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4>0 yes
2019-11-14 14:38
#2
Get_Rice | 
Denmark KFB4 
+1
2019-11-14 14:40
27cm > 13cm yes
2019-11-14 17:22
#229
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Germany Sonnabend 
nt 13>27
2019-11-15 16:24
#3
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
0/8 goat s1mple > ALL
2019-11-14 14:40
#8
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Greece NaviGuy 
+1
2019-11-14 14:53
DEVICE 4 MAJOR S1MPLE 0 MAJOR DEVICE 1.26 60 GAMES SIMPLE 1.23 40 GAMES
2019-11-14 15:15
ok, same logic s1mple 1 top 1 dev2ce 0 top 1
2019-11-14 15:22
Same logic Dev1ce 3 TOP3 S2mple 1 TOP3 Same logic Dev1ce 14 MVP S2mple 9 MVP
2019-11-14 15:26
#23
Bosnia and Herzegovina cobe 
e ovdje te sjebo
2019-11-14 15:27
#168
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
hahah +1
2019-11-15 11:48
Und deine Mutter ist eine hässliche Hure, Spassti.
2019-11-16 01:15
ma majka ti kurvetina
2019-11-16 21:56
Keine Sau interessiert sich für dich oder deine hässliche Verwandschaft. Verpiss dich, du Untermensch.
2019-11-16 22:24
TOP3 Hahahahahahhahahaha
2019-11-14 16:50
#78
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India NoAimNoGam3 
32-2
2019-11-14 17:03
Completely relevant in a discussion of who is better between s1mple and device. Yep
2019-11-14 18:14
32-2
2019-11-14 19:59
Baguette out of their caves they been hiding since 2016
2019-11-14 20:05
WERE IS BELGIUM SCENE ?
2019-11-15 09:32
#137
Xyp9x | 
Cyprus Xeeh 
All posting about how scream is the best aimer ever
2019-11-15 09:50
Try again :)
2019-11-15 22:35
#157
shox | 
France Zyw0o1v9 
getting kicked out of T3 teams and streaming faceit and mm *cough*
2019-11-15 10:56
Too dumb to realize that someone is fakeflagging, but baguettes don’t have brain cells.
2019-11-15 16:18
#238
i am | 
Brazil |LUCAS1| 
32-2
2019-11-15 17:21
Oh look another narrow-minded user who can’t keep up with the topic :)
2019-11-15 20:38
32-2?
2019-11-15 21:35
#259 You keep trying that, it still doesn’t change what I wrote lmao
2019-11-15 22:34
#268
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Lithuania aikaz45 
lul faze clan 32-2 thats why ur salty
2019-11-15 22:39
LUL too dumb to realize that this has got nothing to do with that, you narrow-minded fuck. I have been making fun of LULSTRALIS and ecov2ce fangirls for a long time. This loss won’t change nothing lmao. As if I care
2019-11-15 23:52
32-2
2019-11-16 19:21
#297
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Lithuania aikaz45 
ye you totally dont seem to care :D lul get rekt noob clan 32-2 lul. #lul up
2019-11-18 21:40
So mad because of 32-2 hahaha
2019-11-22 08:40
#170
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Australia Artikle13 
0-28
2019-11-15 11:46
13-5 without teammates help 😉
2019-11-15 16:18
#236
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India NoAimNoGam3 
Oh shit I didn't know device was not as good an aimer as s1mple
2019-11-15 17:19
He is also not as smart as s1mple is
2019-11-15 20:34
32-2 ;)
2019-11-15 22:36
Baguette talking, how cute ;)
2019-11-15 23:50
#130
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Finland Love_God 
s1mple once top 1 (fluke) GOAT dev1ce consistent top3/5 NT
2019-11-15 09:37
#153
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India NoAimNoGam3 
+1
2019-11-15 10:46
#171
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Australia Artikle13 
S1mple top2 this year aswel, lmfao. Fakeflagger brain
2019-11-15 11:46
#173
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Finland Love_God 
Im not f-flagging. Your flair checks out
2019-11-15 11:53
#178
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Australia Artikle13 
You were indian. Nt fake flagger
2019-11-15 12:03
Consistent = being average S1mple or Zywoo or cold slump/ worst year = ecov2ce peak.
2019-11-15 16:19
If you're consistently in the top does that mean you're average? Why don't you rub your two brain cells together and come up with an answer. Also 32-2, is NiKo still in therapy after Dupreeh anally raped him?
2019-11-15 17:41
So if he is so consistent where is his top1 ? Idc and Idgaf about his top20, top100 placings. It’s still is a fact: s1mple, cold, Zywoo worst year = ecov2ce peak. Also, have you always been as narrow-minded and mentally challenged ? Couldn’t give more of a fuck about 32-2 and Choko problems, but nt, LULSTRALIS dickrider :)
2019-11-15 20:36
32-2
2019-11-15 22:38
If you don't care about the 32-2 loss why are you so trigged. Ohh and cry is free btw.
2019-11-15 22:52
I have been making fun of LULSTRALIS because how bandwagoners like you overrate and overhype them. And a few players from their roster. But keep bring up 32-2, you are too dumb and retarded to get it. It’s easier: “yOu aRe mAd bEcAuSe oF 32-2”. So fucking narrow-minded, expected from dan
2019-11-15 23:56
If you weren't mentally challenged you would remember all I did was correcting your improper use of the word average (which you clearly don't understand the meaning of). The hole 32-2 is just an added bonus to make fun of fake flagging faze fans like you. 32-2, what a humiliation, getting 16-0 in a IEM tournament, wow. It was even crazier when you know how advanced tactics Faze was using like "rush b" or default etc, that Niko is a tactical mastermind I tell you.
2019-11-16 00:18
Dan, you gonna come up with something creative ? Ecov2ce is average. Impossible to get carried by teammates to top1 right ? 32-2 what a humiliation indeed. Sadly I don’t give a fuck, try again. Moreover I don’t give more fucks about Choko. You try so hard, narrow-minded Dan, you think this is gonna trigger me, but it didn’t, retarded dickrider. Try again :)
2019-11-16 02:04
32-2
2019-11-22 08:41
#85
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
dev2ce 0 top1 all undeserved mvps goat s1mple 1 top 1 all deserved mvps
2019-11-14 17:10
#270
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Lithuania aikaz45 
well cold and getright were top 1's twice... so simple can simply be the bronze medal
2019-11-15 22:41
#281
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
0/8 gtr 1 only 1 was stolen from flusha so doesnt count cold 0 cuz taco
2019-11-16 00:14
#296
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Lithuania aikaz45 
Dude if you win- you win if you lose -you lose. I say 2 + 2 = 4 , you say 2+2=0 because both of those two didnt deserve to be numbers . Stats dont care about your feelings. And simple can get his bronze medal and be happy because hes not better than zywoo this year. so he might not even hold that medal for long :D
2019-11-18 21:41
#200
Xyp9x | 
Russia Ypp1 
past 3 month btw Astralis fuck every1 Na`Vi suck everywhere
2019-11-15 12:51
Blind s0mple fanboy still in denial. S1mple is gonna lose his #1 spot to Zywoo anyway. Washed up s0mple will never win a major lol.
2019-11-14 20:08
#117
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
0/8
2019-11-14 20:14
#123
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India NoAimNoGam3 
That's how many majors he gonna win in his career lmao
2019-11-15 05:45
#131
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Finland Love_God 
+1 KEK
2019-11-15 09:37
#207
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
nt NoAimNoGam3's alt
2019-11-15 13:06
Lmao rekt
2019-11-15 10:33
#208
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
nt NoAimNoGame3's alt
2019-11-15 13:06
Lmao
2019-11-15 10:34
#209
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
nt NoAimNoGame3's alt
2019-11-15 13:06
Nt s1mple
2019-11-15 13:10
#210
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
No thats how many toilets your people get per house in your country
2019-11-15 13:07
Still 0 majors LULW
2019-11-15 13:16
#218
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India NoAimNoGam3 
I have two at my home for 3 people, so nice try but 0/8 --> the number of majors for s1mple.
2019-11-15 14:38
#219
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
than why do you guys poop on streets?
2019-11-15 14:56
So that we don't completely shit upon you xaxaxaxaxa
2019-11-15 15:10
#230
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
haHAA nt but you guys still poop on streets
2019-11-15 16:28
xaxaxaxaxaxa +1
2019-11-16 19:25
+1000
2019-11-15 12:49
+1
2019-11-15 06:52
#4
s1mple | 
Lithuania Gigska 
2019-11-14 14:40
Damn what a savage
2019-11-15 09:49
#158
shox | 
France Zyw0o1v9 
Destroyed cuck device trying to be cool and smart
2019-11-15 10:57
#5
NiKo | 
Croatia mimi031 
Device has 4 majors and knows that he is nowere near individual skill of s1mple. S1mple has best individual skill in game but knows that just with that he will never win a major. I bet that he would trade half od his skills for 1 major. As he said :"i cant be called the best cuz best players win majors" (something like that but u get the point " For me device is better cuz of his accomplishments and cuz he put the numbers every final he was in.
2019-11-14 14:46
"he put the numbers every final he was in"... Yeah, no. hltv.org/news/19762/astralis-win-the-ele..
2019-11-14 14:52
#11
NiKo | 
Croatia mimi031 
What about the rest od the 3 finals?
2019-11-14 15:10
"he put the numbers every final he was in" *Provides the link to the final where the whole storyline was about kjaerbye having a monstrous showing when dev1ce played like crap* "wHaT aBouT tHe rEsT oD ThE 3 fInALs?"
2019-11-14 16:09
#118
NiKo | 
Croatia mimi031 
ok my bad he put numbers in 3 out of 4 majors he won. lets call him a shitty player now. is that ok for u?
2019-11-14 20:48
Who called him a shitty player?
2019-11-15 03:32
#188
NiKo | 
Croatia mimi031 
U just came here to argue, u didnt even give opinion on my comment...
2019-11-15 12:27
Opinion- when you choke at a final you don't get to be called a player that puts up numbers every final.
2019-11-15 12:55
#215
NiKo | 
Croatia mimi031 
Im talking about s1mple and device comparison. Whats ur opinion on them?
2019-11-15 13:54
#260
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Denmark Sir_Cumcised 
I for one actually get your point
2019-11-15 21:45
like s1mple always carried in major finals right...? 2 major finals and his ratings? 0.63 and 0.81
2019-11-14 15:22
Who was talking about s1mple? The guy said dev1ce put up numbers *every* final, which is false
2019-11-14 16:00
You are genuinely retarded.
2019-11-14 16:51
fan of s1mple?
2019-11-14 17:42
fAn oF SiMpLe ? ? ? #7 was talking about ecov2ce total inability to carry on the deciding map of the grand final during Eleague Major and the fact that he was carried by shakerbye to his first major, but you managed to bring in s0mple in there.
2019-11-14 18:21
its topic about device AND s1mple if you didnt notice...and funny thing is that the worst major final of device is still better than the best major final of s1mple LMAO
2019-11-14 18:51
Funny thing is ecov2ce faced inferior competition compared to s0mple and had no one to carry him 🤷🏿‍♂️ LMAO
2019-11-14 20:05
omegalul this has to be the most retarded exucse like EVER. mad s1mple fanboy
2019-11-15 00:43
So which GOAT teams did ecov2ce faced to beat... oh sorry, get carried to a W. Ence ? Where is this meme team ? VP ? Do they exist now ? S1mplus Electronicere with deadweights like raging inconsistent fat fuck, Zeus and BOTward. And Avangar. That’s some great competition right there. But keep changing the subject and keep presenting zero arguments. Expected from a dumb CIS bandwagoner :) Still doesn’t change the fact that shakerbye carried ecov2ce back during ELEAGUE Major Grand final :)
2019-11-15 16:22
lmao so mad and deluded at the same time:DDD is it even possible? mad s1mple fanboy OMEGALUL
2019-11-15 16:31
Still no counter-arguments from mentally challenged CIS bandwagoner aidstrike. Is this all your CIS brain could come up with ? LMAO
2019-11-15 20:33
So mad hahahaha Jesus you are funny
2019-11-15 20:36
Managed to bring up Jesus. Anything else, mentally challenged CIS bandwagoner after you have taken another L ? :)
2019-11-15 20:40
Please continue hahahahaha
2019-11-15 20:41
pLeAsE cOnTiNuE
2019-11-15 21:32
Hahahahahahahahahajajajjaj
2019-11-15 22:07
;) 3 2 2
2019-11-15 22:38
#132
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Finland Love_God 
1 off day, -7 isn't even *that* bad. He was still 4th best overall rated player of the event
2019-11-15 09:39
But still carried by shakerbye 😂
2019-11-15 23:50
#12
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Russia UNDERATE 
great opinion
2019-11-14 15:13
#6
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Brazil nerdjerkland 
ZywOo > s1mple > device
2019-11-14 14:47
Device 14mvp, 4 majors Zywoo and s1mple combined don't even have 14 mvps and 0 majors just lul device>>>>>all
2019-11-14 14:59
Yeah because Astralis is full of bots and device has to carry just like Na'Vi and Vitality. Stfu.
2019-11-14 15:19
#134
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Finland Love_God 
Iq? Dev1ce doesn't even have to carry his team and still puts up great numbers.
2019-11-15 09:41
sArCaSm asking for iq lookin ass
2019-11-15 13:19
How long has ZywOo been in the top scene? Device has been there longer then ZywOo
2019-11-14 15:24
ZywOo was never better than S1mple in period. Check stats.
2019-11-14 15:27
Delusional much? Even the pros said in an interview that ZywOo is better than S1 so your opinion doesn't really weight much.
2019-11-15 12:32
#256
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Poland s0ze 
Ukrainian fanboy never will understand anyway... s0mple baiter and still worse than ZywOo
2019-11-15 21:26
hltv.org/stats?startDate=2019-01-01&endD.. S1mple is top1 of 2018-2019.
2019-11-14 16:38
#74
device | 
Denmark bebm 
s1mple how many mvps? how many evps? how many tournaments won (with astralis and liquid attending)
2019-11-14 17:01
Check his account, why you asking me? He has a lot of MVPs and EVPs.
2019-11-14 17:07
#83
device | 
Denmark bebm 
2019 S1mple 1 mvp ZywOo 4 mvps /close
2019-11-14 17:09
/open this year is not finished yet /close
2019-11-14 17:10
#86
device | 
Denmark bebm 
so far zywoo > s1mple this year /close
2019-11-14 17:11
2019-11-14 17:12
#93
device | 
Denmark bebm 
unfortunately, 3 extra mvps, better results, and more deep runs overtakes a 0.01 rating
2019-11-14 17:16
#135
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Finland Love_God 
+111111111111
2019-11-15 09:41
hltv cares about big event rating :) Zywoo overtakes simple there. So your argument is pointless
2019-11-15 11:03
Me 😎 >>> random LEM with AWP >>>>> silver with AWP >>>>>>>>>>>>> random citizen who doesn't play games >>> device
2019-11-14 14:54
dev4ce_4_major_GuyYouEverMet_0_major 😎😎😎
2019-11-15 06:04
hltv.org/player/885/olofmeister Goat>newfagsilverawper
2019-11-14 15:15
#15
HEN1 | 
Cambodia JW44 
dev1ce play for team s1mple play for himself so, for me dev1ce is better.
2019-11-14 15:16
How is that S1mple play for himself? Any proof?
2019-11-14 15:27
#26
HEN1 | 
Cambodia JW44 
just see how he play, everybody know he is toxic and always trying 1v1 with enemy, when can just wait for team in 2 or 3v1 situation, thats sometimes fucks navi. btw for me if he fix it will be the #1 player all years. he have the better skilling from cs:go ofc, the real beast
2019-11-14 15:37
1. I agree he might be toxic, mostly in FPL / other Online matches. He is much rarely toxic when he plays with his team/organization. 2. His agressive and risky plays giving Na`Vi benefits more times than they lose because of that. Someone got to take responsibilities and do something. Risky plays = big chances to lose a round, but most of the time, risky plays = increasing chances to win round cuz of unpredictability.
2019-11-14 15:40
This.
2019-11-14 16:35
There's no more unpredictability. Players always know s1mple will repeek. His agression hasn't got navi anywhere since starseries s7, cuz teams know how to counter him. It would be better for him to not waste his skill by playing calculated
2019-11-15 10:40
#21
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Russia oldbiven 
s1mple 13-5 dev1ce OMEN challenge xDDD
2019-11-14 15:26
lol
2019-11-15 11:04
yea ofc, device is really good at holding angles with his one shot gun and clicking mouse 1, that takes a lot of skill
2019-11-14 15:35
:D
2019-11-14 15:40
#32
jks | 
United Kingdom TC10 
if it's so easy why doesn't everyone do it
2019-11-14 16:00
5 awpers on 1 team sounds like a really good idea ur really smart
2019-11-14 16:30
Not everyone play for Astralis.
2019-11-14 16:49
S1mple, Zywoo, EliGE in his 2019 form and even a few others are all better than device as individuals. This is a cold hard fact. The main reason why device's stats are so consistently high is because of the way Astralis plays; it is extremely safe and efficient, which significantly boosts every player on the team. Look no further than gla1ve and Xyp9x: they were above average at best for their whole career, but became top 10 and top 15 respectively after the Danes perfected their CSGO system. So naturally, a very good (but not the best) player like device will also benefit greatly from it statistically. Put him in, say, North, and you'll see quite the slump in stats. Also if you want an extra hot take, I think Magisk is better than device. None of what I said is meant to demean devve, though.
2019-11-14 15:42
+1
2019-11-14 16:36
#87
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India NoAimNoGam3 
Yeah magisk and dupreeh are better individually than dev1ce. Although dupreeh is very inconsistent these days. Maybe it's his role, or not. But aim wise dev1ce is not nearly as good as some of the other players. That's a known fact. But he has one thing going for him. Consistency. Very consistent performance year after year with a slight slump here and there.
2019-11-14 17:11
>Put him in, say, North, and you'll see quite the slump in stats. bad assumptions like usual also another "magisk>device" person LUL
2019-11-15 06:12
U can see how kjaerbye turned out in north
2019-11-15 10:06
wut kjaerbye wasnt even a top 5 player on astralis braindead s1mple fanboy
2019-11-15 10:22
#143
23 | 
Austria cm_attack 
zonic>kjaerbye
2019-11-15 10:25
+1
2019-11-15 10:27
> major mvp > not even top 5 in the team pick one
2019-11-15 15:28
2017: Device top5 Dupreeh top10 Xyp Top13 Kjearbye Top15
2019-11-15 17:20
Kjaerbye now top 21 which means he is worse on north than astralis thanks for proving my point
2019-11-15 17:24
I agree with your point. Put anyone from a tier1 team to a tier3 team and they will suck.
2019-11-15 17:26
Ok mens)))
2019-11-15 17:30
The thing is people's beloved aim god players suck dick when they are outplayed but device delivers almost in every condition. If you watch Astralis' games Magisk and Dupreeh does more costly mistakes than. That's why Device have better stats then players with better skill, he is very good at decision making like gla1ve and xyp9x.
2019-11-15 17:17
never
2019-11-14 15:43
Dev1ce 14 MVP S2mple 9 MVP
2019-11-14 15:49
The difference is that Astralis has won a ridiculous amount of tournaments, while Na'Vi has been struggling to get out of groups. Many of the MVP's that s1mple has won are from when Na'Vi didn't even win the tournament.
2019-11-14 16:08
+1
2019-11-14 16:36
Device is almost on the same level statistically when Astralis is destroying teams, while s1mple has been in a team that has struggled and barely even reached playoffs in any big event the last 12 months. Imagine if s1mple played in a team on a similar level with Astralis, then it would be even more obvious that he's on another level individually compared to device.
2019-11-14 16:05
+1 smart
2019-11-14 16:46
#89
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India NoAimNoGam3 
Can't be confident it would work. Look at FaZe. They thought putting in 5 hotshots to create a superteam will work. But it didn't. Could be the same story with s1mple in a good team.
2019-11-14 17:13
I'm not saying that someone should put him together with four superstars, what I'm saying is that his rating most likely would be really padded if Na'Vi started to smash teams and often keeping the opponents under double digits, just like Astralis is doing now.
2019-11-14 18:36
nt if you try to put s1mple on a similar level with astralis it will always be a lower lvl
2019-11-15 06:14
What? You're not even making sense. You're comparing a player to a team.
2019-11-15 09:52
>Imagine if s1mple played in a team on a similar level with Astralis i meant team ofc
2019-11-15 10:19
Read the first word of the quote
2019-11-15 10:25
and that's where i get to my post on #127 it isn't possible, it will always be lower
2019-11-15 10:26
That's not a fact, that's your opinion, and I couldn't care less
2019-11-15 10:42
it's a fact and you cared enough to introduce the topic :^)
2019-11-15 10:51
You clearly don't know what a fact is in that case. But thanks for opinionating and taking interest in my comments I guess.
2019-11-15 11:19
#35
s1mple | 
India YETl 
Device > Simple only at camping LOL
2019-11-14 16:07
true story :D
2019-11-14 16:46
#91
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India NoAimNoGam3 
Lmao flair checks out. He keeps rotating around bombsites constantly on the CT side. What are you even talking about?
2019-11-14 17:14
counting simple as a top player lulw
2019-11-14 16:07
#39
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Indonesia lukerey 
n1tro lul
2019-11-14 16:10
Being fan of someone doesn't mean he's the best
2019-11-14 16:23
hltv.org/stats?startDate=2019-01-01&endD.. S1mple is top1 of this year as in 2018/.
2019-11-14 16:39
The matter is that cs go is not about kills. It's about playing as a unit and as of that I see gla1ve on top spot
2019-11-14 17:00
0/8 That's why STYKO was top1 all years for his "supportive role" and "sick teamplay".
2019-11-14 17:03
#92
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India NoAimNoGam3 
Yeah. We need 1v1 majors with just aim duels. Cuz csgo is a 1v1 blood fest.
2019-11-14 17:15
Stop playing the fool. You can judge a player by his individual results/performances in 5x5 matches on tournaments. Why you even talking about 1v1?
2019-11-14 17:18
20 more maps LOL. DeveKING > S1mple
2019-11-14 16:10
#41
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Indonesia lukerey 
Device wont do shit if he's on navi. If s1mple on astralis? Well i guess we'll never see the end of astralis era. So yes, s1mple > device. /Closed
2019-11-14 16:11
This Better team=better performance Always.
2019-11-14 16:38
#94
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India NoAimNoGam3 
2017 FaZe with guardian, Niko, olof, karrigan and rain XD. Best team ever.
2019-11-14 17:17
#42
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North America davidbowie22 
This year devve>simple But zeewoo top1 4 mvps absurdly high rating Is under like 20 years
2019-11-14 16:12
#96
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India NoAimNoGam3 
hltv.org/stats?startDate=2019-01-01&endD.. This is the accurate criteria
2019-11-14 17:19
Yeah. Big events. And both have 1.29 rating. And in all other aspects of 2019 S1mple is better. Thanks for giving me extra argument.
2019-11-14 17:20
#98
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India NoAimNoGam3 
Ok
2019-11-14 17:21
1.38 impact rating vs 1.34 impact rating Better opening kills ratings Also more mvp
2019-11-15 10:40
flag checks out LMAO
2019-11-14 16:36
ofc. Devve is better x2 than s1mpleBaiT
2019-11-14 16:38
hahaha idiot - ukrainian noob wtf are u talking for 1 player best or not ?! look at navi noobs team where is this noob Team !?!?!? top 10 - ?!?!?! 11 - place ? LUL ...just stfu and go to sleep
2019-11-14 16:48
0/8
2019-11-14 16:48
#66
s1mple | 
Germany meljan 
S1mple 50 maps less than zywoo in 2019 but still better K/D
2019-11-14 16:53
+1
2019-11-14 16:53
K/D doesnt depend on maps LMAO u mean K-D diff
2019-11-14 17:07
s1mple is better individually and there is no doubt about it, he is the most mechanically skilled player in the game, more so than zywoo but device is the most accomplished player in csgo besides maybe cold (2x t1). device plays for his team, they wouldn’t be able to play as well if they traded roles
2019-11-14 16:45
DevveKING is much more accomplished then Cold mens. What did Cold really achieve besides 2016-2017? DevveKING is good since like 2013 lmao.
2019-11-14 16:53
Good ? He was literally the definition of a choke until like 2016. And even when they won their first major ecov2ce still choked hard on the last map.
2019-11-14 16:57
Look at the top 20 hlts ratings every year, then come back. Thanks Kevin.
2019-11-14 16:58
How is that relevant, you dumb fanboi ? How does that change the fact that your fellow idol was and still is the definition of choke from 2013-2017, you dumb fanboi ? I don’t care about his average ratings, gtfo, you dumb fanboi.
2019-11-14 17:03
He totaly didnt want a major and other tournys in 2017. Wtf are you talking about omegalol
2019-11-14 17:31
Missed the whole point and changed the subject. Expected from ecov2ce fangirl.
2019-11-14 18:16
>Faze flair >lashes at Device for choking ?????
2019-11-15 06:11
>ecov2ce flair >defends his choke master >doesn’t make any sense ?????
2019-11-15 16:17
>Faze >Choke name a more iconic duo
2019-11-15 18:36
Easy Ecov2ce and choke. More iconic. And still a thing lmao
2019-11-15 20:39
Explain me what does 32-2 stand for? I dont andesrstand that mm .
2019-11-15 22:40
Anything creative you gonna come up, you narrow-minded irrelevant newfag ?
2019-11-15 23:53
Whats wrong with u little bitch?
2019-11-22 08:35
5x top 5 is definitely a great achievement but colds been consistent for years and was never known as a choker too. i like both and think both are csgo goat candidates. but cold had to carry tier 2 bots for like 1.5 years and that’s what’s holding him back
2019-11-14 16:59
But 2016-17 skillwise was much different. I really dont see the 2016-17 Cold perform like that with the utility usage of now.
2019-11-14 17:30
cold is much more of a ct player now from what we’ve seen of him on faze and he is really good at it with broky helping him out. he is still one of the best clutchers there is and one of the smartest too
2019-11-14 17:46
#64
s1mple | 
Germany meljan 
Skillwise honestly even electronic > device, we saw even NBK > device....but CS as a game was and always will be team game, wise man once said, cs is a competition of whos team will have less retards :D
2019-11-14 16:51
Basketball is a team game as well. I guess Curry > LeBron last year because Curry got carried by KD and having better team overall. Legit, makes sense.
2019-11-14 16:56
But when we are talking about individual results we cannot count team's ones. These are two different things. Otherwise TACO would be in top5 in 2015 (or 2016).
2019-11-14 17:14
#254
s1mple | 
Germany meljan 
Team results also pull back individual results, but one individual is nothing in CS:GO, we can only compare s1 and devv by their gamesense, positioning, clutch, mechanical aim, while ingame, mid rounds. Just put all s1mple's skills in device and tell me would Astralis be good team. And than put devices skills and playstyle to s1mple in Natus Vincere. You get what I mean.
2019-11-15 20:43
13-5 Sums up a lot about ecov2ce skills and the fact that he was always carried by 4 top20 teammates and snakerbye
2019-11-14 16:55
#75
tarik | 
Latvia zoom_god 
GOAT Device
2019-11-14 17:01
#79
OK | 
Switzerland _Boomer 
s1mple is better player device is greater player /closed
2019-11-14 17:05
major achievements zero lol. expected from s1mple.
2019-11-14 17:22
More curios to debate s1mple vs zywoo neither vs dev1
2019-11-14 17:26
#109
OK | 
Maldives Boomers 
ofcourse
2019-11-14 18:23
dev1ce career is better than s1mple all life haha
2019-11-14 20:08
haha 0/8
2019-11-15 17:09
0/8 S1MPLE 22 YEARS DEVICE 24 I THINK S1MPLE ON 24 WILL HAVE 2X MORE MVP AND TROPHIES THEN DEVICE
2019-11-14 20:52
#121
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Japan Jotaro 
S1mple overrated pugstar
2019-11-15 00:46
S1mple >>>>>>>>>> Device in terms of toxicity
2019-11-15 09:39
#139
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Belarus ripnickname 
Of course dev1ce is better
2019-11-15 09:59
devve is by far better.
2019-11-15 10:31
lol only in autumn 2019
2019-11-15 10:47
Also in most of 2019. 4 time major winner. Top 20 on HLTV for 5 years. More consistent than s1mple as well.
2019-11-15 11:05
S1mple is 22, device is 24, and with birthday device is a litte over 2 years older Device started winning first 2017, when he was 22. So yeah s1mple got a lot to win, majors and tournaments ofc, and I dont see him doing it already 2020 But keep that in mind. ---------------------
2019-11-15 11:38
In Sweden we have to high jumpers, Stefan Holm and Patrik SJöberg who both won olympics. Patrik SJöberg has jumped higher than Holm, but Holm has jumped over 2.4 meter more times than Sjöberg. Sjöberg then said, you remember the guy who jumped the highest or the guy that jumped a certain height many times? Nah I know its hurts but device need to get atleast 1 #1 HLTV top 20 or he will never be considered goat He is also soon 25 and this is his peek age so probably last chance
2019-11-15 11:39
It's not his peek. He's always consistent. Although s1mple got the #1 of HLTV last year i can't consider him goat. He hasn't won enough to be considered goat. I know Astralis is better than NaVi but s1mple isn't always performing while device rarely plays bad.
2019-11-15 12:08
It might be, no one knows, but CS player dont peek when they are 28-30 like normal athletes do. For example coldzera clearly peeked when he was 22-23 I think 2018-2019 is device peek as player, he has always been good but this is him at his best Humans are just better when we are younger, when it comes to spatial ability, reactions and this things, dexterity when it comes to CS I could find the age of all HLTV #1 if you want to prove my point
2019-11-15 12:09
HLTV #1 places: 2013: GTR : Age 23 2014 : GTR : Age 24 2015: Olof: Age: 23 2016: Cold: Age :22 2017: Cold: Age 23 2018: s1mple: Age: 21 As we see, cold, olofmeister and gtr are NOWHERE NEAR their old self, cause of age you see, 21-24 is typical PEEK age for CS 2019 may be device last chance, cause I think the scene will be better 2020 and challenge astralis more
2019-11-15 12:12
If Device would get #1 place 2020 He would be the oldest Top 1 in CS history Im not saying it is impossible cause Astralis amazing team that set him up But It kinda shows that players peek earlier than 25
2019-11-15 12:13
#195
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Luxembourg codygod 
Atm device 24 yo. 2014 gtr 24 too
2019-11-15 12:45
#155
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Denmark d1ckweed 
s0mple MVP award robber LUL
2019-11-15 10:50
du ved det bror
2019-11-15 11:05
device er ikke close til s1mple skill mand
2019-11-15 11:40
#175
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Denmark d1ckweed 
if only skill won you championships rofl
2019-11-15 12:01
I didn't say that. Teamplay mostly wins, its a teamgame. And NaVi has never looked like a team for me, maybe in 1-2 tournaments ESL cologne 2018
2019-11-15 12:02
#174
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Denmark d1ckweed 
ENGLISH ONLY mens)))))))
2019-11-15 12:00
Fakeflagger spotted.
2019-11-15 12:08
#216
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Denmark d1ckweed 
nt
2019-11-15 14:10
Lad os tage den på dansk så.
2019-11-15 15:20
#232
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Denmark d1ckweed 
You know a fakeflagger could just use google translate.
2019-11-15 16:39
I do know yes. But who the hell would waste their time doing such a thing.
2019-11-15 23:21
#273
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Denmark d1ckweed 
So called fakeflagger
2019-11-15 23:23
Okay så. Men vidste ikke folk gik så meget op i sådan noget pis hahaha.
2019-11-16 12:22
#289
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Denmark d1ckweed 
Haha
2019-11-16 17:19
hæhæ
2019-11-16 19:17
Klaphat lul
2019-11-15 11:40
Svenske djævel
2019-11-15 12:09
Jeg er Skånsk mand
2019-11-15 12:12
Giv os Skåne tilbage djævler.
2019-11-15 12:53
#169
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Europe twitchy_ 
Can you click on complete statistics? Your welcome. By the way I would always take Device for my team, he's much more paused and don't think he's rambo, which is better for most of the rounds.
2019-11-15 11:44
#172
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Georgia Broozman 
both trash
2019-11-15 11:49
s1mple top1 2018 is a fluke he was never that good before 2018 and will never be again change my mind
2019-11-15 12:02
#192
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Luxembourg codygod 
he was better in 16 (#4) than in 17 (#8). So your math tricks not work
2019-11-15 12:42
I did not offer a proof including a "math trick". I stated the fact that he was never as good as he was in 2018 and "guessed" that he won't reach to that level again. But i see your point that he can bounce back like he did in 2018 after 2017. I just dont think so.
2019-11-15 12:50
#201
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Luxembourg codygod 
He is good. He won 1v1 cup. Reshuffle in team. Big problems. IGL - young boom4ch. Coach - Mr. 0;01 sec to run. Sniper - Old Kovach. He will come back maybe in new team or NaVi will back to top3 like a team
2019-11-15 12:53
Astralis is better than Navi but youtube.com/watch?v=_fDSNJbrr50&t=284s.... nope LOL
2019-11-15 12:14
Oh really, mr obvious?
2019-11-15 12:14
s1mple 13 : 5 device lol
2019-11-15 12:39
#191
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Luxembourg codygod 
Device have better team but he wasnt TOP 1
2019-11-15 12:41
4 majors > 0 majors lul not even debatable mens
2019-11-15 12:43
#198
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Luxembourg codygod 
> Messi 0 FIFA WORLD CUP > Griezmann 1 FIFA WORLD CUP Griezmann > Messi Right? OR Counter Strike is a TEAMPLAY
2019-11-15 12:49
who are these guys?
2019-11-15 12:50
#203
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Luxembourg codygod 
1,285h in CS:GO. Who are you? :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2019-11-15 12:54
owner of 6 accs men)))
2019-11-15 12:57
#217
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Spain elskio 
Fifa WC once per 4 years Csgo major twice per year even CL is once per year, imagine saying someone without CL is a goat LOL
2019-11-15 14:13
#194
kennyS | 
India Ryuota 
the point that you are making this post shows you aren't sure of yourself tbh... just leave it to hltv if you really believe it bro
2019-11-15 12:44
#205
f0rest | 
Romania hope12 
device he is more of a specialist and has way better team s1mple better all around player
2019-11-15 12:55
#213
gla1ve | 
Denmark Mqkkel 
And Magisk > Device
2019-11-15 13:19
guys im not rasist, but i dont like germans
2019-11-15 16:22
#288
gla1ve | 
Denmark Mqkkel 
The Germans are the racists, they no like jews my swedish brother
2019-11-16 12:38
yes 55 50 to device
2019-11-15 17:11
device is the goat no debate, sit down s0mple fangays LELELELEL
2019-11-15 17:32
dev2ce so bad
2019-11-15 17:38
#255
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Denmark Kon10R 
Not sure how or why anyone would try to compare these two superheroes. S1mple is of course dangerous to anyone anywhere on any map if you give him a clarinet or a wet cloth. On an individual level he is just wooonderful to watch. Dev1ce has a ROLE in a TEAM! It is utterly different. Yes, pretty dangerous too with any weapon, but he is PART of something bigger than just "a fast mouse creating havoc". Astralis' play is build entirely different than most teams. Liquid is approximately as coordinated, and 100 Thieves and earlier on Ence may strive for the same to some degree, but: I don't see the point of compare S1mple and Dev1ce. Different styles, different roles, different ... everything. It's like the CR7/Messi thing. Wonderful players, but comparison is fruitless.
2019-11-15 20:57
#258
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Poland s0ze 
Plus one. 1.Zyw 2.Dev 3.eliGe 4.S0mple 5 Brehze
2019-11-15 21:33
Since month maybe yes but overall this year not unfortunately dev gonna be top 3 this year.
2019-11-15 23:28
08:30Buckets vs Mako
Buckets
1.66
Mako
2.17
18:00Sons Of Lennart vs fightclub
Sons Of Lennart
1.83
fightclub
1.94
19:00CLG Red vs ANEW
CLG Red
1.21
ANEW
4.24
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