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If he could take t3 finnish bots and make them into the third best team in the world, he can take on average t2 international players and get them to be better than what ENCE was.
2019-12-06 10:30
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2019-12-06 10:32
Finland Finlanders 
true as fuck my friend
2019-12-06 10:32
ropz | 
Finland HerraX 
2019-12-06 10:32
nt but international teams will never work
2019-12-06 10:32
Ukraine Ko3aK 
hope OG will break this stereotype
2019-12-06 11:57
at least these bots weren't washed up
2019-12-06 10:32
Finland Homeless775 
Guardian is washed up as fuck just saying, saw him on the beach washed up on my shore
2019-12-06 10:56
very nice men))
2019-12-06 10:56
allu is as washed up as NBK
2019-12-06 10:58
but wasn't at the time when ence was formed, was he?
2019-12-06 11:00
He had played inconsistently in FaZe, OpTiC, and god knows where. He had been literally shit before ENCE.
2019-12-06 11:05
literal shit = inconsistent? he had quite okay flashes when he carried that faze team. optic was just a mess, i don't know if we should count it as a team
2019-12-06 11:06
And NBK didn’t have flashes in Vitality? Allu was kicked because he was so good and definitely not washed up?
2019-12-06 11:13
allu was kicked because one: upgrade was found, second he was just inconsistent, not shit, as you mentioned. at that time, guardian was way more superior. If guardian wouldn't have been available, i don't think allu would've been kicked
2019-12-06 11:18
And the whole time in OpTiC was just shit all around, as you said. So what makes allu less washed up at the point of joining ENCE than NBK is now?
2019-12-06 11:20
optic was a team, that had no future, with literally no igl.basically a pug team. vitality had something going on with a dedicated igl and some system installed, and still, nbk was average to below average
2019-12-06 11:35
And in FaZe toward the end Allu was what? Average at best.
2019-12-06 11:41
true that. he wasn't the consistent awper. but he wasn't as much washed as nbk before getting kicked last 7 events of both players idk really. i still doubt og will get something will nbk in the line up. for some reason, he got benched in g2 and vitality. first everyone was blaming shox for being toxic, then apex n others.
2019-12-06 11:47
Allu is a main AWP and in most top team, Awpers are the most impactful/shiny players, Allu wasnt most of the time. But i agree he had great matches sometimes.
2019-12-06 16:50
optic wasn't a top team
2019-12-06 17:37
They have a good oppurtunity with this lineup lets see what they can show.
2019-12-06 10:33
imagine saying valde is washed up and average XD
2019-12-06 10:34
on average t2, because Valde, Aleksi are t1, NBK is t1-t2, ISSAA is currently t2 and mantuu is t3 at most))
2019-12-06 10:36
Denmark Sir_Cumcised 
valde t2 and NBK t1? I agreed with the other things you said but pls frnd
2019-12-06 10:42
No, Valde and Aleksi t1, NBK between t1 and t2. I realize that it could be confusing but that’s what I meant))
2019-12-06 10:47
Denmark Sir_Cumcised 
Oh ok I agree again) Mantuu can turn out to be a great addition though
2019-12-06 10:47
Aleksib | 
Finland MorstB 
only time will tell
2019-12-06 11:55
stfu with ur tiers baiter))
2019-12-06 19:03
France Tred0x 
I don't like Valde but he is clearly t1 ( I just read your answer but nvm I let it ma friend), he was topfragger when he was IGL, he was with bots that's all, now he will concentrate on his crosshair but I still dunno why they take mantuu this no name irrevelant AWPer
2019-12-06 10:50
Finland Fireworker 
Why u don't like Valdemort mens(((
2019-12-06 10:58
He sux men((
2019-12-06 11:09
France Tred0x 
Too much cocky imo, just like br fans or Stewie or EG, for me taunt is ok but when you scream or shit like this you just look like a retard
2019-12-06 12:04
They probably wanted Zywoo and are still chasing after Zywoo
2019-12-06 17:40
France Tred0x 
Probably but Vitality will never let Zywoo leave, they want to build a superteam around Zywoo, this is the last french lineup so they will go inter with Zywoo as a superstar. So i don't think that Zywoo leave before a certain period
2019-12-06 18:32
Snax | 
Finland Jartza 
alexib overrated
2019-12-06 10:39
NT Snax
2019-12-06 10:51
Finland dvlx 
2019-12-06 10:44
OG overrated.
2019-12-06 10:46
What makes this OG lineup worse than what ENCE had to work with?
2019-12-06 10:48
No t1 players. AleksiB can be good IGL,but you dont win only with good strategies. Mantu is max. tier 3. Issaa dont prove anything,NBK was good last time in 2015 and Valde is OK,but not that good as 2017-18. I say top20 team like G2,M1br,Cr4zy etc.
2019-12-06 15:56
Korea XigNGODtop1 
And pray tell me which one of the ENCE players are t1 players LUL allu? xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa
2019-12-06 16:43
No,only sergej and God allu and 2018 sunny :D Team was just fluke in major
2019-12-06 19:01
Valde >>>>> sergej+allu
2019-12-07 13:28
name checks out
2019-12-07 18:41
France Tred0x 
It's the hype that makes them overrated
2019-12-06 10:52
s1mple | 
Philippines karmaYB 
imagine faze having aleksib AleksiB NiKo rain olof + 1 decent awper will get faze back to top 5 for sure niko just need to stop tanking the shit role and igl-ing and go back to being the star, he can clearly go head to head with s1mple with his mechanical skills
2019-12-06 10:50
I agree that it would’ve made them real contenders, but apparently FaZe ”didn’t need him” xaxaxa
2019-12-06 10:52
s1mple | 
Philippines karmaYB 
idk man maybe they offered him something but OG just has better offers, not sure, but if I'm aleksiB, if faze gives me an offer, I will accept it in a heartbeat, knowing that I'm about to lead tier 1 players who can go toe to toe with the best and once was the best, they can be top 1 with that solid lineup AleksiB has some karrigan vibes which enables his team, by different calls, sometimes loose, sometimes within a structure
2019-12-06 10:56
aleksib is so overrated lmao have fun being OG fan when they lose 20 matches in arow and disband
2019-12-06 10:59
Name checks out))
2019-12-06 11:05
overrated lmao
2019-12-07 18:43
India Smauxx 
I dont know why people hate OG. Aleksib and NBk were reason why their teams performed so well. Both Vita and Ence were top5. I can see OG getting in top 5 too. They have Valde which is solid pick, he will be real star of this team.
2019-12-06 11:01
2019-12-06 11:08
aleksib alpha male
2019-12-06 11:08
If Aleksib does it again with OG then he will prove that it was his IGLing, and not ENCE's skill that made that team. Maybe it never was "EZ4ENCE" maybe it has always been "EZ4ALEKSIB"
2019-12-06 11:28
Aleksib is tactical genius. He is most know of his signature tactic "going B, but then going A". He also has second little known tactic of " going A, but going A. What a absolute legend. Top 3 IGL 4 sure
2019-12-06 11:59
Finland Homeless775 
Fuck OG
2019-12-06 11:35
Finland Homeless775 
Wtf bro😡🤬
2019-12-06 11:36
BnTeT | 
Indonesia lukerey 
yes! trust on Aleksib! #DreamOG
2019-12-06 11:45
i disagree, aleksi, sergej, and aerial consistently had 1.15+ ratings in eu mdl tier events prior to joining ence and allu had experience awping for multiple top 5 teams. they also appeared to have pretty good chemistry in game. i don't think it was surprising that ence made a few deep runs at big events, tho it was fucking stupid of them to kick their igl when their results started to slip after many consecutive lans.
2019-12-06 12:22
bro and if i pick Eastor 1.07 rating Blastinho 1.08 rating Sausol 1.12 rating Kairi 1.07 rating +Random spanish igl i have a top 2 team???? i dont think that
2019-12-07 18:47
no because blastinho literally can't put up >1.1 ratings in esea advanced. kairi's barely been able to put up a 1.1 rating against iberian teams in his 6 year cs career. sausol and eastor are talented, but sausol has never played any officials outside of iberia and eastor at his current level is a cut below any of the dudes on ence before they joined, as he averages 1.05-1.1 ratings at mdl tier events.
2019-12-07 21:22
Frankie | 
Europe PAAVO 
2019-12-06 12:49
+1 tactical genius
2019-12-06 12:52
shoud have went to faze
2019-12-06 14:33
Hes overrated
2019-12-06 16:44
og should’ve bought astralis if they want a csgo juggernaut 4 majors already and 5 more to come
2019-12-06 16:47
Xyp9x | 
Cyprus Xeeh 
Most overrated IGL to ever exist. All these finns acting like he is a god tier IGL just because he was kicked and got "screwed over" lmao
2019-12-07 18:47
he took 3 random tier 4 bot finnish players +one washed up inconsistent awp and made them top 2
2019-12-07 21:43
Aleksib | 
United Kingdom yola_ 
aka take on faze
2019-12-07 21:23
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