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Are they should drop NA roster and sign some powerful team from EU? Now they're not even in top5 and Liquid is probably richest org in CS scene
2019-11-10 14:41
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#1
chrisJ | 
Netherlands Rogierd 
Its a Dutch organisation, so europe team make more sense :)
2019-11-10 14:42
Europe CS other than astralis suck tho
2019-11-10 15:26
Fnatic? Vitality?
2019-11-10 15:44
Both trash
2019-11-10 16:07
0/8 xD
2019-11-10 19:14
#89
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Denmark hersej 
They are 3 and 4 best in the world
2019-11-10 20:47
#91
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United States _icedtea 
this is coming from a person who lives in the country"other" probably also picked the gender "other" edit: spelling
2019-11-10 20:49
#90
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United States _icedtea 
fnatic > vitality
2019-11-10 20:48
Zywootality. HAHAHAHA 0/8
2019-11-10 20:55
#53
NiKo | 
United Kingdom ExCeL1234 
It's the best region in cs?
2019-11-10 19:18
Yea you're right, every other team in the scene is inconsistent and sucks atm
2019-11-10 19:44
they have both na and eu facilities
2019-11-10 19:19
it's actually an american org as well, so.
2019-11-10 20:46
Its from Utrecht. Ok NAF
2019-11-10 20:55
2019-11-10 21:19
What city? Where is the office? Ok NAF
2019-11-11 20:21
#2
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Netherlands PasscaLl 
g2 is so much richer
2019-11-10 14:42
No way, Liquid is older org and much more successful than G2 i mean they have top tier team in almost every single game
2019-11-10 14:43
#19
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Netherlands PasscaLl 
ur right sorry
2019-11-10 14:50
#57
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Spain BRAZlL 
R6 :)
2019-11-10 19:25
#13
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United States TrashPanda 
Team Liquid 1,600+ tournaments, 33 mil+ earnings G2 360+ tournaments, 6 mil+ earnings Lmfao.
2019-11-10 14:48
#77
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United Kingdom Vitheeshan 
I mean theres always OG, sure carried by DOTA but still Team Liquid $33,933,882.53 1633 Tournaments OG $33,415,265.90 70 Tournaments
2019-11-10 19:58
#21
Xyp9x | 
Cyprus Xeeh 
Liquid is worth way more than G2
2019-11-10 14:53
#3
Slovakia 4NTEP 
powerful team from EU
2019-11-10 14:42
#5
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Russia LeGoBoys 
Faze is richest you dumb
2019-11-10 14:44
Some bunch of stupid and cringe youtubers??? Liquid have top tier team in almost every esport title
2019-11-10 14:45
#39
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Russia NikSmoK 
LoL and Dota? No good rosters. Same with Cs and R6.
2019-11-10 15:17
They're top3 team in dota, i mean their teams always are top5 In LoL chinese orgs is runned by multi-billionaires so it's pretty hard to compete against them
2019-11-10 15:19
#46
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Russia NikSmoK 
Their dota team not even in top10 right now(they lost their TI finalists roster). LoL team always Not Advancing.
2019-11-10 15:39
They came second at MSI on LoL this year.
2019-11-10 19:17
Their LoL team always wins the NA LCS Finals too (however to be fair, NA isn't very good at LoL in terms of the global scene)
2019-11-10 19:45
What concerns me is that because the NA orgs has so much money they buy in the best players from the free agency market from the other regions instead of putting some time and effort in to nourish their own people from NA. Want to see more good NA players.
2019-11-10 19:51
#84
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United States @FyreCS 
Yes mens)))))
2019-11-10 20:31
+1
2019-11-11 01:35
#64
NAF | 
India FosFate 
Top15 in LoL. Top3 in DOTA Top5 in CS. Peaked at #1 in Dota and CS. Pretty non existent in R6S, but yeah.
2019-11-10 19:34
#79
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Russia NikSmoK 
Kuroky roster leave Lulquid for creating new org with team. So they have no dota roster. top 15 in lol(worse than any LCK/LPL team and worse than top3 EU)
2019-11-10 20:12
#81
NAF | 
India FosFate 
LoL list is very complex because no direct competition most of the time, so I give a pass there. KuroKy and rest left like 2 months ago, they were Top 2-3 before that
2019-11-10 20:25
liquid is the richest esport org
2019-11-10 15:42
"Powerful team from EU" LMAO I laughed. Good joke.
2019-11-10 14:44
ZyWoo Electronic Aleksib Ropz/Brollan KRIMZ
2019-11-10 14:44
#9
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Canada k3l 
still would get fuckd by elige and twistzz
2019-11-10 14:46
Probably electronic alone is better than them combined so just no, just fucking no, not even talking about big ZyWOOOOO
2019-11-10 14:47
Who? Call relevant names. I know Zywoo, at least.
2019-11-10 14:48
If 4th best player isn't relevant then you have some serious brain disability
2019-11-10 14:50
#29
Xyp9x | 
Cyprus Xeeh 
4th best player? Elige?
2019-11-10 14:55
Electronic, They have same rating but EliGE rating is boosted by krieg
2019-11-10 15:00
#36
Xyp9x | 
Cyprus Xeeh 
Yeah and how many things has electronic won
2019-11-10 15:13
You want to measure their skill via trophies won?
2019-11-10 15:15
Elige is 3rd bro
2019-11-10 19:26
#97
Xyp9x | 
Cyprus Xeeh 
Zywoo simple device
2019-11-11 05:56
#65
NAF | 
India FosFate 
Zywoo has a different kind of dominance when in game. electronic is as good as twistzz (overall; twistzz still better aimer) EliGE is definitely better than electronic
2019-11-10 19:36
Twistzz have just good aim that's all, Electronic is much more better at spraying and creating the space and opening the sites and he's far more lethal and consistent than Twistzz, EliGE is just NA Electronic their playstyle is pretty similar but EliGE rely too much on krieg even he admit it without krieg he will be still good player but no way better than electronic which is capable to winning games alone P.S EliGE already hits his peak, While electronic still can improve a lot
2019-11-10 19:40
#72
NAF | 
India FosFate 
I agree with first part, Twistzz is inconsistent. EliGE just became better thanks to Krieg, even without it, he was best in Liquid (equated with NAF during that time). EliGE is playing at his peak performance right now (and for past 6-8 months), he has been performing even when team has ben playing shit. Also, he is also only 22, and electronic is 21. They both have lot to grow. And if electronic is capable of making NaVi win series alone, why hasn't Na'Vi won a single tournament this year?
2019-11-10 19:47
Well they actually won big event this year, Also they have a great semifinal game vs Liquid but thankfully to s1mple Liquid edge them out, Like i said just compare EliGE from last year (without OP Krieg) to current year (OP krieg) i agree he is by far the best and most consistent player maybe except NAF which is crazy hybrid player but i bet my hand if you give electronic better team without toxic noob he can win more tournaments than Elige and have rating above 1.25 P.S I can agree Electronic english is not best but hello jackz was able to learn basics in just one month, And surely they do not have to live together in gaming house
2019-11-10 19:58
#78
NAF | 
India FosFate 
Comparing electronic with last year's EliGE is doing injustice to EliGE. He has also improved significantly. But yeah I agree, s1mple drags the entire team down a lot due his toxicity.
2019-11-10 19:58
#12
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Bulgaria overflowww 
do you know how much they need to pay to obtain this lineup? zywoo and papatronic cant even speak english properly + they wont leave a top team just to gamble on some randoms LUL
2019-11-10 14:47
Like i said above, Liquid didn't care about few millions since they're richest org in CS I'm sure Zywoo and papa are able to speak english at at least communicative level P.S JackZ also didn't even know single word in English but after month he is able to speak pretty good
2019-11-10 14:49
#28
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Bulgaria overflowww 
but why would liquid gamble on some random team potentially losing millions when they have a solid top 5 team who already proved themselves as top contender ? that's not how business works men)))
2019-11-10 14:53
Yeah i know it, But if you have: One of the best IGL in the world (Aleksib) Probably best player and AWP in the world (Zywoo) Best entry fragger (electronic) Good anchor and support (KRIMZ) And promising lurker (Ropz/Brollan) It's pretty hard to them to be worse than current roster
2019-11-10 14:55
#31
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Bulgaria overflowww 
stopped reading at aleksib one of the best igl
2019-11-10 14:56
Then who is better than him except Gla1ve? and maybe stan
2019-11-10 14:58
In a interview a while back they said that Aleksib didn't bring anything to the table as an IGL, he just executed the coach tactics on his command. That's why they replaced him, they thought that bringing in more firepower would be more efficient to their team.
2019-11-10 19:23
If this is actually a true, why ENCE felt off?
2019-11-10 19:30
Don't know, but maybe it's because Aleksib fit the team better than Sunny has so far.
2019-11-10 19:36
I don't think so, Still i think Aleksib is a little bit overrated but still top-tier IGL imo, With him ENCE was consistent top10 team without him they will be out of top30 soon
2019-11-10 19:42
you're one of those people who thinks throwing together a bunch of amazing players will work, aren't you?
2019-11-10 14:50
If you have one of the best IGL in the world i don't see any problems
2019-11-10 14:52
really? communication needs to be good, so does chemistry. Not to mention this is a clusterfuck in terms of roles
2019-11-10 14:53
#55
NiKo | 
United Kingdom ExCeL1234 
Did you see the FaZe experiment?
2019-11-10 19:20
Well please do not compare Aleksib and Niko as IGLs
2019-11-10 19:29
#62
NiKo | 
United Kingdom ExCeL1234 
Hello? Karrigan?
2019-11-10 19:30
Well then imo it was good lineup, their problem was they're all chokers and ZyWoo >>> Prime NiKo Electronic >> Prime Rain KRiMZ > Olofmeister Aleksib > Karrigan Ropz/Brollan >> GuardiaN
2019-11-10 19:36
ZyWoo < Prime Niko Electronic > Prime Rain KRIMZ < Olof AleksiB = Karrigan Ropz/Brollan < GuardiaN
2019-11-10 20:26
No way Prime NiKo was better than Zywoo, Zywoo 1.29 in his rookie year while Prime NiKo had 1.25 at best
2019-11-10 20:37
hltv.org/stats/players/3741/NiKo?event=2.. Niko's best big event: 1.70 Rating 2.0 hltv.org/stats/players/11893/ZywOo?event.. ZyWoo's best big event: 1.41 Rating 2.0 Yes, ZyWoo right now is miles ahead of Niko and what will be prime ZyWoo probably will be far better than prime Niko. But, prime Niko was better than current ZyWoo
2019-11-10 22:30
#85
NiKo | 
United Kingdom ExCeL1234 
No
2019-11-10 20:35
thats such a random lineup. none of them would leave their current team (excluding aleksib ofc) and electronic doesnt even speak english
2019-11-10 19:33
#10
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Russia ToughGuy 
yeah better sign powerful team from south africa
2019-11-10 14:46
#16
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United States TrashPanda 
Yes disband their roster that made their org by far the most money last year lmfao. Makes sense.
2019-11-10 14:49
Don't live in the past brother, They just suck right now, maybe except EliGE
2019-11-10 14:51
#23
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United States TrashPanda 
Okay.
2019-11-10 14:51
#18
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Turkey headshotk1ng 
Astralis will become richer soon by only having a csgo lineup while all the other clans have a team almost in every esport xaxaxaxa #ez4ASSfuckTRALIS
2019-11-10 14:50
#35
s1mple | 
Australia karmaYB 
+1
2019-11-10 15:00
#24
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Spain akproxx 
0/8
2019-11-10 14:52
#26
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United States TrashPanda 
2019-11-10 14:53
Just look at org value, Liquid is almost over $400 billions
2019-11-10 14:58
#42
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Australia Raychippy 
$400billion? HAHAHAHA
2019-11-10 15:20
Maybe if they were owned by Apple LUL
2019-11-10 20:28
#38
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Australia Raychippy 
and you're dumb for not even looking at sponsorships and whatnot. You're only looking at prize money edit: nvm didn't see that second link
2019-11-10 15:20
#43
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United States TrashPanda 
<3
2019-11-10 15:22
LuLquid
2019-11-10 15:17
#44
NAF | 
United States skzl_ 
quality bait
2019-11-10 15:24
Liquid good against thirst
2019-11-10 15:49
imagine dropping your most marketable team in a region of 400+ million people that includes the richest country in the history of the world for an EU team that either is too expensive or too cheap to be a good team.
2019-11-10 19:25
#75
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Austria epiXYZ 
In a dead game like csgo, where u cant even ship big prizepools lmao
2019-11-10 19:52
#73
gla1ve | 
Denmark flapdur 
I think their roster is good, they just need to regroup ... and maybe replace 2K They will be back
2019-11-10 19:51
Stop making stupid suggestions like this one just because the team isn't #1. If you used this logic every team would be changing their roster every second week. Another stupid thread.
2019-11-10 20:15
#87
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Indonesia lukerey 
Every team other than astralis are sucks right now. They probably just lost some motivation after winning the grand slam. They will comeback stronger next year with/without stew. So doesn't need to make roster changes for now, especially an EU mix. Lul
2019-11-10 20:43
no /closed
2019-11-11 06:05
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