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Woxic as much potential as Zywoo
United States Qrispy_Jack 
Gamesense not as good but he can develop
2019-12-07 23:58
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#1
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Finland SeaSexAndSunny 
nah
2019-12-08 00:00
toxic who? oh that guy who appears in zywoo fragmovie being raped almost the whole movie
2019-12-11 14:19
Judging players from fragmovies 500 IQ get this kid tenure at Stanford
2019-12-20 17:19
Woxic is insane but not zywoo level lets be honest
2019-12-08 00:00
When he is on peak he is even more aim than Zywoo
2019-12-08 00:01
Even if he has better aim or whatever he is no better player
2019-12-08 00:02
#8
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Turkey Lennon1923 
he can be better
2019-12-08 00:07
If you are Turkish, you have no say in the matter.
2019-12-08 00:08
#13
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Turkey Lennon1923 
im not talking with u kid stfu pls
2019-12-08 00:09
Exactly. This is why you have no say in the matter.
2019-12-08 00:11
#18
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Turkey Lennon1923 
lol u looks like funny 0 iq kid
2019-12-08 00:11
I will let that sentence speak for itself.
2019-12-08 00:29
lulw kek kek u rekted this kabab komrad
2019-12-11 04:30
#79
oskar | 
Czech Republic y0fl0w 
lulw kek kek u rekted this kabab komrad
2019-12-11 12:47
lulw kek kek u rekted this kebab komrad
2019-12-11 14:20
lulw kek kek u rekted this kabab komrad
2019-12-11 14:21
#95
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United States M4_1_Tapper 
lulw kek kek u rekted this kabab komrad
2019-12-11 14:26
still toxic in his peak is good in AWP more than zywho
2019-12-11 17:24
False, Zywoo 19 and Woxic 21 and about to retire
2019-12-11 14:21
i think he is better. He is both clutch god both awp god. He has insane potential.
2019-12-08 00:08
ZyWoo is in his first year of pro-CS and playing much better than Woxic. How can you say woxic is better.
2019-12-08 00:09
I didn't know that it was Zywoo's first year in pro cs scene. I hope nor zywoo or woxic wouldn't suck like fallen after one year
2019-12-08 00:12
??? fallen top 5 player and the best awper in 2016 and 2017(he was better than dev1ce this year)
2019-12-08 00:25
yeah, where is he?
2019-12-08 00:25
arab maths LUL
2019-12-08 00:25
flag checks out
2019-12-08 00:26
arab maths, 2016+2017=one year lol
2019-12-08 00:28
#45
DaZeD | 
Turkey qubeKs 
Dude, this doesn't has to do with being turk or being from another nation. Everybody at this point knows that fallen is not good as he was back in then.
2019-12-11 04:08
is your butt hurting?
2019-12-20 17:11
#165
DaZeD | 
Turkey qubeKs 
What?
2019-12-20 18:08
nothing turk go eat kebab
2019-12-20 22:18
#150
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Denmark bebm 
brazillian math "top 5 player and best awper in 2016 and 2017" 2017 fallen was #6 hltv and tbh deserved like #11
2019-12-20 17:07
please shut the fuck up
2019-12-20 17:11
I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM IN YEARS, SORRY, COULDN'T HEAR, WHERE IS HE?
2019-12-08 00:25
He can't just keep playing with AWP, he starts struggling with crosshair positioning and tracking when he gets an ak or m4, which is understandable because he has high sens and lesser experience with rifles.
2019-12-11 14:27
woxic struggling with crosshair placement with ak and m4? do you realize how good he is with actually all of the guns
2019-12-12 16:00
I said he only struggles with tracking, which is obvious since he has high sens. His flick aim is good with all the guns.
2019-12-12 16:07
"When he is on peak he is even more aim than Zywoo" you probably didn't see what's happening when Zywoo is on peak I didn't see for 7 years any player that is as good as Zywoo
2019-12-20 18:13
Watch 2oxic fragmovs
2019-12-21 19:37
no
2019-12-21 21:07
#3
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Norway stekt_laks 
literally the most inconsistent player in the world. but he does have a high peak, yes.
2019-12-08 00:00
#22
woxic | 
Turkey icakir 
D:
2019-12-08 00:13
#23
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Norway stekt_laks 
its true tho
2019-12-08 00:13
#33
woxic | 
Turkey icakir 
is it still true ?
2019-12-08 00:30
#46
DaZeD | 
Turkey qubeKs 
I feel like its because he is awper.
2019-12-11 04:09
#86
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Spain Granjero_ 
No because of his sens imo
2019-12-11 14:17
#94
DaZeD | 
Turkey qubeKs 
But he is playing with sense for a long rime. And changing his sense can effect his aim badly.
2019-12-11 14:24
#96
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Spain Granjero_ 
Give him 1-2 month on 400dpi 3 sens with new mouse and he will be even better!
2019-12-11 14:27
#98
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Europe Barry11 
in 1-2 month with different sens mouz top 80312938129 woxic kicked
2019-12-11 14:31
#99
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Spain Granjero_ 
1-2 month better, 1-2 weeks almost on his old level
2019-12-11 14:33
Tell me in what retarded reality are these the big event stats of the most inconsistant player in the world? hltv.org/stats/players/matches/8574/woxi.. I feel like you are the kinda guy that doesnt even watch cs and gets all his knowledge about players on the forum because you have no clue about what you are writing
2019-12-11 11:34
Well, judging by these stats he indeed is quite inconsistent lol
2019-12-11 11:53
Yeah because 1.18 average is not insane in big events 🤔🤔
2019-12-11 11:57
One game he has 1.80 and the other 0.80 That’s called inconsistency
2019-12-11 12:50
#85
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Netherlands Boutdis 
lmfao ruski brain
2019-12-11 14:10
Show me one pro who never has 0.80?
2019-12-11 16:25
it is but he is still inconsistent
2019-12-11 14:38
I love how he fails to understand what being “inconsistent” means and just proceeds to call me ruski lmao
2019-12-11 14:39
that was different guy but yeah
2019-12-11 14:43
First of all, im not the one who called you ruski, second of all, woxic is not inconsistant as you say, every single pro has a bad game here and there, if 1/6 games is negative that is not considered inconsistant, every pro except maybe ZywOo and s1mple has this. I never said woxic is the perfect player and top1, but saying he is inconsistant is a rediculous exxageration and its just not true, he is an amazing awper and has fewer bad games than almost every pro in the scene
2019-12-11 16:24
#128
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Norway stekt_laks 
if woxic isn't inconsistent. then why hasnt he won a premier event in his entire career until now? answer: fluke run. mouz will literally never be at this high ever egain. /close
2019-12-11 20:10
#137
ropz | 
Belgium mainak90 
if that is true then the same goes for vitality, even with zywoo and then navi as well, considering they have simple and electronic, their performance so far has been sub par.
2019-12-12 16:16
#138
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Norway stekt_laks 
yup. zywoo - GOD but extremely inconsistent woxic - GOD but extremely inconsistent S1mple - GOD but cant carry 2v5 electronic - good player but cant carry 2v5
2019-12-12 19:34
#141
ropz | 
Belgium mainak90 
+1, actually even god tier teams need 3 solid consistent player to always stay at the top, still the mouz squad is young, given that the liquid core was working together since almost 3 years, as also astralis to get where they are, i would still say they have time to pick themselves up
2019-12-12 20:20
#130
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Turkey Thunderball 
Speak my friend. +111
2019-12-11 21:02
nah
2019-12-08 00:01
BlameF meaty
2019-12-20 17:20
#7
Austria k1x_ 
no, its like you said woxic doesnt have that game sense, thats the thing
2019-12-08 00:05
woxic doesn't have gamesense? :DDDDDDDDDDD ok boomer
2019-12-08 00:08
#12
Austria k1x_ 
read correctly "doesnt have that game sense" means he hasnt the the same game sense like zywoo
2019-12-08 00:09
#19
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Armenia I_love_greece 
He doesnt but i would say he is very good still, atleast top20 this year i would say
2019-12-08 00:12
Yes and he can get even better IMO he more potential of Zywoo
2019-12-08 02:07
#125
Maka | 
France Barburo 
How can he have more potential than Zywoo when he is on the scene since 2x longer than Zywoo but still far behind in stats ?
2019-12-11 17:35
Just slower developing cuz of Turkish environment
2019-12-20 17:04
#163
Maka | 
France Barburo 
He plays in EU Mix since 2 years.
2019-12-20 17:23
oh sorry, missed that, yeah you are right but woxic is a really ambitious guy and really working hard. I think his just gonna get better and better. + They have different style of gameplay.
2019-12-08 00:15
mad turek :DDDDDDDDDDD
2019-12-08 00:10
czech talking
2019-12-08 00:12
#17
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Armenia I_love_greece 
He is sickkk brat
2019-12-08 00:11
his precision...his reaction time...remains unchallenged. but zywoo is way more consistent and reliable and smarter in general. that's why zywoo is the world's best player right now.
2019-12-08 00:31
Ye but consistent and game sens is buildable
2019-12-08 02:08
#58
tabseN | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
It's much harder to train game sense than aim. Zywoos play just looks cleaner because hes more aware and knows what's going to happen next more often. Woxics skill and quick flicks make up for a lot of situations when hes out of position or misplays
2019-12-11 11:37
lol nt, ZywOo never misses an awp shot.
2019-12-08 02:08
expected france haha
2019-12-08 02:10
Neither Woxic when on
2019-12-11 04:02
#59
tabseN | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Zywoo is always on and the types of shots he takes are more consistent. He has his xhair in the right place more often and his timings and awareness are just better
2019-12-11 11:38
True but this can be developed, however you can't raise someone's skill cealing.
2019-12-20 17:05
#155
tabseN | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Uh... you really cant teach what zywoo does, its just an intuitive understanding of where people can be at all times based on previous info. Zywoos skill ceiling is clearly higher. Better overall aim, faster reaction times, less mistakes, great with utility
2019-12-20 17:14
Sure is only take of good coach
2019-12-20 17:17
#166
tabseN | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
It's not just knowing what to do it its executing it despite the variables. If you can teach that youd be one of the highest paid coaches. Intuition is natural
2019-12-20 18:10
Zywoo carries the fuck out of his team. Woxic's peaks are high, sure, but he's also way more team oriented than Zywoo. Can you bring up 5 bo3s where Woxic performed significantly higher than the rest of his team to win the series? Zywoo literally had tournaments where he was the only one positive in his team (IN THE ENTIRE EVENT) while getting to quarter/semis. That's just a different tier.
2019-12-08 02:24
Not his fault rest of his team are not shit like Shitality
2019-12-08 02:40
Yeah it's not. I'm just saying it's a completely different level since zywoo has hard carried his teammates and still outperformed mous placing wise. The point is, mouz has had dissapointing finishes in tournaments before yet there's never been a bo3 where one player just happened to bring the game to a win despite their teammates shitting the bed.
2019-12-08 02:53
Doesn't happen with zywoo either, it is usually lose with only zywoo.
2019-12-11 03:59
hltv.org/stats/teams/players/9565/Vitali.. They went 2nd place at this event. You don't see this kind of anomaly from Mouz. In fact, you don't see this kind of shit happening from any team in the top 15. As a team, Mouz have a significantly higher potential than Vitality because they're way more rounded than Vitality. If woxic ever gets on a team with 4 teammates as bad as Vitality's and somehow gets top3 for several consecutive months then you have a point. Until then, there's a clear statistical difference between the two.
2019-12-11 04:24
#43
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Bulgaria Ivangutan 
rofl woxic is tier 3 player 3000dpi 5 sens left hand mouse wtf is that
2019-12-11 04:01
#48
DaZeD | 
Turkey qubeKs 
But he is one of the players in his team that has a huge impact like how ropz does?
2019-12-11 04:10
Woxic is garbage.
2019-12-11 04:10
mad bcz he destroyed ence lul
2019-12-11 17:21
#50
oBo | 
Korea Moms_touch 
Woxic is like 4 years older how can he get potential as zywoo
2019-12-11 04:26
He is not even the best player in his team
2019-12-11 11:28
+1 this
2019-12-11 11:51
Comparing Zywoo to woxic is like to compare US army with the Algeria army
2019-12-11 11:30
Zywoo: Algeria, woxic: USA, amirite?
2019-12-11 11:32
Then Imagine comparing s1mple to zywhoo is like comparing Sun (s1mple) with Moon (zywhoo)
2019-12-11 11:41
lmao s0mple who couldn't win a major in his such long career. Haha don't call him sun otherwise it will burn you.
2019-12-11 11:51
sorry but its true dont hate to much haters! oh indian full of trash
2019-12-11 13:11
lmao north Korea talking. axaxaxax
2019-12-11 17:14
+1
2019-12-11 11:51
#76
ISSAA | 
Algeria TixQ 
Algreria Army 4th in the world after USA - China - CSI
2019-12-11 12:04
don’t clown yourself
2019-12-11 12:56
#84
ISSAA | 
Algeria TixQ 
tg fdp
2019-12-11 14:09
Paix sur toi
2019-12-11 14:19
je baise ta mère et je fais brûler ce qu’elle en chie ça te va merde humaine?
2019-12-11 22:29
He s even better but It doesnt matter cos no visa :(
2019-12-11 11:34
flair and flag checks out. Mad cuz s0mple nowhere near to ZywOo
2019-12-11 11:50
2/8
2019-12-11 12:43
haha I should rate this 0/8
2019-12-11 17:09
Win 1 event and people said god best close to who bla bla bla etc SAD
2019-12-11 11:37
dont even try to jinx woxic
2019-12-11 11:39
#62
woxic | 
Turkey ogZZ 
woxic is inconsistent guys
2019-12-11 11:43
ffs he isn't even close to the level of ZywOo. ZywOo's aim is only comparable to NiKo in terms of rifling and his AWPing is mix of intelligent aggressive style and device's AWPing. Refined version of device in AWPing and more aggressive version of NiKo in rifling and these guys think woxic comes close to this god. Go check his demos. ZywOo can alone fuck woxic with his gamesense rest aside aim. lmao comparing not even best on his t3 team to best player itw.
2019-12-11 11:53
Expected from muslim
2019-12-20 17:22
Hahahaaaaaaaa
2019-12-11 11:51
#69
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Poland Hell2k 
he can be better apwer maybe he is but not overall
2019-12-11 11:53
You know there is tier 2 and tier 1 players , the best of the bests belongs to tier S level such as device, elige, twistzz, NiKo, and also woxic and so much more, but to be fair s1mple and ZywOo are above tier s as we can legit consider them as God Tier They both are the only exceptions so woxic is insane but can't be compared to s1mple or ZywOo's level wich come every 10-15 years
2019-12-11 11:54
Woxic is an actual god. He seems unstoppable right now, it's a bummer he's not gonna play in summit
2019-12-11 11:56
I don't know he is as good as zywoo but he is the best arabian player that's for sure.
2019-12-11 11:58
Probably in CS but not like Suma1l
2019-12-20 17:24
#75
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Japan FPS_Erra 
woxic skilled player but that is not normally, This very very insane....They need to check him pc and game.....Maybe he not cheating but maybe he using the game deficit ...and this cant seem on game screen..He needs to check-up....Day0s FPL Cheater with Streaming.....I think day0s still cheating...woxic using game deficit on PRO scene ,ON BIG Events.Maybe everyone dont knows him trick.He incredible....I want to ask his where is the comming of your skill's ?
2019-12-11 12:02
lol xd
2019-12-12 20:24
#77
s1mple | 
Australia karmaYB 
zywoo: 9/10 rifle 9/10 awp 9/10 other guns 9/10 game sense woxic: 9/10 awp 7/10 rifle 7/10 other guns 7/10 game sense so no
2019-12-11 12:04
Bubble Flames: 10/10 awp 10/10 rifle 10/10 other guns 11/10 game sense
2019-12-11 13:18
You forgot: Inhuman erections 69/10
2019-12-11 21:13
kk ZywOo 10/10 AWP and 10/10 rifles. Seriously do you smoke crack. If ZywOo isn't 10/10 then no one is in the world. His stats with both weapons are as good as anyone. With rifle he wins 50%+ opening duels, most of the worlds best entry fraggers can't match that. He almost wins all 1v1 duels which he is presented. His pistol play is 10/10. He effectively uses pistols whenever needed.
2019-12-11 17:25
basically no one is perfect since we are humans, thats what this post implies :)
2019-12-12 20:13
Oh?? I think it should be rated in something like percentile style than rating comparing to highest peak possible.
2019-12-12 20:15
#93
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United Kingdom foolio 
As much potential as zywoo, who has only been in the tier1 scene for a year, thats like saying vinicius jr has potential to be as good as mbappe.
2019-12-11 14:22
0/8 zywoo top2 player woxic top 20 player
2019-12-11 17:13
+1
2019-12-11 17:18
xantares is not even top100 LUL
2019-12-11 17:18
Yeah if he’s more consistent (only AWP)
2019-12-11 17:15
s1mple no.1
2019-12-11 17:17
+1 everything checks out
2019-12-11 17:20
north korea again with 0/8
2019-12-11 17:25
Genji River again with 0/8
2019-12-11 17:37
what did you spell there? I'm from India not NA. Saying Gen-G lmao north Korea. How do you make Hydrogen bombs if you can't spell simple names?
2019-12-12 00:08
Both Woxic and Xantares have insane potential but they are turks, so they are not going to develop their gamesense. They had enough time to develop it but they still didnt do it.
2019-12-11 17:18
i never saw any russian with good gamesens btw
2019-12-11 17:21
hallo dosia
2019-12-11 17:21
he is not smart
2019-12-11 17:22
The average IQ in Russian is about 100 when the average IQ in Turkey is about 90, this speaks for itself.
2019-12-11 17:26
agreed. but give me one example. russian player with good gamesens ?
2019-12-11 17:29
I doubt that electronic mad top 4 only because of his insane aim
2019-12-11 17:31
Electronic
2019-12-11 21:14
Not even close to Zywoo's level.
2019-12-11 17:33
if they are in their normal form, Zywoo >>>>>> Woxic, but if they are on fire, Woxic > Zy imo. Zywoo is much more reliable because it is very difficult him to play badly.
2019-12-11 18:37
#129
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United States hobbitender 
Woxic at his peak is not only a great player but a god tier player, Zywoo is a god tier player any day of the week
2019-12-11 20:13
#142
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Denmark idkwhoami 
agreed
2019-12-12 20:21
#151
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Australia Leftistt 
+1 that's the best way to explain it tbh
2019-12-20 17:08
#144
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Turkey pngnemir 
Lets be honest that isnt true but woxic can be better and he will
2019-12-12 20:25
i like woxic.
2019-12-12 20:26
#146
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Japan FPS_Erra 
i think woxic is insane in clutches, opening kills and lets not forget about the krieg
2019-12-13 06:00
Woxic is 2 years older than zywoo
2019-12-13 06:11
Woxic is extremely skilled but not on the level of zywoo and s1mple. He is also very inconsistant
2019-12-20 17:09
Maybe not but I'm okey for he is number2 player of 2019
2019-12-20 17:21
bruh
2019-12-20 17:22
+1
2019-12-20 18:13
#162
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Oceania Rusuli 
Zywoo is a unique player for this generation, no other player will touch his skill progression in this version of the game. The fact that people don't realise that is proof of the lack of good longitudinal analysis in the community.
2019-12-20 17:22
#169
tabseN | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
I think anyone whose followed the scene for even a year can tell zywoo is special. I dont think high level analysis is really needed to tell that but there are some video makers out there that do a good job. Elmapuddy and launders come to mind.
2019-12-20 18:14
zywoo is in a other league.. he was not even a pure awper before vitality .. with riffle and pistol he is insane as well this guy is a machine
2019-12-20 18:19
#173
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Turkey Thelard 
As a Turk its not possible Woxic soo good and very talented but he is not in the Zywoo's level and He says "Zywoo and Frozen can be best player in future "
2019-12-21 19:47
ORDER
1.05
Incept
9.10
Natus Vincere
1.92
Vitality
1.84
Evil Geniuses
1.24
OG
3.90
Bet value
Amount of money to be placed
Winning
Odds total ratio
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