Thread has been deleted
Last comment
Top 10 Teams after ESL PL Finals
JZFB | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
10. NiP They choked some big tourneys, including this ESL PL Groups, and they haven't been that great on ECS. 9. FaZe Win in Copenhagen saves them in this ranking, but as always they choked other events. Their big win is IEM Beijing, where they beat some top teams. 8. NaVi It seems like they are back to the old form with simple + electronic duo showing in a big way. 7. Vitality They weren't attending big events, or they haven't qualified for them, that's bad and that affects their ranking. 6. 100Thieves This ESL PL wasn't their best event and they should do more about that, attend more events and stuff to improve their ranking. 5. Mousesports Streaking 2 big events (CAC and ESL PL Finals), it's great progress for them, if they keep this tempo on cs_summit it'll be great for their ranking. 4. EG Choking on every possible important event. Their only win was ESL One NY, and from there nothing. 3. Liquid They are back a bit. Showing good cs on ECS and ESL finals. 2. fnatic They are still consistent team, mouz was just better in those finals. 1. Astralis With recent placements noone is even close to them yet.
2019-12-08 19:45
Topics are hidden when running Sport mode.
#1
 | 
Finland Tusku 
pretty good +1
2019-12-08 19:46
#2
SpawN | 
Netherlands ONGix 
"tourneys" stopped there
2019-12-08 19:47
#31
JZFB | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
what
2019-12-08 21:50
+1 but fnatic #2 it's a joke, lmao
2019-12-08 19:47
#9
 | 
Sweden XenoRex 
Fnatic > liquid eg 100thieves vitality navi faze nip Only other one was astralis and mousesports, Fnatic coming up with 3 finals and 1 top four without going out early, mousesports won 2 and in the past they didn't do shit
2019-12-08 19:53
Yeah, eg it's not even Top 7 team, but fnatic won DH Malmo and what else???? they should stay #4
2019-12-08 19:55
#13
 | 
Sweden XenoRex 
3 finals and 1 top 4 vs 2 finals and nothing else
2019-12-08 19:57
#17
 | 
United States brbsyt 
If liquid can start getting double digits against fnatic and EG stops getting 16:0 by tier2's they can maybe have #2
2019-12-08 19:58
#46
 | 
North America 007DBR9 
EG and Lulquid are the real jokes, no one can take #2 from fnatic atm
2019-12-09 13:48
liquid is just inconsistent as twisstz naf nitr0 and stew were stonin and elige is teetotal go for prohibition
2019-12-09 22:04
#4
 | 
Portugal Miistaaah 
8/8
2019-12-08 19:48
#5
 | 
Netherlands meneertjesem 
+1 nice list
2019-12-08 19:48
CAC was anything but a big event lol
2019-12-08 19:49
#32
JZFB | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
classified as a tier 1 event on liquipedia. And mouz win is underdog win bcs of EG or maybe ENCE attending that event as well.
2019-12-08 21:51
liquipedia likes to be retarded
2019-12-09 00:04
so does kick_friberg_ffs
2019-12-09 00:10
#75
 | 
India ValrozVC 
+1
2019-12-09 15:11
tbh I dont even remember nip playing a single event this year
2019-12-08 19:49
#12
 | 
United States porcupine2020 
got 2nd at blast pro but that's blast and bo1s
2019-12-08 19:56
#33
JZFB | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
that's why they are 10th i have doubt between them and furia, since furia had some results but i find it very choky to fail dh playoffs for furia.
2019-12-08 21:52
#39
 | 
United States porcupine2020 
exactly why they are 10th, i agree
2019-12-08 23:59
#44
Kriegs | 
Brazil DinooxP 
I can see MiBR getting the 10th, just because they attend esl pro league finals and NIP didn't, the difference in points between #8 and #14 is not to much so one event can change everything.
2019-12-09 13:41
#8
 | 
Turkey pngnemir 
mouse>eg for sure as u say nothing from ESL NY
2019-12-08 19:50
#34
JZFB | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
yeah but mouz was inconsistent for a long time, if they won summit they will have higher placement.
2019-12-08 21:52
-eg and nip from this to ( maybe eg number 10, nip replace with g2), mouse 3, fnatic 2, lulqid 4, navi 5, 100t and faze 6/7, vitalul 8
2019-12-08 19:55
#16
 | 
United States porcupine2020 
wtf how is eg number 10 if they won a big event three months ago and won starseries season 8 along with getting semis at ecs losing to astralis/liquid in close sets, better than faze/vitality/100t/navi, easily
2019-12-08 19:58
and after that they show shit results because they "always have jetlag"
2019-12-08 20:00
some good and some bad results is still better than all/almost all bad results(FaZe, Liquid, 100T, Na'Vi)
2019-12-08 20:05
all teams you named ( mb besides Faze ) better than eg and more consistent. eg just trained some times, win 2 tournaments in 2 weeks and than decided to suck, ut all still think that they are good nowadays
2019-12-08 23:45
#21
 | 
Sweden XenoRex 
not navi but +1
2019-12-08 20:01
Mouz in t3 for sure, navi in t5 for sure
2019-12-08 19:57
1. Astralis 2. Liquid 3. Mouz 4. FNC 5. NaVi/EG 6. EG/NaVi 7. 100t 8. FaZe 9. Vitality 10. NiP
2019-12-08 19:58
#19
 | 
Ukraine wh1tetark 
Imagine putting Liquid over Fnatic after 2-0.......
2019-12-08 20:00
since the player break liquid have 1 big event final, at ECS, and nothing else. Fnatic have won 1, and reached 2 other finals Fnatic, EG, mouz>Liquid
2019-12-08 20:07
#27
 | 
Ukraine wh1tetark 
so what? you put mouz over fnatic because of 1 match too. twofaced?
2019-12-08 20:13
Yeah cuz it was 3-0
2019-12-08 20:45
#29
 | 
Ukraine wh1tetark 
fnatic won 2-0 vs Liquid lmao. Twofaced confirmed
2019-12-08 20:46
Ok then put it above Liquid idc about that, i have a freedom to make an list on my own
2019-12-08 20:47
#35
JZFB | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
this list is not based just on esl wins.
2019-12-08 21:53
#18
 | 
Canada dennek 
1.astralis 2.fnatic 3.mouz 4.liquid 5.eg 6.navi 7.100t 8.faze 9.vitality 10.nip
2019-12-08 20:00
#25
 | 
Sweden XenoRex 
+1
2019-12-08 20:06
#48
 | 
North America 007DBR9 
pretty much, navi and 100T are interchangeably imo
2019-12-09 13:51
#22
 | 
Australia TeBo 
Honestly I don’t think the top 10 has ever been this competitive. You can say with confidence now that any team in the top 10 can win a tier 1 event. And on a teams given day anyone could beat anyone.
2019-12-08 20:04
#36
JZFB | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
After years of astralis' dominance there are finally teams to stop it, and I like how astralis have lower chances of winning every tournament. Just look at Grand Slam race, 4 teams 4 tournaments, everyone has a chance.
2019-12-08 22:03
+1
2019-12-08 23:56
EG WON STARLADDER BIG EVENT TOO Pepega
2019-12-09 00:05
#43
JZFB | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
no astralis or liquid so that doesn't affect their ranking that much since they choked other events
2019-12-09 13:36
#45
Kriegs | 
Brazil DinooxP 
1.Astralis 2. Fnc 3. Liquid 4. Eg 5. Mouz 6. 100T 7. Navi 8. FaZe 9. Vita 10. Nip/MiBR/G2
2019-12-09 13:44
#53
JZFB | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
good one. i doubt only about vita, they are few places upper.
2019-12-09 14:26
#47
 | 
United States AproximateCS 
If these many teams play decent by the next major, could be fucking insane. Especially considering Mouz, G2, Nip, and FaZe don't have legend status
2019-12-09 13:49
#50
JZFB | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
imagine minors with fnatic, nip, godsent, faze, heroic, tricked.
2019-12-09 14:23
#52
 | 
United States AproximateCS 
oh fuck, I forgot about fnatic smh. FaZe won't be in the minor though, they managed 1 win last major
2019-12-09 14:24
#54
JZFB | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
yeah imagine that crazy knocked out fnatic LUL btw letn1 had match of his life with 1v3 clutch in that match was intense
2019-12-09 14:28
#57
 | 
United States AproximateCS 
Letn1 smh, either hitting insane headshots, or being a dead weight. I hope fnatic don't choke away the major again, sucks not seeing them. Don't want them to be the new nip
2019-12-09 14:32
#61
JZFB | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
letni is sucha good when he is in form but problem is he is never in form
2019-12-09 14:37
I'd swap EG and Mouz + Navi and Vitality.
2019-12-09 14:11
#51
JZFB | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
I don't think so. Maybe mouz for EG but it's still early to do that since EG is sometimes choking and sometimes they are just best. Same with mouz.
2019-12-09 14:24
#55
 | 
Russia nobody_cars 
Where is North?
2019-12-09 14:29
#62
JZFB | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
who?
2019-12-09 14:37
#64
 | 
Russia nobody_cars 
North - North is a Danish esports organization that promotes a healthy standard of living for aspiring CSGO professionals with disabilities. Although they lost to such teams like ViCi and Sharks, they have a very impressive record despite the fact that they are mentally and physically handicapped
2019-12-09 14:39
#65
JZFB | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
ah now i know what they did in their career woww :D
2019-12-09 14:40
#56
 | 
Europe compl3xii 
Why mouz 5th? Beat #1 in BO3, Beat #2 in BO5? Won 2 Big events in a ROW. Easily #3 or #2
2019-12-09 14:31
#63
JZFB | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
bcs mouz was always inconsistent, this could be one tourney wonder like faze was. just wait, they are attending summit for few days.
2019-12-09 14:38
#66
 | 
Europe compl3xii 
they won 2 tourneys in a row.
2019-12-09 14:40
#69
JZFB | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
fnatic finished top 4 at 5 tourneys in a row? liquid so + won cologne and iem chicago maybe better than eg but wait a bit to confirm
2019-12-09 14:45
#71
 | 
Europe compl3xii 
liquid won cologne + chicago like 6 months ago, point invalid. eg are choke kings. fnatic is the brollan show mouz>
2019-12-09 14:46
#72
JZFB | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
just wait man mouz is great now they could potentialy be 1st just keep this tempo
2019-12-09 14:47
#73
 | 
Europe compl3xii 
ezpz top3 this ranking
2019-12-09 14:47
How could EG lose 2 Ranks while liquid stays at 3 even tho both lost in quarters? ofc its a difference if you get rekt by mouz or a higher ranked fnatic, but not that much i guess
2019-12-09 14:32
#67
JZFB | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
liquid ECS Finals liquid top 4 ESL One liquid IEM Chicago winner liquid lost to 2 better teams in ESL PL EG won ESL One EG won Starseries EG choked CAC EG choked IEM EG choked ECS EG lost to mouz and navi.
2019-12-09 14:42
All results except epl finals are already taken into account in the current ranking arent they?
2019-12-09 15:07
and.. ofc i was right
2019-12-09 20:44
#77
JZFB | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
wut u delusional u can't judgde teams by one tournament
2019-12-09 21:42
#74
2019-12-09 21:53
#81
JZFB | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
u realize that this ranking done by me is closest one in the whole theard to the updated hltv rankings? all 10 teams corectly guessed, just missed #7 #8 and #9 order. so look at stats and cry is free.
2019-12-09 21:57
who cares? i was right at the only point i mentioned so get rekt m8
2019-12-09 22:02
#84
JZFB | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
wuw
2019-12-09 22:03
eZ
2019-12-09 22:04
#59
 | 
Netherlands meneertjesem 
Stoped reading at “yet.”
2019-12-09 14:33
#70
JZFB | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
ur onion
2019-12-09 14:45
#60
 | 
Australia gEFFx 
g2 instead of nip and 8/8
2019-12-09 14:37
#68
JZFB | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
could be but nip atleast played lot of tournaments while g2 was preparing for tourneys they choked.
2019-12-09 14:43
fnatic number 2?????? wtf
2019-12-09 21:55
#85
JZFB | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
and on officla
2019-12-09 22:04
I mean I guess they've done well in recent events, I just can't stand JW or Flusha, one is arrogant the other is cheater
2019-12-09 22:25
nice
2019-12-09 21:56
#82
 | 
Netherlands meneertjesem 
Close
2019-12-09 21:58
#86
JZFB | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
switched liquid and eg, and navi and faze
2019-12-09 22:04
HZ
2.67
Lucid Dream
1.45
Bren
1.28
MiTH.Maple
3.56
Chaos
1.93
Singularity
1.83
Bet value
Amount of money to be placed
Winning
Odds total ratio
-
Login or register to add your comment to the discussion.