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Finland siNppa 
s1mple hasn't played enough this year, ZywOo has carried his non-capable team throughout this year but haven't achieved anything significant. Device is player of the year, there's no arguing about it. And if you think he's overrated, you just hate him and you're wrong. Being such a good player in a team like that, nobody's done that - in recent years at least.
2019-12-08 11:28
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Netherlands meneertjesem 
Maybe u never know
2019-12-08 11:29
#2
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Finland TuureBoelius 
Indeed. He's a much better player and AWPer than w*xic.
2019-12-08 11:29
Why are you comparing him with woxic? Is woxic number 2 awper after device?
2019-12-08 11:32
#7
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Reunion 1iquser 
yes
2019-12-08 11:33
You didn't compare them and i didn't ask to you. I am wondering his opinions about this.
2019-12-08 11:34
#11
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Reunion 1iquser 
i said yes
2019-12-08 11:35
You are not "TuureBoelius"
2019-12-08 11:53
#26
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Reunion 1iquser 
i am
2019-12-08 11:55
No you are not.
2019-12-08 12:00
#30
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
i am
2019-12-08 12:01
Prove it then.
2019-12-08 12:05
#34
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
how hasnt he replied to your comment? maybe because you're already talking to him
2019-12-08 12:05
This is not a proof. He can be busy with other things. Or he might doesn't care at all. There are many reasons for him to not reply.
2019-12-08 12:08
#41
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Reunion 1iquser 
there is only one reason he isnt replying you're already talking to him
2019-12-08 12:09
I will reply to him not you because you are not him.
2019-12-08 12:13
#44
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
i am tho
2019-12-08 12:13
If you want me to speak with you come online with your "TuureBoelius" account.
2019-12-08 12:14
#48
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
why? im already talking to you
2019-12-08 12:16
#45
2019-12-08 12:19
#50
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
#48
2019-12-08 12:19
You can easily prove yourself with coming your main if what you said is true but you cannot. Prove me wrong then let's speak.
2019-12-08 12:24
#64
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
this is my main lmao
2019-12-08 12:46
then come with your alt.
2019-12-08 12:46
#66
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
this is my alt lmao
2019-12-08 12:46
ok. I got you now.
2019-12-08 12:47
#68
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Reunion 1iquser 
no? you're still talking to tuure
2019-12-08 12:48
ok. I got you now.
2019-12-08 12:49
What :D
2019-12-08 12:31
#61
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Finland suxiboxi1 
Tuure Boelius is a finnish gay youtuber and singer. He is known as a meme and he was voted "gay of the year" maybe in 2018 or 17
2019-12-08 12:32
woxic better awper than device imo
2019-12-08 11:34
+1
2019-12-08 11:43
+1
2019-12-08 12:22
They are different kind of AWPers though.. but I'd say that Device is slacking a bit lately, he's slow to get started, he should work on that.. get a coffee 45 minutes before start or something
2019-12-08 12:26
I agree, but all I'm saying is that in my opinion woxic is better raw awper, the guy is just insane, he can take over the game sometimes
2019-12-08 12:30
As of right now I agree with that.
2019-12-08 12:58
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France Malo0o 
jw bestest so jw top 1 2019
2019-12-08 11:30
+1
2019-12-08 11:31
#6
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Netherlands bikkser 
elemeNt > SK.swe
2019-12-08 11:33
I remember elemeNt. Lets put him on top of the list. You remember NoA - The two continents?
2019-12-08 11:55
of course I do. What about eoLithic the movie
2019-12-09 07:48
botvice isnt half as good as any awper in top20
2019-12-08 11:33
Device bot, astra gods Zywoo god, vita bots Mmmuhhhhh trophiess
2019-12-08 11:35
Device gets easy picks with awp because of his team it is Zywoo Device and NAF
2019-12-08 11:36
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France FrighTyyy 
He is not even the best player on his team lol
2019-12-08 11:39
lmao so true
2019-12-08 11:45
Please do tell who's the best player in astralis, it's open mic today
2019-12-08 11:52
#28
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France FrighTyyy 
It's not easy to say, but gla1ve and Magisk have definetly more impact and are more important to the team that an AWPer who is just holding angles and padding his stats on low buys.
2019-12-08 11:56
I get your point. What do you think: how many awpers could fill his shoes and do what he does? (Not taking communication etc into account)
2019-12-08 12:15
#70
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France FrighTyyy 
I think that skill wise most of AWPers could do it, but technically it would be impossible, because of the trust that the team is giving to device and the fact that the core is used to each other and probably communicate without words.
2019-12-08 12:51
#15
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Czech Republic Jurys 
device not even top 3 this year LMAO
2019-12-08 11:41
Yeez again a thread of a person who - after 6 years of hltv CSGO player ranking - still doesn't know on which criteria this ranking is based on
2019-12-08 11:41
device doesn't know?
2019-12-08 11:48
I'm obviously talking about you
2019-12-08 12:02
Thanks for your input. I have a strong opinion about the top player this year, who do you think is the best?
2019-12-08 12:07
The hltv player ranking is mainly based on 2 criteria (for 6 years in a row already) : 1. Rating 2.0 at big events 2. Individual achievements, I.e. MVPs/EVPs Hence, the rating will very likely be: #1 ZywOo #2 s1mple #3 device #4 EliGE The #1 spot for ZywOo is as clear as the "amen" in the church
2019-12-08 12:13
#54
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Turkey lil_ghost 
yeah nice evps and mvps for s1mple hltv.y0fl0w.de/hltv_mvp_evp_2019#ranking you also forgot about team achievements, since players make up the teams
2019-12-08 12:23
Look I can only recommend you to check the rankings of the last 2 years. In 2018 device had 2-3 more MVPs than s1mple, Astralis dominated the whole year, won tier 1 tourneys like ECS Finals, EPL Finals,..., won the faceit major and device was the MVP. Still s1mple got the #1 spot. Why? Because THE MAIN CRITERION is rating 2.0 at big events (relative to the number of played maps). It has always been like this. I don't say s1mple will be 100% #2 this year, it could also be device since the difference of rating 2.0 is not as high as in 2018 and device has more individual achievements. But device being top 1 is literally impossible due to ZywOos's ratin, and his 4 MVPs, two of which he got even though Vitality lost
2019-12-08 12:35
I'm too lazy to check if your claims hold up, but don't you think that would be a robbery? Like I said, ZywOo has surely proven himself but they haven't won any significant as a team.. I don't think there has been such situation in last years
2019-12-08 12:24
#62
2019-12-08 12:34
Only kinda right. Tournanents and Team archievments also matters. Alot actually. The most important thing you forgot tho, the reason why Device will be 100% above s1mple are the Maps played. S1mple just didnt play enough this year to be top 1 or 2, i could also imagine that elige is above him as well.
2019-12-09 14:48
Zywoo is the best, carrying noob is harder than anything !
2019-12-08 11:44
#32
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World memyselfandI 
Do you even know what the word "noob" means? It has nothing to do with skill. Despite a gazillion people acting like it does. It's derived from the term "newbie".
2019-12-08 12:04
ikr, but now people use it for bad players, so i do it too
2019-12-08 12:07
#37
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World memyselfandI 
People also kill other people, do you do that as well?
2019-12-08 12:07
trash comparaison, are you braindead?
2019-12-08 12:08
#74
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World memyselfandI 
Same logic applied. Never excuse your own behavior with that of others.
2019-12-08 13:57
If people help other people, would you do that ? I hope yes, anyway stfu now, you are just a kid who try to be smart.
2019-12-08 17:45
#76
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World memyselfandI 
You were the one using other peoples action as excuse for your own. And yes, I do help others, but not because of other people, but because I want to.
2019-12-08 18:24
#72
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Russia xtkjdtr01 
Just stfu
2019-12-08 12:59
People don't understand that you can't compared a back to back major winner (this year) with 2 superstars playing in mediocre teams. Only one close to device this year would be elige who did something similar except that his team choked in majors
2019-12-08 11:47
I mean I'm totally with you on this one. Both of those mediocre teams would be most likely rubbish without the superstars.
2019-12-08 11:51
#25
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Europe laczyslaw 
top 1 2019
2019-12-08 11:54
Top 1. Really deserved.
2019-12-08 12:09
#47
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Netherlands zuzelmonster 
yesterday it was clear. it does not matter what the reason behind it was and if device had a bad day or not. yesterday woxic made very clear that he is an awper to fear. his overall performance might not be so high as that of device (which is arguable the best awper right now) but to say that there is a clear difference between the skill levels of woxic and device would be a lie.
2019-12-08 12:15
#51
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Sweden jimmyryd 
Ye woxic wayyyyyy more skilled Than device
2019-12-08 12:21
#53
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Netherlands zuzelmonster 
thats not what i am saying. he is good, device is good, but mister surrendermonkeywoo is also more as just decent. not talking about the fact that they dropped out really early in epl s10
2019-12-08 12:22
#57
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Turkey lil_ghost 
the thing is that vitality hasnt played in months and s1mple is nowhere near in achievements and mvps/evps I think the only candidates for top1 is elige and device and maybe zywoo, they all have insane impact ratings while being in a good team (not zywoo) and actual achievements unlike s1mple
2019-12-08 12:35
dont think dev1ce is gonna get first without blast finals mvp
2019-12-08 13:02
#77
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Sweden Trkmag 
Go check dev1ces MVPs/stats this year and compare it to ZywOos
2019-12-08 18:26
Espada
1.24
BIG Academy
3.82
Skin Ogres
2.90
Nemiga
1.38
North
1.50
Sprout
2.53
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