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United Kingdom xTheDeadPixel 
facebook.com/404716342902872/posts/33448.. Capitalism and the profit-motive are not responsible for our greatest technological innovations of the past 50 years.
2019-11-15 20:20
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Wrong!
2019-11-15 20:20
#90
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Germany leftist 
he's right tho socialism makes, capitalism takes
2019-11-16 13:25
hahaha
2019-11-16 13:54
lmfao it's the other way around
2019-11-16 17:58
Considering the worker does the making, tell me how...
2019-11-17 04:15
xTheDeadBrainCell
2019-11-17 04:19
nice one
2019-11-17 04:42
Thx men))
2019-11-17 13:59
Working in a socialist country LMFAO
2019-11-17 05:24
Competition leads to more innovations. This is a fact
2019-11-17 12:21
xD
2019-11-17 17:39
#2
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Poland henlo 
no i am :)
2019-11-15 20:20
Yeah.
2019-11-15 20:22
#85
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Israel sbd123 
yeah.
2019-11-16 12:29
Wrong! Everything new in this world is created for PROFIT AND POWER! You can never prove me wrong!
2019-11-15 20:25
Im glad im conservative
2019-11-16 00:03
#81
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France OtelloO 
Do you really think that tarte tatin (check on google) has been created for profit and power?
2019-11-16 12:25
yes, same as the drinking bird
2019-11-17 06:41
#104
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Canada ProvexPyker 
Wikipedia, many non for profit orgs
2019-11-16 16:10
Mozilla as well All Kodi Apps Linux (android exist cuz of Linux and is official for free as well) Even fucking Java is non profit
2019-11-17 04:29
power probabaly but not for profit. Polio vaccination was for free as an example. Power to rescue life but give a shit about profit and saved millions of life. Mr Low IQ.
2019-11-17 04:27
Did care, did ask, plus i love you
2019-11-15 20:25
gay
2019-11-15 22:00
#6
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Poland Hanse 
It's most humane way we can achieve progress so idc
2019-11-15 20:27
#105
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Canada ProvexPyker 
*humane while other 99% suffer from the exploitative top 1% #VoteForBernie 😎😎😎👍
2019-11-16 16:11
#110
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Poland Hanse 
*humane for everyone who wants to work more than 4 hours a week and isn't lazy cuck 👌😎👍
2019-11-16 16:18
GL living in a monopoly world when it's going to get ran by a 100 people :)
2019-11-17 05:26
#164
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Australia zanics 
brainwashed bootlicker cucklord
2019-11-17 07:25
#7
Stewie2K | 
United States bxteme 
Another 0/8 from xthedeadpixel
2019-11-15 20:28
+1 but expected
2019-11-15 23:44
#8
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
Heres that 0/8 you clearly want so badly
2019-11-15 20:29
#9
Lack1 | 
United States Trive 
Capitalism is the cause of all modern problems Billionaires are sociopaths Kill the rich
2019-11-15 20:30
Billionaires are sociopaths But you sound like a psychopath
2019-11-15 20:32
+1
2019-11-16 12:23
yeet the rich
2019-11-15 20:32
#74
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United Kingdom xTheDeadPixel 
How have I not heard that yet? I think I might need to get a friend to draw something up for me ;)
2019-11-16 10:50
Hey bro! I'm still waiting on that lvl 100+ steam ban. When is it coming?
2019-11-16 12:21
#91
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United Kingdom xTheDeadPixel 
2019-11-16 13:25
I AGREE ... NOBODY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE MORE THAN 100 M $ AND THE BIG COMPANYS SHOULD PAY 90 % TAXES ... BECAUSE THEY USE THE COUTRY RESOURCES TO WORK AND THEY RESOURCES ARE FOR ALL PPL FROM THAT COUTRYS.
2019-11-15 22:21
#66
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Sweden Laou 
whats the point of making a succefull company then? what makes me wana inovate/invest in somthing if i know i will only get high taxes. like its more profit to work at mc in that case in the long run.
2019-11-16 00:49
+999999999999999999999999999999999
2019-11-16 01:15
#73
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United Kingdom xTheDeadPixel 
While I don't agree with his pricepoint, I do feel no-one or no company should accrue more than $1B. The point is that innovation and investment shouldn't be reliant on potential profit. We should create things because we want the world to have them. We should invest because we want those things to be well produced.
2019-11-16 10:48
Exactly ... 1 B should be the limit ... Why 1% to own 99% ??? the resources are for everybody ....
2019-11-16 12:01
nt commie
2019-11-16 12:24
You sure love making rules about how much money people, who actually work and create things, are allowed to make and have, after they themselves made it. But you, wanting to take their money by force and spend it on whatever makes sense to YOU, is not greedy or stupid at all. 30000 IQ
2019-11-17 11:45
#176
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Belgium Miiyata 
Mate, cmon. You invent something and thousands of ppl work hard to make sure it gets produced and sold. You earn shitton of money sure, that's your right since you created it. But why do you have to pay less taxes,relatively, than the ppl that work under you? And then i don't need to bring up fraudings to pay even less taxes, while the comman man if he pays a bill few days too late he gets additional fees. System is bullshit say whatever you want.
2019-11-17 15:29
Even if you pay a flat tax, i.e everyone pays 15%, your 15% of your 1 million is more than 15% of someone elses 100k. I'm not saying people shouldn't chime in and help support their country. But you should NEVER give the government a lot of power, hence money, and you should never FORCE people to give their money to whatever you deem good because you are jealous of what they have, and feel morally superior because you are doing a "good thing" or they are "greedy". In an ideal world people would support the things they believe in, that includes education, infrastructure, healthcare and thigns of that nature. HOWEVER, if you never went to school and for whatever wont have kids, it is morally wrong to force you to pay for it. The assumption that a powerful government needs to force people to do good deeds, removes the ability of people to do actually good things and it screws up the most basic things in economics. Currently in Denmark, there is a very high demand for teachers, however, since the government is responsible for funding education, schools are under staffed and teachers are over worked, despite us paying 50%+ taxes. Just let that sink in. In any normal market, if we needed more teachers and wanted our kids to get a proper education, which I assume 99% of parents would, they would obviously give money to that cause. In todays day and age we cant even choose were some of the tax money goes, its all decided by people, who face no consequences from the actions and decisions they make.
2019-11-17 17:30
#181
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Belgium Miiyata 
I am not talking where taxes go or about government. I am talking about 15% for everyone means they dont feel shit. Understood? Things get expensive for us, not for them. They are still rich. In the end you need to count your money while a bilionaire doesnt even know how much a pack of bread costs anymore. Lets not mention how super rich companies ultimately pay less taxes than they should due to loopholes and government favoring policies.
2019-11-17 17:37
I understand what you mean, but most of those issues are a result of the government creating these weird policies, making it annoying and super expensive for companies to hire, hence why the salary is often bad and never changing. If you make it cheap for companies to hire, they are more likely too aaaand more likely to pay well, as long as you can do a decent job. If someone is a greedy bastard and decides to keep their money for themselves, they are free to do so. You dont have to like it, but you have no right to forcefully take their money from them to make yourself feel better. Funny enough everything good in pretty much every modern country, is a result of big companies, who made millions of dollars and then invested the money back into the country, for example by continuing to innovate and making new companies, creating more jobs. If you tak a certain pert of the popullation heavily, they will just stop doing stuff and or/leave the country, because no one wants to have their basic rights taken away by other people, simply because they worked hard and made something extra of themselves, often at the expense of other parts of their lives.
2019-11-17 17:42
#187
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Belgium Miiyata 
You have a good point, in fact you are right. But it's just fkd up honestly. There's so much scummy practices going on and also not every company reinvest back to the country they're based in etc etc. e.g. there are some companies who do get advantages so they have less costs etc yet the salaries are still same for their workers.
2019-11-17 18:22
What the point ? ... U mean having 100M $ its nothing ? ... u are 10000 rich than everybody allready .... u dont born owning shit so u cant take all the coutry resources just because u have a company....
2019-11-16 12:00
#92
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Finland HATER_OF_ENCE 
nice fakeflag
2019-11-16 13:28
What company has 100M $?
2019-11-16 16:18
Du er jo helt væk din klaphat, få dig dog et arbejde eller tag en uddannelse og stop med at nasse på andre din grådige kommunist.
2019-11-17 17:44
#83
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France OtelloO 
If you manage to earn $100 000 000 at MC please send me free nuggets
2019-11-16 12:27
Dumb argument as most innovators are not billionaires because they are not businessmen, i.e look at nobel prize winners. Innovators are exploited for the most part.
2019-11-16 15:50
#185
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United Kingdom snekky 
you can still work hard, be successful, make money, but you can't get enough wealth to be able to bend world politics to follow your personal interests at the expense of the many. that won't stop people from starting businesses, it will just limit the influence of the elite to around the level of a small country,
2019-11-17 17:47
Nt bernie sanders
2019-11-15 23:17
#49
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China SwooksarV2 
Wtf. You can't blame billionaires for sub-par humans failing in life.
2019-11-15 23:19
Your premise is that there is absolutely no possibility whatsoever that even a human that isnt sub-par could be failing in life because the system is designed to fuck them over. And that is completely nonsensical to anyone with a vaguely realistic worldview.
2019-11-16 12:26
#94
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China SwooksarV2 
Natural selection bud.
2019-11-16 15:12
so everyone whos not a billionaire is a failure or what type of argument is this?
2019-11-16 15:51
#102
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China SwooksarV2 
No. People who are poor are failures. If you're over 35 and lower than mid-middle class, you're doing something wrong
2019-11-16 15:56
what do you define as poor?
2019-11-16 16:17
#112
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China SwooksarV2 
Family under 65k usd income Cause that's Legit the pay of having two parents working at McDonald's full time. You aren't gonna be able to support a family with that, donuts better not to, and make your children suffer cause of your inability. I consider 70k - 300k middle class
2019-11-16 16:27
So two people working full time is failure that should cease to exist? Who would do these jobs then? Maybe these jobs should just pay better? Maybe life shouldnt be all about jobs to begin with.
2019-11-16 16:42
#115
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China SwooksarV2 
They aren't being paid well because their jobs aren't important or high skilled. There is nothing special about them.
2019-11-16 16:45
so everyone who isnt special is dead weight?
2019-11-16 17:34
#119
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China SwooksarV2 
Yes exactly
2019-11-16 17:41
How are you special?
2019-11-16 17:47
#122
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China SwooksarV2 
My family runs one of the largest trading companies in North America.
2019-11-16 17:56
I didnt ask what your family does/owns. Are you not an individual?
2019-11-16 18:14
he's obviously a privileged daddy's boy, that's why he hates the poor
2019-11-16 19:02
#128
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China SwooksarV2 
Nt. I got into Waterloo universities computercience program with a scholarship. Smh my head
2019-11-17 00:43
Must have been hard probably coming from a top private school.
2019-11-17 15:20
#130
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China SwooksarV2 
Also, nice poor man's mentality. Poor fucker.
2019-11-17 00:44
Not poor, I just don’t hate poor people unlike you, I think you have some issues mate.
2019-11-17 15:22
#178
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China SwooksarV2 
Nt dickstacy
2019-11-17 16:13
Also looking forward to eating your family
2019-11-16 18:24
#129
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China SwooksarV2 
???? Reply needs actual content.
2019-11-17 00:43
Eat the rich
2019-11-17 03:39
#155
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China SwooksarV2 
I'm getting joker or dark knight vibes
2019-11-17 05:06
Ok, so what are the traits that get selected out in your "natural selection" that those puny poor people have that rich people dont have?
2019-11-16 16:04
#106
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China SwooksarV2 
They're poor for a reason. They don't have any skills and they don't bring any benefit to us as human races other than being a waste of resources and space. they are just expendable's who can be replaced.
2019-11-16 16:12
I couldnt have asked for a better answer in terms of proving my point. You have never had any contact with poor or homeless people have you? Dont even answer. The answer is blatantly obvious.
2019-11-16 16:18
#113
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China SwooksarV2 
No shit I've come in contact with poor people, which is why I look down on them.
2019-11-16 16:28
#89
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Germany leftist 
+9999999999999999
2019-11-16 13:24
capitalism develops abstract, complex scientific discoveries from universities to be useful for the masses and mass-producible
2019-11-15 20:31
No it doesnt, scientists do. Ownership ofthe means of production and the final products is the isdue here, not production itself. Dont troll.
2019-11-15 23:49
+1
2019-11-16 15:51
All this video shows is a guy claiming that none of them were invented due to capitalism without providing any proof and saying "if we had communism MAYBE the same innovations would be made" Did I miss anything?
2019-11-15 20:33
#16
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United Kingdom xTheDeadPixel 
It's just a clip from a podcast. He explains in more detail exactly how they were funded in the full video. (Roughly around 35-36 minutes) youtu.be/PugN3t2QvWs
2019-11-15 21:12
+1 thought he was baiting but turns out he is an idiot and believes everything someone says on a shitty podcast. To give one example of how he is wrong, the lithium-ion battery which this moron uses as an example was invented and developed by an English man in the UK. The UK is a capitalist country. The battery was further developed in the US. I'd like to see where this guy is getting his information because he is wrong. Also the only example he gave of a non-capitalist country that developed technologies was Nazi Germany. A 'socialist' party who didn't even support Marxism. Their economic system was purely driven by war. War is the only reason why they poured so much into developing the jet engine, they had no care for socialism and it wasn't socialism that pushed them towards developing war machines. Joke of a thread, too many already today. Kid clearly has no ideas of his own, he just listens to someone online and decides he is right and capitalism is bad because he for some reason has a grudge against capitalism.
2019-11-15 21:25
#18
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United Kingdom xTheDeadPixel 
You do realise you completely ignored what he said, right? Taxpayer money is used for research and development. You call me dumb yet you made this whole essay because you can't use your ears...
2019-11-15 21:39
I listened to the clip of the podcast that you posted. To make the claim that capitalism is not responsible for any great innovations in the last year is completely wrong. You are claiming that taxpayer money is used for r&d, but it isn't just the government that do r&d for new innovations. With capitalism anyone can do it and develop products and services to better peoples lives. I cannot trust him and I don't see how you can suck up everything he says when the examples he used for technologies developed by non-capitalist countries were developed in capitalist countries. It wasn't some socialist government who invented the lithium-ion battery, it was a few young chemists from the UK (a capitalist country, the one you live in). If this guy made some genuine, realistic claims with real evidence to back them up I would give my time to listen to the entire podcast but he doesn't do that. I'm not attacking your views but I cant understand how you can believe this guy so easily.
2019-11-15 21:57
wtf are you talking about? it's simply a fact that the government funded that research, not private companies. this isn't even a controversial topic, most economists know and agree that there isn't really a market for fundamental research and hence most innovation originated from government funded projects (very often the military). Companies have no incentives to spend millions to let scientists research random topic with no clear outcome or goal. But that's basically what a lot of scientists are universities do. Companies mainly fund applied research.
2019-11-15 22:09
You're right, I didn't quite think this point through. Same to you Pixel, won on this point.
2019-11-16 00:26
I just witnessed an honest concession on hltv. I can die in peace now.
2019-11-16 12:27
#26
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United Kingdom xTheDeadPixel 
You're like right on the edge of understanding dude... British guy, working for a US corporation, receiving government funding, to develop a technology that was not commercially available for another 20 years. jes.ecsdl.org/content/164/1/A5019.full fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R44307.pdf en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_subsidy#All.. Also, he did not in any way suggest the countries they were developed in were not capitalist states....
2019-11-15 22:14
#19
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United Kingdom xTheDeadPixel 
Oh and fyi, this "shitty podcast" hosted by "someone online" is currently interviewing the Shadow Chancellor of the Labour party, so..... youtube.com/watch?v=RjxSdHtbmUY
2019-11-15 21:55
Maybe I was to aggressive in describing the podcast and the people who run it, I have commented on too many capitalism bad communism good posts already today so I'm a bit pissed off. My main point is that Aaron Bastani is making wild and factually incorrect claims and not backing them up with proper evidence. I just can't spend time listening to someone when I don't think that they are telling the whole truth.
2019-11-15 22:17
#32
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United Kingdom xTheDeadPixel 
He's not making wild and infactual claims, you're choosing to ignore that government funding was used to develop these technologies. He's not saying they were developed in non-capitalist countries, you're choosing to conflate the processes of systems with the actual system itself. He's not saying that Nazi R&D had nothing to do with their war efforts, you're choosing to make that case. I understand that after some time of arguing with bad faith people, you get into this mental state that skews how you talk to others, or how you perceive others words. But you've gotta realise you're completely misunderstanding what he's saying, right?
2019-11-15 22:28
I'm sure some of them were funded by the government, but they were capitalist governments. I just don't understand how you can claim that capitalism hasn't been responsible for any great innovations. Capitalism has given many people freedom to start their own capital ventures (without government funding) and develop a product that improves lives. People are motivated by profit, everyone wants to make money. It is capitalism that facilitates this. Just so you know I'm not sucking capitalism's dick, it has it's flaws, like every economic system. I am tired, maybe I missed some of the points he is making but you said "Capitalism and the profit-motive are not responsible for our greatest technological innovations of the past 50 years." and I can't agree with that.
2019-11-15 22:37
#37
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United Kingdom xTheDeadPixel 
You are tired. I'm not making that claim in any way, nor is he. You're thinking of this in purely black-and-white terms. Either you're Capitalist, or Socialist, or Communist. But that's not reality. Yes, the UK and US are Capitalist countries. We run on a system of capital and private ownership. Still doesn't take away from the fact there are Socialist processes and programs in place within that Capitalist system. Germany is defined as a Capitalist system. Yet roughly 80% of their processes are Socialist.
2019-11-15 22:43
The one thing you say after posting the link to the clip is "Capitalism and the profit-motive are not responsible for our greatest technological innovations of the past 50 years.". And yet you say that you aren't making that claim?????? It's what you opened with???? Read what you said. You're denying the one thing you did say! It is THAT claim which he DID make and which you OPENED this forum with that I disagree with. As for the make-up of 'capitalist systems' you are correct, they have socialist processes and programs, while still being called capitalist states. I'm not disputing this. The reason I commented on this forum the beginning was because I disagree with the claim he made and the claim you choose to open the forum with.
2019-11-15 23:15
#52
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United Kingdom xTheDeadPixel 
'Great-EST' What you're saying is that I said the entire capitalist system is not responsible for any great innovations in the past 50 years. What you're arguing is that I'm ommitting any and all other innovations created by the free market, which I'm not. Purely talking about what he mentioned. The quote I opened with was just paraphrasing what Aaron said.
2019-11-15 23:28
Paraphrasing is supposed to make things clearer, but I don't believe you said it any better then he did. Again the point I have disagreed with from the start is that "Capitalism and the profit-motive are not responsible for our greatEST technological innovations of the past 50 years." I shouldn't need to repeat that again. I disagree with the exact statement you made which included "greatest".
2019-11-16 00:22
#65
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United Kingdom xTheDeadPixel 
Okay, my bad for using a statement that can be easily misconstrued. I was just combining what he listed off at the beginning and what he said at the end.
2019-11-16 00:43
No problem, I enjoyed this debate. I learnt a few new things that can help me for future arguments. Not sure who won but we'll agree to disagree. Goodnight, we'll meet again my friend.
2019-11-16 00:54
#14
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Sweden Trkmag 
Good video
2019-11-15 20:34
#15
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Europe loonek4 
yes comrade
2019-11-15 20:34
0/8 Because who would want to work hard, study and do these all uncomfortable things knowing that he would not rise to the top in terms of money and/or status if he would be in the same category as someone who just spends their days on the beaches or watching Netflix or whatever?
2019-11-15 22:00
Except a reward for your knowledge or for your work is not capitalism. At all. Capitalism is about rewarding how many you own. Not at all how many you know or work. In a capitalistic world such as ours, Paris Hilton, the hair of a wealth made by her ancestors can stand on a beach watching Netflix all day and yet earning more money than you ever will without having to spend a single day at work: ever.
2019-11-15 22:18
#31
f0rest | 
France Kiirua2 
+111111 In our wonderful capitalist world you don't make big money with your work but by using the capital of your ancestors! Work doesnt make you rich anymore! Having big investments makes you rich!
2019-11-15 22:23
So gross to see French being 100% pure french, you're the crib of leftism and equalitarianism, worst influence in history of humanity. Definitely the worst people in the world.
2019-11-15 22:41
Unbanned already? too bad you can't argue with logic and must reply about nationality, alleged politic stance or whatever. Damned I was expected more for your return.
2019-11-15 22:56
Well, everytime i argued with logic against you you'd just quit replying, but i wasnt replying to you on this one, seems like you've been missing me. You havent won a single argument against me yet.
2019-11-15 22:57
I will ask for a link about you using logic. You are not called the crazy user without reason. Assuming your claim, winning an argument against my stance "capitalism is about the capital being rewarded" should be easy for you to do so. We are waiting.
2019-11-15 23:00
Well, almost every user that calls me crazy is just an authoritarian leftist so i wouldn't weight that too much in. You however, are a known coward authoritarian anti human beta cuck.
2019-11-15 23:01
I'm not sure I can call that a win against a stance saying "capitalism is about the capital being rewarded". But I cant say I'm surprised. So much for your previous claims.
2019-11-15 23:07
I've never said that, because the way i explain capitalism has always been the same. Capitalism isn't a system in and of itself, Capitalism is just a byproduct that comes to fruition when everyone has freedom, the principle of voluntary exchange and mutual consent. You see, when people are let to do what they want, they'll organize to more efficiently chase their own interest, there, markets are created and the supply and demand chain balance eachother, none of this is a topdown imposed system, is just the natural, organic development of human interaction when there isn't a monopoly on force there to interfere.
2019-11-15 23:13
so you are saying capitalism is just a natural result of liberalism. Is capitalism, the result of liberalism then, a system where lazy asses such as me get better income than 100 hard workers good?
2019-11-15 23:19
"so you are saying capitalism is just a natural result of liberalism." That is exactly what it is. "lazy asses such as me get better income than 100 hard workers good?" Now you are starting to move into VERY subjective waters. If you give me your exact definition of lazy ass and your exact definition of hardworking i will give you a certain answer. The common definitions of hardworking and lazy would make the answer you seeking a very loud "it depends"
2019-11-16 00:03
Me : I don't work at all. Unless you consider my few hours a week reading newspaper as a work. Hardworking people : people going to work every day, doing the best they can, no matter if they work under snow, rain, wind, burning sun, totalitarian chief or whatever you can imagine being the day to day reality for an average working people. And when I say 1 hundred I'm being approximative since last year I topped 800k when the average wage is around 40K. You get the idea, even if in my case I earn only 20 time more than a working people without any work done; this disparity is only "so little" because of the limited amount of asset I own. So no offense, but if, as you claim, capitalism is the legitimate child of liberalism (which is not, as capitalism existed before but whatever), then liberalism is at least as unfair as capitalism is.
2019-11-16 00:34
You haven't really given me a concrete definition. You say you are lazy because you dont get up to go somewhere at the same time almost everyday, well 2 things: Do you employ people? does whatever business you own go reasonably OK? Also have you ever wondered how did you get to where you're at? even if you inherited your parents' business, if you still haven't crashed it this means you've been running it well enough to keep the people that depend on you well off, and the people that consume whatever you offer satisfied. Truth to be told whatever people you employ and/or whatever people consume your offered good or service, are MUCH better off than if you weren't there. I've always worked shitty jobs, and in only 1 of those jobs i've seen my boss more relaxed than me, in all of them they were ALL always much more stressed than me, you could just smell it and bite it in the air, and the one job in which he wasn't was the least serious job in the world (a toy and electronics store in Quilmes, South Zone of Bs. As. Province). Now you talk about Pre-Liberalism capitalism, sorry pimpim, that wasn't capitalism. All trades and markets in all of societies before the U.S American revolution -except for early Roman Republic- , have always been regulated and controlled, HEAVILY SO in fact for 99% of history. The more liberty, the more genuine the market and endproduct "capitalism" will be, that's why anyone who's remotely formed and has some common sense will tell you that right now what we have is either Crony Capitalism or no capitalism at all. By your metric, even Communist USSR was capitalist. You need to understand that you have no right nor power NOR RIGHT TO POWER to determine WHATS FAIR FOR ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL, you can only determine what's fair or ideal to you, then work your way to it, if you want to change someone else's life for better or for worse it must always be 100% with their consent 1 by 1 , no exceptions. This is the principle of non agression and equality before the law...you wouldn't get it.
2019-11-16 00:54
Finally some people who understand this shit
2019-11-16 15:54
#186
chrisJ | 
United Kingdom snekky 
+1
2019-11-17 17:49
#33
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United Kingdom xTheDeadPixel 
60% of US wealth is inherited.
2019-11-15 22:34
100% of Eu cares about our problems
2019-11-16 00:13
But you're agreeing its a problem so why argue against him..
2019-11-16 15:54
It’s not a problem but ok
2019-11-16 17:53
100% of Eu cares about OUR PROBLEMS
2019-11-16 18:51
Generalization
2019-11-17 06:40
No im just quoting you retard, you said it was a problem not me
2019-11-17 11:37
No I’m meaning it as a generalization
2019-11-17 11:50
Ok stewie2k fan checks out imma stop replying
2019-11-17 12:06
If you don’t get it it’s fine idc
2019-11-18 08:17
Never been mate. According to most post above, people don't understand what capitalism his. They think it is about a fair reward of your job. Yet it is not. It is a reward of your wealth. Go figure.
2019-11-15 22:12
Okay Corbyn dicksucker
2019-11-15 22:17
#29
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France Kiirua2 
+1
2019-11-15 22:17
Do you actually believe in this nonsense?
2019-11-15 22:40
yes he does, he has hltv confirmed 80iq and he doesnt even know what capitalism or socialism means
2019-11-15 23:47
#41
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Other wholelottared 
ok
2019-11-15 22:58
pepega
2019-11-15 23:17
#48
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Ukraine s1v9mple 
Nice source
2019-11-15 23:19
#51
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China SwooksarV2 
Because people want money and power, they create advancements that will give them such power and money. Without capitalism, youll have less motivation for advancements. Look at Mao's china and the USSR. Look at what communism caused.
2019-11-15 23:20
oh so that's why many of todays inventions came from public funded institues such as universities, right?
2019-11-16 01:23
#72
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China SwooksarV2 
Haha...haha .. universities public funded... Ahahahahahahaahahahaha
2019-11-16 01:33
maybe not in your shit country
2019-11-16 15:19
#96
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China SwooksarV2 
AHAHAHAHAHAH nt
2019-11-16 15:45
DeadPixel aka guy spamming trumps twitter for attention, back on HLTV with some anti capitalism, anti freedom, anti logic, pro governent, pro communism, pro retardation threads, what more could u ask for on a friday B-)
2019-11-15 23:54
+1
2019-11-16 12:38
#57
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Brazil fuNNa 
no evidence at all this must be bait for sure 0/8
2019-11-16 00:00
Capitalism made this happen: youtu.be/rY0WxgSXdEE Therefore I love capitalism
2019-11-16 00:03
Wait whut
2019-11-16 12:30
It’s facts
2019-11-17 04:21
#69
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Poland kRAMERO 
good comuists are dead comunists
2019-11-16 01:13
Fuck capitalism and fuck communism,two sides of the same coin!
2019-11-16 11:57
#88
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Spain H0TDOGG 
Flag dosen't check
2019-11-16 13:22
#111
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Canada ProvexPyker 
Top 1% are not uuman #VoteForBernie 😎😎😎👍
2019-11-16 16:21
nt Kieran Bowley
2019-11-16 16:45
Oh no my name, such burn...
2019-11-17 05:19
Oh shit that was actually you?
2019-11-17 16:30
I think we should all sign a petition to remove xTheDeadBrainCell from hltv
2019-11-16 16:49
#132
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United States gtmaniacmda 
I decided to look at the FIRST example that he listed... -Jet Engine: Assuming he means the ones invented in the 1900s, the first jet engine was designed by Frank Whittle who worked for the RAF. The government did NOT financially support him, so he created Power Jets Ltd., which was funded by British Thomson-Houston, a private company. Only after his prototypes were successful did they nationalize his company. The first jet engine that was sucessfully built, however, was done so by Hans von Ohain in Germany. He also did not get funding by the German government until AFTER he demonstrated successful prototypes, which included FIVE YEARS OF R&D with NO PUBLIC FUNDING. So, I really don't need to go any further for me to tell that is guy is just going to be telling half truths the whole time. "The jet engine was not developed by capitalism!" If you can't call two men patenting their inventions and selling their technology to the government for monetary gain, well, I don't know what you CAN call capitalism...
2019-11-17 04:15
I assume with RAF u mean Rote Armee Fraktion
2019-11-17 04:25
#141
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United States gtmaniacmda 
Royal Air Force. He worked for them at the time, but his designs were rejected.
2019-11-17 04:28
Your example has one simple lack. When he waited for Government support he didn't make it for profit. Today you invent something and sell it. You don't wait for the Government even if the Government is your only customer.
2019-11-17 04:51
#148
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United States gtmaniacmda 
uhhh, what did he make for then? shits and giggles?
2019-11-17 04:56
he made it to beg for money +1900 isn't 50 years ago... NA education
2019-11-17 04:58
#150
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United States gtmaniacmda 
so... he made it to make money.
2019-11-17 04:58
If he needs 5 years to get money for it nope. It is a hobby and again 1900 isn't 50 years ago
2019-11-17 04:59
#152
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United States gtmaniacmda 
inventors having day jobs to support their own development of projects is not a rare occurrence, just because it wasn't making money immediately does not mean he didn't wish for it to make money sometime in the future hell, it even says he built the first prototype because someone paid him to do it!
2019-11-17 05:01
We can agree to disasgree on the semantics of whether it is socialism or capitalism, but it was developed under British Thomson-Houston, a subsidiary of General Electric, a publicly-owned company.
2019-11-17 05:13
I decided to look at this thread but then I saw the name xThedeadpixel so I think there is really no need to say anything because everyone on this site knows you are a dumb-ass.
2019-11-17 04:23
the first computer was made cuz of fun. Microwave was an accident. WWW was made by CERN a scient institution same for mp3 made by a German university. So yes the biggest invention of the last 50-70 years are made by the government (cuz of war and military as example GPS) or by public institutions or by hobby inventors
2019-11-17 04:25
Wrong the government contracts firm who share their findings with the government the bureaucrats and power mongers in the government have nothing to do indirectly or directly in the development or research of technology described in this dogshit video
2019-11-17 04:35
You actually say I am right. Even if the government pays institutions or firms it is still a public invention, not a capitalism invention my friend. Capitalism invention means a company invented it with their own money and their own goal to make profit. Do you see the money for Cern cuz of WWW?? Do you see the money for the microwave by the inventors? Even a fucking Kebab is a free to use product nowadays.
2019-11-17 04:47
you keep telling yourself that my friend.
2019-11-17 05:05
also very empirical findings with vague wording and endless rhetoric you call this accuracy? You think this is even a real discussion or just some pundit trying to waste your time at his benefit? People like you are delusional, youre watching this on facebook right now btw.
2019-11-17 04:26
do you your homework after you watch it then you know if it is true or don't
2019-11-17 04:48
It is xthedeadpixel his brain probably fits into my sneakers considering its size.
2019-11-17 05:05
#159
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Iceland CHAPOLE! 
More socialised capitalism like Denmark and Sweden is really good and probably the best realistic system. USA Capitalism is cancer
2019-11-17 05:26
#166
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Netherlands Im_gaaayyy 
USA =/= capitalism It's the FED handing out cheap money and overregulation. Singapore = capitalism New Zealand = capitalism Switzerland = capitalism Hong Kong = capitalism
2019-11-17 11:41
capitalism kills. we need social democracy
2019-11-17 06:53
#167
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Netherlands Im_gaaayyy 
You get profits by keeping prices down giving people more purchasing power. Competition leads to more purchasing power. Incentives like getting profit leads to people innovating. Who is going to invest all his time and money to develop something for which he won't get a return on his investment.
2019-11-17 11:43
Wrong
2019-11-17 12:20
Right. Internet, nuclear weapon, computers, spaceships were created in Soviet union💪💪💪
2019-11-17 15:32
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