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"Support Role" ~ CSGO
United States Traderslife 
This is a Bullsh*t role made by the worst players on pro teams to cover up their stats.... I mean just think about it.. why is it always the "Support" that has to be the worst one on the team.
2019-12-03 19:46
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#1
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Poland gg_retard 
flag checks out
2019-12-03 19:47
+1
2019-12-03 22:07
+1 im american too but thats such an american thing to say...
2019-12-03 23:50
#113
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Spain GamerGuillem 
+1 of course american
2019-12-04 00:05
USA has same average IQ as Spain kkkkk look it up idioto
2019-12-04 14:48
#177
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Spain GamerGuillem 
to be honest WE DON'T CARE
2019-12-04 15:05
Poland has same average IQ as USA how’s it feel kkkkkk
2019-12-04 14:49
Favela has same average IQ as third world countries kkkkk
2019-12-04 14:50
MIBR fan talking lol
2019-12-04 20:36
Xyp9x is not always the worst?? Lmao Xyp9x brain is bigger then your future btw.
2019-12-03 19:47
Worst rated player on the team.....
2019-12-03 19:49
Its not only about fragging though. If you let Xyp9x go loose he can actually frag quiet good. Also remember all his clutches... Its not only his brain but also his aim.
2019-12-03 19:59
#73
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Germany AdiZen 
his aim is decent but in clutch situations it gets crispy
2019-12-03 22:30
Xyp9x in clutch situations is a god like aimer with the biggest brain in CSGO. 💪🤣
2019-12-03 23:08
#88
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Germany AdiZen 
ye his aim becomes like eliges or idk
2019-12-03 23:18
you're giving me instant cancer.
2019-12-04 00:05
name checks out
2019-12-04 10:39
so does yours.
2019-12-04 16:12
#116
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Europe sn00b_d0gg 
that is true
2019-12-04 00:19
Yeah even so still 1.09 rating as the worst player of the team he even beats some ratings of tier 3 "superstars"
2019-12-03 20:02
Still the worst player.
2019-12-03 21:53
#42
shox | 
France gay4shox 
dupreeh had worse stats a few days ago, it doesn't mean a shit, gla1ve had way worse a few months ago he was better rated than anyone else in Astralis
2019-12-03 22:06
so, who would you put in the place of xyp9x? zywoo?
2019-12-03 23:44
well duh, there has to be someone with the lowest stats??? what is your point here
2019-12-04 10:33
#74
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Germany AdiZen 
dont look at stats compared to other teams / players please
2019-12-03 22:31
No one specifically says there is a support role. Rather there are several supportive positions on each map, as well as supportive tasks. A supportive position is usually an anchor on a site. Supportive tasks include: - Entry fragging - Flashing for teammates - Setting teammate up for an opening kill by playing around them There are more, but in any case none of those are recorded. Those stats are not going to boost your HLTV rating, yet the kills gained from them by teammates would not be possible without the player who laid the groundwork. It all seems so simple until you have to intuitively know which teammate needs what type of help. It's a mindset which is very unique and not every player can do that. Some teams don't have a set supportive player but there are definitely teams who let one player do almost all supportive tasks and play those positions for them.
2019-12-03 20:05
#28
RpK | 
France HippzZ 
+1
2019-12-03 20:47
actual intelligent person on hltv
2019-12-03 23:35
#111
fnx | 
Brazil kalil420 
+1
2019-12-04 00:03
#119
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Denmark UX_Designer 
+1
2019-12-04 01:22
Finally someone who gets it. +1
2019-12-04 06:47
Double post.
2019-12-04 06:48
the biggest +1
2019-12-04 06:52
#146
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
+1
2019-12-04 10:33
#150
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France Random69420 
+1
2019-12-04 10:37
#155
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Denmark Sir_Cumcised 
thanks for a nice comment
2019-12-04 10:44
#173
chrisJ | 
United Kingdom snekky 
+1
2019-12-04 14:47
#178
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Poland morosek 
A smart hltv user ;o. +1 for you Sir
2019-12-04 15:07
+1
2019-12-05 22:34
#3
Magisk | 
United States JeyyR 
0/8
2019-12-03 19:48
flamie pretty good support for example, xyp in 18 too
2019-12-03 19:48
Xyp9x and magisk are terrible right?
2019-12-03 19:48
oh yeah, the worst of the worst
2019-12-04 07:06
#6
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United States NA_LULW 
Bc they are the one throwing nades, for the entry so they don’t get a lot of kills, and if a person dies they always are trying to trade
2019-12-03 19:48
ttrading is way easier than entrying
2019-12-03 21:54
#93
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Argentina Joedash 
depends
2019-12-03 23:37
#64
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Germany AdiZen 
its the old support role which was not well defined and tbh thats what pros criticized but now entryfraggers / anchor / passive are the support players
2019-12-03 22:23
Still, flashing for the other player is one of the most typical things for a support
2019-12-03 22:33
#78
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Germany AdiZen 
yea but also not that much every player has to use flashes so that the team wins
2019-12-03 22:34
KRIMZ was top 2 player at the end of 2014 playing support
2019-12-03 19:49
#8
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Iceland CHAPOLE! 
Even krimz who people consider a support said it in an interview. This role doesnt exist and if anything it is one of the easier roles. The worst role is entry fragger
2019-12-03 19:49
+1
2019-12-03 19:50
+1
2019-12-03 20:28
this. Support has the same utility and same weapons. Why would players justify their bad performance by saying he is support. When taco misses easy shot- "he is support". THis is bullshit. ROFL
2019-12-03 22:01
#96
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Argentina Joedash 
being support has nothing to do with your aim, you SUPPORT your teammate and the role exists, broky is support, xyp9x is support, and they dont have a lot of impact the whole game, but in the important rounds is the supports time to shine. Great timing with flashes, fast trades, a nice bait, whatever you do to make your team win is important but is true that it isnt the greatest role since you are not making the flashy momves that s1mple, zywoo, niko or any star does
2019-12-03 23:41
I dont say supports do not exist. I dont say that they are not impactful. I just hate when someone justifies bad performance by this role. U can be support but that does not allow u to miss easy shots. Taco is support. Styko, rpk as well. But this doesnt mean u should play bad on daily basis.
2019-12-03 23:46
#103
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Argentina Joedash 
i agree with you, your aim has nothing to do with your role. Thats an excuse fangays say to lie themselves, e.g. Taco, who sucks completely
2019-12-03 23:45
#128
shox | 
Korea Jew2K 
Yeah but people define 'bad' via ratings, which often do not taken into account the primary jobs of supportive players.
2019-12-04 01:38
They wouldnt be able to do the moves though that's why they are support. U can try and set up broky as much as u set up niko and he woldnt even have half of niko's frag.
2019-12-03 23:46
#109
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Argentina Joedash 
yap, as well as you cant put rain as awper since he is horrible with it
2019-12-04 00:02
+1
2019-12-04 00:13
#61
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Norway PeteZz 
+1 Entry fraggers usually die, and sometimes they get good flashes from team mates, and get a kill or two when entering.
2019-12-03 22:19
#77
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Germany AdiZen 
he was probably talkiing about the old support role there definitely is one
2019-12-03 22:33
#10
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Sweden PentaPenguin 
Who is support on Liquid ? Astralis ? Fnatic ? EG?
2019-12-03 19:49
in liquid its twistzz and stewie, in astralis its xyp9x and gla1ve, in eg idk tbh I dont watch lots of their games
2019-12-03 20:00
#63
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Germany AdiZen 
tarik and stan i guess
2019-12-03 22:20
#32
Aleksib | 
Finland MorstB 
in eg mostly stan and brehze/tarik
2019-12-03 21:57
Liquid Stew Astralis Xyp9x or Gla1ve Fnatic idk EG Stan or Tarik
2019-12-03 22:14
Because they play play shit positions/ancher, alot of retakes as ct and setting up teammates as a t
2019-12-03 19:49
agreed. 100%.
2019-12-03 20:27
#60
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Germany AdiZen 
have you escaped silver elohell yet?
2019-12-03 22:19
im level 9 on faceit and global so yes lol
2019-12-04 01:18
#19
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United Kingdom bruhmusmummus 
its less 'support' and more 'bitch'. play the shitty positions on ct, throw the nades, bait for the stars, etc. do agree it should not be used as an excuse for bad gameplay tho
2019-12-03 20:30
+1 on the last point I don't think it's an excuse for bad number but rather the other way around. You don't become a worse player because you are support, rather you are support BECAUSE you are a worse player(than the star players)
2019-12-03 22:06
Big brain shit being said here. I can see u have high IQ and also u understand cs. GJ my friend. I cant stand people missing easy kills from behind and hitting me with the support excuse.
2019-12-03 23:49
#59
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Germany AdiZen 
yep but you cant say bitch in a prof. stream tho xD
2019-12-03 22:18
#20
OCEAN | 
United States KKonian 
There are people who are setup to get more frags and people who set others up to get more frags
2019-12-03 20:28
#21
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United States TrashPanda 
Apparently everybody has to be Device, Simple and Zywoo or they suck. Okay. Fucking retards on HLTV I swear.
2019-12-03 20:29
#33
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Belgium therealV1c 
ikr it pisses me off too
2019-12-03 21:57
#57
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Germany AdiZen 
they are the typical arrogant brats you meet in matchmaking who think that them alone can win games
2019-12-03 22:17
#79
puTa | 
Portugal ArtyoMM 
exactly this fucking braindead kids man jesus christ first get to lv 10 faceit, then MAYBE open your mouth fcuking hell
2019-12-03 22:34
#154
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Serbia NitrouZ 
you think 10 lvl players know how to play a role other than baiting and crying saying how the round should be won after we already lost it?
2019-12-04 10:44
#157
puTa | 
Portugal ArtyoMM 
I think we know better than you
2019-12-04 11:22
#158
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Serbia NitrouZ 
post your faceit profile my friend? faceit.com/en/players/NitrouZ 3k elo you know better i guess
2019-12-04 11:23
#159
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Serbia NitrouZ 
everygame i play i have to be the psychiatrist of the team so they play as a team.
2019-12-04 11:26
#22
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Finland BMW_xseveN 
XSEVEN BEST SUPPORT PLAYER
2019-12-03 20:30
Alongside with xartE
2019-12-03 22:10
Worst player on the team.
2019-12-04 20:30
#23
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Australia Dadecum 
why would teams pick up support players if they're useless then?
2019-12-03 20:31
Yes, just an excuse for shitty stats It is simple, if you have better stats you're better player, there's no such thing as 'support role', 'baiter' or 'just holding angles'
2019-12-03 20:31
#52
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Germany AdiZen 
then fer is better than cold in the past three months (excluding this current tournament)
2019-12-03 22:15
LMFAO 0/8 "there's no such thing as 'support role', 'BAITER' or 'just holding angles' " The third i have never seen someone complain about, the first is debatable and the second of course exist (not in pro scene) what they call baiters here is the guy that always pick up a position where someone play for him shiny.
2019-12-03 22:21
Yep. In optimal CS, supporting should be based purely off the situation. It shouldn't be a dedicated position/role. Think about it: Throwing utility for your teammates should depend on where you are on the map. Does it make sense for someone in the front of the team to walk all the way back to toss a popflash for everyone? An entry who can frag is valuable over cannon fodder. An anchor who can pick up kills is always preferred. Everyone knows how to stall and delay in high level CS. A player might be in a position where it's advantageous for them to peek first in a double peek situation to maximize odds of the kill. it shouldn't always be the 'support' player peeking first.
2019-12-03 20:39
Someone using their brain +1
2019-12-03 20:34
#70
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Germany AdiZen 
you should use your brain lmao have you even watched a pro match yet? dont you understand that pros actually prepare stuff? and its not random who is entryfragger and who is lurker and whos awper?
2019-12-03 22:28
You don't understand what people mean when they say "support" then
2019-12-03 22:02
My take isnt even unique. Teams like astralis and liquid hold this view because this is how you play at the highest level. Plain and simple.
2019-12-03 22:39
#100
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Argentina Joedash 
astralis is purely dependant on strategy, they are not simple and they dont think everything in the moment, imagine xy9x entry fragging
2019-12-03 23:44
#39
Aleksib | 
Finland MorstB 
obviously this but not everyone can have zywoo aim and those who have need help they cant play a 1v5 . Superstars need to be set up to be at their best and thats why supportive players exist, it is their job to sacrifice themselves to allow the igl make better calls and let the superstar to go off.
2019-12-03 22:03
#51
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Germany AdiZen 
not really ofc there are situational stuffs but when you prepare smth then you have a system and its better to have it than having to have 5k iq
2019-12-03 22:14
Which is why the best teams in the world doesn't have a taco style support right?
2019-12-03 22:37
#129
shox | 
Korea Jew2K 
Each team prepares in their own way, so you can't make the argument that if they don't have a support like taco they don't have a system. LG/SK won 2 majors with 'taco style support.' Also of course there will be situations where it's best to not let roles dictate who does what, but that's just mid rounds. More often than not teams will run executes where everyone is making moves based on their role. For e.g. if a team are on an eco but the 'entry' picks up a rifle, they'd adjust for him to bait, but you don't often see teams just run in randomly based on what order their standing, like Astralis will tend to keep Xyp alive till the end to clutch, or Stewie will usually run in first for TL.
2019-12-04 01:47
For me a support player is one who plays positions the other players don't like to play. That's a very important player to have on any team. Can't have a team with 5 people who think they are star players. Look at Faze...
2019-12-03 20:41
This role doesn't even make sense..
2019-12-03 21:54
#50
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Germany AdiZen 
lol it ofc does make sense players cant techincally be in the same spot also one spot is alawys better than the other
2019-12-03 22:12
#34
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United States jay_320 
Support player is a word for anchor/entry fragger. Stewie2k is a perfect example of what people are talking about. High impact player but not a volume fragger. As an aside just continuing with the Liquid example. This doesn't mean that other players don't know how to throw utility or there is just one guy doing. Although obviously you are going to have a guy like Nitro throwing your flashes for Elige in most situations rather then vice versa. Just the same I gurantee you Elige knows about every nade in the game.
2019-12-03 22:01
#47
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Germany AdiZen 
not really xyp9x is the most famous support player and hes just a half anchor stewie is the bait entryfragger that often igls have as their job such as gla1ve karrigan zeus
2019-12-03 22:10
#65
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United States jay_320 
Xypnx is certainly the most famous. But Stewie I think defines the word better as Xyp as you noted isn't a full time anchor or entry. To your point though it's obviously not a fully defined term as a lot of ppl here have differing opinions.
2019-12-03 22:23
#67
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Germany AdiZen 
they are two different type of supports
2019-12-03 22:23
#68
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United States jay_320 
And Stewie often doesn't do pure entry work. This is part of my point. Oftentimes Liquid's entry pack is Elige, Nitro and Twistzz and they'll put Stewie on the wings with NAF. Not always of course but sometimes.
2019-12-03 22:25
#71
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Germany AdiZen 
oftentimees is the wrong word stewie is most often the entry fragger when they do executes
2019-12-03 22:29
#81
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Sweden MANDlNGO 
What is the other one, childsupport?
2019-12-03 22:38
#84
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Germany AdiZen 
supports = supportplayers
2019-12-03 23:03
#35
Billy | 
United States Russso 
theres no such thing as roles its a hoax
2019-12-03 22:00
silver spotted
2019-12-04 01:26
#142
Billy | 
United States Russso 
im 10x better than u
2019-12-04 07:00
ooh you're hard
2019-12-04 13:54
#169
Billy | 
United States Russso 
ik i am u juvenile ass
2019-12-04 14:07
lmao what the fuck is wrong with americans
2019-12-04 14:43
#171
Billy | 
United States Russso 
what in the unholy fuck is wrong with the UK letting so many immigrants in
2019-12-04 14:45
idk man, I'm not the fucking prime minister so what effect do you think I can have on the number of immigrants
2019-12-04 14:46
so why faze allways so bad, 5 epic victory royale gamers
2019-12-03 22:03
Support players are the guys that play worse positions/anchor positions to give their star players the room to roam around the map and find duels. They are also the first to sacrifice fire power in order to get equipment in the form of grenades/defuse kit.
2019-12-03 22:03
This just has to be a really bad bait
2019-12-03 23:42
IGL ? maybe you remember Zeus,Azr,Daps,Stan,Golden,Xizt,Karrigan,Hunden,Gob B and rest Igls imo have often bad stats
2019-12-03 22:04
coldzera - worst player - top1 2016,2017
2019-12-03 22:08
#46
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
We got a retard on our hands guys, go easy on him
2019-12-03 22:09
My god are you wood 1? Or is this just a really bad bait?
2019-12-03 22:14
#55
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Brazil goatzera 
Agree, anyone can do it, a team doesn't need a "support" only for this function
2019-12-03 22:16
#56
shox | 
India iejesus 
Lmao stfu
2019-12-03 22:16
Niko, Krimz, NBK, Xyp9x.. we can mention and mention.
2019-12-03 22:17
?? Its cold and nbk isn't good support anymore. Also supports are of two types. NiKo can be like top tier support as he can provide flashes, trades and can hold sites. Fragging supports shouldn't be called support but second entry(these are other type of supports), eg Krimz,twistzz, etc. Actual supports are NiKo,xyp9x,AmaNEk,etc.
2019-12-03 22:31
#92
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Germany AdiZen 
NiKo support?
2019-12-03 23:35
He's played that role for some time. He can provide those flashes and trade frag. He's not the last player but he certainly supports when executing. He mostly lurks though. I think it is map based now in FaZe. Also he can entry when his entry fragger is dead.
2019-12-04 06:26
Never existed and never will.
2019-12-03 22:23
#69
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Germany JoooookER 
are u mentaly challenged?
2019-12-03 22:28
support uplift comfort care
2019-12-03 22:29
#83
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Qatar PrisMcsgo 
its a good role because they throw flashes and very nice people
2019-12-03 22:42
#86
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Ukraine ksay 
krimz worst? lmao
2019-12-03 23:09
#87
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Poland JZFBEAST 
Underrated role
2019-12-03 23:11
true, this role is made up for the worst or least impactful player in the team
2019-12-03 23:20
#102
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Germany AdiZen 
obviously you shouldnt let your best fragger be support...
2019-12-03 23:45
what are you even saying i dont undestand
2019-12-04 00:26
generally lowest fragger is igl, or lurk. Support gets a good number of trade frags, and swaps with entry occasionally depending on what angle is being attacked
2019-12-04 01:25
thats not a specific role
2019-12-04 01:34
it is, really
2019-12-04 13:52
#90
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Poland MapPredictor 
Why mauz were much better with styko? Why Hell reisers became even bigger trash after -bondik -deadfox +hobbit +nukkye(more skill on paper) Its 0/8 bait or actually someone without brain
2019-12-03 23:33
It is a valid excuse for not having insane stats like a 1.2 rating. But playing the support role will never cause you to have a 0.9 rating.
2019-12-03 23:38
literally going 1 for 1 in kills (good for a support player) can give you a sub-1.0 rating
2019-12-04 01:24
sub 1.0 =/= 0.9
2019-12-04 10:26
are you retarded? 0.9 is sub-1.0
2019-12-04 13:54
Lol, someone has to do the dirty work, support players play around other players rather than for themselves, they set their teammates up to get the kills, and whether you like it or not, you can't have a proper functional team with a world class supportive player. If anything, it's probably the most underrated role because retards like you just base someone's impact in a team based on their frags and hltv rating.
2019-12-03 23:41
+1
2019-12-04 01:23
#98
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Denmark Derige 
You do realize that where are only so many potential kills to get each round right? Its literally impossible for all players on a team to get more than 1 kill per round (not counting team kills)
2019-12-03 23:43
#105
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Poland aiken 
The support role takes place especially on T side when someone stays behind during executes just to throw 2 flashes. If there is one or two players who always do that they can be called supports. In other cases it's situational role, because you can't really support anyone if you don't have any more nades.
2019-12-03 23:46
There are 5 players on the team. They all have different skill level. The highest skill level player is the one u set up around. U cant afford him dying first and u have to give him the best spots so he can get u the frags. So the guy with lowest skill basically goes in first and takes worse positions cause u can afford to lose him and he would never produce the same result as the highest skill level guy. Since he goes in first and has bad spots,drops guns and is always flashing for his team u cant be too critical of him but u cant also exuse him for not killing someone from behind cause he is the support. Sometimes bad gameplay is obvious and it doesnt come from the role but its the player's fault,
2019-12-04 00:00
Meh there is generally someone who has to play bitch spots that are gonna make it harder to get kills, flash other players in, anchor bombsites etc
2019-12-04 00:03
#112
FalleN | 
Brazil dmn1 
silver spotted
2019-12-04 00:04
Elige Quote “I don't believe in supportive elements. Anyone can do "support" and I think it's just random talk to put any more emphasis on it. We do whatever roles that we need to and whatever is best for the team from what we have from our players”
2019-12-04 01:37
Yeah, he's talking about Team Liquid. Most teams aren't like that.
2019-12-04 01:57
He’s talking about the role in general
2019-12-04 02:06
Saying that players who play more supportive roles don't exist like you did in #126 is not correct in my opinion. Obviously nobody plays 100% support. On the T side, somebody has to throw the flash grenades and go into the site last. On the CT side somebody has to play worse positions than others. EliGE saying that he doesn't believe in a more supportive player on his teams is fine, Liquid has found amazing success without somebody like TACO, but that does not apply to every team. Of course support players have to frag too, having a 0.9 rating as a support player is still bad, but the role definitely exists.
2019-12-04 03:55
you're a fucking idiot, support is generally second best aimer and the guy with best nade knolwedge, i play support and 2nd/3rd frag mostly, while entry friend top frags most of the time
2019-12-04 01:23
Lmao yea put ur friend entryfragging agaisnt people at decent rank, surely he wont top frag
2019-12-04 01:58
this has nothing to do with overall skill, I'm saying his raw aim is a bit better than mine so he plays entry
2019-12-04 13:53
Because they "waste" their time doing other stuff beside dm, movement etc etc
2019-12-04 13:54
so you're saying that the reason why my friend is better than me at counter strike is because he practices less than me? are you a fucking brainlet?
2019-12-04 13:55
lol
2019-12-04 13:58
"haha i make retarded point and then say lol"
2019-12-04 13:59
+1
2019-12-04 01:36
yes only noobs think this role exists.
2019-12-04 01:55
0/8
2019-12-04 01:57
If you sacrifice your money to buy utility for your team, and give them better chances of fragging an enemy, was is that role called? Yup, support
2019-12-04 01:57
#138
fer | 
Brazil Flacky13 
Coldzera is a support player, Get_Right was a support player, you are just idiot...
2019-12-04 06:29
#145
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Sweden Lagge15 
How would you build a roster around responsibilities and roles?
2019-12-04 10:30
You are really annoying me when you say that xyp9x with a rating of 1.09, you say "He still has the lowest rating" what do you want from him??, like you cant have every single person to have a rating of 1.5 someone needs to have the lowest rating??? but when the lowest rating is good like wtf. you are stupid american
2019-12-04 10:35
Forget about xyp9x and look at other support players... They are terrible..
2019-12-04 22:30
Because being a support means sacrificing your own play so others can shine, that's why supports will always be the worst fraggers along with the IGLs.
2019-12-04 10:36
#151
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Sweden GeT_CoRrEcT 
Every match is not a deathmatch lmao. If you actually see the true depth of a round, you realize that the IGL and the support opens up for entry fraggers and lurkers to complete their jobs.
2019-12-04 10:38
Being support is not an excuse for being bad but it is an excuse for having bad stats. Even though you have the greatest skill in the world, if you play the hard positions, sacrifice yourself for entry, play on b site as an anchor and miss the whole party, you wont have great stats.
2019-12-04 10:42
But the support role players usually still do alright, you'll usually always have the IGL at the bottom of the leader board or somewhere near there obviously that's because their job isnt to get kills it's to get info
2019-12-04 10:46
So, if you are the first to enter a sight so you're star players can trade you, get info were the enemys are, isn't that support type of rolle? Wouldn't that impact your stats? Or is expectable for the first guy to go without any info what so ever to open a sight by himself without dying? You are dumb bruh
2019-12-04 11:33
19:55Defusekids vs PRINCEADIL
Defusekids
1.41
PRINCEADIL
2.81
11:00CR4ZY vs Movistar Riders
CR4ZY
1.45
Movistar Riders
2.68
12:30Tricked vs Gambit Youngsters
Tricked
1.42
Gambit Youngsters
2.79
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