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Other woxic_is_not_toxic_lul 
Why are you guys denying the fact that ZywOo has played better than s1mple in 2019. ZywOo has won 2 MVPs even though his team didn't lift the trophy. The only discussion about #1 is either ZywOo or device
2019-12-07 11:08
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Asia Yarrak
Why are you guys denying the fact that ZywOo has played better than s1mple in 2019. ZywOo has won 2 MVPs even though his team didn't lift the trophy. The only discussion about #1 is either ZywOo or device
2019-12-07 11:09
cya tomorrow
2019-12-07 11:10
who is denying ? any facts ? are u dumb or wtf
2019-12-07 13:34
Who cars
2019-12-07 11:10
I care about how much idiot they are
2019-12-07 11:10
Navi will choke against fnatic anyways
2019-12-07 11:12
and electronic is gonna try to carry his baiter teammates by himself
2019-12-07 11:13
S1mple 2019 Big Events 1.3 Majors 1.24 ZyWoo 2019 Big Events 1.29 Majors 1.17 /close
2019-12-07 11:12
s1mple 1 MVP ZywOo 4 MVPs s1mple hasn't played maps as many as ZywOo and still not above so much in big events
2019-12-07 11:13
Major stats > MVP
2019-12-07 11:14
WTF, you are clearly baiting
2019-12-07 11:15
0/8
2019-12-07 12:44
#35
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Sweden eXXXist
Major stats + 1 MVP < 4 MVP
2019-12-07 13:25
0/8 delusional fanboy
2019-12-07 13:29
0/8 there are only two majors in one year. Not the best criteria. lmao.
2019-12-07 13:38
#8
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Denmark Zaerdna
Device is gonna get the #1 no doubt, for me at least.
2019-12-07 11:13
he should
2019-12-07 11:14
I think device wins it and the argument that says he is not goat because doesnt have a top1 will be crushed
2019-12-07 11:14
If atralis will win esl then yes.
2019-12-07 12:49
Consistent does not equal best. No way is he above S1mple or Zywoo. He is a great player, but never has he been number 1. Calling him goat is retarded.
2019-12-07 12:51
#50
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Denmark Zaerdna
Depends on what you consider when calling someone the goat. Not only consistency but the stats that he puts up and if you watch Astralis games you can see how crucial he is.
2019-12-07 13:40
#51
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Denmark Zaerdna
And S1mple hasn't been that great lately anyway. Skill wise I would put Zywoo or S1mple/Cerq as #1 but overall I put Device above anyone.
2019-12-07 13:41
He has 2 major mvps and 4 major, so many mvps and top5 for 4 years, will get a number1
2019-12-07 13:47
Hes goat but not #1
2019-12-07 14:33
no
2019-12-07 14:06
He can play better without having MVPs, lmao With that being said, it's still a very close match and to be honest it looks like Zywoo might take it unless s1mple goes nuts in EPL and EPICENTER
2019-12-07 11:16
I think s1mple chokes tonight but lets see
2019-12-07 11:19
If navi wins EPL and epicenter then there is no argument about #1 or for that matter zywhooo
2019-12-07 11:27
still no s0mple. electronic will be MVP.
2019-12-07 13:47
Because people like the truth. And S1mple is officially better in 2019. Not the best year for S1mple ,but he is still the best player. HLTV.org is not about fanboys, it's about facts, stats etc. Check 2018 for example. HLTV.org works not to satisfy fanboys, but for proper news / nominations / facts.
2019-12-07 11:29
Officially? Dude 0/8 bait. I am not a fanboy of ZywOo and he is better than s1mple in 2019 s1mple has played less maps and still 0.01 above. It is not even close, s1mple is max. top3
2019-12-07 12:42
#28
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Ukraine Gigska
if s1mple will clame epl and epicenter mvps than he could be top1, in any way need to wait till to 20dec
2019-12-07 12:51
Do you believe it? I do not
2019-12-07 13:21
#82
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Ukraine Gigska
if that will not happen than I guess device top1
2019-12-07 15:00
ofc s1mple's gonna be 3rd. zywoo won something, when s1mple didn't. why do people even deny that lol
2019-12-07 12:46
#29
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Ukraine Gigska
so what? example 3 mvps of device more important at least one his major mvp more important than 4 zywoos mvps. so on current moment if judging top1 by mvps that device for sure.
2019-12-07 12:57
it won't be judged solely on mvps, but yeah, as you said, device will take the top1 this year
2019-12-07 12:58
#31
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Ukraine Gigska
already possible. just interesting now if s1mples twitch bans will affect on his place in top20)
2019-12-07 13:01
lul what
2019-12-07 13:21
what did zywoo win? i only remember second place at DH malmo
2019-12-07 13:26
2019-12-07 13:27
ESL NY europian qualifer?
2019-12-07 13:30
you asked what did he win, that's all the wins he got.
2019-12-07 13:31
who cares about those t2 events, only tier1 tournament matters
2019-12-07 13:32
DreamHack Masters Malmö 2019 (Tier1 MVP) ESL One Cologne 2019 (Tier 1 MVP) ECS Season 7 Finals (Tier 1 MVP) cs_summit 4 (Tier2 MVP) s1mple StarSeries i-League Season 7 (Tier 1,5 MVP)
2019-12-07 13:36
and yet, still s1mple has 1. that isn't really an argument, to him being higher then zywoo
2019-12-07 13:37
#59
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Bulgaria cuddleslut
this isnt top 20 teams, its top 20 players
2019-12-07 13:53
???? Reply needs to have actual content
2019-12-07 13:54
#62
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Bulgaria cuddleslut
its about individual performance, not about what his team won
2019-12-07 13:54
a big chunk of reason, to why person gets placed in one ranking or another comes to achievements.
2019-12-07 13:55
brollan #1
2019-12-07 12:50
nt my swedish friend, maybe in sweden maybe in usage of SG
2019-12-07 13:22
Cuz they are delusional
2019-12-07 12:50
+1
2019-12-07 13:30
#42
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Turkey sedo7
device played 2x times better than him, but ppl denying device's gameplay
2019-12-07 13:32
#44
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Other Jmishenko
mens still think that top 20 based on trophies and mvps
2019-12-07 13:33
If i had played just 20 maps and my rate is like 1.40 and you had played 50 maps and your rate is like 1.35 who should be better ranked?
2019-12-07 13:53
#48
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Poland morosek
device #3 at best.
2019-12-07 13:37
flair checks out
2019-12-07 13:52
#63
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Poland morosek
flair checks out
2019-12-07 13:54
2 majors and 1 mvp of it, 3 mvps in total, and the one gla1ve got mvp was also good for devve stats are insane as well, more maps played and doesnt bait teammates
2019-12-07 13:59
#69
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Poland morosek
Worse k/d, less impact, worse KAST, worse awp kills ratio even tho s1 isn't awping anymore, less opening kills. Kthxbye
2019-12-07 14:04
won nothing
2019-12-07 14:20
#79
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Poland morosek
Top PLAYER ranking. dev2ce won only because of team
2019-12-07 14:32
He is mvp of nearly all tournaments won by Astralis
2019-12-07 15:03
#87
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Poland morosek
Doing 11-21 on awp map rn, top1 player.
2019-12-07 22:52
I hope he continues to suck on Overpass
2019-12-07 23:11
Even if this baiter has 1.40 stats with the amount of players he baits, I wouldn't call him best. Yesterday first map was epitome of his baiting. Amazing baiter.
2019-12-07 13:48
#77
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Spain elskio
+1
2019-12-07 14:22
Those who underestimate S1mple are either arrogant or fools, you will see today :)
2019-12-07 13:50
We have seen it Vitality vs. Na'Vi. s1mple sucked and ZywOo carried. s1mple 2018 is better but s1mple 2019 < ZywOo 2019
2019-12-07 13:55
#56
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Europe LoookATme
Says eco fragger mr.dev0ce
2019-12-07 13:50
lmfao, 0 majors
2019-12-07 13:51
Who cares when BnTeT > s1mple, device & zywoo combined
2019-12-07 13:55
this
2019-12-07 13:55
You do know that people can be S1mple fans and admit that Zywoo was better than S1mple right?
2019-12-07 14:08
Yes but it is 3-4
2019-12-07 14:19
No it's not, don't be silly
2019-12-07 16:17
#73
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Latvia -West
s1mple gonna be.
2019-12-07 14:09
0/8
2019-12-07 14:19
#81
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Latvia -West
anyway
2019-12-07 14:35
0/8
2019-12-07 15:01
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1.46
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1.01
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15.70
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1.19
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4.36
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