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[serious] mibr
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Brazil JMB_17 
Only good and civilized takes in this thread, please. Do you think MIBR needs more time with this lineup or they should switch players? I personally thought that MIBR needed to kick LUCAS1 or kNg, but after today's game I am having trouble to reach any conclusions. They played amazing on the comeback in Dust 2, fearless and making plays left and right. Maybe they should wait and change the playstyle to a more creative one.
2019-12-04 23:15
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MIBR i lost my hope so sad now guys
2019-12-04 23:16
#3
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Brazil JMB_17 
wtf this last match gave me hope with this lineup...
2019-12-04 23:18
#29
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Brazil NiceBrazilian 
he's just a fakeflagger, don't mind him.
2019-12-04 23:34
#2
autist | 
Brazil hrp_ 
mibr should disband ASAP
2019-12-04 23:17
#83
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Brazil iny 
+1
2019-12-05 03:47
+1
2019-12-05 03:57
#88
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Brazil bernog 
+1
2019-12-05 04:03
#4
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Australia wise_hltv_user 
I haven't watched them play lately so idk, no criticisms from me
2019-12-04 23:19
#7
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Brazil JMB_17 
they played rly good today imo
2019-12-04 23:22
#28
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Sweden SweSweSweSwe 
Brazil brain do not understand. They did not play well just fnatic usual disrepect. Look at that d2 game, they didnt play serious at all after first half. Acctually think they attentionally played puggy for krimz to break the record and then tried to close it out in the end but fail cause of favela luck double awp shot.
2019-12-04 23:34
#34
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Brazil JMB_17 
dumbest thing i have ever heard shittiest bait i have ever seen gtfo
2019-12-04 23:36
#84
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Brazil luizcm777 
Swedish brain do not understand. They did play well . Look at that d2 game, they played serious at all. They played for the win and then tried to close it out in the end but fail cause of kNg's insane shot and TACO's stunning clutch.
2019-12-05 03:52
mibr need some new talent. Furia are morons for signing that 5 year deal wtf were they thinking tbh. If furia players were open mibr should have been a top 5 team. but those fucking retards thought it was a good idea to gulag themselves
2019-12-04 23:20
+1
2019-12-04 23:34
#33
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Sweden SweSweSweSwe 
Secure good salery for 5 years in a really poor country where you can get kicked at any moment?? GOOD BRAIN MAN, GOOD.
2019-12-04 23:36
lmao now this is retarded. Do you know how much they are getting? Also, they would have 100% gotten a shit ton more if they went to immortals and not done that fake "loyalty" garbage
2019-12-04 23:37
#37
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Sweden SweSweSweSwe 
Prolly not much but enough to put food on the table in a 3rd world country. So I understand them.
2019-12-04 23:38
Yeah they could have been in a far better org, and could probably move their families to the US so they are morons. Imagine if OG had picked them up or some other huge org rather than Furia omegalul
2019-12-04 23:39
#40
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Sweden SweSweSweSwe 
US health care, omegalul.
2019-12-04 23:40
better than Brazilian probably also they would be making enough to afford insurance
2019-12-04 23:41
#44
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Sweden SweSweSweSwe 
For their whole family who would struggle to make a single dollar? When they can live as kings in a 3rd world country. US = Sucky country tbh.
2019-12-04 23:43
ok I am sorry. If they didn't stay with Furia they would have been 10x richer
2019-12-04 23:44
#51
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Sweden SweSweSweSwe 
Correct, I live in 3rd world spain with good swedish salery makes me = rich AF.
2019-12-04 23:46
#48
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Brazil JMB_17 
you're disgusting
2019-12-04 23:44
#52
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Sweden SweSweSweSwe 
Only in bed
2019-12-04 23:46
#95
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Australia I_HATE_MIBR 
i heard that their contract was really bad tbh
2019-12-05 14:05
+1 luckily for mibr there is another talent they can get in meyern
2019-12-04 23:38
sadly not as proven as players like yuuurih and kseracto
2019-12-04 23:38
well yeah obviously but I think it's worth a try, I don't really think the move will fail, everything I've seen and heard of him thus far points to him improving similarly to prodigies like Brollan, Plopski, frozen, etc.
2019-12-04 23:42
yeah he has a lot of potential maybe more than the furia players, but is far less proven thats the gamble, but tbh mibr doesn't have many choices so its the best option
2019-12-04 23:43
#72
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Brazil HaiduHilario 
Greedy FURIA owners ruined both their roster career's and the Brazilian scene as well. Who might know what could happen if they were able to sign KSCERATO at the start of the year instead of felps and cold wouldn't leave. Only butterfly effect anyways...
2019-12-05 00:23
there could have been the old times with Sk and Immortals Top 1 and Top 10
2019-12-05 00:26
#6
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Brazil NahT_ 
should stop changing their roster so often and stay at least 6 months playing and see if they could improve during this time then keep going
2019-12-04 23:21
they are spending too much money to wait 6 months for each lineup to be good
2019-12-04 23:22
#13
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Brazil NahT_ 
true but i can't imagine another solution
2019-12-04 23:25
the other solution is to keep switching players until it works
2019-12-04 23:25
#17
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Brazil JMB_17 
I can't blame them... It worked 3 times in the past and it worked absolutely perfectly.
2019-12-04 23:27
tbh the problem was back then Fallen could get any SA player but now he can't so he has to go to teams like Sharks to find talent. also argentina speaks spanish how tf will they communicate with them
2019-12-04 23:28
#25
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Brazil JMB_17 
we communicate with Portunhol, my friend... a mix of 80% portuguese with a weird accent that kinda sounds like spanish and 20% spanish. Good enough for both sides to understand each other
2019-12-04 23:32
ok now that meyern report makes a lot more sense
2019-12-04 23:33
#58
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Spain Granjero_ 
All speak it?
2019-12-04 23:52
#61
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Brazil JMB_17 
yes. the majority of spanish and portuguese words are very simillar to each other, so we understand it. I can even understand pure spanish if they speak it a little bit slower than usual. it really is a lot like portuguese
2019-12-04 23:54
#62
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Spain Granjero_ 
I'm native Spanish speaker... Flag... But I don't speak portunhol
2019-12-04 23:55
#65
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Brazil JMB_17 
no one really speaks portunhol, its not something we practice everyday. we just adapt our language so others can understand better and costa rica doesnt have much of a connection with brazil, but countries that are close to us have heard a lot of portuguese and they know how they should speak spanish in order for us to understand it
2019-12-05 00:06
#18
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Brazil NahT_ 
oof
2019-12-04 23:28
+1
2019-12-05 21:41
Idk, I really like them, they are my favorite team but I can't pinpoint what's wrong with them.
2019-12-04 23:22
#22
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Brazil JMB_17 
I think that it's two things: 1- TACO and LUCAS1 can't frag (consistently). We can only keep one, imo lucas should go in this case. 2- Our 2 awp set up didn't work as we imagined, kNg is too inconsistent. They even took the awp away from him in our T side. And these two players (Lucas and kng) aren't smart players. Always making dumb decisions when the pressure is on. If you want to start over for 2020, kick them both and hire two smart players, could be Boltz and a young promising star player (like meyern)
2019-12-04 23:31
#86
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Brazil brancowhite 
No... No Boltz... Not anymore. We have seen it happen and no one liked
2019-12-05 03:55
I actually like the idea of letting Lucas go and bringing in Meyern. Kng is someone that infuriates me, he hits some unbelievable shots but misses the most stupid ones, I never thought bringing him was a good idea... plus, he's too arrogant I think
2019-12-05 16:00
#99
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Brazil JMB_17 
I feel the same thing with kng... how can someone be so inconsistent
2019-12-05 16:07
#10
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Sweden Nokkeri 
I think that its something there, they have really started performing better and better. As far as i know meyern is a seconday awper aswell, which definatley isnt needed in MIBR. Lucas isnt the problem ingame, but maybe isnt working outside or the chemistry just isnt there
2019-12-04 23:23
#89
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Brazil brancowhite 
Lucas is quite inconsistent... Taco is carrying the team lately, kNgv is in adapting curve, fer is fer and FalleN is the boss. I think Lucas should go
2019-12-05 04:05
tbh never saw lucas as a good player.. great guy, but.. idk.. maybe he should change his settings HONESTLY why does fnx don't play again in a brazilian team? thats what i dont understand.. is he gonna join cold on faze or what? yes cuz faze will do a rooster move.. which im guessing -olof and and soon he'll go to nip cuz f0rest apparently is going to that "new-team"
2019-12-04 23:24
fnx is playing with a brazilian team and he's not really that good anymore, his time is gone
2019-12-04 23:26
i really dont undestand the "time is gone blablabla" just cuz the player has some age. you know, if you've been growing up gaming, you really won't feel the difference, i would just guess he don't has the motivation to go big again.. and yea.. that brazilian team.. why is he even playing in such low tier
2019-12-04 23:27
#54
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Brazil JMB_17 
when fnx came back to being a pro player this year for RED canadis, he definetely started slowly. but rn everyday he's coming back to his old form, fragging and clutching everyone. idk man he was just born to play this game. he will never be too old for it
2019-12-04 23:48
The thing about fnx is that, if they hire him to MiBR, in the beginning, he is going to play for real and do his best, but after some time if the team win any championship, he is going to lose all his interest and he will not train as much as he can anymore and will end up being kicked as he was many times before. It was always like that, since cs 1.6 teams that he played with. He is one of the best players in the world when he wants to play, but once he loses his motivation, it doesn't work anymore.
2019-12-05 00:07
#20
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Sweden meistr0 
"Do you think MIBR needs more time with this lineup or they should switch players?" Imo no, they dont need more time. They have major problems, one of them being FalleN that got a outdated and dusty strat book and the other being Lucas1 & Taco having unconsistant games (Also kNgV from time to time). They gotta work on their game A LOT, which i hope they do whenever Meyern is joining them. I also hope they do -Taco +Luken, but we will see about that.
2019-12-04 23:29
This "fallen got outdated" thing is bullshit. Do you think fallen dont watch other teams demos to learn and etc? OF course he does. Fallen's not stupid.
2019-12-05 00:30
#78
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Sweden meistr0 
I never said that FalleN got outdated? I said that his STRATS got outdated, which is true, very true. "Do you think fallen dont watch other teams demos to learn and etc? OF course he does." Yes? Obviously he does? Thats part of his job? But teams watch MiBRs VODs as well and can easily read their gameplay, which we can see in tons of games. I never said he was? lol
2019-12-05 00:36
Yeah and if you stop and notice, i was clearly talking about strats too when i said that fallen certainly watch demos. My answer still applies.
2019-12-05 00:38
Answering your question: Yes, fallen watch demos as part of his job. He talks about it on his streams, he even analyze demos on his stream to educate people that are watching about how CS works.
2019-12-05 00:41
People act like Fnatic are scrubs (???), they're improving. For me, fer is playing the worst this past two tournaments, and he's supposed to be the best player. So a roster change would be weird. But if they think a change is required, I would bring back felps, to be honest.
2019-12-04 23:30
What? I agree that fer has not been consistent, but the game against fnatic in the last championship he was the only one that was performing well in the team. And he still the best of the team in my opinion with falleN.
2019-12-05 00:12
Yes, I know, you just said all the obvious things. I'm just saying it would be weird to kick someone that it's not underperforming right now, like Lucas.
2019-12-05 03:41
Lucas it's not consistent as well man... and fer is much better than him even not performing his usual performance. But I still think they should keep this line up for three more months.
2019-12-05 13:59
I never compared lucas to fer, or implied fer could leave the team. I just made a point that they can't be unfair to the others and should give them more time if even the best player can't perform at the moment.
2019-12-05 21:10
MIBR doesnt need KNG. They already have Fallen . Im not sure if kicking taco or lucas1 will solve MIBR problems, so i guess we should give them both time. But KNG is useless(WE HAVE FALLEN!!!!!! Fallen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KNG!!!!!!!!!!!)
2019-12-04 23:31
#24
FalleN | 
Brazil vitosim 
i dont know my friends let god decide he's brazilian and he know what to do
2019-12-04 23:32
In my opinion, They should sign meyern and some young AWPer.
2019-12-04 23:35
#59
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Brazil JMB_17 
i dont think they should try this double awp thing anymore. fallen is good enough
2019-12-04 23:52
Maybe you are right. But I think meyern would be a great upgrade, but for who - TACO or LUCAS1
2019-12-04 23:56
#64
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Brazil JMB_17 
between these two, I would 100% stay with TACO on the team. lucas1 is expected to frag in certain maps and positions, but he's too inconsistent for that. While taco plays the hardest positions on every map and still sometimes outfrag his teammates
2019-12-05 00:02
#31
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Brazil Maujubudo 
D I D N ' T B A N A N D L O S T I N F E R N O
2019-12-04 23:35
#32
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Brazil NiceBrazilian 
After this game, i really don't know, as #24 said, let's God decide
2019-12-04 23:35
#42
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Brazil 1_Flippy 
MIBR is one of the most difficult conundrums to solve, since coldzera left they lost their consistency fortress and now they lack firepower and braincells, TACO is expected to perform bad due to his role, but kNg and LUCAS1 have been massive drawbacks for the team, they are not only whiffing hard but also comitting terrible early round and mid round decisions, there is no way that this team is ever going to work and frankly i don't think FalleN is the problem, even if he was, there would be no one to fill his role so whatever... best solution would be to get rid of kNg and LUCAS1 and bring both Luken and Meyern, since FURIA players are locked.
2019-12-04 23:42
#49
Europe Dov 
For me whenever I see taco perform it's because the rest of the team doesn't
2019-12-04 23:44
#60
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Brazil 1_Flippy 
Correct. thats usually what happens when the enemy team avoid anchors, and since TACO is an anchor in most bombsites, if his teammates are not able to do the duty he will be left to gather the scraps and pad his stats
2019-12-04 23:52
#55
xsepower | 
Russia zj2 
+12345 I agree with everything youve said
2019-12-04 23:50
Lol, just posted almost the same thing, i really thing luken and meyern should have a opportunity
2019-12-04 23:51
DISBAND
2019-12-04 23:43
Despite me beeing arg, i think replacing TACO and LUCAS1 with Meyern and Luken could work and give Mibr more consistency. Luken has being really consistent lately with his frags and Meyern with more experience also can be a great asset to the team.
2019-12-04 23:45
#53
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Spain Granjero_ 
I feel like Lucas1 doesn't have the right playstyle for a fallen managed Team. His aim is great but he's too wild, playing too aggressive maybe. I personally would love to see Luken and Meyern in Mibr and then let them grind for some months. Don't forget they wouldn't rly kick Lucas because he's only on loan. Still would feel bad for him. -Lucas1 - Taco/Kng + Meyern + Luken After all it might also be time for fallen to step down.
2019-12-04 23:48
-lucas but not kng
2019-12-04 23:51
I think it's deeper than just taco/lucas/kng. Fer and fallen aren't great anymore.. Fallen is too busy focusing on his business and fer is a disaster. These guys are outdated and everyone that come into the team will be blamed by the poor performance, just because it's them that will have to prove it that they deserve to be in the team. People now are asking again for felps, boltz, etc., doing the same over and over again. Cold decided to leave and that should tell you something about core issues. I just don't see any bright future with fer and fallen in a team, and I don't think furia boys should be picked by them either.
2019-12-05 00:07
#69
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Brazil edimar_cabral 
Like last year, this line need time to reatch theyre pottential, but they wont do that
2019-12-05 00:16
#70
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Portugal dascouves 
People calling out LUCAS1 and TACO are probably forgetting how bad Fallen and Fer are nowadays. The only one who can actually be insane in the future in that team is Kng, but their playstyle doesn't fit him, and he's trying too hard to get kills, causing him to give up advantage situations, and put his team numbers down without it being necessary. Mibr is really in a deep hole, and the whole team needs a revamp, kicking the same players everytime, and not changing the core (fallen, fer, taco) won't fix anything.
2019-12-05 00:18
They are a shit stubborn team that play with way too much ego. They don't put in the time to actually get better TOGETHER. They have enough individual skill to easily be top 3 (many teams do) but they don't focus on teamwork. Their tsides are too loose and they are always way too spaced out to trade frags properly or get info. Most of their wins come off big individual performances or clutch rounds... They rarely win as a team..
2019-12-05 00:19
#91
FalleN | 
Brazil dor1a 
+1
2019-12-05 04:30
#74
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Portugal DeviphZ 
LUCAS1 most overrated brazilian player, kng should be main awp and kick fallen instead, team would be 3x better
2019-12-05 00:27
It's too difficult to point what is the real problem, I think they should keep the team for more three months and see the result. I don't think there's any other IGL in Brazil that can replace fallen well... and yes I agree that Fallen and fer are not the same anymore, they are still great, but they are not consistent anymore. But I still think the solution may be is to kick lucas and kNg and try to bring meyern and luken. Or they could keep kNg and give him one more chance and try to bring chelo from INTZ. They have the option to kick Taco as well and bring ABLEJ which used to be the solo bomb during his time with Furia, and used to play really well there. (I don't know why they kicked him lol). If any of these options don't work anymore, they should disband, put maybe fallen as coach with fer+4 in-game and kick everyone else.
2019-12-05 00:31
i like lucas1 but i think it will be better to mibr if they kick him. Kng is a good player but idk, he is not fitting the pro scene, some plays he make seems like he thinks he still playing against br tier 5 teams (not joking) I dont know who would fit mibr, i hope Meyern do good because i love this team.
2019-12-05 00:34
Sucks that fallen ruined both boltz and felps' careers and will likely never play with them again because either one of them would be an upgrade over any one of LUCAS1, TACO, and kNg. I have no idea what the point of keeping kNg is if fallen is doing the main awping? I'd love to see felps get one more chance to prove himself in this lineup. Fallen keeps signing players and then putting them into roles they are unfamiliar with and then wonders why these players are struggling. Put felps in his preferred role for once and he'll thrive. Kick TACO for literally anybody and it will be an upgrade, maybe also replace LUCAS and kNg or give em another chance. Or better yet do something with that 1million dollars you got by selling cold hurry up and get KSCERATO and yuriih, sell felps to furia so fallen cant ruin his career more than he already has and sell TACO to furia too, there both teams fixed.
2019-12-05 01:05
get rid of fallen the paycheque stealer. guy probably practices like 1h a day
2019-12-05 03:53
#92
FalleN | 
Brazil dor1a 
he takes training and leadership very serious tbh.. the main reason why they're thinking about kicking lucas1 is bc he parties a lot and shows up late to practice and some other stuff that shows lack of seriousness with the team. Everyone can see that MIBR is facing some deep troubles, but he's trying really hard to overcome these difficulties and improve his own gameplay. You'd know that if you actually keep up with his social medias, interviews, news, etc.
2019-12-05 04:47
MIBR is a sinking ship, and it would be dumb of meyern to join them, even tho it would make him bring in a lot more money to begin with.
2019-12-05 04:18
#94
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Israel FRIsaac 
I'm a very very big fan of them, and I think they should disband, only good for the players
2019-12-05 14:02
do u remember how VP fell into the ass hole? MiBR doing the same rn.
2019-12-05 14:05
They need time. They look like they're having too much pressure. Feels like they're having trouble in closing easy rounds and doing revenge kills and playing together. And of course, stop getting the "frag movie" problem, kng/lucas gets 2/3 kills in a row and they start only going forward and dont give a shit about maybe throwing the round. I think they need some wins against top tier teams and they will probably get better.
2019-12-05 14:16
kngv just bad and it was already obvious in intz but he still got picked, same for lucas
2019-12-05 21:22
-lucas1 +meyern -taco +luken I honestly think this is the most realistic MIBR fix. Stop thinking about Furia players, that wont happen in the short time
2019-12-05 16:29
But meyern speaks spanish and 4 brazilians portuguese
2019-12-05 21:21
#101
ZywOo | 
South America ZyvvOo 
i think they need time
2019-12-05 18:30
F for mibr and F for meyern who will be kicked in 3 month collecting all the hate and blames (hate would be even havier cos he s argentinian) P.S.: no fnx - no wons, I hope fers gf worth it lol
2019-12-05 21:24
#107
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North America davidbowie22 
I believe kng has became a father of recent time so get rid of him and lucas1 has been mediocer Taco should stay due to him being a good b anchor and is willing to sacrafice himself for the team Fer should stay aswell due to his natural aim hes a beast but hes been kinda quite Falle should stay idc any br igls that are netter than him They should add luken the guys proven he can play alright on lan And they should maybe add meyern he hasnt proven himself on lan yet he played mediocrly in ecs
2019-12-05 21:46
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