majority of things i see about Sweden are positive. your comments are showing a different picture. is it really that bad now? how do you deal with the wait times for health assistance if you have a serious medical issue?
2019-11-07 18:18
People who had prostate cancer and stuff have went to Finland clinics So yeah, you arent getting much of your paid tax back. You get education and its GOOD yeah but the healthcare and society security sucks. Police is not entierly powerless here as Breitbart n shit says, lotta fake news But there are areas which Police dont control You dont have to worry about them as a Sweden tho, but its just principal Security in terms of violence and healthcar just isnt that good anymore
2019-11-07 18:19
areas where police don't control? because it's too dangerous or not enough funding to support it? that would be an awful feeling
2019-11-07 18:23
#210
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Sweden hyllie 
I'm not a police officer but from what I've experienced I don't think there are any areas that the police can't control. But they have had harder times to control crime when they've been attacked sometimes. I used to live in the second worst area in Sweden (Gottsunda, Uppsala expressen.se/nyheter/over-100-skjutninga..) still pretty damn good but still bad according to Swedish standards. The police was there almost all the time and crime happened sometimes, maybe a shooting every 2 months. There was once a dude who blew up a Cobra 8 next to the social security office and some windows were blown out. Other than that I believe the picture of Sweden is so highly exaggerated by these "woke alternative news pages", and they act like we've never had exposed areas until a few years ago. gottsundacentrum.se/wp-content/uploads/C.. this is a picture of central Gottsunda btw. Swedistan.
2019-11-07 18:48
that's a great picture, and it looks like a lot of towns here in the US as well. unless you live in a huge national city, or maybe even a state capital or moderately sized city, crime rates are quite low here in the US. i have quite a few police officer friends in various sized cities and most of the offenses they talk about are drug, traffic, or domestic disturbance related. in short... crime in some form is everywhere lol
2019-11-07 19:11
I can second that. I have lived in 3 zones that foreign/alt-right news sites call no-go zones. For the absolute majority nothing happens. I never saw anything. Once just after a moved out some cars where torched. Granted shit like that shouldnt happen but it's very far from the warzone its portrayed to be.
2019-11-08 17:16
yea definitely, that's really how it is over here. news agencies love to highlight violent crime stories because 1.) people eat that shit up 2.) it gives them a story to write and 3.) it helps with their ratings. in reality, the overwhelming majority will never encounter something like that in their entire lives
2019-11-08 19:10
what system?
2019-11-07 18:15
#204
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Sweden hyllie 
the social democratic system aka the nordic model
2019-11-07 18:41
no i meant the one here in America. generally speaking it seems like the conversation between capitalism and socialism is a matter of individual opinion, along with generational roots and history in a nutshell "The American Dream" is an idea where the individual is in complete control of their future. all the tools are out there for you to be successful (that's not an exaggeration either), but you're the one who needs to accomplish your goals. along with that, a large percentage of our population tends to think poorly on those who do not strive for personal greatness and/or financial stability. "why should I pay for people who didn't do well in school and strive for a good job? If I can do it, why cant you? why should I have to pay for your medical and living costs?" i for one completely agree with those questions. it's hard for me to grasp an ideology where a large percentage of my paycheck goes to those who don't work, don't contribute to society, or those who are "pursuing their own dreams." why can't i use my hard-earned money to pave my own way for my family?
2019-11-07 19:20
A large percentage of what tax doesnt go to people who doesnt work etc. This is just a fear tactics used by politicians. They say this shit to divide us. The amount of money eaten up by "parasites" is not that much. Though immigration wave was costly, and so was previous immigration waves (vietnam, balkan etc) they always balance out in the end. The reason for the higher costs and worse welfare is because the exploitation of tax money. In the US right its handles most of its welfare privately through insurances if I understand it correctly? In Sweden you are entitled to certain things, funded by the state. Historically the state has provided the service but the swedish capitalistic alliance (4 party coalition) decided to sell off a lot of this infrastructure and make it a freer market. Problem is now you have a lot of private companies funded by tax money. Private companies want to make a profit. State institutions does not. Basically the flood gates to grabbing tax money has opened which results in a weaker product for the money who you but who cares right its just the workers money. Social Democracy is great if done right but we are in a social neoliberalism which is absolutely terrible.
2019-11-08 17:24
no, here in the US the welfare assistance initiatives are run by the government. food stamps, medicaid, low income housing programs, etc are all done through the government yea.... private companies are what run our pharmaceutical and medical insurance companies. it's the bane of our existence over here because there's literally nothing you can do about it. lobbyists and companies financially influence the policy makers and the consumers and businesses who have the health care plans are the ones who essentially pay for it. it's fucking horseshit.... in relation to that type of stuff, i really hope your country doesn't walk down the path that ours has
2019-11-08 19:08
Well it is free. If you are homeless and don't have any money, or haven't payed taxes in forever, you can still go to the hospital for free if you are sick.
2019-11-07 19:02
#43
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Denmark Farmand 
You dont get paid 400€ for staying at home. If you live at home with your parents you get around 120€ a month. If you have moved out and live by yourself you get around 800€
2019-11-07 15:53
its even more in france
2019-11-07 15:54
Monopoly money doesn't count
2019-11-07 15:56
#49
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Brazil Mirekz 
personally i don't like the idea of giving my tax money to students, who knows what they're doing with it.
2019-11-07 16:02
It gives students the oppurtunity to pursue their dreams. Its wasted on some, but life changing for others.
2019-11-07 15:57
#59
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Brazil Mirekz 
well, in most countries students can still chase their dreams by actually working part jobs.
2019-11-07 15:59
Depends on housing situation, family situation etc. Personal freedom in Denmark is just much greater than most countries. You can't have a part time job and at the same time pay for an engineering education, to take an example. Especially not if you want to have children, go to sports etc at the same time.
2019-11-07 16:47
i could be wrong, but this is my take on this monthly stipend in relation to happiness ratings in Denmark. younger people are generally happy in Denmark because they get money for doing practically nothing. would you say that's an accurate depiction? i'm most likely older than most people on this site, and I would not be happy if a decent percentage of my hard earned money went to people who are "pursuing their dreams," simply not working, and/or not really contributing to society
2019-11-07 18:21
Practically nothing? They have to study. Its not exactly easy and many put alot of work and energy in it. Why wouldn't Danes happily pay taxes so their own children and the neighbour's children can pursue their dreams and ambitions? We were all young once and we all had the same oppurtunities. Its not like these people are not contributing to society at later stages in life. One day they will finish their education and pay taxes so the next generation can have the same opportunity. In Denmark we live by this basic philosophy; 'the widest shoulders must bear the heaviest burdens'. And we try.
2019-11-07 21:42
hey man, i have a college education and i had a part time job while i was in school. like i said in a previous post somewhere in this thread, ideas about capitalism vs socialism is a topic rooted in individual opinions and generational roots/history
2019-11-07 21:45
You're a strong person and good job but not everyone have the psyche to do that. Some have families to tend for example, but we want these people to have the chance to get a good education as well. I often see foreigners from non-European countries who find it hard to relate to a small country like Denmark. You have to remember this country is more than 1000 years old, our people have lived here for thousands of years so we share the same history, ethnicity, culture, values, mentality etc. We look alike, we act alike, its natural for us to help out our like-minded countrymen and we found out that in this way there will be less poor people which will transmit to the rest of society, like less crime, corruption etc.
2019-11-07 21:53
O yea definitely, i fully agree with you. Generally speaking I find the Scandinavian countries to be so interesting simply because of the people and social structure they (you) have. I wouldn't say it's a black and white difference between Scandinavia vs countries like the US (and quite honestly there's a decent percentage of us who want a system like yours), but the dynamics of country size, population, and financial influence in our political system creates a lot of differences of opinion and personal drive
2019-11-07 21:59
Can you name a few?
2019-11-07 17:14
#112
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Brazil Mirekz 
do you get paid for goin to school in UK?
2019-11-07 17:17
Yes.
2019-11-07 17:18
#117
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Brazil Mirekz 
nope, you probably get loans which you still have to pay back
2019-11-07 17:18
We get a GRANT, which we never pay back. We can apply for a loan as well, if we need.
2019-11-07 17:19
#124
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Brazil Mirekz 
how much is it? do you get a monthly amount like in denmark? do you need to be poor to get it? do you get up to 800Euros/month if you live by yourself like in denmark?
2019-11-07 17:22
I think you get it 4 times a year. The poorer you are, the more you get. Also its less if you live at home. I doubt its as much as what Denmark gets.
2019-11-07 17:24
#137
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Brazil Mirekz 
well, here in brazil we have social programs like that too, but you need to earn less than X amount of money/month to be able to apply to it, but from what i understand in denmark you can get it even if your family is wealthy, imo its a waste of tax money.
2019-11-07 17:27
I have no idea if that's true in Denmark. Usually these things are exaggerated.
2019-11-07 17:28
also 99% tax rate
2019-11-07 16:08
39% and a way better functioning society for it. don't be jelly.
2019-11-07 16:35
I am not jealous at all hahaha. I would rather not pay for everyone else's healthcare and education with my hard earned money
2019-11-07 16:38
that's cool, but your country is literally collapsing because of your egoistic ass mindsets. :D besides, it's not like you won't benefit from it as well. imagine if you could actually avoid student debt and study whatever you wanted to without having to worry about money being an issue or lucking out by being born into a somewhat wealthy family. imagine if you lost your job and your house, you would have nothing and be forced to live on the streets like so many people are in the U.S. it's fine and dandy for you now because you're fine RIGHT NOW, but when shit hits the fan i'm sure your mindset will change. your country is literally 3rd world in so many instances.
2019-11-07 16:49
Our country is collapsing? Last time I checked we were the most powerful country in the world? And of course ill have to worry about money since 40% of it is being stripped from my paycheck
2019-11-07 16:51
"most powerful country in the world" in what aspect? military power? purchasing power? lol most major companies are moving to china, china will probably become the most powerful nation soon. 1. and yes, your society is fucked. you've got homeless epidemics across the country. 2. 58 opioid prescriptions per 100 americans in 2017. your president is on fucking sudafed lmfao 3. mass shootings happening EVERY SINGLE DAY. 4. president literally doesn't give a shit about climate change and just backed out of the climate agreement even though all of your house is literally burning down in front of you. 5. ground-zero for SJW culture. 6. putting your citizens in insane amounts of debt they likely wont ever pay off just to attend college LOL. 7. you will have to be careful of what disease or illnesses hit you depending on your financial status, unless you wanna be in debt the rest of your life. your country is a fucking shithole.
2019-11-07 17:03
1. Homeless people are expected when you have 400 million in a capitalist economy. 2. Agreed, the US has an opioid epidemic. 3. The amount of mass shootings are hard to gage because its not a legally defined term. 4. The US doesn't need to do anything about climate change. China or India do. 5. Differences in opinion, what a bad thing!!!!111 6. If you don't have the means to pay back a student loan then don't take one. Quite simple. 7. Vaccines aren't expensive
2019-11-07 17:08
"The US doesn't need to do anything about climate change. China or India do." what? what fucking logic is that? you're the 2nd largest contributor next to china and only some states are actually trying to fight it, while your president (and country as a whole essentially) doesn't give a fuck. of course the U.S. has to fucking do something about climate change, we all do. are you fucking serious? LOL whatever man
2019-11-07 17:13
In 2014 China was responsible for 30% of all CO2 emissions. India has seen a 150% gain in carbon emissions since the year 2000, and China has seen a 200% gain, while the US has lowered their emissions by over 20%. Braindead
2019-11-07 17:15
Source about china and co2 plz.
2019-11-07 17:17
Literally just look it up
2019-11-07 17:23
You made the claim, its your responsibility to prove it.
2019-11-07 17:24
I don't have any responsibility to provide anything to your dumbass. Stop replying to me please
2019-11-07 17:25
Well clearly you have never been to college/university. You would be laughed at for this kind of argument. Anyway I found the report. "estimates carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions from the combustion of coal, natural gas, oil, and other fuels, including industrial waste and non-renewable municipal waste. " Which does not include that over a 3rd of our emissions are produced from live stock.
2019-11-07 17:27
Damn I didn't know I have to cite everything I write on HLTV.org filled with braindeads like you
2019-11-07 17:29
You have to backup your claims wherever you write them, any educated person would expect it.
2019-11-07 17:30
+1
2019-11-08 00:39
what fucking difference does it make? YOU ARE CURRENTLY #2 next to china, it doesn't matter if you lowered your emissions already, china is also actively lowering their emissions but still not to the degree that is needed. putting all the responsability on china and india as well as the rest of the world is a fucking scumbag move, you're the country that has benefited and destroyed the eco-system for the longest period since the the industrial revolution. China - 9.04 billion - per capita: 6.59 United States - 5.00 billion - per capita: 15.53 India - 2.07 billion - per capita: 1.58 in fact, your CO2 emissions has actually risen in 2018, even more so than China... China: +3.5% U.S. +3.7%, following years of decline India +4% "but we don't have to do anything" ok buddy
2019-11-07 17:23
The US is actively lowering their CO2 emissions. You said it yourself. Stop blaming the US for all the worlds problems, look at your communist brothers in China
2019-11-07 17:24
"The US is actively lowering their CO2 emissions" i literally just told you that your CO2 levels has risen even more than China in 2018. are you pretending to be braindamaged just for the lulz? you ARE the worlds problems, together with the rest of us. you are the second largest contributor and the ones that have benefited the most. only EUROPE reduced their emissions by 2.5% in 2018, down 22% since 1990. and newsflash bro, denmark is far from a communist country. i know you're braindamaged by your media but chill. fucking comparing us to venezuela LMFAO
2019-11-07 17:28
If i am correct, all 3 world countrys have 3 things in commen. Being poor, in alot of debt and in a politically unstable situation? usdebtclock.org/ ooops bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50323190 ooops ohh well, guess i am right
2019-11-07 17:31
Ah yes, another braindead who wants Trump impeached for nothing. You love to see it. Braindead danish commie
2019-11-07 17:32
Is ur country politically unstable right now? Yes Do you have a lot of debt? Yes So stop acting like you have 0 brain cells! I know it is hard to argue with educated people who get it for free while you have to pay for it with money you don't have!
2019-11-07 17:35
Yes bro, you TOTALLY get university for free. TOTALLY.
2019-11-07 17:36
But i want to hear what you think, is you country politically unstable right now and in a lot of debt? Give me a true answer plz Get in the conversation!
2019-11-07 17:39
Have you seen the wealth distribution of ur country? its by far the worst one of all the OECD countries your top 5% owns 90% of all ur wealth so what does it matter how powerful military wise you are when ur bottom 80% live in worse conditions than our bottom 5%. Oh and funny thing about americans. You guys dont like to pay for eachothers healthcare etc. but are completely fine paying it through insurance??
2019-11-07 17:35
That's how capitalism works dumbass
2019-11-07 17:28
Thats how capitalism works in a country where people dont have the same opportunities in life from birth since you heavily rely on ur parents income for basic things like education
2019-11-07 17:36
Yes. Hard work = more money. If you are born poor, its not your fault, but if you die poor, its your fault.
2019-11-07 17:33
smart americano +
2019-11-07 18:06
Bingo
2019-11-07 18:40
#223
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Belgium Miiyata 
What is hard work in your vocabulary? Taking 2 jobs?
2019-11-07 19:10
#300
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Europe black1ch 
+1
2019-11-07 23:44
You are very smart.
2019-11-08 23:39
Homelessness here in the US is PRIMARILY a problem in states or cities that have liberal/left governments. It’s a vicious cycle of the government trying to help them, and the actual homeless people legit not giving a shit because they receive assistance.... I live in Colorado and certain cities like Denver or Boulder have all sorts of shelters and programs to try and help them. Generally speaking there not aggressive people, but the issue is that they don’t really have a drive to get their lives turned around because they’re content (I know it sounds crazy, but it’s not an exaggeration) with how things are going for them. States that do not have this level of support for them paint a completely different picture for those homeless people. It truly is a strange mix of ideologies and end results
2019-11-07 18:37
No doubt there are people who "enjoy" being homeless. We have those people here too, but people that are homeless here basically choose to be homeless, because they can get help from the government. So I know what you mean with people being content being homeless. But there are still insane amounts of people in the U.S. that is homeless and can't do much about it. It's hard to land a job being homeless and not only that, your minimum wage =/= homelessness. Sure, one could argue that it's their "own fault" for not getting a college degree and getting a job earlier in life or whatever, but some people don't have the same opportunities and might've been born into a poor family and couldn't afford to attend college. I know there's a few states that actively try to help people but it doesn't change the fact that homelessness is a real issue in the states, one that could be solved or at least improved marginally with a better system. But of course, I'm not saying that the Scandinavian system would work the same in the U.S. because we're way different people, but you've gotta adopt some sort of system that would help prevent such cases in the future. I also do think that education and healthcare is a human right, so there's that. I don't believe it should be determined by your financial status or position in life. Better education and health of your entire society leads to a better society overall.
2019-11-07 20:36
yeah man it's pretty interesting for sure... a very large percentage of the population completely lacks desire to help the homeless until something happens to them. we're a capitalist society and unfortunately homelessness is something that inevitably comes with it if you help them too much, they might take advantage if you don't help them, crime rates would most likely increase i honestly don't know the solution and there are just far too many people who simply don't give a shit
2019-11-07 20:38
#311
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Finland Jodecast 
Well the system that is used now obviously doesnt work, hard to fix now, should have been something else in the beginning, usa crime rate per 1000 is horrible, worse than some actually poor third world countries
2019-11-08 00:06
what do u mean by crime rate? what type of crime? speeding is a crime lol if you're talking about murder rates (no offense, but i'm not even gonna bother looking it up lol), then it's a very very skewed statistic as it is. the overwhelming majority of our violent crimes occur in the gang-occupied areas of very large cities, no different than any other country the violent crime rates in rural areas are almost non-existent
2019-11-08 00:17
#319
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Finland Jodecast 
Well thats the point, homicide rate is terribly high, in my country for example there is not a single area that I would not be scared to visit, not any big gang violence etc, the point is that those terrible areas exist in usa, thats just how it is, I would not feel so good if my country would have hot spots of high crime
2019-11-08 01:03
you should look more in-depth about those statistics to figure out where, why, and who. also don't forget that the US is several times larger than Finland. i lived in Chicago for 5 years. it's one of the most-visited cities in the US, including for those who are not from the US. i lived on the north side by Wrigley Field (Chicago Cubs baseball team) and i genuinely felt safe the entire time i lived there. however it's much much different about 8-10 miles away on the west and southern sides of the city. that's where the gangs are and that's where the overwhelming majority of the crime takes place. drugs, gang vs gang related violence, territory disputes, etc. i'm definitely not at all saying that it's a good thing, but it's isolated and primarily against each other. in rural areas throughout the country, that crime is practically nonexistent. besides the vast expanses of flat farmland, i'm sure it's a lot like Finland or other parts of Europe
2019-11-08 01:11
Correction... The homeless in Denmark mainly comes in 3 categories or a mix of #1 and #2. Many of the homeless danes DO get aid, but still end up in the streets. 1. Danes with a mental illness (like bag ladies) 2. Danes with drug and/or alcohol related problems 3. Poor people from other EU countries, like Romania. In the summer they make up the majority of homeless in Denmark. In the winter most of them go south
2019-11-09 16:08
#435
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Russia F1Z1K 
I've read all your comments and been convinced once again that I was right about Denmark. Looking forward to going there (idk if Russians are welcomed there, but still). Have been learning Danish for 1 year and 2 months and already reached B1 level, by 2022, when I've graduated from the university, my level is to be C2. I'm going to move to Denmark after I've graduated from the university, is it a good decision if I'm not going to beg on the Danish government and will work hard there? Will Rasmus Paludan say "du skal ikke integreres, du skal hjem" to me?
2019-11-10 19:41
No one has any issues with anyone (even muslims) if they just integrate and work hard. It's when you take from society and give nothing back like a lot of middle eastern families are doing, aka breeding like crazy and live off of child support and refuse to speak the language. Shouldn't be a problem, especially not when you've taken your time to learn danish before you even move here. No problem.
2019-11-10 20:00
#441
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Russia F1Z1K 
Nu er det klar, tusind tak skal du have :)
2019-11-10 20:03
Så lidt :D
2019-11-10 20:04
I wouldn't either if I was American. Here in Denmark though, we all - to a degree - share the same values, culture, mentality, history, ethnicity etc. We can relate to our neighbours, we are just a small country. We have a basic philosophy here; 'the widest shoulders must bear the heaviest burdens'. Our way of life though is slowly threatened by immigration. If in the future Denmark is no longer recognizable, if our people can no longer relate to each other and see the similarities, then our people won't pay to help the less fortunate. Basic human instincts.
2019-11-07 17:10
In Sweden u pay so that brown people can come here and fuck things up as well
2019-11-07 17:22
Welcome to socialized countries. Germany and France have the same problem
2019-11-07 17:25
It worked very fine until brownies entered the picture. Well arabs are caucasian too but I still call them brownies, cause yeah thats how u view it in america. Anyway Sweden 1945-1990 was very good and I would happily pay for my own people who had difficulties Today its just a nightmare, a system falling apart A Rich socialist country is good A poor one is a nightmare to live in, the biggest nightmare Its all about that dynamic, and now we are slowly turning poor
2019-11-07 17:27
#169
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Sweden hyllie 
bruh imagine calling Sweden a nightmare while people there's literally 1 billion people out there living in extreme poverty plus slowly turning poor? our economy is growing tradingeconomics.com/sweden/gdp-growth-a.. even Norway are doing worse than us in that aspect lol tradingeconomics.com/norway/gdp-growth-a..
2019-11-07 17:51
Sweden is turning into the immigrants home countries What you are linking says nothing really just wait
2019-11-07 18:01
#183
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Sweden hyllie 
k we'll see
2019-11-07 18:02
We are not poor you stupid fuck, we are rich as fuck just bad governing at the moment. Country of 10 million people taking in over a million "new" citizens in a short amount of time. Of course our wellfare system is going to fall apart since it cant keep up. Most countries would have gone under a long time ago, weve only survived since we de facto are so rich. Blind little kiddo.
2019-11-07 23:05
#220
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Belgium Miiyata 
Yeah your hard earned money comes with ghettos and thieves in USA. On a diff note: your society is legit shit btw, every american tourist i meet is like "holy shit eu ppl are so laid back and chill, in the states we have to time everything from morning to sleeptime". And this didnt come from 1 or 4 tourists, ive met like 20 who said this. Also kekw: The amount of mass shootings are hard to gage because its not a legally defined term. even if not mass shootings, there r still shootings and murders on daily basis. And dont come with ur 400mil cuz there is a country with triple those numbers and triple less crime rates
2019-11-07 19:08
39 % ...
2019-11-07 21:43
400$?? The amount of money you get (SU) which is a monthly pay you get from the state because you're studying, is based on your parents' income in case you live at home. If you're living by your own, you're getting 860$, but with that you have a (normally) expensive rent and food isn't cheap as well. So you're probably gonna have to work next to your study if not you're lucky to have parents who can help you out economically.
2019-11-07 16:28
Brunei is better tho
2019-11-07 16:38
#98
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Denmark valt3rr 
we don't get 400$ a month. That is something we can apply to get and the amount of money depends on your parent's income and if they live together. This is something you can do when you start your education.
2019-11-07 17:12
#99
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Denmark valt3rr 
and also if you live at your parents place or alone
2019-11-07 17:12
#101
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Denmark valt3rr 
i believe
2019-11-07 17:13
#103
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Norway Warerks 
disgusting country but still better than sweden 🤮🤮🤮
2019-11-07 17:15
Just join Denmark-Norway union already
2019-11-07 17:15
Norwegian fjeldabe talking, ur irrelevant so stfu, ur only mad cause u took turns getting fucked by denmark and sweden lmfao
2019-11-07 17:19
#177
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Norway Warerks 
nt denmark. ty for the oil
2019-11-07 17:59
hes probably a typical eastern european refugee who got kicked out of Denmark, dont mind him lol
2019-11-07 18:47
#259
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Norway Warerks 
nt ahmed from oslo but im a millionare from the oil city
2019-11-07 21:57
"millionare from the oil city". How long do they let you use the internet in jail szbugniew?
2019-11-08 05:51
#333
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Norway Warerks 
idk wtf youre talking about but please lay of the rape Amud Muhammad in oslo
2019-11-08 15:44
wtf?
2019-11-11 12:29
Kjeften Kvernevik
2019-11-09 00:19
#400
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Norway Warerks 
nesten
2019-11-09 00:23
#166
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Sweden hyllie 
you're the least relevant country here. fuck off
2019-11-07 17:47
#176
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Norway Warerks 
chill out ahmed
2019-11-07 17:58
#178
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Sweden hyllie 
I'm Swedish, not Middle Eastern. pretty bad joke tbh
2019-11-07 18:00
#216
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Norway Warerks 
Wow obv racist. A lot of swedish people are named Mohammed
2019-11-07 18:58
#217
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Sweden hyllie 
don't think a single Swedish person would name someone after a pedophile
2019-11-07 19:00
haha - why is it, that so many norwegians goes to DK to study, and almost no one the other way? : )
2019-11-07 21:47
Is this real?? Where is the Proof?!?!
2019-11-07 17:17
It has some truth to it. University is free. But the numbers are not correct. It's "only" 125€ if you live at your parents. If you don't live at your parents it's 720€ though. But (there is always a but, right) if you have too much income you won't receive this. And you need to be active under gradiuation. E.g you are not valid to get this help if you don't get more than x ECTS points at univeristy. And you only have a limited amount of clips - meaning there is a cap.
2019-11-07 18:57
#239
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Denmark Derige 
The amount you get when living at home depends on the parents income. I got close to 400 per month when i lived at home
2019-11-07 21:33
Ty
2019-11-07 23:34
#131
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Denmark CloudEr 
salary in Russia is even less
2019-11-07 17:24
Besides all memes and jokes, avg salary in Russia is ~560$ (no eto schitaya zp deputatov I glav goscorporaciy, Bez nix dumau 500$ max XD)
2019-11-07 18:42
#313
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Denmark CloudEr 
Slushai, a ti prav
2019-11-08 00:30
#145
MICHU | 
Europe Zeiv 
Hello, I cant wirte new post so I put it here. Please do new topic with that if u can. If you want to but TaZ's t-shirt from VP you can do it. It is a charity auction for 5 years old boy. charytatywni.allegro.pl/wiktor-taz-wojta..
2019-11-07 17:29
Denmark is sweden but 10x less rapes by arabistanis
2019-11-07 17:30
yeah with this leftist immigrant loving government we'll probably be like you soon aswell
2019-11-07 17:41
Not until radikale gets 51% of the votes
2019-11-11 11:10
that's the same in Finland as well and also Sweden I think
2019-11-07 17:41
#167
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Sweden meistr0 
Yupp
2019-11-07 17:47
yes perkele
2019-11-07 18:43
#162
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China tralia 
nordic more like what the real socialist work, country is operated by a big govrnment, and the govrnment supply tremendous public goods.
2019-11-07 17:45
#165
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Sweden hyllie 
what?! you do know that the market is pretty much free except for alcohol
2019-11-07 17:46
#168
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Sweden meistr0 
"Danish people get free University, and also 400$ every month and thats just for 18 yr olds staying at their parents where food gets payed and where u can play CS without working. Wow man what a fucking gr8 country, i am jealous" Literally the same in Sweden, Finland & probably Norway as well lol.
2019-11-07 17:47
Its not the same at all - the grant is much higher in DK especially at the university : )
2019-11-07 21:52
#262
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Sweden meistr0 
"Its not the same at all" It is.
2019-11-07 21:59
HOW I WOULD KNOW MENS, I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT DENMARK BOT
2019-11-07 22:19
#175
ZywOo | 
Europe fasih1 
Also Sex with strangers is free in their country, loads of incest too.
2019-11-07 17:57
Do you pay for sex?
2019-11-11 08:59
ok loorpock
2019-11-07 18:11
its pretty much the same in Sweden, and I think its good to take care of the people in our society.. but when u get a job and pay that insane amount to the taxagency you cry sometimes :D
2019-11-07 18:43
fake. it's "only" 125€ if you live at your parents. If you don't live at your parents it's 720€ though.
2019-11-07 18:53
Enjoy the fucking huge taxes. The only reason denmark is not dead is because they have no immigrants so the economy can survive even after high taxes.
2019-11-07 21:43
#270
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Denmark Tobias191O 
Some would argue that we have too many immigrants actually.
2019-11-07 22:20
Yeah but your country is relatively small and the number of immigrants in nowhere near to the US for example. In the US everyone just leeches off benefits.
2019-11-07 22:22
#276
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Denmark Tobias191O 
Proportionally speaking they isn't much of a difference. A little above 10% of the danish population are immigrants, while 14% of the US population are immigrants.
2019-11-07 22:24
Quite a few of your immigrants are expats from western countries though
2019-11-08 17:22
this might be the stupidest thing, i've ever read on HLTV, so congrats on that one man.
2019-11-07 22:44
Reply needs to have actual content.
2019-11-08 17:23
You could have started by using facts rather than make up BS.
2019-11-08 17:43
you can find the facts with a google search + denmark has more western expats which count as immigrants than the US
2019-11-08 19:04
Yes, now you post something factual. Your original post said we had no immigrants, but I guess then we should just ignore your BS.
2019-11-08 19:45
"nowhere near" = "none" Denmark education sucks smh
2019-11-08 20:28
You started out by posting "Enjoy the fucking huge taxes. The only reason denmark is not dead is because they have no immigrants so the economy can survive even after high taxes." What part of me referring to your original post was to complicated for you? Was there to many syllables in the word original or is it general understanding that you struggle with?
2019-11-08 21:16
Ah nvm then, i didnt see my older post. But how tf do you think i mean literally 0 immigrants retard
2019-11-10 19:18
Since you wrote it the way you did, clearly you are not the smartest person so how could anyone expect otherwise.
2019-11-10 22:02
Hyperbole maybe?
2019-11-14 14:45
Damn son, i feel sorry for u.
2019-11-07 23:26
wdym?
2019-11-08 17:21
Nothing, it's bs. Good day
2019-11-08 17:53
you too
2019-11-08 18:03
#352
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Denmark Xipingu 
It’s not that high unless you have a ridiculous income. That, and you have some options to reduce it provided you contribute to society or have a long way to work, so it’s never that simple. We still have the highest tax rate in comparison to many countries, but it’s good enough when you learn how it works.
2019-11-08 18:44
Well I prefer to not be taxed 52% thank you very much.
2019-11-08 19:03
#404
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Denmark Xipingu 
It’s 39%. And it’s not the full 39% even. You have got a certain amount of that you can pull from it, so it might be 30-35% instead
2019-11-09 08:37
Average tax is 52% without deductions and even with deductions the tax is aids
2019-11-10 19:17
#446
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Denmark Xipingu 
Mine is 39%. And it’s not because my income is trash - I’ve got more than I can actually spend every month. If it’s 52%, you’re earning a lot more than the average population, at least in Denmark. It’s close to top tax.
2019-11-11 08:49
Still a lot, and im not planning on earning the average amount
2019-11-14 14:45
ty bro .
2019-11-07 21:54
np
2019-11-07 22:19
Sweden same, norway same. We best countries stupid turk.
2019-11-07 21:54
Denmark >Sweden
2019-11-07 22:19
#288
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Sweden hyllie 
no
2019-11-07 22:45
lmao you guys have good life standart. you have good home,school, everything man. but how can you be so bad. i dnt know really. i fuck everything you have. you are a bad person.
2019-11-07 22:33
Agree, Im like only bad person in all of Sweden, thats why I moved to other country to gay around in barcelona.
2019-11-07 22:58
And by the way, I love all the christian turkish people whove fled to Sweden, they are all amazing and kind people. Too bad you jihad isamists hunted them out of their own country.
2019-11-07 23:01
lol man who cares religion. look at the thought. if a Turk is Muslim, it is bad. Christian is good. :DAS:D:AS man gtfo just The religion, in which a person is good or bad, cannot be measured because of his race. like you. you r bad parson. if Muslim or Christian. atheist
2019-11-07 23:36
lol man who cares religion. look at the thought. if a Turk is Muslim, it is bad. Christian is good. :DAS:D:AS man gtfo just The religion, in which a person is good or bad, cannot be measured because of his race. like you. you r bad parson. if Muslim or Christian. atheist
2019-11-07 23:51
#353
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Denmark Xipingu 
Do you? Including my armchair?
2019-11-08 18:45
#282
rko | 
Saudi Arabia WWF 
i saw also in the netherlands. students at the age of 18 get money as well but the amount depends on your mom and dad income. but you need to pay it back afterwards
2019-11-07 22:34
#289
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Denmark WeiZy0 
You don't get 400$ if u're staying home, if ur parents are decent paid. I only get like 100$ - 120$ :)
2019-11-07 22:45
still free money
2019-11-08 19:14
#372
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Denmark WeiZy0 
Its not free. :D But yeah
2019-11-08 21:24
shitty weather though
2019-11-08 00:00
#314
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United States FrothaIPBan 
Denmark is perfectly healthy actually
2019-11-08 00:32
The best country to ever exist in the world #ToTheStars
2019-11-08 00:33
i'm pretty sure that money is a loan and you have to pay it back after your education is done
2019-11-08 00:34
#325
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Denmark Ch4nz9 
That's True , its a Study Loan . U got to pay it back .
2019-11-08 11:27
Yea, thats how it works in sweden so figured it would be the same.
2019-11-08 11:58
Sure, if you take a "study loan", you'll have to pay it back, obv.. But, you get money without taking a loan too.
2019-11-08 12:07
#403
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Finland Jodecast 
The government pays almost half of it when you finish your studies over here :)
2019-11-09 02:04
No! You don't have to pay it back.
2019-11-08 12:06
99% sure that you do. In what kind of utopia can the government just hand out billions ASWELL as free education
2019-11-08 12:12
Well, i'm 100000% sure you don't..
2019-11-08 12:12
+1
2019-11-08 17:38
it's only the student loan you will have to pay back. you get paid a certain amount (depending if you live at home or out), which you won't have to pay back. but the interest rate is very low for the student loan and can basically be paid back whenever you want (more or less). so yes, that utopia exists :D obviously you still have to pay taxes.
2019-11-08 17:31
In some sense you're right, you're paying back to society by hopefully working for many years to come, where you're paying taxes. But you aren't paying back anything directly (unless you take a loan). You could choose to be homeless, not have a job and nobody would come and and try to claim your money.
2019-11-08 23:38
Nah, I meant like literally paying back what you've gotten after your education is over. I however read about how the SU works in Denmark and they actually grant it for free as long as you don't live with your parents. I assumed it was the same as in sweden where you get about 11k€ per month but then have to pay it back however with very low interest rate. Denmarks education is actually a utopia.
2019-11-09 00:04
#351
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Denmark Xipingu 
If you take a student loan yes, but if you manage to live off of the standard payment then no.
2019-11-08 18:22
#326
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Denmark Quientus 
There is “SU” (monthly allowance provided to students by The State) and “SU Loan” which you have to pay back (but its a loan on VERY favorable terms at extremely low interest rate) . Also if you dont live at home you get highest rate regardless, if you study on a collegiate level or above. You Can Apply for The loan on top of your monthly SU ... Pr statistics, as pr 2017, 91% of The US population was coveres by basic Health insurance, however, pr 2017 it was estimated that more than 55% of all bankruptcies filed was due to medical Bills.
2019-11-08 11:29
I love my neighbours in the north. Denmark is a great country.
2019-11-08 17:24
Thank you. Germany is not too bad either. Friendly, organized, great beer.
2019-11-08 17:40
Yes, for the most. But the your details depends. I get about 140$ per month for studying, but have to pay almost 50% in taxes, because i also work in my spare time. And my parents would never just let me play csgo all day instead of working or something else. But overall, we still have very good conditions, and i love it
2019-11-08 17:35
yes men, pure white country))
2019-11-08 17:50
i see what you did there)))
2019-11-08 19:14
LOL TURKEY
2019-11-08 19:04
#359
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Denmark hersej 
Yeah 400 dollars is 2800DKK
2019-11-08 19:06
pretty sick
2019-11-08 19:14
It's a welfare model that works very well actually some American moron journalist talked bout that and she got a great burn in return 😂 can be found on YT I'm sure
2019-11-08 19:20
Cupcake Trish?
2019-11-08 23:39
Haha you remember? XD
2019-11-09 10:19
#470
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Denmark Xipingu 
+1 and haven't heard from her ever since, she got completely rekt
2019-11-15 11:19
If you think about it from a government perspective then this is actually good business. Yes whenever you implode a system there will be people exploring this system(taking stupid educations, not studying at all, EU country's exploiting the system etc) . But the fact that you educate your population you get a higher standard of living because people are earning $$ cause they have a good education. Higher living standard equals more time and more surplus to adjust your own life so you do not have to visit social or medical services in the country. Also a higher educated population will also be less subjectible to propaganda from certain branches. There are a lot of good in giving these money to students imo..
2019-11-08 19:24
" Also a higher educated population will also be less subjectible to propaganda from certain branches" I lol'd my ass off
2019-11-08 23:40
you can lol all you want.... Good luck with your campaign Muhammed...
2019-11-08 23:42
What? You call me Muhammed must mean you are a rightist, and that must also mean that you are agree with me. All the leftist hipsters who love mass immigration ALWAYS have higher education Are you saying those gretea thungberg and mosliim lovers are not brainwashed?
2019-11-08 23:46
You figure it out... I wrote "from certain branches"... Every system has its flaws
2019-11-08 23:49
"Every system has it flaws." That's another subject and not related to what Im saying. Its like you just saw my flag was Swedish and thought I hated on Denmark or something, your replies dont match what I write. All I said is that people with higher education usually are brainwashed leftist who just buys everything.Both in Sweden and Denmark Im engineer and there are some smart people here , but most students are not engineers but socialist scum studying something useless and loving to be opressed by the goverment
2019-11-08 23:51
right and wrong. educated people do not have to be leftist brainwashed by some "we all need to feel good attitude". mostly in DK we have the "wings" dictate the media but for me none of them is the "right" wing. you can not falter one wing without taking down the other. whatever side you choose on the tilt there is nothing that can benefit what I am thinking society should do atm
2019-11-09 00:09
flag checks out
2019-11-08 22:37
#388
dupreeh | 
Denmark yes_ 
actually in some cases one can get $800-900 for studying. but there are terms for that. your parents need to be divorced and have a lower income plus you need to live away from your home while studying.
2019-11-08 23:43
or you could be at least 20 years old...
2019-11-09 00:12
Fucking braindead Trish Regan compared Denmark to Venezuela. If you wanna know spend 3 mins of your life watching this. It will probably answer some questions about danish welfare. youtube.com/watch?v=OG_tg5ldBrQ
2019-11-09 01:18
can't believe people actually compare Denmark to Venezuela in the first place
2019-11-15 11:24
Living in Northern EU is really nice
2019-11-09 17:00
+1 ... but some people say we are all communists. They know nothing
2019-11-10 19:46
#460
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China douglax 
There's no country in the world right now is 100% capitalist or socialist. The performance of governments is more important than the ideologies they claim.
2019-11-11 11:28
#431
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Greece NaviGuy 
Greece bestest 😎
2019-11-09 21:41
everything expensive as fak tho
2019-11-10 19:19
yes Wages and expenses are higher than most other places Nice when you travel from North and feel rich, not nice when you come to the North from other places and see the prices
2019-11-10 19:48
Do you realize that nothing is free and that we pay over 40 % taxes????????????????????????? Now say it again, like everybody, that taxation a scam...
2019-11-11 09:49
You're not getting anywhere near 400 dollars a month, whilst living at home. It depends on how much, your parents are making a year. You can be getting anywhere from 140 dollars and upwards.
2019-11-11 10:13
#466
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Denmark Kon10R 
You may not have the full picture ... You can't stay at home for long doing "nothing". The "system" will come after you, if you are +18 and unemployed. From experience I can tell you: You wouldn't want that.
2019-11-11 12:33
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