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Turkey sonbafrali 
Is his ban permanent?
2019-12-05 13:48
Topics are hidden when running Sport mode.
Did I miss something?
2019-12-05 13:50
Japan Onee_chan 
No idea
2019-12-05 13:50
he didnt get signed by OG because they found his old steam account when he was 12 or something that was banned for cheating so he wouldnt be able to play majors because of it.
2019-12-05 13:51
But he isn't officially banned by Valve yet
2019-12-05 13:52
it became official when he was banned as a 12-year old :) no need to announce everything by valve lol. rules the rules. if you are banned you cant compete in valve sponsored events
2019-12-05 13:54
Valve did announce it for the Brazilian guy that got vacced at the age of 13
2019-12-05 13:55
maybe if it comes to that point where he qualifies for their event or something, but not needed yet for jamppi as he probably wont get to that point now :)
2019-12-05 13:58
Well he would have gotten to that point if it wasn't for that account. We know that he didn't get picked up because of it but we don't know if he is actually banned from majors which is ridiculous. Valve should just start an investigation and make a final call in my opinion
2019-12-05 14:00
they probably did, that's why he wasnt signed imo. they probably just did it privately, players or orgs. who cares, he didnt get signed :)
2019-12-05 14:09
Then why did Valve announce it publicly for everyone else but him? Doesn't make any sense to me
2019-12-05 14:11
2019-12-05 14:13
You just said that they probably did launch an investigation but if they did then why not announce it publicly like for everyone else?
2019-12-05 14:14
I said probably OG heard the rumors and asked valve and valve confirmed it to THEM. Absolutely no need to announce something like that publicly. You know how many players get this point he is not relevant in csgo scene, same as some arabian guy getting banned or some kid. Sounds funny but it is that way
2019-12-05 14:16
But he literally is relevant to the scene because he was a candidate for a team that would easily reach the major. What if another team wanted to pick him up? Do they have to ask Valve secretly then? I'll ask you again: Why not announce it publicly when you have announced it publicly for EVERY OTHER PRO?
2019-12-05 14:18
Its exactly what I said. Every other player was PRO. Jamppi is irrelevant. He is not, and WHO KNOWS if he would ever be even if he got signed. Maybe they would lose every match to some tier12 Kazakh team, so would stay irrelevant. Noone needs to ask anyone, they can sign him if they believe that his cat got the ban and not him, but if he ever qualifies they would definitely announce it then if its true.
2019-12-05 14:20
Okay that's just stupid
2019-12-05 14:21
no it actually makes sense. the fact that YOU think he is good or WOULD be good doesnt mean anything
2019-12-05 14:22
a) As I said, they announced it for everyone else publicly, even a brazilian nonamer who was way lesser known than Jamppi b) It's not just me, it's the whole scene that thinks that c) IF they had already launched an investigation which is what you are suggesting, then what is the harm in announcing the ban publicly? It only brings benefits as it clears up the unknown
2019-12-05 14:25
im pretty sure he knows it himself. maybe he didnt want to join cuz he knows it.
2019-12-05 14:27
So what is it now? Did Valve investigate it or does he "know it himself"?
2019-12-05 14:28
dude you are probably 10. stop replying to me. he didnt get signed, you dont have hands. so neither of you will ever be on the pro scene. those are the facts that are important here
2019-12-05 14:29
I wanted to have a discussion but instead you wasted my time, thanks
2019-12-05 14:30
you must be fun at parties
2019-12-05 14:31
you must not be invited to alot of parties
2019-12-05 15:11
nt jamppi cheater
2019-12-07 01:44
You're actually the childish one here. Just dont understand how the world works and your arguments make as much sense as 10 yr olds.
2019-12-08 11:01
I dont need arguments at all. fact is he cheated and got banned and he didnt get signed because of it. What would've been if it happened or not happened...guess we will never know. thats also fact
2019-12-08 15:21
You sound really fucking salty about it but I dont really get why, no one was even arguing with you. That guy literally asked why would Valve not publicly say whether he is banned or not, when they apparently have done so for every other similar case - even if the player was not even nearly as "known" as Jamppi. I think regardless of what they decide, they should be straightforward and open about it.
2019-12-08 17:14
well dude asked ME why VALVE didnt do it. I told him why I THINK they didnt. Very s1mple
2019-12-09 03:33
He is a pro tho. Playing LAN events and whatnot. Actually he is a super relevant prospect.
2019-12-08 10:58
I agree but not relevant to valve
2019-12-08 15:20
He's a potential player for their tournaments so he should be. Played last minor qualifiers too.
2019-12-08 17:07
Im potential player for their tournaments too. Everyone that plays theoretically is.
2019-12-09 03:29
Valve will not go out of their way unless there's a literal public outrage and even then it isn't guranteed. Doubt they even know he exists.
2019-12-06 12:50
exactly my point
2019-12-07 01:43
F for my boy v$m
2019-12-07 14:33
he didnt get banned, he sold the account and someone else got banned. OG just doesnt want to take a risk with him.
2019-12-05 14:13
sure, sounds like something every cheater would say lol
2019-12-05 14:14
exactly, either that or his younger brother or a cat did it.
2019-12-05 14:17
hahaha they got family ban
2019-12-05 14:18
NiKo | 
Croatia mimi031 
Its like the worst excuse u can come up with
2019-12-05 14:16
Even if that was true he broke the ToS by selling an account. You're not allowed to do so.
2019-12-06 12:42
Lithuania arres 
Fuck you and fuck tos
2019-12-06 12:53
So edgy
2019-12-08 18:09
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
does it also count for 1.6 ban?
2019-12-05 14:31
no. 1.6 is other game
2019-12-05 14:33
Finland Wetzzkuu 
Jamppi got the ban in source
2019-12-08 09:01
I doubt thats true. Otherwise it wouldnt have mattered cuz its other game.
2019-12-08 15:20
Total BS, you shouldn't be punished for life for someone you do as a 12yr old.
2019-12-05 15:12
ofc you do. once a cheater always a cheater. it means he wasnt raised well, so he cant differ right from wrong. otherwise he wouldnt do it especially in something so unimportant as a computer game.
2019-12-05 15:23
So you're saying a 9 year old that steals from a candy store will always be a thief? The fuck are you on? How do you know he wasn't just curious? Or he wanted to do hvh with a friend, got vaced by accident? How do you know he hasn't changed since then? You cannot judge someone's character based on their pre-teen and teen years. Best example is Otto Von Bismarcks entire life. (He was a total dickhead for most of his early life, turned into one of the best diplomats the world has ever seen) I don't know about you, but I was a fucking moron when I was 12. I thought I knew everything, I thought I was the next best thing. I've tried my best to drop that superiority complex, hopefully i'm not such an ass. Jampii could be a total asshole, I have no idea. But he shouldn't be permanently banned from a game he is clearly dedicated to for something he did when so young.
2019-12-05 15:45
Sweden Techyo 
2019-12-06 10:50
2019-12-06 11:16
+1 don't listen to germens) they think everyone cheats cuz their scene is full of cheaters
2019-12-06 12:51
no he is just retarded as fuck
2019-12-06 13:19
+1 holy shit
2019-12-08 11:02
Finland Fireworker 
Theres 0 proof that Jamppi even cheated. He claims he sold the account and someone else then cheated on it.
2019-12-06 10:50
yes, he was in school and his dog sold account to cheater and ...unluko :(
2019-12-07 01:44
Finland Fireworker 
Do you want s1mple, n0thing and half the scene to get banned? "Once a cheater always a cheater" doesn't hold up when so many current pro's have tried cheats in the past.
2019-12-07 08:12
all I see is words. show me some proof. and yes, if that's the case, I stand behind my words. once a cheater always a cheater
2019-12-07 13:21
Finland Fireworker 
Holy shit dude, just google "s1mple esea ban"
2019-12-07 20:05
What was your question again? My opinion is always that if you are proved banned for cheating you should stay banned. Thats it. If they gave him 2 years instead of life, you should ask THEM why. Dont see your point.
2019-12-08 03:04
Finland Fireworker 
So you think cheaters should be banned forever but don't have a problem with s1mple not being banned?
2019-12-08 08:41
Finland petemeister 
I agree that young age is not an excuse, but this whole "once a cheater, always a cheater" sentiment is bullshit. People do change.
2019-12-06 12:45
Agree, it's not just an excuse, it's actually a fact. Thats why there's minimum age of criminal liability set in the law.
2019-12-08 11:24
Lithuania arres 
You dumb men
2019-12-06 12:54
bro really every retarded post in this topic is written by you, what is wrong with you?
2019-12-06 13:18
Dunno about his other posts but this one seem decent. What's wrong with what he wrote?
2019-12-06 16:02
Finland Fireworker 
This Nicky guy doesn't seem to realize that the brain of a 12 year old hasn't fully developed yet, and hence they shouldn't be held to the same standard as adults when it comes to punishments for alleged cheating
2019-12-07 08:15
well, depends how you look at it... if you read it carefully, and you are not stupid, which I hope, then there is nothing wrong with my posts. they are very simple to read and very clear
2019-12-07 01:46
ya I read 1.6 it´s fine to cheat because other game and I other answer you saying a cheater will be always a cheater you have just a big double moral standards and you should just watch things from two or more perspectives brother
2019-12-07 14:28
I think you should learn to read first "brother". I said if you get banned in 1.6 you are not banned in csgo so rest of your post doesnt make sense at all
2019-12-07 14:57
no you did not brother, still double moral standards because you still saying cheating in 1.6 was okay but in csgo it´s not. If a player was cheating time ago when he was 12 and not playing prof. back than you should not be permanent banned makes no sense for me because like #80 already said. And valve have to annouce something because it is still not sure if he was cheating or someone else but people like you are just to retarded to believe.
2019-12-07 15:39
I never said cheating in 1.6 is okay and in csgo is not. stopped reading there
2019-12-07 15:42
you are just retarded
2019-12-07 15:44
I think you should learn to read before you get into conversations
2019-12-07 15:44
dude who is saying he is not reading the complett answer, every new answer you showing that you are retarded xD
2019-12-07 15:47
complett rofl well no point in discussing with you when I see that you lied in your first sentence. how can we talk further
2019-12-07 15:47
lol was talking that you have a big doppel moral standards because you saying 1.6 cheating not care/ or is fine because it is other game but saying too cheater is cheater. Just biggest doppel moral every. And that makes you to big retard
2019-12-07 15:52
no again you cant read and you lie. he asked me if the ban from 1.6 applies to csgo and I answered with NO. I never said that its ok or that I dont care. I said once a cheater always a cheater. And that, my friend, proves again that you are just liar and trying to be smart which you obviously are not.
2019-12-07 15:53
holy shit I am out you are the reason why all europe hate us germans xD
2019-12-07 15:57
Im not even German. And yes, everyone hates you cuz you are retarded
2019-12-08 02:46
nt merkel
2019-12-08 14:23
Finland Wetzzkuu 
It hink niccyy is also 12 seems that his brain isnt developed yet xd
2019-12-08 09:02
You just got debunked in the first reply you got. "otherwise he wouldnt do it especially in something so unimportant as a computer game." But this logic is just amazing, care to elaborate? xD I think everyone that isn't "stupid" realizes this works pretty much the other way around.
2019-12-08 11:28
Lmfao what fucking trash argument.
2019-12-08 08:44
Do you know the age of criminal liability in germany for example, and do you have any idea why it actually exists? Pretty much nowhere you're criminally responsible at the age of 12. You get away with pretty much everything. Why the fuck would you be punished from cheating in video games when you get away with actually assaulting someone rofl.
2019-12-08 11:15
2019-12-08 11:17
Serbia luc1ferms 
once cheater always cheater.
2019-12-09 14:14
That's funny because you're a Navi fan and S1mple cheated
2019-12-09 15:07
Europe jvesper 
they didnt find it some jelly fake friend probably reported it, how sad must be your life to do that
2019-12-05 15:09
well he has only himself to blame. once a cheater always a cheater
2019-12-05 15:10
Europe jvesper 
jw also cheated doesnt matter really
2019-12-05 15:20
prove it or...
2019-12-07 01:42
Europe jvesper 
2019-12-07 14:33
wow thats official proof ? hahaha go to sleep kid
2019-12-07 14:57
Finland Fireworker 
So is s1mple a cheater in your opinion?
2019-12-06 10:51
did he ever get caught ?
2019-12-07 01:42
Finland Fireworker 
Yep, he got banned in ESEA.
2019-12-07 08:10
dont think so, because he is obviously playing in ESEA events, so you must be wrong
2019-12-07 13:20
Europe jvesper 
esea ban expired and he got unbanned so you think s1mple is a cheater?
2019-12-07 14:33
He got banned for what? Find me that news, I want to see it. I got banned on faceit for being toxic too, doesnt mean I cheated
2019-12-07 14:58
Once a toxic shitkid, always a toxic shitkid. Should always stay banned. Thing is, multiple pros actually have 1.6 vac bans in record. No one just cares about them anymore since valve doesn't. Do they still cheat? Ofc not.
2019-12-08 11:32
Toxic is not cheating to gain advantage over an opponent but nt jamppi ;)
2019-12-08 15:25
Imo being toxic is even worse so hf with your life toxic kid.
2019-12-08 17:08
"imo" is kinda very unimportant since you are nobody. have fun nobody
2019-12-09 03:30
And you are not "nobody"? Hahaha rofl you're so dummy
2019-12-09 13:42
The Ukrainian prodigy infamously had a ban, but not from VAC. Rather, his came from ESL rofl...ESL was always a joke. Why wasnt he VAC banned then? And nobody actually knows why and what did he do, he was just "ESL banned".
2019-12-10 03:54
No, ESL Wire caught him cheating, after which he got an extension for ban evasion. If you had properly read what I linked you would not say that. And yes, Valve hands out a VAC ban when VAC detects a cheater, which was not the case here. Doesn't change the fact s1mple is still a dirty cheater, because once a cheater, always a cheater... right? Obviously that is not how the world works. When do you expect personal development to happen, if not in your (pre)teens and early 20s? S1mple went from a talented but cheating toxic cunt to being one of the best in the game and a respected member of the community. Sure, a line has to be drawn somewhere, but if a person shows remorse for something they did in their teens, their position should be re-evaluated.
2019-12-10 07:16
ESL wire is shit and ESL are shit
2019-12-10 08:10 Literally everyone who isnt a massive newfag knows this.
2019-12-08 08:47
im not and I dont know it, so it cant be correct
2019-12-09 03:32
2019-12-09 08:35
I think this guy is the best baiter of all time because he just gets everybody mad then doesn't respond when there is an actually good argument formed against him lmao
2019-12-06 11:18
what argument? you cant argue that once a cheater always a cheater and if you get caught you pay for it. simple as that.
2019-12-07 01:43
He was 12 at the time come on valve, I do t wanna know what you guys did at the age of 12
2019-12-05 13:52
not cheat in video games
2019-12-05 13:56
But maybe you killed your sister
2019-12-05 14:01
2019-12-05 15:08
i am | 
Turkey kwhrajex 
i was busy cursing to cheaters now im happy
2019-12-05 14:05
12 years old or 20. Cheaters ruin our games, they enjoy that time making casuals like us lose our games, they deserve it. No sympathy for cheaters.
2019-12-05 15:14
Europe Lounatus 
There has been talks about Jamppi's old account. The account has a Vac ban on there. Dekay on twitter said something about valve confirming about the ban but we don't know if he's allowed to play. Jamppi says that the account wasn't used by him when the ban came.
2019-12-05 13:53
Brazil iny 
his ban is permanent
2019-12-05 13:50
Italy Jureg 
2019-12-05 13:51
Turkey sonbafrali 
then he should go to collage or something. not too late. he is young.
2019-12-05 13:51
source ? as far as i know valve havent investigated him yet. its all just speculation.
2019-12-05 13:52
aleksib said in ilta sanomat that they couldnt get him because he had problems probably referring to vac
2019-12-05 13:57
well that doesnt mean shit really. maybe OG just didnt want to take the chance that valve would ban him when/if they reach minors. doesnt mean its confirmed permaban.
2019-12-05 13:58
Finland J3bediah 
Why they just didn’t ask from valve if he is banned or not?
2019-12-05 14:09
NiKo | 
Croatia mimi031 
U think big org like OG wouldnt check all that? They checked, they dont have to say anything in public.
2019-12-05 14:18
Its funny how people keep telling OG is big org when they literally had 2 weeks ago only team in dota, and even their dota2 team is relatively new compared to any othet relevant org, hell, even gamerlegion is bigger in terms of teams.
2019-12-06 10:45
NiKo | 
Croatia mimi031 
Yea but they have more money than most of orgs. So that makes them a big org.
2019-12-06 12:37
Money=big org, k. How many people do they employ btw?
2019-12-06 15:55
NiKo | 
Croatia mimi031 
Well not as much as G2 liquid or EG, im sure. But if org comes and just like that buys players makes team,im pretty sure its big org or that its on its way. Cuz no org starts by buying teams just like that.
2019-12-06 16:01
Latvia latvianguy 
Because Valve said that they will investigate once he gets to a minor.
2019-12-05 14:32
Finland J3bediah 
No they didnt. Source?
2019-12-06 11:09
Latvia latvianguy 
Yes, they did? Use internet, I saw it on reddit, the guy who does leaks and shit was talking about it on stream, forgot his name, but everyone knows him.
2019-12-06 14:00
Finland autisti22 
they did
2019-12-08 03:06
2019-12-05 13:50
his ban isn't confirmed right? just linked to it
2019-12-05 13:50
Yeah that's what I've understood from all the articles on it. It's not confirmed that he was using that account when it got vac banned. Supposedly he sold the account and then it got vac'd.
2019-12-05 13:52
Finland Autisthicc 
selling your account breaks steam rules, ez ban.
2019-12-05 14:13
NiKo | 
Croatia mimi031 
Every cheater would said that
2019-12-05 14:19
2019-12-05 14:55
he should get a chance
2019-12-05 13:53
Valve gonna tell us before or after he gets to minor?
2019-12-05 13:53
He got banned on his old account, like bro maybe it wasnt him cheating on there cuz account got sold i think, and even if he was chitink, he was like 12, never would think about becoming a pro. Hes banned from Valve sponsored events. That shouldnt be fair.
2019-12-05 13:54
is cheating fair?
2019-12-05 13:59
what kind of question was that? ofc not, But for him to be removed from all valve sponsored events bcz of that, i mean forsaken was intentionally cheating to earn money at lan. And i say again Jammpi was 12 years old at that time. prolly mm cheatink. ffs defend your homeboy. XD im kidding, but he deserves to play just check his computer twice
2019-12-05 14:03
Finland J3bediah 
Yeah and forsaken didn’t even get a permanent ban what a joke
2019-12-05 14:11
he did get perma ban bro no worries that was fake news you heard
2019-12-05 14:26
in indian scene maybe
2019-12-05 15:08
He did, shortly after he got the 5-year ban, he got a VAC ban on his account. Source: First name in the list because he's the most recent one.
2019-12-05 15:15
Finland J3bediah 
Alright thanks for updating me
2019-12-06 10:10
Finland Autisthicc 
it is fair, you cheat = you dont play. easy rules
2019-12-05 14:11
i mean yeah you are right, im just overfeeling for jamppi. gimme one slap real quick, reality check 1..2..3
2019-12-05 14:31
Finland Autisthicc 
2019-12-05 14:31
ty...fucking cheaters everywhere, makes me sad
2019-12-05 14:32
Lifetime bans are pretty uncommon in any other sport.
2019-12-08 08:50
valve rekt this retard. go work at mcdonalds, kid.
2019-12-05 14:01
Poland mtumee 
fuck Valve
2019-12-05 14:03
Finland Autisthicc 
lol it's pretty funny, he torpedoed his future career at the age of 12. oh well time to hang up the mouse and go to burger mäkdonland working!
2019-12-05 14:11
Aleksib | 
Finland tonyi 
It's all rumors. And supposedly 1.6 ban
2019-12-05 14:20
Finland neksu 
1.6 bans and source bans doesnt matter at all :D
2019-12-05 15:25
0 iq spotted
2019-12-06 10:22
Finland AleksibILoveU 
he is under investigation jamppi himself didnt cheat, he sold the acc and the buyer cheated on it
2019-12-05 14:21
If that was the case, it would have been solved months ago. Maybe stop believing shit like that and spreading it around. jamppi will never play on a pro level since no decent team wants him because HIS vac ban.
2019-12-06 10:23
nt but valve said when they published this investigation that this isnt in their priority number one and it has only been like 2 weeks, in this case moz who also got vac banned he just got 2 months of competition bans and thats it. 0iq comment must be buthurted from something. and to add s1mple got caught of cheating too, and he still plays majors
2019-12-06 21:10
Latvia latvianguy 
Valve has said that they will investigate wheter he got the ban, or the guy he sold the account to, once Jamppi reaches a minor, or any other valve event like major, or major quals.
2019-12-05 14:33
Such delicious justice. This is exactly what a cheating piece of shit deserves.
2019-12-05 15:24
Russia mmmmmmajestic 
2019-12-06 10:48
Norway Shen_Lee 
ERROR: jamppi.exe not found
2019-12-06 11:11
Magisk | 
Europe s1xX 
Certain things like bans and hacks or racism are instant career-enders, any person with the mindset set out to become a pro should realize that and refrain from taking risks at all, regardless of their age.
2019-12-06 11:13
when you are 12 and playing a random online game for fun with friends you dont set out to become a pro. he wasnt even allowed to have a steam account at that age(13+!) and neither was he allowed to buy csgo(i think its age restriction is around 15-16 in most eu countries and its 16 in finland). Im not saying you shouldnt take responsability for your actions, but he clearly wasnt at an age where he should take responsability for his future carreer he doesnt even know about or even fathoms yet. I for myself believe that anyone under 16 just doesnt have the moral capabillities yet to make clear determination that using a cheat in a game against other people is scum behaviour, its just not a thought process that appears to most. it depends on upbringing etc. ofcourse, but games like cs and especially people that grind these kind of games and get really good at them, almost always have some sort of mental baggage. There is a reason a 12 year old sits infront of his computer all day and plays cs and especially if he gets so far to cheat in that game. It means people outside the game are not there for him, that there is some sort or parental failure going on. And him having to cheat because he doesnt feel like he can compete in the one thing that he loves doing can very easily make a nice kid into a cheater. just to get recognized and have a chance to compete. Back in 1.6 every kid cheated at some point, lets be honest here. i dont know more then 2-3 people that had never actually cheated in 1.6, even if it was just for fun. And alot of these people are pros in csgo now. i understand you have to draw the line somewhere, and for valve its the seperation of games. 1.6/source/go the bans dont connect and someone banned in 1.6 can play a major. how does that align with the "once a cheater, always a cheater" statement? so bcs someone cheated in 1.6 and got banned he is eligble to play in csgo, even if he cheated in a 1.6 cup for money last week(there are still some taking place in 2019!!) he could go to the major the next no problem. but a kid that made a bad decision at 12 to get some attention or feel better about himself is barred forever until a new cs game gets released(possibly never?). i dont think thats fair and is just bs. i think there should be a rule that if you didnt get vac banned the last 5 years, you can compete again everywhere. also if your are under 16 when the ban happens, i think it should be discarded completely. same with racist remarks btw. idgaf what someone says when they are 14, it doesnt matter at all. just my opinion
2019-12-06 13:09
You're right. Everyone here is fucking retarded
2019-12-08 08:51
Albania jigglepeek 
+1 my froind
2019-12-09 15:10
2019-12-10 07:37
Estonia NGLTenZIsCute 
free Jamppi
2019-12-06 11:16
This is a misunderstanding I guess someone have already replied but too many comments to read through. The issue with Jamppi is that there is an account with a VAC ban that is allegedly his. If it turns out to be his, then he isn't allowed to play Valve events (major cycle). If there will be an investigation and it turns out it isn't his, then there are no problems. OG heard the rumors and didn't wanna take the risk.
2019-12-06 12:48
Europe Niko0 
+1, exept it still doesnt mean that he cant attend Majors even if the account is his. There had been "pardons" before
2019-12-08 15:41
I get worried when you +1 my comment because you and I don't often see CS the same way
2019-12-08 15:44
it took Robiin 4 years for his pardon and he is still persona non-grata within the CSGO scene because of a faulty ban
2019-12-08 15:47
Europe Niko0 
Just read thorin's article, i couldnt say it better myself (partly because my shitty english)
2019-12-09 08:03
Can you link?
2019-12-09 11:47
He has a valid point and harsh punishment rarely have the affect it is supposed to. But he is talking about specific cases seen from one POV. What about all the talented young players that decide not to go pro because of the cheaters? Or the pros that actually become world class players without a ban on their record? In an optimal world each aspiring Pro would have someone to go to to talk about this and individual case investigations could be more common. But I highly doubt it would help It is more or less a choice between two equal evils
2019-12-09 17:36
your steam account is like ID card when it comes to esports, if you dont take care you get fucked its his fault, even if he didnt cheated
2019-12-06 13:14
Good thing Valve doesn't keep chat history, all pros would be banned.
2019-12-06 13:21
Mantuu is better anyway so who cares
2019-12-06 14:06
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2019-12-08 15:43
2019-12-10 10:27
Yes, Jamppi's ban is permanent. he will get kicked out from SJ too and start only streaming.
2019-12-06 17:43
Finland Wetzzkuu 
Why wpuld he get kicked from sj tho?
2019-12-08 09:03
Why would they want player who cant attend major?
2019-12-08 10:54
Finland Wetzzkuu 
Im a SJ fan but im almost sure that they cant get to major
2019-12-08 12:10
I know that but its stupid for other players to play without chance to attend major
2019-12-08 14:33
#FreeJamppi #FreeIBP #freekqly
2019-12-06 22:07
Another cheater gone. Good.
2019-12-08 10:56
He isnt cheating
2019-12-09 08:08
Once a cheater , always a cheater and therefore no mercy. Nationality has nothing to do with it , so no need to defend cheater , just because he's from ur country , and u should be the one who condemn him for staining ur flag. All cheaters deserve to be banned permamently (FOREVER) and excluded from major cs scene , period.
2019-12-09 13:46
So why Flusha isnt banned or Rest players who have before vac accounts?
2019-12-09 14:11
Bro , i never said the system is fair and of course i agree with You in some cases and i think the VAC should be reworked . Same goes to Snax. He should be banned forever , if u ask me. Patitek (also Polish) is already banned , so why isn't snax. My point is to give no excuses and way outs to all cheaters , so they will think 100 times before installing any cheats and even if they will take the risk , they will know that the outcome will end their careers.
2019-12-09 14:49
This is good opinion about cheaters You also made me realize to be fair independtly from country This was nice :D . Have a nice day
2019-12-09 14:49
Thanks , u too.
2019-12-09 14:50
syrsoN | 
Germany PeKay 
Funny how always the young Talents have vac account wonder why
2019-12-08 11:02
Because young people do stupid things
2019-12-08 11:19
*stupid people do stupid things
2019-12-08 15:38
Imagine ruining someone's career simply because they were an average 12 yo kid who didn't know better.
2019-12-09 08:07
Seems pretty unreasonable If case really is that jamppi got VAC perma ban when he was 12. Valve should address and clarify these situations for the sake of professionalism and for the whole scene. Especially when case involves person's career as pro.
2019-12-09 15:31
United Kingdom whatacliche 
I never once cheated as a kid. Just because someone is young, doesn't excuse their behaviour. Like, for example. Should it be excusable when someone kills cats or other small animals, just because they're under 18? No, it's clear they lack proper morals. It is not being "stupid" it is being a "bad human being".
2019-12-10 08:20
Look at all the people baiting, sry we're not stupid enough to argue with someone who "believes" a 12 year old should be punished forever for what they did. It's like they should be imprisoned for stealing a candy bar, age and context matters.
2019-12-10 10:43
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