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Free Hong Kong
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United States NA_1_OCEAN_EU_0_OCEAN 
Haven't seen a Hong Kong thread here for a hot minute. free Hong Kong. Down with the CCP
2019-12-10 04:20
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2019-12-10 04:20
#3
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Canada roylin 
No
2019-12-10 04:37
#4
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Canada ProvexPyker 
Poor fellas ☹️
2019-12-10 04:38
You mean sell hong kong to western corporations via cia coup Fuck hong kong protesters and fuck zog
2019-12-10 04:41
trump buy hong kong and pay off us debt???
2019-12-10 04:45
???? I am no fan of the US (my own country) but people are better off under a democracy then a totalitarian dictatorship.
2019-12-10 04:58
No such thing as true democracy when corporations inform the populace. It is simply a more abstract version of feudalism
2019-12-10 06:38
With an insanely higher standard of living? Call it what you like, we're living in one of the wealthiest times in human history.What ever it is, it's working for the majority of people in western countries.
2019-12-10 15:12
Besides -- what do you pose as an alternative?
2019-12-10 15:12
lol china is one of the most wealthiest country in the world. I don't care what most of you "westerners" think about our political system but I am sure most Chinese people are pretty happy with the CCP in control. All those motherfuckers you see on twitter crying about HK or human right bullshit are either braindead or they did something fucked up themselves and got punished.
2019-12-10 15:46
Well no it's that China is an oppressive dictatorship and the Hong Kong people don;t want to live under it that's what people have a problem with no one gives a shit about China's economic status they care that your country is keeping people in concentration camps, harvesting organs from them, trying to crush a state that doesn't want to be under the boot of the communist party and have it's own independence. China is obviously doing this because they know that if Hong Kong can do it then so can every other province.
2019-12-10 16:23
Look man , I don't blame you for saying all those things because we grew up very differently and we ve seen different things. I grew up in China, and I am telling you neither I nor 1.4 billion other Chinese have ever heard anything about the camp, the harvesting organs or million other accusations going on in western media. And for your information, most of ordinary HK people wanted to stick with what they have now which is one country two system policy. On the news you saw that huge crowd protesting on the street, but Hk is a city with 7 millions , those protesters are just a small fraction, so those protesters cant really represent Hk
2019-12-10 19:19
#103
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Macau gunnerpepe 
"but Hk is a city with 7 millions , those protesters are just a small fraction, so those protesters cant really represent Hk" but speaking on behalf of 1.4 billion people "I grew up in China, and I am telling you neither I nor 1.4 billion other Chinese have ever heard anything about the camp, the harvesting organs or million other accusations going on in western media." LUL
2019-12-10 19:29
Okay , go find another Chinese in mainland who heard about harvesting organs and concentration camp. Cuz I literally never seen one
2019-12-10 19:36
Funny how China stops the spread of information that hurts them. Almost as if they control the media...
2019-12-11 18:33
belittle china is your social media political correct, no surprise who watch cnn or bbc have that thinking, just keeping trust what they say.
2019-12-12 07:26
lmao you got fucking rekt man
2019-12-12 07:35
Tell me one news site from China that isn't either owned by the gov or owned by a member of the CCP. I'll wait
2019-12-12 13:22
lmao do you think ppl only watch those "red" media ? now ppl most watch the we-media and new media on weibo or wechat. i check bloomberg everynight, ppl isn't such blocked as your thinking.
2019-12-12 14:53
And don't you think it may be slightly hard for international news corporations to get information from within China when the news inside China can't even get it?
2019-12-12 15:19
Come on, obviously since no one knows about these camps, it must never have happened, right? Omegalul
2019-12-16 11:17
Exactly. Nobody knows I wanked to Michelle Obama and nobody ever needs to know
2019-12-16 13:56
#223
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Europe twitchy_ 
Sure man. Using VPN to access real internet, but you think you know everything about your country when everything is censored, even steam was until not so long ago... They tell you how to think and you're happy. That's good.
2019-12-21 13:38
THATS THE FUCKING POINT. your media is so censored you dont hear any real news about your own country. You guys are getting brainwashed by your media.
2019-12-16 06:47
#191
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Macau gunnerpepe 
then they will start to argue westerners are brainwashed cuz there is no censorship
2019-12-16 08:29
yeah true
2019-12-16 16:20
Most people in your country don't recognise pictures of the Tiananmen Square massacre in 1989 either, so what's your point? If they are ignorant of events in Beijing, you think they know what's going on in Xinjiang? Please. thediplomat.com/2019/12/why-chinas-xinji.. youtube.com/watch?v=v7AYyUqrMuQ Brave lady in the second link! Of course, probably blocked in China lol.
2019-12-17 16:49
“most of ordinary HK people wanted to stick with what they have now which is one country two system policy”, - that’s the fucking reason why they protest LMAO Your government broke the agreement by ignoring the HK jurisdiction, hence the protest started Maybe inform yourself about your own internal conflict before talking?
2019-12-16 14:05
they didn't break any agreement , what changed was that if a HK citizen commits a crime in mainland China then he will be sent to a Chinese court for trial
2019-12-16 14:29
Yes, that straight up breaks the agreement by taking HK’s jurisdiction system away from them lmfao
2019-12-16 15:02
#206
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Macau gunnerpepe 
Yes, there is nothing wrong with "when a HK citizen commits a crime in mainland China then he will be sent to a Chinese court for trial". The thing is HK people don't trust in CCP and are very concern about "crime fabrication" by the Chinese government, which can be a unconventional way to send those pro-democratic people back to China.
2019-12-17 13:03
Lmao, China will simply enable a total embargo and starve HK to death then. Have you seen the map? HK simply doesn't have much choice in the end. I really doubt these protesters know what starving is tho
2019-12-10 19:35
Better dead than red Commie
2019-12-10 19:36
China have nothing to do with commies
2019-12-10 19:36
Look man I know you Russians are known for being extremely stupid but you can't actually be that stupid right? You do know the CCP stands for Communist Party of China right? and obviously it's not real communism because "real communism" is impossible to achieve and just leads to mass murder like under Mao which the CCP honour as a great leader. Use your fucking Brain please buddy and yes of course it's going to be near impossible for Hong Kong to survive without aid from foreign countries which is could possibly receive I don't think the west should just sit around and let China do what it's doing to Hong Kong or it's muslim population that it has in concentration camps.
2019-12-10 19:40
>"Look man I know you Russians are known for being extremely stupid' That should end the conversation, but I will endure that toxicity, given that you are a representative of a rather edgy nation. Btw >Be British >Blame people for commiting mass murders and violations of human rights learn history boy Btw, you blame commies, but you know what is really interesting about the nature of capitalism? Everything is done to seek profit(which is not that bad), thus " aid from foreign countries which is could possibly receive" is not possible. And "real communism" is viewed as utopia,you know, mass murders are not utopia. I really hope you fakeflag tho, your writing skills make me want to poke my eyes
2019-12-10 19:50
Eat shit commie
2019-12-11 21:10
your argumentation is so perfect I can't find any words to answer I'm no commie btw
2019-12-11 23:04
spasiba
2019-12-12 21:56
Capitalism also relies on a ridged social structure. Part of that necessary structure is charity. aide is only impossible from communist/socialist/collectivist or whatever the hell you want to call it, regimes. And you know why that is? Because they can't afford to give anything.
2019-12-16 14:00
The fact that you would say Russian are known for being stupid shows you either are trolling or have a Nazi mentality. Mao was a great leader only cuz he led us through ww2 , most of his political decisions from 1950 - 1970 were fking terrible. But that has nothing to do with the China today.
2019-12-10 19:53
They do have an average iq thats lower then western eu
2019-12-11 21:11
Also the great leap forward and the cultural revolution which both led to mass famines and killed an estimated 60mil people. And also, Mao was shit during WW2. He flooded Chinese cities killing Chinese and Japanese along the way. He allowed Nanking to fall like a brick into the hands of the Japs. Mao literally did nothing
2019-12-16 14:02
"Better dead than the anarcho-cappie!" said Louis XVI. "Oh I might as well keep my head" said James II. (btw that's the true debut of jame time)
2019-12-16 06:09
#211
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Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
democracy? lol theres not a single real democracy left in the world
2019-12-17 16:40
evidence ??? Most democracies have to at least pretend like they care -- Democracies work not because it forces bad humans to be good, but because the interests of those in charge most align with that of the people. As a politician, you have to get at least half of the population to at least like you more than the opposition.
2019-12-17 17:05
#217
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Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
voting for a politician every few years is not a democracy, not even slightly. The average joe has absolutely zero influence on political matters, he just chooses someone from a given pool of politicians. its a so called representative democracy...which in fact is an oxymoron..because it has nothing to do with a real democracy. In a real democracy voting in general is not even the most important part and should only be a necessity if the people cant come to a consensus. The most important part is an open and propaganda free debate space. Not even here in Switzerland we have a real democracy..where basically the people can create and pass new laws. We definetly have one of, if not the most democratic political system in the world, yet by definition its not a real democracy.
2019-12-17 17:59
#145
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Canada Herodionus 
10 Yuan have been deposited in your account
2019-12-11 21:14
#232
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Brazil z1d72 
I LIKE BURGERS
2019-12-30 21:22
who cars? hk has dishonored family
2019-12-10 04:45
#13
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China SwooksarV2 
Yea, how about no. If I knew you, You bet I would fucking do whatever I could to fuck over your life
2019-12-10 04:46
whats the 5'4 asian twig going do to any 6'7 muscle bound american chad
2019-12-10 04:58
#17
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China SwooksarV2 
Use money and connections to fuck you up? Ok Brute who only knows how to use violence, why would I get my own hand dirty when I can fuck you in soo many different ways?
2019-12-10 05:02
#19
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Peru NotJuan 
China declaring war on the United States of America wtf((
2019-12-10 05:05
#21
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China SwooksarV2 
Ok that would fuck me. So let's hope not..
2019-12-10 06:11
Problem with communism is that it makes people opressed by it very soft. Almost like making fun of islam to a muslim. Similar reaction tbh
2019-12-11 21:12
#146
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China SwooksarV2 
Communism isn't good. Maybe in theory, but never in practice
2019-12-11 21:16
Its not communism no more. Its more like fascism now. There is private property if you bow to the emperor god king bear and nice pristine death camps too.
2019-12-12 17:26
id bow to China b4 that
2019-12-12 21:57
#178
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Dominican Republic SantoDomingo 
Those American "chads" couldn't even win Viet congs and got rekt by Arabs 9/11
2019-12-12 22:06
LUL cry more oppressed Chinese beta. What are u gonna do? Crash the stock market by selling your 2 shares of apple?
2019-12-10 11:17
#25
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China SwooksarV2 
Ok cry more middle class american
2019-12-10 13:08
Middle class American = filthy rich chinese
2019-12-10 13:25
USA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>China it's fact
2019-12-10 15:20
#35
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China SwooksarV2 
0/8 Stop baiting
2019-12-10 15:28
I don't bait. You are baiter. +12 social points for you!
2019-12-10 15:56
2019-12-10 15:58
USA is a big country, China is a small country. China needs to be careful about the US action.
2019-12-10 15:19
#36
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China SwooksarV2 
0/8
2019-12-10 15:28
Do you think China can beat USA? lul
2019-12-10 15:30
#38
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China SwooksarV2 
Ok province of China. Come pay ur tributes
2019-12-10 15:31
Nice Shit Poop of Chinese Communist Party. South Korea is an important ally of USA. Korea values ​​America and is hostile to China. Isn't China a province of USA? lul
2019-12-10 15:36
#43
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China SwooksarV2 
Ok atleast ik ur just mentally ill now.
2019-12-10 15:45
Who likes the Chinese Communist Party? Shit Poop of Chinese Communist Party
2019-12-10 15:48
#49
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China SwooksarV2 
#43
2019-12-10 15:49
# 37 and # 39 and # 47
2019-12-10 15:51
#54
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China SwooksarV2 
#43
2019-12-10 15:51
# 37 and # 39 and # 47
2019-12-10 15:52
#57
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China SwooksarV2 
#43
2019-12-10 15:54
# 37 and # 39 and # 47
2019-12-10 15:55
#63
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China SwooksarV2 
#43
2019-12-10 15:57
# 37 and # 39 and # 47
2019-12-10 16:00
#70
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China SwooksarV2 
#43
2019-12-10 16:02
Fakeflagger confirmed
2019-12-10 16:04
#76
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China SwooksarV2 
#43
2019-12-10 16:05
# 37 and # 39 and # 47 and # 68
2019-12-10 16:07
#79
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China SwooksarV2 
#43
2019-12-10 16:07
# 37 and # 39 and # 47 and # 68 ^^
2019-12-10 16:08
#82
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China SwooksarV2 
Fuck I HAVE to go landscape mode. #43
2019-12-10 16:09
Nice Fake flagger. # 37 and # 39 and # 47 and # 68
2019-12-10 16:10
#84
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China SwooksarV2 
#43
2019-12-10 16:13
# 37 and # 39 and # 47 and # 68
2019-12-10 16:14
#87
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China SwooksarV2 
#43
2019-12-10 16:15
# 37 and # 39 and # 47 and # 68
2019-12-10 16:18
#92
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China SwooksarV2 
,#43
2019-12-10 16:20
# 37 and # 39 and # 47 and # 68
2019-12-10 16:23
#98
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China SwooksarV2 
#43
2019-12-10 16:35
# 37 and # 39 and # 47 and # 68
2019-12-10 16:41
#100
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China SwooksarV2 
#43
2019-12-10 16:42
Will a small country(China) be against a big country(USA)?
2019-12-10 15:38
world country area rank: china#3 usa#4
2019-12-12 07:32
0/8 ccp dog poo poo 🤮🤮💩💩🤧
2019-12-12 07:37
# 37 and # 39 and # 47 and # 68
2019-12-10 16:43
says small from a tiny half penis land. wat a jk 😂
2019-12-10 19:40
Anyway, USA>>>>>>CCP
2019-12-10 20:23
Is Kr a part of USA?
2019-12-10 20:33
June 25, 1950 Do you know the Korean War? Without USA support, we could have been part of the Chinese Communist Party. So we are grateful to the USA.
2019-12-10 20:39
taking the invader as its protector ,kkkk common beta mentality. btw China couldn't care less about its Korean one-time-vassals, ROK or DPRK. It fought that war only to keep the Americans away from its border.
2019-12-16 06:37
You are literally embarrassing your own country here. Just how much do you hate it?
2019-12-16 06:44
Fucking CCP. Communist invasion killed people around the world in 1950. Do you know this?
2019-12-16 11:08
I sincerely wish that East Turkistan Tibetan Taiwan Hong Kong Macau Inner Mongolia Manchuria independence. Fucking CCP
2019-12-16 11:12
we don't give a fuck to care all of u asian tiny monkeys.
2019-12-10 20:39
Germany was once a divided country. If you know the feelings of a divided country, you should support Korea.
2019-12-10 20:41
Cmon dont be rude
2019-12-30 15:02
Zhao family?
2019-12-10 15:39
#44
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China SwooksarV2 
Uh. Yes? That's my surname.
2019-12-10 15:46
How dare you to have surname Zhao
2019-12-10 15:47
#48
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China SwooksarV2 
I'm confused.
2019-12-10 15:49
0/8 You are either fakeflagging or simply stupid
2019-12-10 15:52
+1
2019-12-10 15:54
#62
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China SwooksarV2 
How many influential Zhao's are there? How am I supposed to know which one you're talking about. 0/8
2019-12-10 15:57
Fakeflagger confirmed
2019-12-10 15:59
#73
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China SwooksarV2 
Are u talking about that meme which common people use?
2019-12-10 16:04
#75
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China SwooksarV2 
Wait fuck, did you just insult me in English? Fuck off mate.
2019-12-10 16:04
free hong kong
2019-12-10 04:54
#18
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Peru NotJuan 
#FreeVSM
2019-12-10 05:02
If you can't free yourself from Chinese goods aka decouple with china, how do you free hongkong? Talk is cheap
2019-12-10 05:40
I’ve been boycotting everything assembled in China since the first live round was used. Police there have become terrorists
2019-12-10 11:18
i think you would agree with me, police brutality is bound to happen when there is clashes between civilian and the police force.Happening in Hong Kong, happened in the US.
2019-12-10 15:50
It's bound to happen yet it shouldn't. My big issue now is that the CCP has been replacing the Hong Kong police with mainlanders who have done stuff like violating the Geneva Convention by riding in ambulances and bringing people to the mainland and beating them
2019-12-10 15:59
There is a lot of disinformation going on in Hong Kong from both side, the term "fake news" are mentioned frequently by the President DT too. i just hope the people and government can compromise and work on a solution. In contrary, i think it is not in China interest to undermine HK situation when they are currently negotiating with the US. Especially when the media spotlight is on HK, it will be near impossible to censored such hideous act
2019-12-10 16:17
You must know this. China has suppressed and suppressed not only Hong Kong but also Uighur Tibet's Inner Mongolia Manchurian human rights and freedoms.
2019-12-10 16:21
Countries deal with their own issues differently , look at how israel issues with Palestine, USA war on terror , women rights in Saudi Arabia , and how China deal with theirs. You may not like how they are doing it but you would agree with me that there is no independent nations that would want foreign interference into their domestic issues. Do you want to live in a world where much powerful nations can tell you how your country should be run? But that does not mean we should be silent on this subject. IMO UN is the place to solve issues like this and China has always being a strong advocate of UN and the international law and order.
2019-12-11 14:04
ok. fake flagger
2019-12-11 17:14
What a disappointing reply from my Korean friend, a waste of my time waiting for your response.
2019-12-11 18:30
# 123
2019-12-11 18:36
i do not hope to convinced you in agreeing with me. But i hope what i have written can generate some thinking for you. Have a nice day my Korean friend. Im a S1mple fan too!
2019-12-11 19:00
# 125
2019-12-11 19:02
Hong Kong isn't a domestic issue. It's a world issue. Hong Kong holds the status of an SAR. Many countries hold Hong Kong to different standards than China. Hong Kong has been able to thrive thanks to this freedom. In 1997 when Hong Kong was handed over to China they were supposed to have 50 years of this freedom. China has tried to suppress this fact and take control before that time is even halfway done. All of this is fact. Now, wether or not China should be able to do what they are doing is a matter of opinion. I personally don't think they should. People should stand by their word. I get that's not how the world works, but that's the ideal world. Now one thing that is technically opinion but treads the line of fact is that the way the police have gone about doing their side of the incident is wrong and at times illegal by international standards. It was recently found (by recently I mean like a month ago) that police were riding in ambulances to ambush protestors that were injured. This is directly against the Geneva Convention. The police also do stuff like shoot protesters who haven't even touched them, call Hong kongers cockroaches, and send arrested protestors to Shenzhen to be beaten. Point is, anyone with 12 braincells could see that China is in the wrong here. We shouldn't take this lightly. Edit: also China basically has control over the UN with Russia. They've officially condemned the protestors and refused to show any remorse for Chinas illegal actions
2019-12-11 18:27
+ 1 USA <3
2019-12-11 18:36
Thank you my South Korean friend
2019-12-11 19:17
Sure.
2019-12-11 19:31
All 5 permanent members of UNSC has veto rights, i do not know where you got the misinformation that China and Russia has control over UN. France,USA and UK from NATO are the other 3 permanent members, UN is made out of member countries .It is a fact and you would agree with me that most country are much more aligned politically and ideologically to the West than China and Russia.From that , we can deduce that essentially China Russia are the minority in UN. So how can a minority control the UN where majority sides with USA and allies? In terms of money, soft power influence and military might, US itself outclass both of country, so how can they "out influence" USA together with EU ? I hope you can enlighten me on this issue and why you think otherwise. I think you would agree with me that by international standards and norm, US also did have their fair share of police brutality history and i would admit that you are far more knowledgeable on this subject. I can totally understand how you feel when you see the horrible things that had happened in the states in the past are repeated in HK now. The inaction at home makes you want to do something to change this.i agree with you that HK police can definitely do better than this and it is in their best interest to do so. HK SAR status has allowed tremendous economic interaction between China and the world. All country have their right to ammend how they want to interact with any country that they have issues with.But we have seen powerful nations like China, USA strong arm other nations through means of sanctions , cutting trade deals using economic ties to influence internal politics of other nations. This is how Superpowers behaves. My Point is in my view, For China and many alike HK incident started out as a domestic issue but some in the west wants to develop it into an international issue and drag the rest of the world into "fixing" China because they are becoming a serious competitor against USA and your national interest. We have seen how proxy wars and conflicts are created by the conflict of interest between the West and Russia I hope that you can understand that many of us living in Asia hope the HK incident will not be use as an excuse to forward ones nation interest and disrupt the peace that we have in Asia since WW2. USA and allies can definitely survive a clash with China with its massive wealth and you are far away but please consider many of us in Asia are vulnerable stakeholders that are that much weaker, poorer that might not survive this clash. I hope that get my message. Once again thank you for taking your time to reply to my wall of text. i want to emphasis that i do not seek to change your view on this subject but to learn and hopefully understand your pov , i believe that we all seek peace.
2019-12-11 19:52
Thanks for replying with actual content instead of just trolling as is normal on this site. It is true that the US, France, and the UK all have veto powers, but on more minor issues that don't go to the big 5, it's much easier for China to wrangle them and get their way. That's what China has done here. The UN has failed their job and has failed it horribly. And yes the US did do horrible things in the past. Things that can never be repayed. We should pray for the victims of oppressive regimes throughout history as well as current victims. Now with SAR status, the agreement between the UK and China in 1997 essentially states that China can't interfere in Hong Kong except for acts of terrorism or war. So calling Hong Kong a part of China is "technically" true, in practice Hong Kong acts like it's own country. I have heard so many people say the US and other Western allies caused the protests. Lemme say, I lived in Hong Kong for the first month of the protests with diplomatic status from the US. China has been pushing this narrative that the us caused the protests since the very first protest. Truth be told, the US did literally nothing. Interference started much later on after China began breaking it's agreement more obviously. I couldn't care less about the US benefiting from it, and honestly it'll hurt our trade war so it's not rly helping at all. I care about the people of HK being free. China has been the one increasing military presence in SE Asia. The us has increased in response only. After China started claiming they had more land after making fake islands that don't actually exist the us started having a larger presence. China is playing a dirty game. I do hope the other countries turn out fine, and they probably will because china has no reason to go after the rest of se Asia and niether does the US. I believe your flag is of Singapore correct? Do you remember when Singapore was living under Malay rule? Remember how the Singaporean gov actually cared about people and made the country better? That's what I want for Hong Kong.
2019-12-11 20:46
In addition, the CCP has strong oppression against Uighur religion and human rights. This evidence revealed the drone camera video leak that CCP recently kidnapped many Uyghurs near the Uyghur borough. And in 2008, in Tibet independence protests, the CCP indiscriminately slaughtered many independent Tibetan protesters. I wonder if it's really right. The world must unite and destroy the CCP. Uighur Tibet Taiwan Hong Kong Macau Inner Mongolia Manchuria must regain freedom and become independent.
2019-12-11 21:17
I am glad that you are still willing to engage in an open conversation with me rather than name callings. I want to confirm with you that i am indeed a Singaporean that do not have the same opinion on this matter with you. China just released this video on terrorism in the mainland: news.cgtn.com/news/2019-12-05/Extremism-.. I hope some of you can spend some of your precious time in reviewing this. I will explain to you why i want to defend China on this matter: The War on terror since 2001 has caused total 335,745 direct civilian death out of 801,000 during military operations. Indirect death up to 3.1millions in the region. Was it right? Yes and No. Was it in USA interest? Yes Source: commondreams.org/news/2019/11/13/so-call.. Futhermore recently it was reported that U.S. officials misled the public about the war in Afghanistan Souce: washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/investi.. Was it right to misled the public? No. But was it in USA interest? Yes It is fact that Saudi Arabia empire strongly opressed against women and women rights in Saudi Arabia is absolutely horrendous. Furthermore they practice sharia law that the west would definitely be against of. BUT USA is still the greatest ally of Saudi Arabia in that region and you don,t see USA ever criticizing them for it. Is it right for USA do this this? No. But was it in USA interest ? YES So going back to what you have brought about China. Was it right for them to do what they had done? No. But was it done in China interest? Yes My point is nations only behave wisely when they have exhausted all other options. It is difficult to lecture other nations and tell them to do things that go against their national interest. It is only through mutual respect and understanding that nation can solve the issues between them. CCP consist of 90 million member and china has 1.4 billion population. You want to destroy CCP? Not very realistic as the government still have wide support of people within China ,the party controls the military which have nukes in their possession. You are a Korean right?So what happens if Civil war really broke up in China? You would at least expect hundred millions of civilian fleeing the country, some of them will travel south and into the Korean peninsula. You would expect at least tens of millions refugees that would want to seek refuge in S.Korea. By then, do we really expect S.Koreans to stand on moral high ground and accept this number of refugees? (Remember they are in the millions. ) i know for a fact in 2018 ,that S.Korea only accepted 2 out of 400 refugees? Was it right for S.Korea to not want help in this Humanitarian crisis? No. But was it in their civilians interest? Yes You get the point that i am trying to drive? Countries and its citizen are not saints, you will be disappointed when you set the expectation that people will do the right things all the time.
2019-12-12 06:59
ok fakeflagger
2019-12-12 12:02
You cant wake up someone who is pretending to be alseep. This will be the end of our civil conversation, for i have nothing more to learn from you except for your display of bigotry
2019-12-12 12:50
I have a Chinese friend. He said in detail that he indiscriminately kidnaps and oppresses the Uighurs who dislike CCP. Do you believe in fake news? My Chinese friend said that China oppresses not only Muslims but also Christians. I will not believe this.
2019-12-12 13:05
Singapore is a Muslim country, and if you quote, are all Muslims terrorism? All Muslims are not terrorism.
2019-12-12 13:07
What do you know about CCP? I've heard all the stories about CCP from Chinese friend.
2019-12-12 13:10
A simple google search will tell you that we do not have a state religion. Please fact check before you tell the next Singaporean that we are a Islamic state lol. What do i know about CCP? I know that they are a highly capable and competent governing party of China. How do i know? I will explain to you: Firstly,obviously if they are not competent the rest of the world will not be paranoid of them like they do now . Like how S.Korea do not fear the North. Secondly, you compare China with india. Why India? India is the most populous democracy in the world, similar to how China is the most populous country. India had their first election in 1950s while the CCP established PRC since 1950 too. You can say both country developed around the same time frame. NOW you compare the current state of India and China, it will be hard for anyone to disagree that the governing body of China is performing alot better than India. That is DESPITE india having a democratic system, which the world would agree that it is a better system. Lastly, the legitimacy of CCP lies are determined by the citizens of China. They lifted 850 million Chinese out of extreme poverty and since opening up their country their average house hold income increased 4 times in a span of one generation. And now they are the Second largest economic body in the world. Give credit where credit is due, do you think the Chinese think that CCP is incompetent?
2019-12-12 15:17
I need to disagree with you that this HK incident is a minor issue that have went under radar in UN. In fact UN human rights office has already called for probe into human right violation in HK and had accused HKPF of using excessive violence. China has since called out UN on this matter. I am very relieved when i read that you have actual experience in HK and not like many others whom are just pulling things out of thin air. Glad that you have pointed that China has been pushing the narrative of Foreign intervention in HK. I think you would agree with me that the US interference in HK has HELPED China to distract people from the Real HR issues in HK and aid them in labeling it as foreign intervention that USA is already infamous for. Pardon me for commenting on your domestic politics. It is not a far sketch to say that when Opposite Camp leader Nancy Pelosi met up with Protest leader in HK, she has the motive and it is in her interest to undermine Donald trumps trade deal with China. To help her gain a upper hand in ousting DT WHICH impeachment process is also led by her. Again another case that can be argued that certain US politician are using other nation internal conflicts to gain domestic support. Do they care about HK being free or is it more important for them to impeach DT? There is no reason for China to destabilize the region and as you know that majority of China population are still very poor. It is a fact that China need a stable and peaceful region to progress economically and as a region, Asia has been benefiting from China economic development. Cannot deny that people quality of life has improve due to the cheaper products and service coming out from China, things are just more affordable to average folks. Look up the BRI, most have signed up for it and why did they sign up for it? Mutual beneficial economic and infrastructure growth. I think you would have notice that USA influence in Asia has diminished a lot in the recent years, whereas China influence had greatly increased. However i do not think that China thinks US Navy is just for show, they have 1 compared to the 11 aircraft carrier USA owns . Japan , Okinawa , South Korea , Philippines, Taiwan and even Singapore has US bases or military presence in them. Furthermore the huge gap in military spending between USA and China will only increase exponentially, you know the numbers. It will make no sense for China to initiate a military conflict in ASIA, they stand no chance economically and in military power. IMO you would agree with me that it is in every nations interest to bolster their own defense line against potential aggressor when they get economically stronger and can afford money to do so. Yes you are correct that i am a Singaporean. But you got it wrong in context, my forefathers do not believe that Singapore can survive without being a part of Malaya. But we are eventually kicked out of Malaysia against our will. However, we are colonized by the British empire for 144 years. We remember the days where we got no rights or whatsoever as a subject of the empire, it is our forefathers that are motivated by experiencing colonization that them to lead us into an independent state. I think it is unfair to compare Singapore to HK as we are kicked out of Malaysia and we are an independent nation. HK is a SAR , they are a part of China and that makes the situation totally different. I do think HK government cares for its citizen ,i do not see why the people in HK still works so hard for the economic development of HK after 1997 if they think the government do not care about them. Hongkongers are well known for being hard workers in our region and they have the longest working hours too. I think you have seen during your time in Hk that even when the protest is ongoing the citizen still went on the work and protest in their free time/lunch time. Would u work your ass off for a government that do not care about you? I doubt so
2019-12-12 07:04
#27
rko | 
Saudi Arabia WWF 
no. Paid
2019-12-10 13:27
#28
oBo | 
Korea Moms_touch 
Uk should have kept hongkong for everyone's happiness
2019-12-10 13:32
+1 and the UK should do more now.
2019-12-11 20:51
#29
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China serdim 
Cry is free
2019-12-10 13:33
Free Hong Kong Democracy Now Free Tibet Democracy Now Free Uyghur Democracy Now Free macau Democracy Now Free Inner mongolia Democracy Now Taiwan No.1 China No.9999
2019-12-10 15:12
#41
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Brazil fuNNa 
eZ china
2019-12-10 15:38
Free Winnie the Pooh and free Hong Kong.
2019-12-10 15:50
No China is doing good. F those criminal protesters!
2019-12-10 15:51
CCP is worlds largest terrorist organization
2019-12-10 15:57
That terrorist CCP dog barks What should I do?
2019-12-10 16:03
What is ccp
2019-12-11 17:07
Chinese communist party
2019-12-11 18:15
Both sides are scumbags
2019-12-10 15:55
You say that while not having to fight for basic human rights. You are granted those rights just via existence in a western society. Hong Kong is not
2019-12-10 15:58
+1 Say no to collectivism!
2019-12-10 16:03
Free Hong Kong Revolution Now. Free Hong Kong Democracy Now.
2019-12-10 16:05
+1 Free HK
2019-12-10 16:23
#81
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China 0asis 
who cars
2019-12-10 16:09
Who 🐒🐒
2019-12-10 16:19
#91
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Brazil z1d72 
yes
2019-12-10 16:20
Nuke hong kong
2019-12-10 19:30
#105
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United Kingdom whatacliche 
The protesters were doomed to fail from the beginning. China is more likely to execute every protestor than to grant them freedom. In the end, 7 million from 1 300 million, is a drop in the ocean.
2019-12-10 19:34
why not free ur mom to the protestors? It‘s time to show up.
2019-12-10 19:50
#114
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Norway de1ka 
nuke bejing and let hong kong to invade all china
2019-12-10 19:52
Possibly 20+ million innocent peopledying for 10 million people getting free FUCK YEAH
2019-12-11 19:21
#139
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Norway de1ka 
20 million of communists*
2019-12-11 20:34
If you're not trolling you're actually a terrible person
2019-12-11 21:26
#149
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Norway de1ka 
it would be better for all of us
2019-12-11 21:27
kys for the sake of humanity pls, cuz I claim so
2019-12-11 23:07
#184
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Ireland sexiestuser 
nt mainlander
2019-12-16 06:42
Nt trying to b8 me, fellow russian fakeflagger
2019-12-16 07:34
#192
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Ireland sexiestuser 
im not russian wtf👀
2019-12-16 09:28
#128
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United States Chicom 
+1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
2019-12-11 18:33
Free Hong Kong Democracy Now Free Tibet Democracy Now Free Uyghur Democracy Now Free macau Democracy Now Free Inner mongolia Democracy Now Taiwan No.1 China No.9999
2019-12-11 19:28
+ 1 lul
2019-12-11 19:32
Not in jail yet? Subhuman
2019-12-12 12:04
#160
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China Manchu 
Hong Kong belongs to us
2019-12-12 12:17
Always
2019-12-12 12:35
Go suck Pooh's dick more brainwashed retard.
2019-12-12 17:22
#179
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China Manchu 
Oh, are you mad? Wait for occupation. You can do nothing.
2019-12-13 06:27
I'm 100% sure I can do more than you CCP slaves.
2019-12-15 20:59
+9999999
2019-12-16 07:49
#193
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China Manchu 
Hahaha, you wouldn't be able to do anything.
2019-12-16 10:00
Let me see. I drive a BMW 5 series, own a house in Norway, able to work from home, don't get censored nor brainwashed by the gov. Now tell me about your shack made out of tinfoil and dumpster-diving for food.
2019-12-16 16:27
#205
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China Manchu 
So materialism means you are living a good life? You know that without logistics world wouldn't work, so that's why I can't work from home. What could I expect from "free" man.
2019-12-17 11:40
Surely if all I cared about was being carefree I'd move to an island like Tuvalu and do nothing for a living. I like to have the best living conditions I can have while living fairly relaxed, materialism is a part of that. Working from home also means I don't have hours I need to "work", I just need to complete the set goals and take the rest of the day off. Logistics is important but your position is not. It could be replaced at any second as there are billion people who can and is willing to do the same. I can't argue whether or not you like your job the same way that you can't argue living conditions requires some form of materialism. Did you miss the part where it said "don't get censored nor brainwashed by the gov"?
2019-12-17 16:36
#218
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China Manchu 
I'm totally happy with my living conditions, so is pretty much every Chinese who lives in a place they want and do the job they like and have a salary that they prefer. If you are going to say are the poor people happy? Probably not but the situation is a lot better than it used to be even for them. That applies to Hong kongs or Cantonese poor people as well, they have one room living space and house prices are just going up in Hong Kong. I never said I couldn't be replaced, but so could you keep that in mind as well, pretty much everyone on this planet could be replaced, even political figures, the problem is it could drive countries into chaos. You know that you are getting brainwashed by the government just as much as I do. Do you really think that Americans are telling the holy truth? Or any other country in that matter? They are twisting the "truth" about China to protect their own interests and criticize us for allegedly telling lies while doing it at the same time. Just like they lie about Yemen, Iran, Russia, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Cuba, Venezuela and many others that are even a little bit anti-western or anti-American.
2019-12-18 15:44
I don't live in America, and I don't like American propaganda but at least it's way milder than Chinese propaganda. I live in Norway atm. One of the least propaganda filled countries in the world. Don't forget I'm a Hongr, I don't need propaganda to tell me what CCP is doing. I've witnessed it myself.
2019-12-18 16:02
#220
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China Manchu 
America's propaganda hides their war crimes and funding of terrorists and you call that mild? What have you witnessed exactly if it's all allegedly propaganda? I've lived here my whole life and have seen zero of those things that those western propaganda medias talk about.
2019-12-18 16:06
Compared to hiding massacres of its own population, hiding war crimes is pretty mild. Before I left HongKong I even saw CCP officers in civil clothing kidnap/arrest a non-violent protester and drive towards HZM bridge (bridge connecting HK with Guangdong province in China and Macau for those who don't know). I've also seen other mainland officers destroy property disguised as protesters and encourage aggressiveness then join the police and instruct HK police to arrest people.
2019-12-18 21:16
#222
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China Manchu 
There are now massacres of any ethnic groups, western lies and propaganda to make us seem bad, evil genociders. Two nukes and napalm and countless others are mild to you? Innocent civilians suffering in countless countries is mild? How do you know for sure that they were CCP officers? You asked them if they are CCP officers? Ps. I know the HZM bridge, just like every Chinese. Probably Westerners are the only ones who don't know. Are you just assuming that they are CCP officers or do you have 100% confirmed information? How can you be so sure that they weren't just casual protestors? They won't always be CCP officers allegedly disguised as civilians causing problems. Just because it's easy to blame us, it doesn't mean it's true.
2019-12-21 13:24
Obviously all civilians won't be peaceful but when these 6 guys were spotted in civilian clothes destroying public&private property trying to fire up civilians then later ID'd themselves to Hong Kong riot police with mainland police ID's and speaking mandarin only.
2019-12-28 20:41
#226
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China Manchu 
But how you know what their ID's looked like? They won't be showing them during protest because it's not any casual situation, especially if there's violence going on.
2019-12-29 12:56
Ofc they had to unless they wanted to be arrested themselves. Oh and by the way, no one is lying about USA nuking Japan. Like are you retarded? Did I say I don't think it's a bad thing to do? Or did I say the propaganda is milder? If China nuked anyone they would actually try to brainwash their population into believing it never happened or in best case that it was justified.
2019-12-29 18:29
#228
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China Manchu 
They don't have to show them to police when violent protest is going on, they will be arrested if they damage public and private protest and their ID's will be checked there. Riot police won't have time to check ID. Also, their ID's wouldn't say their job either. I wasn't just talking about nuking Japan, I meant places like Vietnam, Afghanistan, Italy, Iraq and countless others. You literally said American propaganda is milder which is a pure lie, they are hiding and whitewashing their war crimes, denying their funding to terrorists, selling weapons to countries like Saudi Arabia which bomb civilians with those weapons and still continue to do so. Don't you see? Every country has their propaganda, so assuming that China is the evil propaganda machine that would deny nuking another country (if that would happen) applies to pretty much every country with nukes. It's ironic how you say that China would say it's justified because that's exactly what the U.S did with Japan, saying it was justified because it saved human lives. I wonder if the Japanese felt the same way.
2019-12-30 14:57
You're beyond saving. Please unplug your ethernet and donate your heart to black market doctor.
2019-12-30 21:21
#233
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China Manchu 
Nothing else to say? I thought you would have at least some other stories about PRC officers showing their ID to the riot police officers during the riot. At the start you had some arguments, but then you fell on this level, what a disappointment.
2019-12-31 13:40
lmao , a guy driving a BMW 5 , has a job and his own house. Yet he is making hatred comments toward CCP on HLTV, and calling people who disagreed a retard. Sure it all added up nothing wrong. lol
2019-12-17 15:17
How is it hatred if your government is the one suppressing a free society and he is pissed off about it? And if you're actually supporting the chinese government then go and fucking research how big of a problem china is to the whole world.
2019-12-17 15:21
he literally said we are CCP ' s salve, how the fuck is that not a hatred comment ? And btw, I don't think any of you guys know half of what you are talking about. All you guys do is see some shit on twitter and Facebook and think that is true, meanwhile 99% of Chinese don't even use twitter and Facebook to talk about their day to day life in China.
2019-12-17 16:26
I'm not even talking about day to day life in china. I'm talking about the impact the chinese government has outside of china and how much shit they pull off. And let's be real day to day life in china is decent as long as you're chinese and not disturbing the authorities.
2019-12-17 16:47
Why would I not have hatred for CCP? They're the most fucked up brainwashers in the world. Before I left HongKong I even saw CCP officers in civil clothing kidnap/arrest a non-violent protester and drive towards HZM bridge (bridge connecting HK with Guangdong province in China and Macau for those who don't know).
2019-12-17 16:50
hong kong is not china.
2019-12-13 10:12
Free Hong Kong from CIA terrorists.
2019-12-12 13:10
#174
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Sweden GeT_CoRrEcT 
Sincerely, KGB.
2019-12-12 17:24
#173
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Sweden GeT_CoRrEcT 
It's time for a crusade, don't wake the white man.
2019-12-12 17:23
yes
2019-12-16 07:35
I never stopped talking about it, i know im not a Konger but i still feel a great sensation of pride in my heart when i see so many people literally fighting for FREEDOM, to break apart from the GOVERNMENT...at first i used to get emotional about it and eventually got used to it, what i would give to join them and go all out civil war against the chinese scumbags... The of course i look at this shithole south america and see the Chileans, wealthier than half of europe, wealthier than a couple countries in the EU, the 3rd wealthiest country in America....protesting in the streets asking for more government, more social programs, more redistribution of wealth, more "equality", more "tax the rich xd" and i just think to myself "Universe....wtf have i done to you for you to land me here???"... #FreeHongKong
2019-12-16 07:48
#215
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United Kingdom Breezeeh 
#FreeHongKong
2019-12-17 16:57
#225
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United States Melanin807 
#FreeHongKong mens :)
2019-12-28 20:45
#229
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United Kingdom Breezeeh 
#FHK and Uyghur Muslims
2019-12-30 14:59
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