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Sg nerf useless
Germany Normal_hltvuser 
People will still buy it anyways imo
2019-11-19 08:18
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People will not buy it if they will do the same what they done with m4a1-s I mean they can slow it.
2019-11-19 08:19
yes they will, you think players won't Choose SG>AK and just have 1 Less flash, nt
2019-11-19 08:22
Nah, AK will be over SG after the nerf :)
2019-11-19 08:23
yeah but not to the degree you think it will LOL
2019-11-19 08:23
SG>AK always They'll bump the price to about $3000 and maybe slow the rate of fire a little bit but it'll still be a good choice for T's.
2019-11-19 08:35
It's the best choice, 1 Less flash to have the easiest/best gun in the game yes pls ty
2019-11-19 08:36
1 less flash doesn't affect the game on lower levels but it will on pro level, FaceIT lvl 10 and ESEA and maybe even dmg to global.....
2019-11-19 08:41
I'm level 10 and can assure you people will still take the SG over an extra flash, so will a lot of teams such as Furia & certain players on specific teams who are entry fraggers, Brollan for example
2019-11-19 08:43
Entry fraggers yes but supports I don't think so.... If supports start buying sg and losing a flash that might have a huge impact when executing....
2019-11-19 08:45
Yeah you're right, a lot of supports won't but if you think 2/3 out of 5 players won't take the SG over a flash ur wrong, it's the easiest gun to crack open a site and trade, granted there will be players who take the AK but it isn't going to change the game even 10% of what people think it will, it's still the superior gun lol
2019-11-19 08:46
I agree it will be the best choice for T and CT when you can buy it... ropz and such will still use AK to get kills and have a high impact
2019-11-19 08:48
ropz in military be like Me only use ak
2019-11-19 08:51
I still haven't learnt the SG spray even though its way easier than the AK, so I'll choose AK over SG all day every day
2019-11-19 09:51
United States fatburger 
Pull down and to the left and that’s it
2019-11-21 04:21
I usually get 1 taps with it, its very easy like that. But when I have to spray I usually go with the ak spray and it messes me up big time lmao. Gotta get used to it I guess
2019-11-21 05:38
Switzerland Humber99 
I will still buy it. SG over AK any day
2019-11-19 08:20
looks like you are retarded and go for kills instead of teamplay :^)
2019-11-19 08:31
if this isn't the saddest comment ive ever read, yeah dawg he aint a pro he just plays the game u clown lmfao
2019-11-19 08:35
Switzerland Humber99 
Lmao. So you say every pro who is using it isn't going for teamplay. I am actually a semipro lol
2019-11-19 08:38
Brother you said "sg over ak any day" so if you are buying as a team and you have like 4000 $ you buying sg with no nades, so you are just going for kills and do nothing for a good teamplay because you want to go for the kills :^)
2019-11-19 08:42
You are not a semi pro. Because a real semi-pro would prefer a ak now because you have at more utility
2019-11-19 08:44
United States KKonian 
i would guess semi pro = like top 1000 in EU but not very experienced in a team setting
2019-11-19 08:50
na semi pro is someone who is playing at high tier in the nation leagues.
2019-11-19 09:00
United States KKonian 
Yes but a self proclaimed semi pro is different than the true definition of it
2019-11-19 09:02
thats true
2019-11-19 09:12
Not even astralis will you clown.
2019-11-19 10:33
Switzerland Humber99 
You just don't understand how strong the SG is. It's more useful to play one Galil with full utility and one SG with no utility than two Ak's with 2 smokes with your 4000$ example. Think out of the box before you write shit that makes you look folish.
2019-11-19 12:02
1. I know how strong it is 2. if you are playing as team you can use the sg and playing around it like with an awp 3. if there are like 5 people thinking like you "I will still buy it. SG over AK any day" no utility in team at 4000$ and you are fucked. but sure if you are doing it like in #65 it makes sense. so you can´t say you can always prefer sg because this would be retarded. To buy it know you have at low buys it a lot bigger risk and you have to play it as a team.
2019-11-20 00:05
Lithuania arres 
dude stfu already with your theoretical bullshit, nobody cares who buys what in their mm games. Pros will probably be adjusting their eco round buys so that they would be able to buy as many SGs as possible. Of course sg over ak any time is correct. Everyone knows utility is needed, people will try to adjust their game for the price change. "It's more useful to play one Galil with full utility and one SG with no utility than two Ak's with 2 smokes with your 4000$ example" This makes sense actualy. At least makes enough sense to try that set up to see if it works in practice.
2019-11-20 00:18
Bro you talking the same shit like the guy before copy and paste and you think you are mastermind shut up and go somewhere else bro. and I already said it makes sense what he said in #65 and you are saying it again. Bro don´t talk to me if you are just copy things what "humber99" already said
2019-11-20 10:22
We'll see, but buying it at 3000$ means you're almost forcing yourself into a scenario where you play with the CT economy on the T side. I doubt it'll be as prominent in pro games anymore, fuck knows about MM games though.
2019-11-19 08:20
Netherlands glennakiN 
Good analysis
2019-11-19 10:18
Lithuania arres 
um... dude, Ts get bomb plant money, their molys cost less, they do not need 400$ for kits and it is not as important for all Ts to have full set of utility as is important for CTs. T economy is a lot easier. Oh... and Ts usually never play with double AWPs lol
2019-11-20 00:26
kennyS | 
India Ryuota 
it helps quite a lot actually imo, because it cant be bought in 2nd round after losing pistol... but still it needs a nerf cuz it makes ak and m4s look real bad, and even aug now. So either buff them or nerf this.
2019-11-19 08:30
But now we're going to have galils in the second round. Haven't tried it yet, so I don't know if it's op, but it's definitely not helping the meta
2019-11-19 08:34
It's aids, I just played a game and we had 5 Galil armour round 2 xdddd
2019-11-19 08:36
kennyS | 
India Ryuota 
it is bro famas is more accurate than galil ofc and it's just like a quicker buy round with Famas vs galil... one is more accurate and other has more ammo
2019-11-19 09:31
United States KKonian 
T side economy will hurt a lot if people are still trying to go full sgs unless winning hard
2019-11-19 08:34
Belarus ripnickname 
2019-11-19 08:35
Instead of making is more expensive, remove its first bullet accuracy and will be fine
2019-11-19 08:36
The first bullet accuracy is fine as long as you are scoped up, the fact that it applies to non scoped shots as well is a bit questionable. Seeing as you take a tradeoff in movement speed and narrowed vision while scoped up it makes sense for the gun to be "better" during those circumstances.
2019-11-19 08:39
France Bubuche 
Probably will not stop the SG but decrease the number of SG buy. That is a cool thing to balance the guns (Please stop being past oriented and stop asking the same CS as we have since 20 years)
2019-11-19 08:44
''People will still buy it anyways imo'' uhm yea? that's the whole point. Do you think a nerf should be equivalent to removing the gun from the game? What's the purpose of having the gun in the game if its not going to be used? People will buy it when they can afford it and I dont see the problem with that. Aslong as we get less of it on 2nd rounds its a big improvement, if it's still to OP for the price they can make another adjustment. I prefer this slight change rather than completely destroying the gun like they've done previously (tec-9, m4a1, aug, revolver etc..)
2019-11-19 08:46
United States 10YearBansRUs 
2019-11-19 08:52
Yesterday I had a god game and used AUG a few times and clutched with it both times... I don't agree it's completely destroyed it's just bad in 1v1's when you both know where you are... only use AUG when flanking AUG = shait still but idc AWP<SG btw
2019-11-19 08:56
I mean 200$ more for a downgraded version of the M4A4 in most scenarios. Destroyed is a strong word but I wouldn't say that more than 5% still use it, and most of those people still pick up the M4 more often.
2019-11-19 09:18
I use M4 if my team has an AWP and I don't have an AK... I just picked the AUG of the floor when we won eco
2019-11-19 11:39
Alright its not a crime not buy an aug xd
2019-11-19 11:51
I know I sometimes just buy it if nothing else works out for me in that game... I used to use the AUG every game when it was still good... I practiced the spray for a week straight and was able to get around 80% on moving target on spray map....
2019-11-19 11:53
I get you. I feel like the aug is underrated, the problem is that the pros have perfected the a4 spray which makes it superior and more viable considering the price. For most of us non-pros we will be more effective with the aug. Hitting more bullets>shooting faster.
2019-11-19 12:01
But reason everyone wanted the nerf was cuz it was overpowered
2019-11-19 08:57
That would ruin the whole point of the gun though? The purpose of the SG is for it to be an upgraded version of the AK. If they nerf the accuracy/fire rate/scope etc.. we might not see it being used again, and they clearly don't want that. This price change is possibly too low of a difference-maker, but they can still increase it further in the future rather than killing off the gun right away.
2019-11-19 09:16
Finland Cucumberous 
2019-11-19 09:04
Germany leftist 
+1 ump and tec are almost pointless after the nerfs, p250 also lost its value
2019-11-19 12:14
i think the ump is fine, it still gets used but is outshined by the mp9 due to it being so good. The p250 is really good for its price and is a big upgrade compared to the stock pistol but the thing with the new economy is that you can almost always afford to spend 500-700 in ecos to get the best pistols, if you're not spending that you're just doing a full eco to get the best possible buy. The raid boss strat is still pretty common (dropping p250 to armored player on t-pistol) I've seen players like ropz and s1mple being dropped quite often.
2019-11-19 15:17
Europe jvesper 
galil era lets go
2019-11-19 08:54
Famas better than galil 200%
2019-11-19 08:56
Nah the galil is cheaper and better.
2019-11-19 09:32
Europe jvesper 
ye ct side scout still better than famas t side galil better than scout
2019-11-19 09:44
Famas is better than scout in almost all aspects. Just the one shot headshot thing is better with the scout.
2019-11-19 10:16
Galil is so shit it doesn't even hit a barn wall... Famas is better Famas is easier to control
2019-11-19 11:37
Galil feels better to use for me at least. Longer range weapon. I can out duel CTS with M4. But it's personal preference i guess.
2019-11-19 12:11
I don't like the galil at all... But I can use it if it comes to clutching and winning the round
2019-11-19 12:12
Yeah I guess I’m just used to using it. The famas is great as well.
2019-11-19 13:33
ZywOo | 
Asia myke1 
need to nerf krieg no scope accuracy
2019-11-19 09:04
Finland Love_God 
Should be 3300 and slower ROF
2019-11-19 09:14
should be 17k
2019-11-19 09:52
Finland Love_God 
2019-11-19 10:29
Sweden undie 
Like 300 will make it less op ........ LOL
2019-11-19 09:20
i buy p90
2019-11-19 09:21
SaufS | 
Switzerland zulecsgo 
people dont get that the SG was like this for years now right? the only thing that made it popular was the prize... i dont remember the prize of it before it got so popular tho was it 3150? same for aug btw... IT NEVER GOT BUFFED! it was just the prize that made people try it.. the gun was literally the same before
2019-11-19 10:22
Sweden Trkmag 
Yes, and then it still was op before, just that very few people realized it.
2019-11-19 12:02
I'm pretty sure everyone and their mother knows that and it's beside the point. But whenever there's talk about the SG, someone has to point out that the gun has always been that way, as if people didn't know.
2019-11-20 05:33
so it should be allowed to stay the way it was, no one complained about AK/M4 being overpowered when they were literally 85% of the buys per game
2019-11-21 04:13
Yeah its still 3000 even ak have more high price
2019-11-19 10:30
Norway JorgyZ 
Dont think everyone will buy it now, in a round where money is kinda scarce they will buy SG's on the top players (like brehze and cerq for example) and the rest of the team buys ak's OR more likely galils with extra nades Its a nice nerf i think, it wont stop the sg completely, also another huge thing, if im not retarded people will rarely be able to force up sg's on the force round after pistol when they get bomb plants unless they get enough kills to buy it. Dont think we will be seing 3 sg's on force round anymore
2019-11-19 10:36
Romania En!gma0 
Nerf doesn't mean screw the weapon, they did this shit with AUG. Raise the price but let it be a key weapon for some plays.
2019-11-19 10:34
Sweden Trkmag 
Fully agreed, they need to nerf the stats on it or just nuke the prize
2019-11-19 12:02
stop trying to make the gun useless just cos you lose in matchmaking to it. Raising the gun price again is fine and pro players will most likely go back to using AK more because you need full nades in each round.
2019-11-19 12:10
You do know the stats was the same before they lowered the price.. people just didnt buy it.
2019-11-19 13:35
You do know there was already a dick in your mouth before you realised you were gay right
2019-11-20 07:39
Must say the intellect you show is beyond words.. Your parents must be proud.. Good thing with people like you is. One dont even need to say anything.. What you do speak more to what you are than any word of mine could.. However thanks for helping my statement mate.. Good luck with your problems about your sexual alignment.. Remember its okay.. its only your lack of intelligens and such we judge you by.. not what you like.
2019-11-20 10:58
the fact that ure using the "it was der before LOL XD" argument makes u a more retarded person than i
2019-11-21 03:46
Well... Looking at what I write, and what you write. online. in a forum.. Well lets just say our actions, what we say or write. tells others who we are.. so.. by that im happy with how we will be "rated" against each other.
2019-11-21 12:05
Italy AlCapone1925 
A real nerf would be an increase to 3500$
2019-11-20 00:07
2019-11-20 07:38
$3150 would have been fine, which basically forces a T to get two kills with bomb down in pistol to buy it after a round loss. It's now still possible with just one kill, which is pretty much guaranteed for 1-2 people anyway if you're successfully getting bomb down. It also makes a difference of 2 flashes or a smoke/molly, which is a lot more significant than 1 flash. Outside of the price, either a slight accuracy nerf only when unscoped, or a slight fire rate nerf across the board would be best. This then makes it situational as an entry fragger's gun, or an AWP substitute when low on money, but still keeps it relevant in the game.
2019-11-20 00:32
Reply needs to have actual content
2019-11-20 05:35
Até they using the nerf or the old sg price at Asia championship?
2019-11-20 05:40
India JW_BesTesT 
Old i suppose
2019-11-21 05:50
$250 nerf is totally pointless. It should be $3400 atleast. And they need to rollback aug and make it $3900.
2019-11-20 05:42
Imo it should be at least 3200
2019-11-20 07:44
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