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TOP 20 2019
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Sweden Sw4de 
1.device 2.ZywOo 3.s1mple 4.elige 5.electronic 6.twistzz 7.brehze 8.magisk 9.naf 10.krimz
2019-12-05 23:45
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#1
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Denmark TurboHenning2 
Magisk higher than Twistzz
2019-12-05 23:46
+1
2019-12-15 13:01
#2
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Philippines nilb0g 
Lol krimz?
2019-12-05 23:46
krimz is god hes positive kd like 99% of time
2019-12-08 01:04
naf will be 5
2019-12-05 23:47
#26
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Argentina flav1nho 
naf above electronic? POG
2019-12-06 00:40
#52
device | 
Denmark bebm 
check that mvp/evp head to head lmaoooooo
2019-12-14 04:30
#4
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Poland v1ctorex 
There is no fucking way device is first or second lul shit list
2019-12-05 23:47
#5
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Sweden Sw4de 
i will eat my dick on national television if device will not be first or second
2019-12-05 23:50
ivan lol btw s0mple
2019-12-15 12:15
#6
EliGE | 
Finland Radar4447 
Tbh EliGE best this year
2019-12-05 23:52
Terrible list. This is much better. -S1mple (highest rating on lan even though his team has been a shit show, he’s still ranked highest) -zywoo (nearly better than S1mple arguably the best) -Dev1ce (Never plays bad but has a perfect team set up around and with him making it harder to play bad then for S1mple or zywoo) -Elige (Insane even when liquid plays like shit) -Brehze (on the comeup very good maybe lower but he had some insane moments carrying him here) Lmk if I missed any. Don’t got time or the brain capacity to think out all 20. Most people on here disagree with S1mple #1 but most anylists will agree with me. Most think zywoo is better but if you compare stats then S1mple comes out on top. Not to mention the intangibles like the fact that s1mples team has been a total shit show and was even inactive for a chunk of the year. If you can remain the highest rated player dealing with that then you deserve #1. Imagine how good he would’ve been if shit with his team was better organized and they never went inactive.
2019-12-05 23:57
Username doesn’t check out
2019-12-05 23:55
+1
2019-12-06 00:02
#9
oskar | 
Czech Republic y0fl0w 
electronic? way higher ratings than brehze also naf magisk over brehze, brehze top8
2019-12-05 23:56
Maybe I’ve just heard a lot about brehze being insane. But I would agree with swapping him with electronic or twistzz
2019-12-06 00:00
S1mple's rating doesnt mean much when he has 30ish less maps played than ZywOo (and Device) at big events, 41 maps less than ZywOo on LAN, less mvp's and same tourney wins in 2019. Na'Vi been skipping too many big events for him to have a real chance against ZywOo. S1mple in 2019 has had 2 tournaments with a 1.3 or better rating (ESL S10 could be the 3rd if he doesnt shit the bed), ZywOo has 5 events in 2019 with a 1.3 or better rating. ZywOo is also +992 in kills, S1mple is +876 (both on LAN) S1mple has 1 MVP in 2019, ZywOo has 3. S1mple has 1 event win, ZywOo has 1 event win (im not counting CS_Summit 4) ZywOo has a 0.01 lower rating than S1mple with 41 more LAN games played. ZywOo in 2019 has been better than S1mple in 2019.
2019-12-06 00:37
#30
JW | 
United States raymoney 
+1 He is no1
2019-12-06 01:25
S1mple playing less and going through a role change plus roster change while still maintaining the highest stat is 10x better than zywoo being perfectly set up for success on a good team. Obviously zywoo will have more mvp and tournament wins when vitality played in like 2x the amount of tournaments and vitality are a better and more consistent team. S1mple playing less maps should make the stat even more ridiculous because he wasn’t even very active some parts of the year but he still shit on noobs and outranked a perfectly setup zywoo. Even if s1mples rating was less then zywoo he still would deserve #1 player of the year and I think he has proved that at this recently with Navi’s return to form a ESL Pro League. Plus if you have watched demos from both zywoo and S1mple you can clearly see that S1mple is much better mechanically and dominated enemies much better than zywoo who plays a passive setup that his team creates for him. On the other hand S1mple plays however tf he wants to and still destroys people with any gun. Maybe zywoo is slightly better at awping the S1mple rn because S1mple isn’t primarily awping but if you compare overall impact then S1mple dominates zywoo.
2019-12-07 20:04
playing on a better team boosts your stats. s1mple playing with electronic actually boosts his rating higher bcus they win more. zywoos set up no more than any other star player tbh. to give credit to his support would be saying that he plays with the best support players in the world which he clearly isnt lmao. similar to how dev1ce gets criticized because he actually does play with the best support players in the world
2019-12-14 21:28
Both zywoo and S1mple are set up very similarly. But I would say that both Navi and vitality had rough years and looking at the teams shouldn’t be a contributing factor to who’s better. The main reason I brought up Navi’s struggles is because they caused simple to have to change from primary awping to rifleing and he still maintained the best stats. It’s hard to top that.
2019-12-14 21:44
any star player on any team is set up by his teammates. his best stats/ mvp came from when he was awping this yr ya. and your teammates are a direct factor in how well you do. the fact remains that zywoo has single carried while s1mple has electronic who is arguably better if not just as good of a rifler as s1mple. yet vitality still did better overall this year. zywoos also prob the best player right now at creating space for himself. he could really play with anyone and still have crazy rating/impact.
2019-12-14 22:06
Plus S1mple and zywoo both have low activity in the past 3 months so if you are going to use that shit logic then you might as well move zywoo down in the rankings also. Low activity shouldn’t be the deciding factor over who is better at the game. What should be the deciding factor is how good they are and what they can do not how much they played and how good their teams are.
2019-12-07 20:09
1. im sorry but fucking what? That's not a valid argument, thats like me saying "I feel like Device is a better player because he had to transition from Rifler to AWP but he still stayed consistent while playing less maps so that means he's better than X, Y and Z who're just being fed kills to get better stats". Device is also setup for success on the best team in the world currently but that doesnt mean he's the best player in the world mate. 2. Playing more means you have to be consistent more often. Otherwise someone could just go to 1 LAN event, get a crazy rating and then fuck off into the shadows of irrelevancy with a maintained 1.x rating that will never go down. Does that mean he'll be the best player? no, not really, because he hasnt shown the consistency over several tournaments and more maps to prove he can keep being this good. ZywOo has shown he can keep being as good and better than S1mple even when playing more maps on LAN. ZywOo hasnt fucked up and fallen flat or taken a hit to his rating with those extra games. 3. ZywOo has played in 10 "big events" in 2019, S1mple has played in 10 "big events" in 2019. Only if you look at all LAN events in 2019 do you see that Vitality have been to 18 events and NaVi to 14 events. Again, Vitality havent played in 2x the amount of tournaments like you somehow spat out. The only thing S1mple has to cling on to right now is his 0.01 higher rating than ZywOo, otherwise he's beat.
2019-12-07 20:50
S1mple has better mechanical skills then zywoo. My point about tournament wins is that vitality is a significantly better team than Navi at least for the first 3/4 of the year. So obv they will have more tournament wins and zywoo is the best on the team so obv he will have more mvps.
2019-12-08 00:49
My point about playing less is that by playing less he should be worse but he isn’t he’s still better. But now that you point it out zywoo has hardly played more so I don’t think that that should even be considered. If you go completely off stats then they are practically even, but S1mple wins the eye test by far and has to carry significantly harder than zywoo and has had an inconsistent team around him making it 10x much harder to remain highest rating. Also zywoo has had some terrible tournaments like for example at the last major he shit the bed and hardly looked like a top 5 player. S1mple has looked like a top 1-2 player all year.
2019-12-08 00:56
#68
NiKo | 
United Kingdom Tempest18 
S1mple is still no. 1, I agree that device is really good obviously but he has an insane team to support him but s1mple plays well even when his team plays shit
2019-12-15 13:00
#11
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Denmark OscarGF 
>Top 20 list >Only list 10 players Okay men..
2019-12-05 23:59
#14
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United States TrashPanda 
Wants us to finish it apparently
2019-12-06 00:02
#13
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United States TrashPanda 
Krimz isn’t top 10 and Electronic/Simple is too high considering they didn’t play shit for events this year, and imo that should hurt their rating.
2019-12-06 00:02
+1
2019-12-06 00:02
-iq. Imagine thinking that because they played less tournaments they are worse players. It should make them worse but even when being made worse they still have highest stats.
2019-12-06 00:11
#21
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United States TrashPanda 
You missed the point completely but, okay.
2019-12-06 00:13
yea but they didnt play enough to be best of the whole year then, even if they have better skill lmaop
2019-12-06 00:15
Ok then you can say the same for zywoo because simple hardly played less than him but nobody is going to put S1mple and zywoo out of the top 3 because they were slightly inactive. What are we going to do the same for the astralis players because they were inactive at the beginning of the year? Should Astralis not be the best team of the year because they were inactive earlier? This logic is incredibly flawed and S1mple has played more than enough tournaments to prove how much better he is than zywoo and everyone else. Also nearly every anylist will agree that 1 and 2 is between S1mple and zywoo. If you don’t think that then you clearly don’t understand the scene.
2019-12-14 04:27
Yeah zywoo has dropped off a bit and s1mple gained some form, I still wouldnt put simple as first but device's form dropped now too for the end of the year, so its not impossible. And s1mple hasnt showed that he is so much better than zywoo. He has shown that zywoo is smarter tho. Anyway dont really care, about top player, my choice is still device cuz its CS, game for 2 TEAMS. Both zywpo and simmple have dead team, simples team atleast have potential tho
2019-12-14 11:05
Dev1ce has achieved the most and maybe has better team play. But even then there are many players with better team play than dec1ce and both zywoo and S1mple are better AWPers than Dev1ce. In terms of raw impact and skill zywoo and simple are better than device because they hard carry while device is more of just a part of his team that never fails. While zywoo and simple are almost their entire teams winning conditions.
2019-12-14 21:23
Device dont have to carry, he dont.have to do.the flashy plays, very solid + smart awp
2019-12-15 12:09
you must be baiting, i cant believe someone could be as stupid as you are
2019-12-08 01:02
#19
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Bulgaria Ju7y 
Top 20 2k19 -lists 10 players
2019-12-06 00:12
+1 and top10 for that matter is 1-10 Krieg.
2019-12-06 00:13
#23
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Serbia TheSerb 
Just swap magisk and twistz and naf and twistz
2019-12-06 00:21
#24
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North America SoEz4NAF 
The NiKo disrespect..... wow.
2019-12-06 00:23
#67
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India UhddiS 
+1
2019-12-15 12:19
1 s1mple 2 device 3 elec close
2019-12-06 01:23
#36
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Canada tempOcs 
where's the other 10? LOL
2019-12-08 00:50
1. DEvice 2. S1mple 3. Zywoo 4. EliGE 5. Electronic 6. NAF 7. Magisk 8. Twistzz 9. Brehze 10. KRiMZ? NiKo?
2019-12-08 01:06
#43
byali | 
Poland j4k4r 
s1mple top 2 only if he gets mvp of epicenter and zywoo performs really bad (propably not happening) and imo zywoo has chance for top 1 if device doesnt get esl pro league mvp(propably happening) +zywoo gets mvp of epicenter, or performs really good
2019-12-08 01:32
No, if device will stole another MVP it's gonna be criminal imo this MVP should go to Electronic/KRiMZ or Brollan but i think electronic deserves this MVP cuz he was defintely best player and most impactful by far EPICENTER will tell us who is gonna be #2
2019-12-08 01:34
#45
byali | 
Poland j4k4r 
ok, but look at zywoo - playing in much weaker team than device, still getting higher rating, possibly getting 5mvps this year, and obviously more skilled than device, why not 1st? of course if he performs really well in epicenter
2019-12-08 01:42
I think cuz device won both majors and much more this year and his deficit in rating is just 0.04 i agree zywoo is much more skilled than device but tbh device with his almost 5 year consistency in top5 deserves this top1 finally If he will scoop MVP in Moscow there are some chances for Zywoo to be #1 but very little even with another MVP, Not qualifying for EPL Finals killed most part of his chances
2019-12-08 01:46
#47
byali | 
Poland j4k4r 
Looking at past year I would say that winning events doesn't mean as much as rating and MVPs. I think it's more between device and zywoo for the 1st place than between zywoo and s1mple for 2nd.
2019-12-08 01:51
Device - - Zywoo S1mple -EliGE -Electronic This how it's looks rn
2019-12-08 01:55
No ChrisJ? 0/8
2019-12-08 01:51
Woxic + ropz
2019-12-08 01:59
Top 20 from 1 to 10 nice Swedish peanut brain
2019-12-14 11:07
0/8
2019-12-15 12:13
>top 20 >listing only 10 nice brain
2019-12-15 12:15
#66
Boombl4 | 
Denmark Zim0ne 
Where the hell is CerQ?
2019-12-15 12:17
#70
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Poland GALA014 
Topic top20 WTF !?
2019-12-15 13:04
Riot Squad
2.58
INTZ
1.43
Virtus.pro
1.54
BIG
2.47
Cloud9
1.50
Renegades
2.36
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