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the mibr problem
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Finland aqua_rius 
The way I see it, there's only one major problem inhibiting MIBR. The system they try to play. Since losing the core of Cold-Fer-Fallen, they simply have lacked a working system. In my opinion the biggest problem is Fallen not being able to utilise his stars properly. He gives all freedom for fer to play his signature, aggressive style, while players like TACO or kng- suffer a LOT. Taco is simply not a good fit for the system. They don't have a dedicated role-based system, thus making it completely useless to have a full support in your team. It works in Astralis because the players have set roles to follow and Xyp is great at filling the space, plus the best clutcher there is. In my eyes though, TACO is not the problem. The problem is Fallen and he has to go. He is one of the greats undoubtedly and has a great ceiling but just can't utilise his players well enough. The problem? He really is the only decent IGL in Brazil. I'd do the same Navi did. Add meyern for Lucas1, then after a while -Fallen +Luken. Roles? Fallen has to teach someone to IGL. Preferably TACO, since he is already support and his game wouldn't alter a lot. New MIBR with top5 potential: Luken (rifler, entry) meyern (star player) kng (main awp) fer (lurk) TACO (IGL - support) Cheers, what are your thoughts?
2019-12-03 19:46
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#1
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Finland aqua_rius 
Bump, got lost in the thread hell
2019-12-03 19:49
#2
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Hungary mEZENCEphalon 
only solution is disband
2019-12-03 19:50
+9
2019-12-03 19:51
#3
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Sweden meistr0 
2019-12-03 19:50
#6
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Finland aqua_rius 
Not now, obviously. FalleN is a great CS mind and someone has to do it when he is gone. kng-? he is more of a free player, roaming the map, cant focus on IGL'ing and his own game. Fer? I wouldn't sacrifice the only good player of the current roster plus he's a great lurk. meyern/luken? hell no, the 2 decent players in this roster. which leaves TACO, or someone else brought in for him
2019-12-03 19:53
#8
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Germany AdiZen 
TACO is not smart tho
2019-12-03 19:58
#9
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Sweden meistr0 
"and someone has to do it when he is gone" Yes? Heard of adding another IGL?
2019-12-03 19:59
#14
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Finland aqua_rius 
"which leaves TACO, or someone else brought in for him" sure. let's speculate. IGL's in Brazil/IGL's all around IGL's in brazil who have achieved atleast moderate international success: Art, FalleN. who do you suggest
2019-12-03 20:04
#19
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Sweden meistr0 
Well obv arT wont happen if they dont pay a HELLA big sack of money for him. If we look at other IGLs: Steel (Ex-teammate of some of the players) Tiburci0 (Detona Gaming) PKL (Pain Gaming) yeL (INTZ) JNT (Sharks) Bit (Team One, but hes garbage)
2019-12-03 20:09
#21
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Brazil Allistar 
Horvy ayy
2019-12-03 20:16
#23
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Finland aqua_rius 
yel does not seem like a player with too much potential to lead mibr tbh. steel just signed with movistar, so the money goes the same. i know about furia's payouts so thats why i didnt really even try to argument with him bit is obviously not a tier 1 player, not even close leaves us with PKL, JNT and Tiburcio Tiburci0 is the CEO of Detona, so i highly doubt he'd be leaving his own company for MIBR, or they'd atleast need to pay big cash for him, awper with 1.04 rating. kng would probably awp better. PKL is the obvious choice of these 2. i'd add him over taco, he's already a support so can take a strong role as a IGL/support over taco. unproven but 1.15 rating past 3 months. JNT has a 1.06 rating and only 33% hs rate. sure, looking at these we could also do -taco +PKL. leaves us with kng (awp) fer (lurk) PKL (igl+support) meyern (star) luken (rifler) actually a decent team.
2019-12-03 20:17
#5
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Europe 3lectr0 
U must not kick them. Wild animals cannot be kept in captivity
2019-12-03 19:52
#7
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Finland aqua_rius 
lol, why cant anyone be serious here
2019-12-03 19:56
TACO
2019-12-03 20:00
#11
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Montenegro c4zen 
missing SK :(
2019-12-03 20:02
I dont know about the line up u made up. But i totally agree about Fallen. It seems like he doesnt care about another perspective of the game and every single player who join the team have to ignore his own style to fit at the system that doesnt work anymore.
2019-12-03 20:02
#16
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Finland aqua_rius 
#15
2019-12-03 20:05
TACO is the problem, prob next -taco +v$m
2019-12-03 20:03
#15
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Finland aqua_rius 
-luken +vsm here if he wasnt vacbanned
2019-12-03 20:05
#17
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Brazil Bene_Tleilax 
Their problem started when they kicked fnx without him knowing a long time ago
2019-12-03 20:06
#18
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Finland aqua_rius 
agreed. felps worked for a while but after clashing with fer's playstyle it was doomed
2019-12-03 20:08
#20
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Brazil Bene_Tleilax 
fnx was a great rifler, experienced, clutcher and a great morale boost a la the twins. Unfortunately it seems talents like him in Brazil are doomed by success itself.
2019-12-03 20:11
#25
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Finland aqua_rius 
yeah. though team chemistry is important aswell
2019-12-03 20:21
#22
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Brazil erfur 
the best solution: art IGL - playmaker fer - entry kng - main awper Yuri - support kscerato - lurk
2019-12-03 20:16
#24
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Finland aqua_rius 
sure, looks good on paper, furia just doesnt let their players go
2019-12-03 20:18
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Brazil nlxy 
this might work
2019-12-03 20:27
#27
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Finland aqua_rius 
#23
2019-12-03 20:31
#28
DickStacy | 
Brazil nlxy 
the only bad thing of your theory is that it fucks with sharks, a team with so potential
2019-12-03 20:34
#29
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Finland aqua_rius 
well yes, but luken and meyern create that potential
2019-12-03 20:35
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DickStacy | 
Brazil nlxy 
actually jnt and exit have shown really good potential over the last tournaments You haven't been active recently and cannot post replies repeatedly within five minutes
2019-12-03 20:41
#32
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Finland aqua_rius 
yeah i really can't tell since i am not a huge follower of br cs. this was just my take on the problems on mibr and how to fix that team, not about anything else also, how high is sharks' ceiling? top 30-20? thats something to also consider. if mibr + sharks players has a higher ceiling vs sharks or mibr as a solo team unchanged i'd go for the swap
2019-12-03 20:42
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Brazil nlxy 
well, that was a good take on solving mibr's problems but I didn't like it just because imo Sharks has the potential to be a new furia and be a consistent top 10-15 team. You could make changes not as hurtful to the BR scene by taking players with great potential from already dead or irrelevant teams like TRK from TeamOne or ableJ that is stuck in furia's shit second team
2019-12-03 20:46
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Brazil leivasss 
yep
2019-12-03 20:37
who cars?
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