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Bolsonaro supporters and other right-wingers
Other TheVyrox 
Do you ignore Uruguay? It got ruled by leftists (not commies, but progressives, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE) for the last 15 years. Its the most socially left country in South america, yet it was the only country to not really suffer a recession 10 years and ranks first, second or third in south america in: democracy peace low perception of corruption e-government press freedom size of the middle class prosperity absence of terrorism economic freedom income equality per-capita income HDI (aka Life expectancy + Education + Standard of living) GDP growth innovation and finally infrastructure It is furthermore regarded as a high-income country by the UN and nearly 95% of Uruguay's electricity comes from renewable energy, mostly hydroelectric facilities and wind parks. If leftists ruin everything, how come its doing this well?
2019-12-04 17:55
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rightists getting CUCKED by FACTS and LOGIC once again
2019-12-04 17:55
#36
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Europe kiiri 
+1 actually funny comment, quite a rare occurrence in hltv
2019-12-04 18:14
#108
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Brazil JMB_17 
you really find this comment "actually funny" ? it's a dead REDDIT meme from 2018 you're disgusting
2019-12-04 19:57
#138
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Europe kiiri 
am i not allowed to find jokes funny?
2019-12-06 12:29
rightists feelings dont care about your fax
2019-12-04 18:51
exactly. Shen "my judaist conservatism doesnt care about facts" Bapiro
2019-12-04 18:53
only thing seperating him from nazism is the fact hes a jew lol
2019-12-04 18:55
169 iq
2019-12-04 20:00
#2
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Brazil Montanablack 
Because uruguay is small and has not 50million poor people like brazil
2019-12-04 17:56
Good job, you almost made an argument. Keep trying.
2019-12-04 18:00
#11
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Brazil Montanablack 
Socialism doesn't work in poor countries, it makes them poorer
2019-12-04 18:01
Depends on how its implemented, like everything in politics.
2019-12-04 18:03
#22
FalleN | 
Brazil zeraSK 
The whole thread is pointless, seems like brazil is being voting for right wingers since ever, wich their not. They had a left governament for 16 years in a row until 2016. And if you consider the center-left governament b4 (1994-2002) it makes 24 years with left on power, and what they did? stole the country, nothing else
2019-12-04 18:07
Don't waste your time with this idiot. He is purposely acting ignorant and ignoring the obvious issues that leftism caused in brazil. Read #12.
2019-12-04 18:09
#26
2019-12-04 18:11
corrupt, socialist leftists + the overall argument is that leftist politics obviously dont ruin everything by default and work excellently if implemented correctly
2019-12-04 18:09
#32
FalleN | 
Brazil zeraSK 
thats true. But in brazil situtation, they had no other option to show their frustation voting for Bolsonaro, since if not, the same party would win for more 4 years.
2019-12-04 18:13
They could have voted for some progressive green party, or not?
2019-12-04 18:17
#49
FalleN | 
Brazil zeraSK 
South America is more complicated than you think. parties is like football teams they have "supporters" that wont change mind, most people ignorant and dont give a shit about policts, they like a party, they think the others are the devil, and thats it, they will vote forever if they can in the same president. but when a lot of shit happens part of these ignorant uneducated people a long with some deluded middle class voters decide to vote in someone they think might be "the savior" educated people has no other option in the end and add forces with them, to vote on this guy whoever is (if they want to take the current party off power)
2019-12-04 18:24
Fucking irrational cunts.
2019-12-04 18:32
Yes, we could. And a lot of people did, actually. We had a strong candidate here, Ciro Gomes, who were the 3rd most voted. In every prediction Ciro would've won Bolsonaro, when in every prediciton PT (Lula's party) would've lost. And he is progressive, center left, with similar ideas to PT. But PT decided to don't support his candidature, even when Lula was jailed, even knowing that PT x Bolsonaro would elect Bolsonaro. So, PT preferred a right wing government than giving up the power. It's like my boludo friend said, a lot of brazilians don't support Bolsonaro, and didn't supported him by the time of elections, but chose to vote on him 'cause voting on PT was worst.
2019-12-04 18:39
Or maybe because PT is similar to the centrist democratic wing in the US, where they are steered by the same puppeteers because both PT and Bolsonaro are secretly sucking the dicks of the rich and the corporations, so the puppeteers decided that they absolutely have to go against Ciro Gomes just like the democrats are going against Sanders? Its the same in US, Sanders beats Trump but people refuse to see it.
2019-12-04 18:41
Sort of. PT came from the poor, Lula was a worker with a big class consciousness, and PT it's the biggest party here (in terms of supporters), but the most hated too. The first years were great, like Uruguay, we had great social achivements, but corruption scandals and an economy breakdown made the people insatisfaction grow. Bolsonaro is clearly sucking the rich's dick, besides PT sucked it secretly. The bankers grow richer and richer in PTs government. But I think it's kinda different because the main goal for PT is really power, not sucking others dick, but making its dick being sucked. So they are hated by the rightists and the far leftists (who thinks they abandoned real communism and sold their soul to the devil). For example, in last election, when they saw that they could really lose, one of the first proposals were to change the constitution (opening room for a dictatorship). And about Ciro, Ciro was from PT and had some troubles for disagreeing with some stuff, so it's kinda an ego trouble. They think they're representing the left and, if not them, no one will.
2019-12-04 18:54
Finally someone with a brain in this website, holy shit. Thanks. Some people think that it is easy to govern and manage problems in a country the size of a fucking continent like Brazil.
2019-12-04 18:03
Then make it more federalist.
2019-12-04 18:07
#142
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Brazil Zeca_BR 
Dude, just stop talking shit about a country that you have no idea of what is like in real life, take care of your own country and vote to whoever you want, you have no idea of what is really happening here in Brazil, Bolsonaro is making the country grow again and solving so many problems that we had for decades, finishing with idiot bureaucracy, creating millions of new jobs. Corruption and violence is heavily decreasing, don't let the media fool you, talk to real people instead, people who really know what is happening. Everything you will have access from wherever you are is going to be doubtful because all the establishment media inside the country is against Bolsonaro because of all the money he is taking away from them, don't let others fool you, Bolsonaro is being great for my country and he would probably be easily reelected if the election was today.
2019-12-08 23:51
"people who really know what is happening" Let me guess, all the right-wingers that vote Bolsonaro have it all figured out and everyone else is totally deluded and knows nothing.
2019-12-08 23:59
#3
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Peru TheJuan 
Ok.
2019-12-04 17:56
#4
NiKo | 
Serbia Krosis 
ez for Uruguay?
2019-12-04 17:57
ya
2019-12-04 17:58
OK
2019-12-04 17:58
ok
2019-12-04 17:59
Stop comparing right wing in such places with right wing in the western world. The issues they are dealing with are completely different. In the western world the immigration topic is by far the most important topic and the reason why many people consider themselves 'right wing'. A lot of right wing political parties in the western world are in fact social-democratic parties.
2019-12-04 18:00
They are dealing with different issues but the underlying ideology of [ignoring facts, thinking short-term and going by your (religious) feelings] is the same one all over the world.
2019-12-04 18:02
High inflation Rising Debt Stagnating economy So bad country
2019-12-04 18:04
good job cherry picking 3 things when I just clobbered you over the head with like 20 good things.
2019-12-04 18:12
He mentioned 3 most important things though, if you don't fix them the economy will collapse eventually
2019-12-04 18:33
Why did it survive the last 15-20 years that well then? Again, it was the only one that got through the recession ok.
2019-12-04 18:37
I'd have to read about it, but I'm just saying that a country with rising debt, inflation and stagnating economy will collapse eventually + uruguay is smaller than some cities, it's much easier for a country of that size
2019-12-04 18:47
Thank you for showcasing how clueless and biased you are. In fact, the newly religious influence(mainly because of immigrants) on western european societies is something right wingers oppose.
2019-12-04 18:05
Sorry to burst your bubble but religious extremists or religious conservatives are also right-wing.
2019-12-04 18:12
Then how come followers of the most conservative religion in the world(islam) in western societies are only voting for leftist political parties?
2019-12-04 18:13
1. Give me a statistic 2. Because they know that they have an easier time getting into power this way to enforce their version of islamist conservatism. They are right-wing. Have you ever looked at what muslims are like and what western conservatives are like? They are difficult to distinguish. I want you to find me a muslim that has no problem with homosexuals or abortion.
2019-12-04 18:17
If they are right wing, how come the right wing in the entire fucking western world are during everything in their power to keep these muslims out of their countries? Now we are back at my original point. Don't fucking compare a right wing party in your 3rd world country with the right wing parties in progressive western european countries. Ty.
2019-12-04 18:18
If they are right wing, how come the right wing in the entire fucking western world are during everything in their power to keep these muslims out of their countries? Because its only ALMOST the same type of right wing. Christian conservatives hate muslim conservatives and vice versa for the exact same reason. Different religion. Otherwise they are very similar.
2019-12-04 18:45
Western european political right wing parties aren't religious. This is what you don't get. Don't compare us to the rest of the world.
2019-12-04 18:47
Oh yes the right wing ones fucking are religious. Maybe not in fucking scandinavia but certainly in eastern europe, germany, the UK, spain, italy and maybe France as well.
2019-12-04 18:48
Marine Le Pen: "The twice divorced leader of the National Front, France’s far-right nationalist party, has spoken in favor of women’s abortion rights and won gay and lesbian support. She has doubts about Pope Francis, and during the first round of the French election, she criticized her conservative Catholic opponent Francois Fillon for “the opportunistic use of that faith to defend a certain political line.” None of the right wing parties in the countries mentioned are particulary religious. In Germany, Merkel's party is even called CDU; Christian Democratic Union. What right wing parties in western Europe will defend though is the values we live by and the cultural aspect of our societies. Yes, its influenced by Christianity since the European populations have been Christians for centuries, but God in itself is not and will never be used as an argument by right wing parties. The comparison with an extreme ideology such as islam is obviously stupid and wrong. Take a look at Danish People's Party to take an example. Ecomoically its a leftist party, but when it comes to values and immigration its a right wing party. Its just dumb saying right wing parties all over the world are the same when its clearly not. Western and Nordic Europe is not the same as in North America, which again is not the same as in South America or on the eastern hemisphere.
2019-12-04 23:34
Why the fuck are you talking about official religiosity? Of course if a countrys constitution forbids parties to be specifically religious and trying to attack the secularity of the country, then they wont be officially religious. But I was talking since the very beginning about the same dogmatic idiotic and often religious thinking patterns that conservatives ALL OVER THE WORLD employ. And religious people are more likely to be conservative and conservatives are right-wing. I dont know what the fuck you are trying to argue but your argumentation is so useless, its laughable.
2019-12-05 12:57
You're just a deranged leftist kid. I tried to explain to you so even kids would understand but your reading comprehension is in the best case laughable. You're too stupid to realise politics isn't the same all over the world, your cognitive abilities are so low you aren't able to understand simple things even when explained with details. At least we know why you're a 3rd worlder; the education system in your 3rd world country is shit and your parents are likely uneducated, maybe drug abusers, as we all know the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Not in this case whatsoever.
2019-12-05 13:00
When did I say that politics are the same all over the world? Did I not say the exact opposite above? You are the one who cant differentiate between thinking patterns and politics. And THATS concerning.
2019-12-05 13:18
Are you having a short-term memory? It resets every 10 minutes or so? Or are you maybe some kind of bot? A deluded one to be sure. You even called for 'right wingers' (in general) in your headline. Imagine being so biased and unable to think straight, that no matter what anyone says to you your deluded opinion is alreadfy carved in stone. I would advice you to get some help, it can't be healthy.
2019-12-05 13:22
Many right-wingers from all over the world: - Russia - Western europe - Brazil - USA - Oceania - the Arab world - Africa say that leftist politics are terrible, lead to "COMMUNISM!!1!11!!!", are degenerate and so on. Despite the many examples to the contrary, they keep this up. So when I came across all this info about Uruguay, I decided to confront primarily brazilians because it hits close to home and chose to include other right wingers because they might also not know about this and would have to find yet another way to dismiss this evidence. And all of this is the case because the thinking patterns that are apparent in conservatives are very very similar ALL OVER THE WORLD and they transcend cultures and religions because they are more fundamental to our psychology as humans. THATS what you are vastly too incapable to understand. You think I am making some completely different point, when I am not. Your reading comprehension is a joke. Or you arent trying. And frankly, I think I am done with this because I just stated my case once again very clearly and its clearly above your paygrade. Also, where do you think I am from?
2019-12-05 13:29
You're the exact same but only the other way around. Its a waste of timing trying to communicate with far-left extremists like you. The worst thing is that you can't even see how biased you are. I hope you get some help though, and maybe some cognitive training. It would be good for you. Maybe you won't be this angry all the time. Good luck.
2019-12-05 13:34
Oh so now that you have finally understood the difference between what your peanut brain was understanding and what I was saying from the very beginning, you just attack me personally. I think I have seen that somewhere. Anyway, I am not far-left and not left. I am center-left.
2019-12-05 13:43
I came to the conclusion you're a waste of time. You're a typical extremist. You get destroyed with facts, logic and details but you still didn't understand politics isn't the same all over the world, hence why you're still trying to generalise the right wing everywhere. I hope you get help with your delusions ;-)
2019-12-05 13:45
Well now youre just literally repeating yourself and ignoring what I said, so thats that. You did a great job exposing yourself as a pathetic little kid who cant admit not having understood my point for the longest time and then turning around and crying about it. Now I am definitely done with you.
2019-12-05 18:01
I've already concluded you're a lost cause. A deranged leftist extremist with severe reading comprehension difficulties. Anything after that conclusion is solely for me having an extra laugh. Thank you for participating, even though I know you're not acting as a joke deliberately.
2019-12-05 18:14
What homosexuals or abortion have to do with right or left? For me right and left are a political and economic discussion, while homosexuals, abortion, drugs and stuff are a moral talk. The problem is that it's all mixed up, so a communist can't condemn abortion, for example. I know a lot of liberals who supports abortion, lgbt agenda and stuff, but really hate communism and stands for free market. I know in US it's really mixed because of democrats and republicans, but I think it's really weird.
2019-12-04 19:07
Well sure you can differentiate between socially and economically right-wing but most of the time a conservative is also an economic libertarian and vice versa which is why I only differentiate if I have to.
2019-12-04 19:22
Bolsominions and rightwingers are very brainwashed by their fake news media. They just ignore everything that doesnt fit their agenda.
2019-12-04 18:00
nt lula
2019-12-04 18:02
Tbh, everyone is brainwashed by the media. Why Soros, a billionaire, would found left movements?
2019-12-04 19:10
Nt lula
2019-12-05 13:48
I'm not right-wing nor leftist but... look at the size, population and location of Uruguay. Now look at the size, population and location of Brazil. Do you realise anything or are you ignoring the obvious?
2019-12-04 18:04
Its not so obvious, is it? Many western countries have a large population (not as large as brazil but much larger than uruguay) and employ similar politics and they are doing very well so its not a population thing.
2019-12-04 18:05
Did you ignore the "size + location" parts? Are you purposely acting dumb ignoring what any person with the least knowlege of politics and geography would instantly detect? Jesus dude stop being ignorant.
2019-12-04 18:07
Give it to me, I am too tired of you beating around the bush.
2019-12-04 18:11
Give it to you? No! You can't see the most obvious problems in the world and you are asking me to give it to you? I gave 3 tips for you and you ignored everything in 3 different replies. Look it up yourself. You are too fucking dumb to realise why things didn't work. Get a fucking brain.
2019-12-04 18:14
SIze is definitely not a factor, in case you havent heard of canada or australia. Location, they are literally right next to each other. So NO, I dont see the problem. I am a stupid 1st grader who cant count to 10 who is obviously not as smart as the Sunset_at_midnight PHD of economics.
2019-12-04 18:19
Take a look at the incredibly small population of Australia and Canada. Take a look at their location again for fuck's sake dude! Do I have to draw for you? You are still not realising the most obvious shit and this is my 6th comment trying to explain the exact same thing and you still can't see it!?! Look at the fucking map and get together size + location + population. Look at it ADDING it up instead of picking 1 thing and still get it wrong. Holy shit what is your IQ? Negative?
2019-12-04 18:23
Are you also ignoring my #24?
2019-12-04 18:28
Was it super federalist before and it caused all these problems? Are you still looking and trying to realise what I am trying to tell you or are you gonna keep acting dumb?
2019-12-04 18:30
Dont know, it doesnt have that many substates for its size. Also, I dont know if the government was more centralized or whether the legislative tendency was more towards the substates.
2019-12-04 18:36
He's trying to prove that a flawed POV isn't flawed smh comparing a 3.5M pop country with a 210M+
2019-12-04 18:29
Read #20 fam.
2019-12-04 18:33
He looks like the some other guy days ago shittalking Brazil and said that size is not important because of USA being a good example.
2019-12-04 18:39
I never said USA is a good example. I specifically said Canada and Australia because the US is pathetic as well.
2019-12-04 18:43
Thanks for proving my point about you being and idiot. I didnt say you compared it to USA. Get a brain already and go look at a map to try to realise what I am telling you.
2019-12-04 18:45
Bro, I have never talked to someone on hltv that beats around the bush as much as you. Your sentence "said that size is not important because of USA being a good example." is fucking shit grammar and not understandable. Fucking clarify what you mean or kill yourself instead of pussying around everything whilst writing it terribly.
2019-12-04 18:47
There's nothing wrong with what I have said. If you still can't understand what I am saying then you are braindead and you are still not seeing the big things that hinder Brazil. This is the last time I will try to explain it to you so you can realise it yourself: look at the size, population and location of Uruguay. Now look at the size, population and location of Brazil. You can't be THAT fucking dumb to not realise what I am talking about. In my next reply I guess I will have to draw for you and make a 100-line reply so you can put this fucking ant brain of yours to work and understand what I am saying.
2019-12-04 18:52
yup, I guess thats correct
2019-12-04 18:52
Can I type a long reply? I just want to be sure you will read it because I don't like typing long stuff and people just ignoring it.
2019-12-04 19:59
yes you can
2019-12-04 20:00
I am not brazilian but I know the country quite well since Brazil is like my second home. I have tons of friends I know from there and I am there several times a year. 1. Location Brazil is bordering several countries that: are unstable, very poor, have high crime rates, produce and traffick drugs and guns, have jungle militias, illegal immigrants, the borders are inexistent and practically have no monitoring, which makes drug and gun traffick easy for criminals. That's why you see criminals with very powerful guns and even .50 cal rifles and machine guns. Also, it has a port that is the closest (in the continent) to africa and europe, attracting international drug traffick. Added to that, the northeastern region is very poor and has almost no natural resources and no good ways to make money. Brazil is also SUPER easy to emigrate to, which attracts people like africans as Brazil has a large black culture, specially in the northeast. Many africans go to Brazil and survive with crime, many Nigerians. 2. Population It is very hard to manage a country with big population. It is hard to make vast amounts of people to agree on ideas and elect the good politicians. Countries tend to be divided given huge populations. Brazil has 210 million people. That's a fucking MASSIVE population. Given what happened in the history of Brazil you will see why the country is so divided and how the population amount makes a huge difference. The population of Brazil is very, very, very diverse. Many people, despite of the huge problems, are very attracterd to Brazil and many of them move there. For example, there are a lot of scandinavians in the northeast, TONS of germans in the south and more diverse europeans like italians, french, japanese, chinese immigrants in the southeast. Due to their origins and the history they had in the country, they will always differ a lot in political and social opinions. Let's also mention that Brazil has a fucking stupidly retarded number of political parties, which just adds up the divide and confusion. 3. Size Brazil is a ridiculously big country. It is the size of a continent and europe (except for Russia) would fit in Brazil 2 times over! Meaning it has a lot of territory to monitor and manage. It stretches from moderately cold to semi-arid climate. It goes from the 33th parallel south all the way up to the 5th parallel north, above the Equator. That's just how fucking gigantic Brazil is. Most of the population lives near the coast, around 80% of the country, leaving other areas a bit isolated with average cities and towns. Given the remote location they are in, it is hard to manage operations and attract investments and generate jobs. Brazil borders 10 countries, that's all countries in the continent except for Ecuador and Chile. The border is 16,885 kms long. That is ridiculous. You just can't monitor and control all that, including very, very remote places all the time to stop criminal activities. Leaving the country severely in danger. The distances between important cities are very big and building roads is a pain the ass considering the topography of the country. You can drive like 1,500km and still be in the same state as they are just so huge. Managing such gigantic land is an absurd task. That gives you lots of municipalities, which makes the country have a loooot of politicians and consequently, more chances of corruption. Having less things to monitore and manage is obviously easier than a country the size of Brazil. Being a small country bordering other small countries gives you less borders to take care of. Being small, having low population and having a good location make it faaaaaaaaaaar easier for a country to be developed and well administered. That's what I can explain.
2019-12-04 22:57
k
2019-12-04 22:54
Yeah I see my reply was useless, by now. Edit: correcting typos.
2019-12-04 22:56
Nah my "k" was just a joke, but frankly, your entire large comment is not an argument against any of my propositions. Your comment is an argument against the proposition that a country like brazil is governable at all, by anyone or through any system. And thats not really what this thread was about.
2019-12-05 13:22
Can you see now why you can't compare Australia and Canada to Brazil?
2019-12-04 23:16
#136
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Brazil z1d72 
good reading almost everything checkout you cant have beautiful leaves if you got rotten roots
2019-12-05 18:21
#103
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Denmark Notallama 
Sounds like you failed hard in macroeconomics. Stick to subject where you have a clue or two.
2019-12-04 19:25
#15
FalleN | 
Brazil zeraSK 
Well as far as i know, they were with a center/left governament between 1994 to 2002, than with a left governament 2003-2016 more than 20 years, good for Uruguay but for Argentina and Brazil seems not work.
2019-12-04 18:02
#19
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Brazil gauIes 
I do not ignore.. but im not a bolsonaro supporter ^^
2019-12-04 18:05
Ok kid. Now compare the economy of socialist Uruguay to capitalist Taiwan and see which country is more "equal" .
2019-12-04 18:12
Would you say that socialism is linked to economic freedom? Also I am not sure if Taiwan is doing quite as well as uruguay
2019-12-04 18:15
Tell me what is economic freedom for you?
2019-12-04 18:15
#45
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Netherlands Im_gaaayyy 
heritage.org/index/ He's retarded
2019-12-04 18:20
Check the inflation rate in Uruguay. This is insane bro. This country is on the verge of collapsing.
2019-12-04 18:23
#50
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Netherlands Im_gaaayyy 
+1 Switzerland is the best country on earth because of capitalism in it's purest form
2019-12-04 18:24
HAH what a joke.
2019-12-04 18:25
#56
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Netherlands Im_gaaayyy 
Good job, you almost made an argument. Keep trying.
2019-12-04 18:25
Coz its not an argument. My claim is that you can easily run a country like a leftist and shits gonna be absolutely fine.
2019-12-04 18:31
#67
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Netherlands Im_gaaayyy 
Clearly not
2019-12-04 18:33
Clearly you are literally ignoring the thread then. Keep up the bubble.
2019-12-04 18:36
#73
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Netherlands Im_gaaayyy 
Clearly you're ignoring the facts and you don't know what you're talking about.
2019-12-04 18:37
You want the list again?
2019-12-04 18:38
+1
2019-12-04 18:28
what 7%?
2019-12-04 18:25
Relatively minor amounts of regulation, I would guess.
2019-12-04 18:25
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Taiwan en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Uruguay Check it for yourself then since you don't believe what I am telling you.
2019-12-04 18:18
Taiwan is doing alright economically, I never said it didnt. Is it also doing as well in democracy peace low perception of corruption e-government press freedom size of the middle class prosperity absence of terrorism though?
2019-12-04 18:24
Look at #12 and the replies. This guy is fucking braindead. He can't see the 3 most fucking obvious issues anyone with the least knowledge of geography would instantly understand. It seems he just straight up REFUSES to see what's the problem here. I bet this retard is a flat-earther.
2019-12-04 18:25
earf is a cube
2019-12-04 18:39
#38
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Netherlands Im_gaaayyy 
Chile is capitalistic and ranks high on the economic freedom index. Richest country in South America by far. Leftists getting CUCKED by FACTS and LOGIC once again!!!
2019-12-04 18:17
What I am saying is that leftism works just as well, if implemented correctly and leftists definitely dont ruin everything, as many right-wingers think in their peanut brains.
2019-12-04 18:27
#62
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Netherlands Im_gaaayyy 
It clearly doesn't if you look at the difference in wealth between a shithole like Uruguay and a prosperous developed economy like chile
2019-12-04 18:30
But prosperity is high in both countries fam
2019-12-04 18:38
Sorry but Chile is not a developed country, it's still 3rd world. It is close to one.
2019-12-04 18:40
If implemented correctly everything works. Socialism only works if the population is coerced (forced) into complying with the system, basically no freedom.
2019-12-05 14:05
Does a socialist economy have a lot of economic freedom?
2019-12-05 17:59
No
2019-12-06 10:24
UY is a shit country just like Brazil
2019-12-04 18:19
#46
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Netherlands Im_gaaayyy 
UK*
2019-12-04 18:20
#59
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Portugal Antzrede 
Interesting
2019-12-04 18:28
#80
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Brazil FAZE_FALLEN 
CHORA PETRALHAS BOLSONARO 2022 MULA PRESO KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK CRY IS FREE PETRALHAS BOLSONARO 2022 MULA ARRESTED KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
2019-12-04 18:41
#82
KSCERATO | 
Brazil FrBr 
Well, Brazil got ruled by leftists on the last 20 years and now you see how it is. How about that ?
2019-12-04 18:42
Bulgaria was a communist state. My grandma once told me how his colleagues in the factory built themselves 3 tractors from stolen parts from the factory they worked 😎 Free shit ftw 😎
2019-12-04 18:46
#91
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Brazil Bene_Tleilax 
Truth is Brazil has been an extremely interventionist to boderline socialist country throughout its whole republican period.
2019-12-04 18:49
Read the second sentence of my original thread, fam.
2019-12-04 18:51
#105
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Denmark Notallama 
Doesn't matter whether you call it leftist, rightist, communism or conservatism when a country is as corrupt as yours on the top level of officials. When secret deals, including a major one with an energy company, rainforest trading etc. gets to the public ear, you know it's completely rotten at the top establishment, regardless of which political ideology rules.
2019-12-04 19:33
what do you guys mean by "leftist"?
2019-12-04 19:22
all countries suck
2019-12-04 19:27
#106
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Brazil Fkn_ 
bolonaro is ruinning our country, meat and gas becoming expensive, and all he care is to please mr. Trump
2019-12-04 19:28
Not a conservative but playing devil's advocate. For the same reasons Norway or Denmark are Successful. It doesn't work for everyone. Norway and Denmark both have wealthy populations(particularly in the case of Norway), with few national security threats. Uruguay is (presumably, i'm not well versed on its diplomatic relations) surrounded by reasonably friendly nations. It doesn't have national interests over seas to defend, there is minimal need for high defense spending. Norway especially used it's Oil boom extremely well. It invested in it's own welfare programs, and with no need for defense or aerospace spending, it could invest vast swaths of the oil money into itself and its citizens. However, take a country like the US, or Brazil. Both have massive populations, and in the case of Brazil, a massive crime problem. Brazil isn't remarkably stable, and the US Government is very inefficient. Added to that, Brazil's Position as a major power in the region means that, they probably feel the need to up defense spending. The US, Especially needs to keep up a massive military to defend its interests. If the US were to withdraw from NATO, bring home all troops in Europe and Asia, China and Russia would quickly fill the Power Vacuum. South Korea could be invaded, and Japan would be Vulnerable. And overall it would be catastrophic for the "Western world" Seeing as most of Europe is largely reliant on US Military protection. This means, the US has a larger population, lower GDP per capita, poorer population and marginally higher expenses than any of the major "progressive" nations.
2019-12-04 19:55
I didn't even mention the US debt crisis.
2019-12-04 19:59
#117
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Canada dennek 
who tf is bolsonaro sounds like a pasta
2019-12-04 23:16
Uruguay is a giant farm.
2019-12-05 13:20
#125
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Brazil 1930 
after 13 years of leftism: no democracy, populist liar government no peace, streets going wild because of lack of jobs and inflation the highest perception of corruption ever (could be a good thing if you think about it tho) no e-government, highest bureaucracy ever no press freedom, the middle class going poor no prosperity but to Lula's friends and owners of car manufacturers terrorism started happening in a country more than 20 years free from it economic freedom is just a joke here income equality of unemployment .. ... .... and finally infrastructure threw in the garbage
2019-12-05 13:26
Point is that a country can very well be ruled by leftists.
2019-12-08 20:41
#140
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Brazil 1930 
leftism + rightism will both fail the country. there must be a balance.
2019-12-08 23:35
Sure, center-leftism I mean. I obviously dont mean antifa or communism.
2019-12-08 23:38
#127
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Brazil ricabieber 
>Its the most socially left country in South america do you even venezuela mate?
2019-12-05 13:30
heritage.org/index/ranking Search for Uruguay then search for Brazil. yeah, such a letftist country zzzzzzz Search for Chile aswell, the reason why they are the best in SA.
2019-12-08 23:57
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