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-Stewie +who? (serious)
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United States Vollizie 
Who do you think would be the best player to replace Stewie? Ideally, someone who can play some of his spots.
2019-12-05 22:33
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autimatic
2019-12-05 22:34
#7
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United Arab Emirates X_Equinox_X 
+1
2019-12-05 22:35
#15
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United States Vollizie 
This would be the best option available.
2019-12-05 22:38
#45
2019-12-05 22:53
#24
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Brazil cathory 
+1
2019-12-05 22:40
agree
2019-12-05 22:53
nah, he is skilled sure, but he shares the same quiet behavior as the rest of TL, at least when stew came along, everyone started to be more vocal and believe they were winners. They need a player that shows a bit more fire. TLs problem is still mentality, not skill.
2019-12-05 22:53
+1 but stew is also super inconsistent
2019-12-05 23:59
Work with him, make him understand that he's not supposed to be aggressive all the fkn time especially when it's not working against a team, Liquid for example lost a few crucial rounds just because of that.. I understand he's thinking "HAH! They don't expect this!!!" and I like it, but he need to reign it back a bit.
2019-12-06 03:50
definitely. he needs to keep that fire that he has without going super aggro and taking low percentage fights. he needs to show a bit of restraint when the team has a man advantage or when he has positional advantage. stew seemed like he was great at doing that when liquid were rising to number 1. but since their fall, i think he feels like he should be doing more in game to help the team.
2019-12-06 03:54
resonable argument
2019-12-06 07:58
True but honestly the best thing stew brings to the team is mentality, the real question is who has a similar hype up mentality that’s better than stew in na? I really can’t think of anyone that’s close but like tarik and I don’t see him being a decent replacement.
2019-12-06 07:52
thats what im saying ;)
2019-12-06 07:59
#151
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Albania pgigerich 
Tarik?
2019-12-06 15:12
ye he is inconsistent, but he is also taking on hard roles, maybe they should have someone share the roles?
2019-12-06 07:57
unless they can get someone that would be an upgrade to him in every single way, then it makes more sense to stick with this five
2019-12-05 23:59
+1 almost impossible to find that "upgraded" player, without removing more than 1 player to get a combined mindset like stews.
2019-12-06 08:02
maybe cadian XD
2019-12-06 05:18
+1
2019-12-05 23:54
most overrated player, cant even perform in c9
2019-12-06 03:18
Zywoo overrated, can't 1v5 and win major for Shitality
2019-12-06 03:24
+1
2019-12-06 05:16
#85
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Brazil gtaube 
+1
2019-12-06 03:24
#124
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United States Koosh34 
lol he is just collecting paychecks at this point. Overrated player as it is that has lost his motivation to play.
2019-12-06 05:18
+1
2019-12-06 06:39
ZywOo
2019-12-05 22:34
no joke +1 if liquid can shell out the cash to buy him, they will actually become unstoppable. it makes too much sense to swap him for stew. i dont know how long zywoo will enjoy his current situation with vitality
2019-12-05 23:57
#87
sergej | 
Finland Dubsq 
HLTV is such a meme site because of r tards like yourself.
2019-12-06 03:25
#97
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Italy bennyhana 
Ok go reddit never come back pls
2019-12-06 03:36
low iq user spotted
2019-12-06 03:44
#100
sergej | 
Finland Dubsq 
>just buy the best player in the french/EU scene that doesn't even speak english you are legit a retarded though
2019-12-06 03:45
yea nobody has ever learned english before right? nt
2019-12-06 03:48
maybe let him learn english first then think about stuff like this liquid is too good team to buy someone and wait till its work they need player who is ready to play with them right now
2019-12-06 04:32
instant hostility spotted
2019-12-06 08:04
Zywoo won't work in a foreign team, I just know!! French people totally suck at languages and he's way too quiet to make it work.
2019-12-06 03:53
s1mple would be prime candidate but zywoo is too good to not consider if they really wanted to make a move
2019-12-06 03:55
As I say and that other guy above, Zywoo should not even be considered unless you want to waste a few years trying to make it work
2019-12-06 03:56
i mean look at 2016 liquid with s1mple. they definitely did not have much of an opportunity to work on communication and team structure the few months he was there. but with adding a player like that to a team adds so much firepower in game that they were able to make it deep into the two majors they attended. obviously s1mple did not enjoy being in the team because of personality issues (and homesickness). imagine what they could have achieved if he had stayed. liquid went back to being shit when he left, and it took them a couple years just with NA players to get back to the top. they even had taco join the team who had exclusively played in PT speaking lineups up to that point, and they were number 2 in the world. it's definitely a good gamble to get a player on a level like zywoo or s1mple if you have the opportunity (unless you're astralis) /end
2019-12-06 04:04
It might be a good gamble, but it's still a gamble I wouldn't take.
2019-12-06 04:06
but would you still not take it if you are liquid and not winning anything for another 3-6 months? I'm not saying they should do it now, but should definitely consider it if things continue the way they are or get worse
2019-12-06 04:10
Liquid is almost there right? I think they just have to focus on improving Stewies efficiency, the guy is sick, just imagine when he's doing the right plays. (edit: or at least not doing the wrong plays hehe)
2019-12-06 04:23
i think we agree dude. i dont think they should make any changes at the moment. but surely they must be wondering about it if they arent making any strides next year
2019-12-06 04:26
+1!
2019-12-06 08:10
I do wonder what it would be like if they got s1mple at his prime. I heard that some of the liquid guys would like to play with him again, or at least it was a cool thought. Dont know if they actually would do it though.
2019-12-06 08:09
does he even speak english? all ive heard him say is "no", and "i dont know".
2019-12-06 08:04
#3
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Sweden FujinWoW 
Literally any EU global elitě player
2019-12-05 22:34
#9
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Panama FUN4ENCE 
elitê
2019-12-05 22:36
#13
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Sweden FujinWoW 
Ence lmao
2019-12-05 22:37
#14
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Panama FUN4ENCE 
Who?
2019-12-05 22:38
#19
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Sweden FujinWoW 
Ence lmao
2019-12-05 22:39
#21
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Panama FUN4ENCE 
My name FUN4ENCE not ENCE
2019-12-05 22:39
#22
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Sweden FujinWoW 
Ence lmao
2019-12-05 22:40
Liquid lmao
2019-12-05 22:49
#48
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Sweden FujinWoW 
Nt Putin
2019-12-05 22:57
Hahahaha.. the leftists propaganda machine does produce quite the laughters
2019-12-06 03:58
#18
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Lithuania simo32 
Elitė
2019-12-05 22:38
#27
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Sweden FujinWoW 
Cr4zy loool
2019-12-05 22:41
Elitë
2019-12-06 03:19
Elitę
2019-12-06 15:04
any EU global elite player with brain*
2019-12-05 22:37
me
2019-12-05 22:35
this guy
2019-12-05 23:04
#63
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Netherlands SpiceNut 
+1
2019-12-05 23:15
+1
2019-12-06 03:19
+1
2019-12-06 03:33
#144
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India Wise_Indian 
-1
2019-12-06 09:24
Obo
2019-12-05 22:35
forsen
2019-12-05 22:35
Young fpl talent .. all na players are either overrted trash or playing for tl (except for toxic2k he is trash and overrated and playing for tl at the same time)
2019-12-05 22:35
#17
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United States Vollizie 
how bout floppy?
2019-12-05 22:38
#148
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United States Fanta_Boy 
+1
2019-12-06 14:59
#88
sergej | 
Finland Dubsq 
fan of olofmeister LOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
2019-12-06 03:26
I m not like you na fake flaggers .. changing your flaire every week
2019-12-06 05:15
no one. He is fine, every team has a bottom frag, and he steps up quite often, just had apoor two maps
2019-12-05 22:36
-1 no brain, frags only thanks to aim which is rly good
2019-12-05 22:38
#11
Zeus | 
Israel Gigska 
taco can to try again
2019-12-05 22:36
+1 -taco +luken -lucas1 +meyern
2019-12-05 22:39
#31
Zeus | 
Israel Gigska 
argentinians can speak on portugese?
2019-12-05 22:45
#36
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Europe Schizophrenx 
They're playing in BR speaking team, so I assume yes.
2019-12-05 22:47
EZ portuñol
2019-12-05 22:57
#65
Zeus | 
Israel Gigska 
Wha?
2019-12-05 23:38
portuñol = mix of porteño spanish + brazilian portugese
2019-12-05 23:49
#142
Zeus | 
Israel Gigska 
So that like secondary lang in argentina?
2019-12-06 09:09
#23
God | 
Russia amc20 
+Stewie
2019-12-05 22:40
+Stewie2k
2019-12-05 22:41
Me (serious)
2019-12-05 22:41
Forsaken (not serious)
2019-12-05 22:41
#30
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United States Vollizie 
hilarious
2019-12-05 22:45
me mens))
2019-12-05 22:41
Stop mens
2019-12-05 22:46
no its stopmens im good player )))
2019-12-05 22:46
Kkkkk mens. I believe
2019-12-05 22:47
obv S1mple
2019-12-05 22:46
He is just a fakin bish
2019-12-05 22:46
#38
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United Kingdom Sky_Nightmare 
Floppy
2019-12-05 22:47
#39
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Denmark sonnebonne 
+european, they don't have more talents in NA
2019-12-05 22:48
The problem with removing stewie could be tougher than one might think. This could ruin the teams chemistry. Team liquid are very strong vs any other team, except for Astralis. Finding a "perfect" or "better" player to swap with stew could prove to be difficult. I think TL should stick with this lineup and keep trying. Ofc eventually, the lineup will run its course and changes will be made.
2019-12-05 22:49
Nobody cares, just get Stewie off and add literally anybody else and I'm happy.
2019-12-05 22:52
So you are just a stew hater?
2019-12-05 22:55
Yes, I do not like him because to me he seems like a really annoying person to be on a team with. Remember when everyone thought Taco was the key to Liquid's success? The truth is that their 4 man core is just so strong that they would be a top-team almost no matter what player they have.
2019-12-05 22:59
Yes that 4 man core is outstanding, but they were never winners. They only started winning with stew on, so they needed a mentality change, and i think stew played a huge part in that. They even admitted as much in interviews. Hate him if you must, but you cant deny that there was a mindset change when he was brought into the team? I wouldnt mind if he got benched for someone else, but it would have to be for a player that is more focused around mentality than skill. People seem to forget the importance of mental strength.
2019-12-05 23:07
They only started winning because Astralis took the Blastralis break.
2019-12-06 04:12
That certainly helped them win more tournaments, but we will never know, and thats unfair to TL. Besides, before stew was on the team and when Astralis werent attending tournaments TL still couldnt win. They would get far in tournaments but would ultimately fail. At least when they got strew they actually won tournaments they should win.
2019-12-06 07:54
Of course, Stewie was an upgrade from BOT Taco. But the main reason they never won anything was because they were constantly getting fucked by Astralis. Since adding Stewie they've only won against Astralis two times. One being at IBP Masters. So although they won a lot of events this year it was largely due to the absence of Astralis rather than the addition of Stewie.
2019-12-06 14:44
They lost every time to astralis yes, but astralis like to pick and choose tournaments, so the ones liquid were attending and astralis were absent should have been liquids. It didnt matter who they were against in finals, because they would choke no matter what. And the tournaments where astralis attended were definitely the ones they didnt stand a chance. So it wasnt just that astralis destroyed them every time, it was also that they couldnt win the ones where astralis werent at.
2019-12-06 14:53
#64
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Yugoslavia plsnopermaban 
so your reason that TL should kick him is he annoys you
2019-12-05 23:16
I know right? Completely unreasonable imo
2019-12-06 14:55
#89
sergej | 
Finland Dubsq 
this just in the genius EU minds over at hltv said to remove stewie why? because they don't like him LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
2019-12-06 03:27
The thing is that even if they stay as top 2 team they wont have roster changes since that is good. Of course if then problems start between players yes but top 3 teams obviously wont do roster changes or too risky
2019-12-05 22:57
Ye that is basically what im saying. By removing a player you might mess with the team chemistry and they might become much worse. Important to find the right player, and you can tell that TL want to be #1 and beat Astralis. I think they should keep girding it with this team. Astralis were major chokers in the past as well so why not?
2019-12-05 23:00
#42
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France Inukekeke 
jasonr
2019-12-05 22:50
+1
2019-12-06 03:22
#51
Twistzz | 
United Kingdom Savjy 
I would try felps at this point depending on how good his English is
2019-12-05 22:59
from what i've heard he doesnt speak English well at all
2019-12-05 23:01
#55
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China SwooksarV2 
If youre the to 2-3 team, I et doubt they will change. Plus, they've had their brief moment if shine, so I think management is satisfied.
2019-12-05 23:02
#56
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China SwooksarV2 
But on serious, Bntet
2019-12-05 23:02
oh yes he can get along with elige since they are both polish
2019-12-06 03:22
#126
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China SwooksarV2 
+1
2019-12-06 06:38
+Wardell TL has lacked a true primary awp the entire time they’ve been at top, literally they can match up man for man with Astralis except for awp position.
2019-12-05 23:03
+zywoo he is a decent awper
2019-12-06 03:21
I’d like not to have a team that dominate pls, tho zywoo doesn’t seem to speak great English. Ofc anyone can understand “go kill”
2019-12-06 03:24
#60
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Algeria JOHANtw 
S1mple
2019-12-05 23:08
Cerq
2019-12-05 23:08
Luken
2019-12-05 23:10
#91
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Argentina Shuanx 
+1
2019-12-06 03:28
brehze
2019-12-05 23:50
+1 actually good changes
2019-12-05 23:57
Brehze doing really bad lately 😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑 maybe when be returns to form
2019-12-06 03:21
#73
shox | 
Spain chokOOO 
k0nfig
2019-12-06 00:01
HLTV Logic, change roster if not top 1, top 5 means they suck only top 1 is good
2019-12-06 03:05
nick bunyun or warowl
2019-12-06 03:20
#83
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Argentina Shuanx 
Luken
2019-12-06 03:22
#90
sergej | 
Finland Dubsq 
Reading this thread makes me realize how retarded some of you actually are... "take the best player from another top team" "take x washed up EU player that would be the worst on the team" "bring in a new player to the 2nd best team in the world" "bring in felps" jfc
2019-12-06 03:30
#92
fENOM | 
United States fenomix 
honestly I think OCEAN could whip these little cucks into shape. +OCEAN - anyone
2019-12-06 03:29
autimatic can be a good replacement cuz hes good with rifle and awp, so liquid doesnt have to change anything significantly in terms of roles, will take sometime for him to adjust but the main question is can he perform consistently, hes been missing recently
2019-12-06 03:34
#95
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Sweden meistr0 
Well, if they want a dedicated AWPer: WARDELL Otherwise: Autimatic or maybe a EU AWPer like Mertz etc Problem with Mertz is that he can be monster vs G2 (French G2), NaVi, Renegades(100T), BIG, & Fnatic but play like garbage vs teams like LDLC, Kinguin (ARCY), Windigo (Bulgarian roster)
2019-12-06 03:35
cerq or wardell
2019-12-06 03:45
#106
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United States Chicom 
no one liquid is the 2nd best team in the world
2019-12-06 03:56
#109
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Brazil MommyStealer 
+f0rest
2019-12-06 04:03
-stew +Happy -nitr0 +maj3r -naf +sixer -elige +roden = ez #150
2019-12-06 04:34
Depends honestly the obvious quick answer would be auti but there are plenty of talents in NA like floppy and motm (popping off hard this tourney) or like wippie, Ryann, grim. Na region has deep talent pool it just comes to a lack of top tier experience that makes people overlook players. Otherwise internationally there are tons of free agents that could fill the spot, but with that said, stew is doing a fine job in liquid. This team has good chemistry and a loss to the best team in the world is not a reason to call for a change when they very easily have the ability to dominate any competition on their day.
2019-12-06 05:05
#119
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India JW_BesTesT 
Timothy Ta
2019-12-06 05:07
They shouldn’t change anything. Liquid are pretty obviously still the 2nd best team atm. Do you think Astralis considered getting rid of Xyp in their slump? Hell no Liquid only became #1 with Stew and they will only get back up there with him as things stand
2019-12-06 05:09
Dont remove stew
2019-12-06 05:24
-Stewie +Zywoo
2019-12-06 08:03
#136
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Russia KotLeopold 
Unpopular opinion: Smooya - they need AWPer, and this dude has huge potential, he just need good teammates to start destroying everyone
2019-12-06 08:04
Smooya lmao
2019-12-06 15:09
+wardell
2019-12-06 08:12
#141
CeRq | 
Bulgaria Ramky 
+poizon ofc +POIZON!!!
2019-12-06 08:16
stewie so good
2019-12-06 09:22
#152
Xyp9x | 
Netherlands arTvamp 
Stewie so far is fine. Imo they need to remove nitro. Imo eliege grew with the meta in terms of higher skill and rifle works. Nitro didnt. His igleading isn't at the top. His awp is just an awp brings nothing special let naf and stewie awp. Nitro doesnt win much awp duels against the top and you do need that. Jdm64 might even be a better option but I personally would add automatic. N let naf and stewie awp.
2019-12-06 16:39
LUCAS1
2019-12-06 16:41
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