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Intel or Amd
NiKo | 
India im_man_from_future 
Intel or Amd? With pros and cons .
2019-11-17 22:13
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amd cuz cheaper
2019-11-17 22:14
depends were you live
2019-12-01 17:28
#2
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Brazil Impulsionista 
Intel = games AMd = multitask
2019-11-17 22:15
nope, amd = game + multitasking
2019-11-18 04:20
#55
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Finland 0lter 
intel>amd at gaming its just fact dollar for dollar
2019-11-18 09:15
#70
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Kazakhstan blezzyzx 
omg, at what century are you living? double cheap AMD >>> Intel shit 250$ Ryzen 5 3600 155$ radeon rx 570 + 200$ other pc staff = stable 300-400 fps in csgo Have you seen Ryzen 9 comparisons to i9? benchmarks of ryzen >>> intel; fps - pretty same for games dependent on GPU -+10 for both CPU, BUT MOST important while gaming Ryzen CPU loaded 25% and king price Intel is trying fucking very hard to get same fps loading CPU 50-100%;
2019-11-18 10:01
#71
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Finland 0lter 
what are you on about lmao pcmag.com/compare/370690/amd-ryzen-9-390.. in gaming intel is better its just a fact, gaming today and in the near future wont be able to use many cores so amds many cores doesnt equate to better fps in games(excluding cs lmao). Intel has better single core performance so it beats AMD at 99% of all games by a country mile. Its just a fact. Look up the comparisons you insecure cuck
2019-11-18 10:08
#72
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Kazakhstan blezzyzx 
Are you born retard or become one? Is it too hard for you to understand from 25% CPU load meaning not using all cores? and that -10 fps for ryzen is very small margin and fps is mostly dependent on GPU. Excluding cs? isn't people here care about cs more than other games? But most importantly the fps test are taken under certain circumstances, what if you have a browser, anti virus, music, faceit client, anticheat, twitch or other staff is on? Guess CPU is now loading more and guess which one performs now better. You are insecure cuck here.
2019-11-18 10:35
#73
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Finland 0lter 
hahaha we are talking about gaming not cs, in general intel is better for GAMING which is what is being talked about. "what if you have a browser, anti virus, music, faceit client, anticheat, twitch or other staff is on?" Who cares??? If you are gaming and care about fps why would you have those on in background? You wouldnt is the answer we are talking about gaming performance not multitasking performance, because that isnt gaming. Maybe instead of being a moron you wake up and read the article i posted. Atleast read the footnote by the EXPERT, that which you clearly are not with your tengri brain
2019-11-18 10:39
#109
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Australia FlaKeXD 
whenever I play games I have discord or chrome on the other monitor, doesn't everyone?
2019-11-30 09:58
#115
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Finland 0lter 
Those dont affect fps lmao
2019-11-30 13:00
#169
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United Kingdom Cosharek 
Yes they do especially discord, at least in my case.
2019-12-02 04:11
#185
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Finland 0lter 
Then theres something wrong with your pc and thats on your end
2019-12-02 09:59
#206
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United Kingdom Cosharek 
It's been proven that discord uses a lot of processing power, on my end its around 15 to 20% and that amount of usage will impact your fps. I5 8600k at 5ghz btw
2019-12-02 19:42
#211
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Finland 0lter 
hahahaha show me your source on this as that is incredibly dumb
2019-12-02 20:59
Ofc apps in background decrease your fps. YOu think it runs magicly on another processor?
2019-12-02 09:11
#180
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Finland 0lter 
lmao its like 1 fps difference you autist
2019-12-02 09:52
depends which one
2019-12-02 09:53
#182
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Finland 0lter 
Grow a brain please
2019-12-02 09:53
Just go, jump from cliff and dont waste of my time
2019-12-02 09:54
#184
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Finland 0lter 
You are waste of air your mother shouldve cut you off from it when you were still in her womb If your cpu isnt at 100% workload and have enough ram for the game, then background apps wont affect performance AT ALL. 0 FPS difference and if you have good pc this is pretty much all games. So grow a brain look into things or get the fuck out and shut up
2019-12-02 09:58
0/8, everyone who's researched this know AMD is better value for dollar (unless intel shit goes on sale) Only thing intel has on AMD is market acquisition, which is why people like you do exist.
2019-12-03 06:10
#219
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Finland 0lter 
Lmao where did i say intel has better per dollar performance? I only said better value per dollar when it comes to gaming performance which is fact
2019-12-03 07:06
"I didn't say that intel had better value per dollar, only that it has better value per dollar" 0/8
2019-12-03 07:37
#223
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Finland 0lter 
When it comes to gaming, learn to read you autist
2019-12-03 09:03
#209
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United Kingdom Cosharek 
Typek jest idiota, nie warto czasu tracic.
2019-12-02 19:48
#227
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Kazakhstan blezzyzx 
sorry, buy you are wasted
2019-12-04 11:05
#228
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Finland 0lter 
And you are a moron. Go suck a dick and shove your lidl fx cpu up your ass
2019-12-04 11:35
pretty shit review actually. Idk where exactly a problem but looks like their 3900x cant boost to his peak freq. mb not best mobo or even bios or even wrong hands but cinebent singlecore points should be higher for 3900x
2019-11-30 03:03
#229
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Kazakhstan blezzyzx 
yeap, shittiest review for shitty people only)) Have you seen 3970x review, the intel is waaay behind.
2019-12-04 11:54
Well, I get 900 fps with 2080ti and i9-9900k, can't even get that performance with AMD no matter how many moneys you give to them.
2019-12-02 11:07
#203
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Cyprus delur 
300-400 fps in a game thats almost as old as the movie that made the world realize you guys exist KEK
2019-12-02 17:49
amd ryzen 3rd gen is faster in cs as linus techtipps demonstrated
2019-11-30 15:31
#141
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Finland 0lter 
which is why i said excluding cs
2019-11-30 18:30
#159
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Iceland fatboislim 
If you take 9900k out of the picture amd is better for gaming. So if youre not buying a 9900k then youre better off with amd no matter what.
2019-12-01 20:42
#172
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Finland 0lter 
lmao in general per euro intel>>>>>>>>amd at gaming Show me otherwise or get out
2019-12-02 07:56
stfu
2019-12-02 10:46
#189
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Finland 0lter 
Everything checks out
2019-12-02 10:57
ok intel fanboy. flair checks out -> total bot
2019-12-02 11:00
#230
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Kazakhstan blezzyzx 
total destruction
2019-12-04 11:56
i have intel core i7 i don't complain
2019-11-18 09:36
#3
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Panama FUN4ENCE 
Intel slightly more fps because better single-core performance AMD a better at multithreaded performance Plus most modern intel cpu's run a bit hotter than amd cuz they're still using 14nm That's pretty much it
2019-11-17 22:15
#36
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Australia Chereska 
+1, If you want to record or stream, Amd is the better way to go
2019-11-18 04:22
amd=red red=hot hot=me
2019-11-17 22:17
#25
HUNDEN | 
Lithuania gime114 
yeah but hltv comments are not worse than 8chan
2019-11-18 00:41
ofc Intel
2019-11-17 22:18
#160
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Iceland fatboislim 
How is your 9900k doing?
2019-12-01 20:44
Better than your AMD :)
2019-12-02 11:09
#193
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Iceland fatboislim 
i got 4790k still.going for amd next. so you dont have a 9900k?
2019-12-02 12:52
2080 Ti Msi Gaming X trio i9-9900k Corsair Vengeance 32GB 3200Mhz Seasonic 750w Platinum PSU Z-390 Asus A Prime 9x Corsair LL120 Corsair Crystal 570x case H150i Pro Is my current setup
2019-12-03 05:31
#215
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Iceland fatboislim 
Why shitty ram?
2019-12-03 06:03
Shitty ram? Ok kid
2019-12-03 06:07
#218
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Iceland fatboislim 
Considering the specs you have really bad ram. Either you dont know much or youre full of bullshit
2019-12-03 06:23
How is the ram bad? Too low Mhz No. Corsairs ram is bad? No wtf you on about.
2019-12-03 08:39
#6
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Israel JoustingBunny 
AMD because all around better value
2019-11-17 22:18
#7
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Poland misterr_ 
amd > incel
2019-11-17 22:18
3600 amd > all
2019-11-17 22:21
Intel gpu best
2019-11-17 22:24
#10
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Brazil fuNNa 
Intel
2019-11-17 22:24
#11
takej | 
Japan Mamerico 
New AMD is beast. AMD > Intel
2019-11-17 22:26
Best performance in csgo is currently with amd cpus, rest of gaming results are on par, or ~5% better on intel . Productivity, streaming, rendering is wayyy better on AMD, price wise amd is also a better value. Intel CPUs run much much hotter, and beefy cooling is required. So overall AMD wins this year, intel is seriously lacking behind.
2019-11-17 22:26
and amd comes with a cooler as well
2019-11-17 22:31
Yep, and a pretty decent one for a stock tbh
2019-11-17 22:33
although I never used mine, I bought an aio directly
2019-11-17 22:34
No, the i9 is the fastest in CS GO! i9 9900k/ks is the best cpu for gaming, but AMD is the best CPU on all tasks, is a better option! youtube.com/watch?v=stM2CPF9YAY&list=LL0.. youtube.com/watch?v=LCdA-bLRAfM&list=LL0..
2019-12-02 19:58
amd as long as you're getting the latest generation
2019-11-17 22:30
In csgo you maybe will get 5-10% more fps with intel but if you want to stream csgo amd is way better and you will get more fps Overall amd is better and cheaper
2019-11-17 22:30
Not true, new AMD cpu's have 12% better fps than 9900k @5.2 ghz in csgo, min,max,and avg
2019-11-17 23:16
I didnt know that The video i saw some weeks ago showed that the i7 had like 7% more fps than the 3600 Probably a fake stats video of intel famboy xd
2019-11-17 23:20
he isnt talking about i7 - 3600 tho 9900k = i9 i think
2019-11-18 08:28
AMD sponsors S1mple. So, you should buy AMD if you want to play like him.
2019-11-17 23:21
Nice try
2019-11-30 03:42
amd cuz cheaper + same performance as intel + more threads + no security flaws
2019-11-17 23:22
yes
2019-11-17 23:22
Amd cheaper and better in everything except 5 fps in gaming that you don't notice anyway
2019-11-17 23:23
Intel has the biggest dick. Amd has the price.
2019-11-17 23:29
3950x is 200$ more than 9900ks, bigger dick Threadripper 3990x is 3000$ more than 10980xe, biggest dick.
2019-11-30 03:23
so intel is better but amd products are cheaper
2019-11-18 00:46
nope, amd is better now.
2019-11-18 04:22
#161
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Iceland fatboislim 
No, amd is better and intel is the the budget choice
2019-12-01 20:47
amd 3000 if you dont wanna overpay for some extra fps
2019-11-18 00:47
today 2019-11-17 AMD AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
2019-11-18 00:52
or not in games acorrding to some benchmarks i just seen,
2019-11-18 01:18
Amd>intel this year Maybe until Intel release 10th gen cpus in 2020
2019-11-18 01:25
10th gen will bring nothing new. Just +2 cores on potentional 10900k but with 14nm it will be hot af (i almost sure it wont handle 5ghz at all cores so it will be worse than 9900k in games) next gen ryzen should be absolutely monsters compared to intel next gen (8cores per each CCX (4c atm) + better tech process). But something really new will be only in 2021 when ddr5 and new platforms from both manufacturers will be released
2019-11-18 04:07
why dont they introduce 11nm then?
2019-11-18 04:32
#51
Zeus | 
Ukraine Najara 
you mean 10nm they tried but failed too much broken cores for development therefore they abandoned it for several years..
2019-11-18 08:23
+1, amd is just getting ahead and ahead and all intel is doing is bringing out the next i9, with 10 cores, 5.1ghz, 14nm++++++, and 350W CPU. they really needed something like Infinity Fabric but they decided to jack off and do nothing when AMD had FX and nothing else. 32 cores on the mainstream soon? :)
2019-11-18 09:23
Next and CPUs are still zen2 architecture, so it won't have a huge performance increase.
2019-11-30 03:13
lul wut? it will be zen3 and new architecture xD amd said already
2019-11-30 09:30
No the next CPUs are still zen2.
2019-11-30 13:47
Oh shit your right. That's so damn fast.
2019-11-30 16:33
#32
fer | 
Brazil Vilarrel 
Intel = games AMD = games and Multitask
2019-11-18 04:09
Intel gaming
2019-11-18 04:11
#38
Hatz | 
Australia Pol1ceM4n 
You're retarded if you buy any Intel product today. AMD recently stepped the fuck up, because Intel pulled an IBM and didn't innovate, just let AMD walk all over them. amd is currently king by a mile.
2019-11-18 05:14
amd ryzen 9 3900x innit?
2019-11-18 06:09
#44
Hatz | 
Australia Pol1ceM4n 
I think so, haven't payed much attention to the market after building my PC lol
2019-11-18 06:13
nvm its amd ryzen 9 3950x thats the latest good boi btw, be updated on the market (or youtube) you never know, there can be a cheap processor thats op asf
2019-11-18 09:12
#39
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World Beard43 
The only people buying Intel right now are fanboys and people who couldn't be bothered spending a little time to look into it. Ryzen 3000 series is killing it.
2019-11-18 05:51
amen +1
2019-11-18 06:07
nice amd fanfag, just admit intel has always been lightyears better
2019-11-18 11:10
#78
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World Beard43 
Name checks out. Intel had around a decade of dominance, it's been over for more than a year now. I'm not a fan of any manufacturer, my last 3 builds have been Intel, one before that was AMD and 3 prior were Intel. I've always bought the best CPU on the market which is why my next build will be AMD. I never understood fanboys like you, I've always been a fan of competition because it brings innovation and advancement, neither of which have come from Intel in any way for a long time now. But enjoy your overpriced inferior CPU :-)
2019-11-18 15:54
0/8 bait, no1 is gonna fall for that one mate
2019-11-18 18:42
dude how did you fall for that just look at his name
2019-11-30 04:43
theyre both x86 processors lol just buy the one that fits on your motherboard.
2019-11-18 06:06
amd cos cheap perf
2019-11-18 06:07
best gaming performace = intel best value for your money = amd
2019-11-18 06:20
Intel is a POS with the security of a piece of swiss cheese i.imgur.com/rDQCE01.png
2019-11-18 06:25
#56
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Finland 0lter 
hahaha who cars
2019-11-18 09:20
#64
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Netherlands JeffreyC 
Lot of server plebs
2019-11-18 09:34
#65
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Finland 0lter 
WHO?
2019-11-18 09:35
#67
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Netherlands JeffreyC 
People with servers like microsoft mens)))
2019-11-18 09:36
cloud providers VPN servers ISP data centers all fk'd
2019-11-30 03:15
#113
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Netherlands JeffreyC 
Ok boomer
2019-11-30 12:32
Amd makes more noises, more heat, more power, cost less but doesnt last as long as intel.
2019-11-18 06:32
#48
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Australia Raychippy 
U just made up a bunch of bullshit lmao
2019-11-18 06:43
#59
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Finland 0lter 
its fact amd power reqs are higher
2019-11-18 09:23
actually not true with third gen ryzen (as long as you compare processors of the same core count) also, if you're going by TDP then you're being misled, TDP is a measurement of heat production and NOT powerdraw. also, intel and amd measure tdp differently so the two company's figures can't be compared directly.
2019-11-30 04:57
i love when people say something is a fact when they are completely wrong, like atleast take 5 minutes to look it up if you are gonna describe it as a fact you dumb idiot
2019-11-30 13:11
#140
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Finland 0lter 
amd higher tdp is a fact you retard, shove your amd up your dickhole you triggered little faggot
2019-11-30 18:29
do u even know what tdp is and how is it measured u fucking retard? XDD
2019-12-01 10:23
#148
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Finland 0lter 
TDP stands for thermal design power or, depending who you ask, thermal design profile. The TDP number tells you the maximum heat a computer chip, such as a CPU or GPU, can use in watts. It also is often used as a basic indicator of power consumption You are dumb
2019-12-01 17:27
AMD's TDP is close to the electrical maximum a CPU can draw (when it is operating at its maximum voltage). Intel's TDP is a "round up" average of power measurements of processor intensive benchmarks. You literally have it say "BASIC indicator of power consumption" which means the actual power consumption may vary extensively, which btw. it does and you can check it anytime u want, if you weren't this much of a dumb cunt.
2019-12-01 18:36
#170
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Finland 0lter 
show me your sources showing intels cpus being higher power usage than amds lmao all you do is type type but no proof
2019-12-02 07:52
any source >_< why onyone should find it for you? no hands?
2019-12-02 09:00
#179
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Finland 0lter 
Because it doesnt exist, that is why
2019-12-02 09:51
#201
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Finland 0lter 
Lmao just watched your first video link and it literally shows i9 9900k has higher fps in every game lmao just give up you moron 2nd that graph you posted is dubious at best, that is done on i9 9900k's 5ghz overclock which is significantly higher than 3900x oc (also much more powerful at gaming btw) at stock speeds i9 9900k power consumption is indeed lower than the ryzen counterparts. first 2 links are total BS to your point please get out low iq
2019-12-02 16:44
We are literally talking specifically about power consumption you absolute fucking twat, do you have a memory span of a goldfish? Lmao this fucking dude out here telling about fps in a power usage conversation, how fucking dumb do you get. I'm positive that you alone are lowering the average finland's IQ by 10 points. Just like u can talk about i9's higher overclock i can talk about 3900x having much more cores+threads, nothing you can say is going to get you out of this one, stop embarassing yourself, also even if first 2 links are "tOtAl Bs", what about the rest of them? Are we gonna conveniently skip those?
2019-12-02 17:46
#212
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Finland 0lter 
5th link is oc'd, as said before 5ghz is significantly higher than amd's 4.1 ghz also, the fifth link is taken from the site where it says this : "At stock speed in the AIDA stress test, the AMD processor uses 142W while the Intel CPU hits 113W. Using all those cores and threads seems to use quite a bit more power on the AMD CPU. If we overclock the i9-9900K to 5GHz and enable PBO on the Ryzen 9 3900X, the Intel CPU now uses more power at 175W versus the AMD at 168W." At stock speeds i5 draws less power than amd surprising no one. When OCing surprise surprise intels much higher ghz requires more power. Get out moron or grow a brain, you dont know shit
2019-12-02 21:18
intels much higher ghz requires more power. Thank you for proving my point, ez clap.
2019-12-03 08:41
#224
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Finland 0lter 
Your point was when overclocking an unlimited chip it takes more power than some AMD limited chips oc lmao gj dude nobody cares
2019-12-03 09:05
cry is free, qq
2019-12-03 11:48
thats why 95w 9900k can drain up to 300w? xDDDDD
2019-11-30 15:03
#150
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Finland 0lter 
Lmfao wtf are you on about dickweed
2019-12-01 17:30
nope just on about realshit intel indicating only "stock" tdp not boost. thats why 95w cpus can go over 200w at boost clocks and around 300w when OCed
2019-12-02 00:13
#171
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Finland 0lter 
lmao show source moron, because that is the most moronic thing ive read in a long time
2019-12-02 07:53
google banned you? or you cant read at all? intel not even hidding they calculating tdp for stock clocks but nt
2019-12-02 08:58
#178
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Finland 0lter 
hahahahahahaha nt amd fan gay no proof except one guy on reddit who is also moron like you
2019-12-02 09:51
Buy aftermarket CPU fan to fix noise. Everything else you wrote is nonsense.
2019-11-18 09:38
not anymore since ryzen 3000 series
2019-11-30 03:59
budget = amd money to spend = intel
2019-11-18 07:41
budget = amd money to spend = amd
2019-12-02 00:14
#50
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Ukraine Najara 
be smart - intel be poor - amd (80% of steam use Intel)
2019-11-18 08:20
#63
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Netherlands JeffreyC 
You know all that 80% mostly comes from chinese net café's right?
2019-11-18 09:33
be uninformed about tech developments - intel tech savvy - amd
2019-11-18 09:39
#94
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Bulgaria vectralsoul 
Are you still living in 2016? Be smart smart and rich - buy AMD (3950X, 3900X, 3800X, 3700X) Be smart and mediocre - buy AMD (3600, 2700, 2600) Be smart and poor - buy AMD (1600, 1400, 1200) Be brainwashed and straight up stupid - buy shintel. Just the way things are in 2019. /closed.
2019-11-30 03:38
#107
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Ukraine Najara 
even 9600x 6/6 better than ryzen 2700 8/16 on same Hz
2019-11-30 09:52
#114
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Bulgaria vectralsoul 
Uh-huh, in what? CS at 800x600? Doesn't matter if you'll get 350fps or 500fps - it's all the same. Now fire up a real triple-A game at 1440p or 4k with a GPU that isn't a bottleneck and the difference becomes less than 5%. While on the other hand, with multitasking and any kind of productivity, the Ryzen absolutely destroys it. Just gonna leave this here: i.redd.it/gwqzqs0jjw041.jpg
2019-11-30 12:38
hmmmm 6 thread for 200 bucks or 16 for 160. Hard choice
2019-11-30 15:06
That's mainly because AMD has sucked the last 10 years before they came out with the ryzen series.
2019-11-30 03:39
they had no notebooks aswell. using steam as statistic source is lol at best. 80+% using intel graphics xD
2019-12-02 00:15
9600k
2019-11-18 09:13
intel=profits???
2019-11-18 09:22
Haven't really followed the processors scene but heard AMD's stock have skyrocketed in the last 2-3 months
2019-11-18 09:22
Who carr
2019-11-18 09:26
i car 🚗🚗🚗🚗🚗
2019-11-18 11:08
good for u mens))
2019-11-18 21:36
Intel 9900k/9700k only when aiming for premium 144+hz experience. Otherwise there is no point in paying extra for the expensive intel cpu's, when ryzen 3000 series is almost as good but for lower prices. Also now there are more and more "Ryzen 3000 Desktop ready" b450/x470 motherboards getting sold, that does not require bios update to run the new CPUs out of box. However, if playing on 60hz or GPU is gonna be bottleneck anyway, then no contest - ryzen 5 2600 ez and cheap.
2019-11-18 09:31
I'd say buy 9700 or 9600 anyway AMD = shit QA, motherboards and drivers I bought 3600 the day it is out, had to RMA cuz died in 3 days and wait 20 days or so for replacement, have lots of new ryzen 1-3th gen rigs with like 30% occasional dead hangs in windows and such shit, mine have occasional stutterring even outside CS also for cs - AMD Ryzen has more input lag due to architecture a lot of people now fanboying AMD cuz they managed just now reach and overpass benchmark gaming performance of intel had it like at the end of 2017 (8700k), so umm I dunno what to say more
2019-12-02 00:26
intel is better in performance and overall quality amd cheap hoax
2019-11-18 11:07
#82
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Sweden Akoulad 
Better at scamming their customers absolutely
2019-11-30 03:04
#89
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Bulgaria vectralsoul 
Name checks out.
2019-11-30 03:27
good bait dude :)
2019-11-30 10:02
#77
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Poland AntOOr 
Newest CPU: amd Past generations: intel Laptops: amd doesn't really exist there unfortunately, so obv answer
2019-11-18 11:12
#83
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Sweden Akoulad 
In terms of gaming, no, but otherwise there's options with and. Lenovo , HP, Acer and apple have Amd laptops and they've made great progress in their APUs
2019-11-30 03:14
I bought a Ryzen 7 1700 and I love it. I really wanted multitasking/streaming capability so I got that. If gaming is your only priority, just get Intel if you don't care about money. AMD is a much better value tho
2019-11-30 03:14
GPU is more important. Get an amd because they are cheaper (3600), spend more money GPU.
2019-11-30 03:16
#97
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Belgium KYC 
At least get 3700x for dem cores
2019-11-30 03:39
If it's just for gaming then it's not needed.
2019-11-30 04:36
hello! would you recommend a combo of RTX 2060 super + AMD Ryzen 5 3600? I don't need top of the charts, just good at cs go 144Hz monitor and smooth 1080p. gaming on mostly high settings
2019-12-01 20:22
Yea that would be good.
2019-12-02 03:59
If you're on the budget go for AMD. If you want the best cpu for gaming i9 9900ks
2019-11-30 03:29
That depends on how much money you want to spend. At the high end. I would go for intel. In the mid and low range AMD all the way. Much more bang for your buck.
2019-11-30 03:30
#119
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World Beard43 
Why would you go for the inferior CPU at the high end? The 3950x decimates anything Intel has to offer.
2019-11-30 14:01
The 9900KS is still better for most games. Also the 3950x is pretty much unobtainium right now and costs almost twice as much. Not a good deal if you ask me.
2019-12-02 13:48
#204
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World Beard43 
It's not unobtainable, the first shop I checked has it in stock. If money is a concern at the high end for some reason the 3900x is a better option. The small performance gain for the 9900ks is not worth the 35% lower efficiency and 15% higher price (plus cooler price).
2019-12-02 18:14
Plenty of shops are "selling" it. But delivery time is about a month around here. Also like I said way more expensive than the 9900ks. Between the 9900ks and the 3900x it depends what you are looking for. If you can actually utilize the raw multicore power of the 3900x then go for that. For gaming? The superior singlecore performance of the 9900ks will give you better results in most games.
2019-12-02 18:46
Btw. I'm not an intel fanboy. I just ordered all the parts for a ryzen build myself. If maximum gaming performance - right now - was my main goal I would go for the Intel because of the high clock speeds. That being said I think that ryzen is the platform with more future potential. Intel is pretty much at the end of their rope with their current architecture. Ryzen still has a few good improvement steps left I think.
2019-12-03 02:59
amd = less money intel = more money
2019-11-30 03:32
thats why AMD has the most expensive Desktop CPUs right now. Because only poor idiots buy AMD right?
2019-11-30 10:01
You are right, i didn't search, intel is more worth buying for now, they had to low their prices to compete with amd.
2019-11-30 14:32
most expensive HEDT cpus aswell :D
2019-11-30 15:08
today. AMD in pretty much every price limit you can build. in any range of investiment but the very low it will be amd the best bang for buck. that is today. who know what will intel do next.
2019-11-30 03:37
i3 9100f. best budget cpu. but you can go for a ryzen 5 3600 for alot more performance for buck and it still is not that expensive. keep in mind that Gpu is alot more important tha Cpu for games. and for that you have to look for the cheapest cpu that will not stand in the way of you much more expensive Gpu. that is if you are looking for a pc for games. and if you go that way the more money you have different types of best build can be build. the majority is with AMD CPUS. the 5700 gpus are another very good AMD products that debunks nvidia with that same logic
2019-11-30 03:49
Best cpu for what? Stuttering?
2019-11-30 16:46
#95
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Belgium KYC 
Amd ofc, most powerful cpu on the market
2019-11-30 03:38
As much as I am pro Intel, I have to say AMD. Intel is so far behind with their 10/14nm crap. Nvidia for video card tho!
2019-11-30 03:54
would you recommend to take RTX 2060 super + AMD Ryzen 5 3600? considering that 1080p. gaming is enough for me
2019-12-01 20:27
depends on your goals and budget want to have 300+ in csgo = intel rich and dont care = both are good want to play csgo with 150 fps and on budget = amd
2019-11-30 09:36
Thats why i have 500 fps on 3700x Nt fangay
2019-11-30 09:55
bullshit, compared to any Intel CPU right now Ryzen 3000 is faster in CSGO
2019-11-30 10:00
@H@H@
2019-11-30 13:01
Intel any day
2019-11-30 14:02
#122
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Ukraine Najara 
Intel for games AMD for poor
2019-11-30 14:04
intel 400fps in csgo for 500$ amd 400fps in csgo for 350$ amd might be cheaper but it sure as hell ain't worse
2019-11-30 14:55
i5-7600 user? xD
2019-11-30 15:11
that picture explains it all i.imgur.com/bRj89zL.jpg
2019-11-30 15:07
today amd has an edge because the are most times better or close to intel and cheaper but if you only want raw fps in any game intel is still a bit better and amd comsumes more power but who cares ?
2019-11-30 15:12
AMD if only games, if you need rendering power go intel imo. I have r7 2700x and some rendering does not compare to my friend's system which is the same other than him having the intel equivalent
2019-11-30 15:28
What rendering?
2019-11-30 16:47
3d modeling, CAD work, video rendering, etc
2019-11-30 16:49
How is that better on the intel equivalent ? Not even equivalent, 9700k has 8 threads.
2019-11-30 20:16
#146
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Europe twitchy_ 
3D viewport work is better on intel in most of the programs since they prefer single core power, not sure on the engineering ones. In fact, if you use 8 cores, they don't usually get to more than 75% because multi threading is bad. Cpu rendering is better on AMD because it has more cores, but gpu's perform even better than any cpu, so... About video rendering there are some programs that have some boost depending on the codec and shit like that with intel above amd, but if you are rendering the video while you're playing (for example) amd should perform better. I mean, if you need to stream, play and encode at same time, amd is gonna be better, if you only play and nothing else, intel is gonna perform better, at least for now because 9700k without multi threading looks like is gonna underperform on the future, but who knows. About CSGO, it works a little better on AMD, but with a 9900k you have more than 550fps, so who cares if AMD have 20fps more. Even with quad cores that have almost 10 years you can achieve more than 100fps, so it's a bit of nonsense to buy a new pc just for csgo, unless you have a shit pc.
2019-11-30 20:35
#138
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India Wise_Indian 
AMD , better value for money
2019-11-30 16:50
#139
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Sweden GeT_CoRrEcT 
Intel because AMD is lower quality but you get what you pay for.
2019-11-30 16:52
#142
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Bulgaria vectralsoul 
0/8
2019-11-30 18:33
AMD has almost the same single core performance as Intel (gaming) with a much better multicore performance (work), and all of this for a cheaper price. Meanwhile Intel also struggles with security vulnerabilities. No question here which one is ahead currently.
2019-11-30 18:37
#145
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Other delmaszm 
people are really fighting over a 150-200€ difference, when I'd bet most of them have atleast a 100€ CSGO inventory
2019-11-30 20:23
AMD is superior currently and in the foreseeable future.
2019-12-01 17:31
#154
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Czech Republic wonderhead 
Intel got lazy and now amd is superior
2019-12-01 20:24
MD 😎
2019-12-01 20:26
#157
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United States JustBitsy 
Honestly for me im starting to favor amd. Intel is still superior but that is never a whole story. I can see how strong these amds are even if they dont win in a benchmark test point for point they are at least really competitive and that should scare intel a whole bunch actually.
2019-12-01 20:31
AMD rn They're better or close enough, and 3600 most value for 200 USD. 12 threads mate.
2019-12-01 20:34
AMD, going to bed now. will explain tomorrow
2019-12-02 04:06
AMD are currently better on any terrain, they are cheaper, have more cores, their single core performance is almost the same as intels (the difference will not be felt when doing things on the pc), their multithreating is a great thing, they provide very good customer service and the cpus are in general of very good quality. Intel is falling behind with the technology and anyone denying that has to stop fan boying and see what is going on in reality. Please check the latest benchmarks and do your research before you start arguing.
2019-12-02 13:03
#168
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Korea OKOptimistic 
Intel is pricier and performs better AMD is overrated
2019-12-02 04:09
Amd
2019-12-02 09:00
AMD
2019-12-02 09:19
AMD in every scenario. Anyone saying anything else at this point of time is stuck in the past or simply isn’t up to date with latest benchmarks. If not just low quality baiting.
2019-12-02 10:00
+1
2019-12-02 13:00
I use google quantum chip ez 1000000fps
2019-12-02 10:48
amd if ur house is cold
2019-12-02 12:53
they tend to get a bit warm tho, but even the stock cooler that comes with the cpu is very usefull actually.
2019-12-02 13:03
Guys help on this. What fps should i have with this? Amd Ryzen 5 3400g Quad-Core 3.8GHz with/Turbo 4.2GHz Gigabyte B450M DS3H. RAM G.SKILL Aegis 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3000MHz
2019-12-02 13:10
#207
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Hong Kong TROIIDA 
AMD better as long as you don't care about 20 fps difference
2019-12-02 19:44
Intel is more consistent AMD caused some random problems after random cs go updates Otherwise, for price/performance, AMD is better probably.
2019-12-02 19:44
Low Range: i3 > Ryzen 5 & Ryzen 3 Mid Range: i5 > Ryzen 5 Top Range: i7 = Ryzen 7 High End: i9 > Ryzen 9 Ultra: Ryzen Threadripper > Intel Xenon
2019-12-03 09:07
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