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Krieg nerf alternative ?
ZywOo | 
Asia 7RU7H 
seems like valve is ok with the krieg's current status so why not instead of nerfing it, making the m4 1heashot kill... i dont even know why its not 1 headshot kill from the beginning.. i mean common this rifle obviously kills with 1 bullet in the head...
2019-11-12 00:21
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So the maps aren't too CT sided Something which all rifles should have is increased accuracy in general
2019-11-12 00:25
Why increase it?
2019-11-12 00:26
To decrease RNG
2019-11-12 00:26
And what is it?
2019-11-12 00:31
#15
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Lithuania LuckyBitch 
Random Number Generator, commonly used to refer to simply "random", in this case spray patterns
2019-11-12 00:34
Okey, but patterns are something you should learn And game is better if there is something you can learn and practice
2019-11-12 07:06
the spray pattern still exists the guns would just have less spread
2019-11-12 07:14
#23
xartE | 
Finland Walrus24 
But you cant practice and learn spray patterns with rng on because it makes the spray patterns random
2019-11-12 08:56
Yes, and that’s why there should be less inaccuracy; to Reward players who know the spray pattern.
2019-11-12 17:47
#30
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Europe tweekzter 
absolutely agree place yourself on aim_botz, aim directly on head of a bot at the wall with ak. 1 out of 4 times you will miss. that is a bit too random imo.
2019-11-12 09:27
lol that would lead to NiKo era after ZywOo and s1mple era.
2019-11-12 13:47
#34
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Europe SOEZ4NIK0 
Literally this
2019-11-12 13:49
well thats just wrong, standing still and if you aim at the centre of the head then u never miss.
2019-11-12 13:49
#38
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United States _icedtea 
well thats just wrong. awp -> stand still -> hipfire -> hit 1/10 times
2019-11-12 13:51
#40
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Europe tweekzter 
There's a specific inaccuracy to each weapon. With AK a little more than M4, M4 more than M4-S and so on... Try it out yourself. If you are on platform A site on dust2 and someone is around pit. Aim exactly on head and you will only kill him 75% of the time. The other 25% it's not your fault, but the game decides to throw in a little randomness.
2019-11-12 20:18
im talking about the ak not the awp, i thought you were talking about the standard aim_botz distance in which if you do aim centre of head the inaccuracy is not large enough to miss.
2019-11-13 10:10
#48
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Europe tweekzter 
I am not talking about the AWP. I am talking about rifles, especially the AK, on long distance. Like Dust2 A spot to pit, nuke outside T side to garage, etc.
2019-11-13 10:55
i think we are both correct. at those distances you are talking about its not 100% accurate but at the standard aim_botz length it is.
2019-11-13 22:22
TT have to enter the side, which is harder, so the AK is 1-hs kill, that's the basic reason
2019-11-12 00:24
#24
xartE | 
Finland Walrus24 
Its also because ak fires 7.62 while m4 fires 5.56
2019-11-12 08:56
#31
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Liechtenstein Niko0 
Well, if you want to test that theory ask someone to shoot you in the head with 5.56 and tell me it wasnt one shot kill. (DISCLAIMER!!!! = Do not do this actually you will die even from .22lr)
2019-11-12 11:04
#32
xartE | 
Finland Walrus24 
Waat m4 kills if pleb not wearing helmet
2019-11-12 13:45
#3
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United States asaprocky 
buff awp
2019-11-12 00:25
#8
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United States dev_number1_ce 
+1
2019-11-12 00:28
No, bad idea Majority of best players in the world right now are snipers, and there is a reason why
2019-11-12 00:32
All hybrids, none are dedicated awpers
2019-11-12 07:16
2.5/5 top 5 players of 2018 were awpers (s1,device,niko hybrid) but only 20% of players use awp... why is 50% of top 5 awpers if it is only used by 20% of players as a whole? bc it is already op, don’t need to nerf it... should be op bc it cost 4750 but it does not need to be any better
2019-11-12 09:21
1/8 tbf AWP should have 20% kills no? But even AWPers have 50% kills with AWP among all rifle kills at most and dedicated AWPers have become sort of hybrid.
2019-11-12 13:50
#4
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Norway m16rlul 
Cuz then m4 would be superior to the ak
2019-11-12 00:25
alternative: Man up, stop crying, stop losing gun to opponent
2019-11-12 00:26
Buff auto, make it 1 shot anywhere in body and add killstreak bonus. Like wh for 3 rounds if you get 10kills or something like that
2019-11-12 00:30
+1 this guy should work in valvo
2019-11-12 09:10
#11
EliGE | 
Turkey kuzani4 
Making ak more consistent is better way i think so no need to nerf sg
2019-11-12 00:31
I agree give ak 100% acc and scope then it becomes a matter of preference
2019-11-12 00:33
#16
EliGE | 
Turkey kuzani4 
Ur a very smart guy it seems
2019-11-12 00:35
#21
kennyS | 
India Ryuota 
name doesn't check out though
2019-11-12 08:47
yeah and deagle with scope and 20 bullet mag
2019-11-13 10:50
#13
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United States jay_320 
The alternative is to buff the AUG back. Which no one wants. So there really is no alternative to nerfing the Krieg. At least if you want CSGO back. The scoped rifles suck because they equalize the playing field. Making it so that great riflers and great M4 players specifically have a much harder time shining. This fucking sucks and isn't good for the pro scene which is what we're all here for in the first place.
2019-11-12 00:33
#22
kennyS | 
India Ryuota 
or remove the scope and revert the aug so the aim duels are won by better skill and not scope.
2019-11-12 08:48
yeh lets just remove this 20year old feature because people never understood it was actually pretty good
2019-11-12 09:25
#44
kennyS | 
India Ryuota 
well yes XD you're right but thats the only way skill group can stay high without worsening these guns accuracy imo
2019-11-13 10:46
make them pricier, people never bought them because they thought that they werent worth it, them when they lowered the price and did nothing else people caught on onto how fucking good they are, so now they should increase price so its a decision between a scope or couple utility
2019-11-13 17:55
#52
kennyS | 
India Ryuota 
that, imo still wont help as winning a few rounds will bring out sg and then it will be even harder for cts in a long run to win... especially with the worse aug. In order to counter this sg, they have to revert aug if they only want to increase prices of the guns tbh
2019-11-14 07:35
0/8
2019-11-12 07:18
They should nerf krieg. Some options: - increase the price to +3000k - make it semiauto - lower the damage - increase recoil when scoped and make spraying while moving impossible. - scoping in is slower than now. Now its like instant.
2019-11-12 09:07
#29
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Latvia Dettheroc 
Literally just raise the price. I hope they don't nerf it or nerf it slightly. No fun in going from played-a-lot to never played at all. Price increase so that players think twice about getting krieg should be it... like 3300-3500
2019-11-12 09:26
#37
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Europe SOEZ4NIK0 
they should make it 3150 imo so there is still a gap between how much T guns cost and how much CT guns cost
2019-11-12 13:51
#41
Mexico amdy 
M4 1 shot head shot? no pls
2019-11-12 20:19
Buff M4A1 to its pre-2015 Nerf state
2019-11-12 20:38
#45
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Serbia toENDallWARS 
ITS TRUE AK IS 1 HEADSHOTS SO THE CT SHOULD HAVE 1 HEADSHOTS M4
2019-11-13 10:48
No one bullet headshot kill and lower fire rate. This is the only way to make the game attractive again. Also increase the price of ak and krieg so you cant but them immediately after first round even if you won the pistol round
2019-11-13 10:50
#49
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Finland M0nzaa 
Maybe smaller zoom on the scope and make it slower to scope. Increase the price to 2900
2019-11-13 11:09
#54
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Denmark baccster 
I always wonder how the gameplay would change if it was increased to $2900 and made it 20 bullets in the magazine.
2019-11-14 07:42
#53
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Denmark baccster 
Making m4 one shot would make every map 10-5 CT side favor.
2019-11-14 07:40
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