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FaZe FalleN
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Sweden Velocityyy 
Faze are in a need of a real IGL and AWPer, so why not get FalleN? Great pickup imo
2019-12-10 09:40
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No
2019-12-10 09:40
#5
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Sweden Velocityyy 
Why
2019-12-10 09:43
Fallen would fit Faze because he is an old player over his Peak. But sucks tho
2019-12-10 09:56
and cuz hes a snake and clearly not better than NIKO
2019-12-10 12:10
#272
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Brazil pedro_verd 
wtf u think he would replace niko?
2019-12-14 20:20
kkkkkkkkkkk yeah
2019-12-14 20:36
lmao
2019-12-13 02:13
In short : Fallen is yet another washed up player and FaZe are collecting dusty washed up players. #SAVEBROKYY
2019-12-13 02:14
+1 #SAVEFPLPLAYER
2019-12-14 22:27
it would be NEO part 2
2019-12-15 00:02
#69
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Japan Ron1E 
Because he will kick 2 players, take taco and fer and will change players every month
2019-12-10 12:48
#81
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Portugal iamchadux 
+1
2019-12-10 13:49
#100
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Sweden Velocityyy 
he cant kick players himself, that's a team decision
2019-12-10 15:23
in MIBR he kicked and picked everybody he wanted
2019-12-10 15:31
pull that one out of ur ass
2019-12-10 15:49
#154
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Brazil _FaZeUP 
source: "the voices in my head"
2019-12-10 19:07
haha! good one
2019-12-11 10:57
#234
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Brazil JackJackJack 
+1
2019-12-13 20:11
"source: trust me, dude"?
2019-12-13 02:15
#212
FalleN | 
Brazil dmn1 
actually i heard fer has the final say in these decisions
2019-12-13 08:28
who?
2019-12-13 21:43
#117
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Yugoslavia Esketite 
say that to niko lul
2019-12-10 15:51
truth
2019-12-10 09:41
#3
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Israel SOEZ4NIK0 
-Olof after Major I don't think he wants to leave though. This team has been his life project since the early 2000's,he would never abandon his roots or friends
2019-12-10 09:43
They have yet to accomplish something big and their plan also costs FaZe a lot of money
2019-12-10 10:11
#46
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Europe 7ckngmad 
Ngl still pretty sad when i think about boston. Hoped for guardian and rain to win a major
2019-12-10 11:56
No C9 best
2019-12-10 14:37
who9
2019-12-11 10:58
#279
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India Grimm_jow 
Biggest fluke in the CS history.
2019-12-14 21:00
where is FaZe major?
2019-12-14 22:11
#104
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Russia Hidd3N_ 
I wouldn't say Olof's the problem tho. He's playing rather solid right now. I would kick rain or broky tbh
2019-12-10 15:28
#108
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Israel SOEZ4NIK0 
Broky did nothing wrong
2019-12-10 15:34
#129
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Russia Hidd3N_ 
Yeah true... if he's baiting for cold and generally playing support, he can't be putting up high ratings
2019-12-10 16:39
Plus he’s a total alpha
2019-12-10 18:24
-rain no?
2019-12-10 18:42
#153
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Israel SOEZ4NIK0 
NiKo and rain get along really well,No way NiKo will kick him
2019-12-10 19:06
#187
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Faroe Islands EvilAstral 
Rating of all players on EPL: NiKo - 1.22 broky - 1.11 rain - 1.03 coldzera - 0.96 olof - 0.84 And rain playing bitch roles on hardesd positions. And you really thinking that they have to kick him?
2019-12-11 09:49
#188
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Faroe Islands EvilAstral 
If he exchanges roles with a coldzera, then his rating will not fall below 1.15
2019-12-11 09:52
#182
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Germany Shadyy89 
early 2000s? You talking about Fallen and mibr here? He only a pro since end of 2006 and according to liquipedia he never played for mibr until 2018 (liquipedia.net/counterstrike/FalleN)
2019-12-11 09:20
#195
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Israel SOEZ4NIK0 
He did,in 1.6. They even won a major back then m.youtube.com/watch?v=ornJkqqb1ts&t=934s
2019-12-11 12:21
But fallen wasnt on the mibr with cogu that won the major
2019-12-13 13:54
Major is in May, I can't tolerate this mediocrity till then
2019-12-13 22:27
please no. fallen trying to igl faze will take ten years off his life
2019-12-10 09:43
#6
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Brazil 1930 
fallen can't hit shots and be consistent, it's been a while now
2019-12-10 09:45
#22
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Sweden Velocityyy 
he's been much more consistent than kng on the awp
2019-12-10 10:38
#184
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Argentina trackssZZZ 
kng is shit
2019-12-11 09:30
#185
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Sweden Velocityyy 
+1
2019-12-11 09:30
#52
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Canada kniGhtlife 
To be fair, he's almost 30. His rating will only decline from here. I believe his career will end in T1 on mibr at some point. The best hope for older players still in T1 scenarios is actually as IGLs to compete, because their lack of effectiveness with rifles is less expected at this role, or as coaches for non-competition. It's a sad reality of aging. Players like f0rest are an enigma. Not many players can actively compete or start up careers in their late 20s to early 30s, especially the latter. Their experience is where they will shine in anyway over younger and more inexperienced players in such situations as LANs and game sense.
2019-12-10 12:10
this isnt like football tennis, or any other sport. Where u lose energy or everything like u were young. Anything u can lose is reflexes and biggest problem is to be always motivated u cant be motivated if ur playing like from 1.6 days as pro (2005 to 2019) no others bullshit cant stop u to play bad. And those players who are 28+ they lack motivation at first play, stop with ur logic dude this isnt a football career so oh god he cant run like he was 20 ofc thats normal. So i dont agree in any point u said literally ur logic is somehow stupid
2019-12-10 12:49
It's not reflexes that you lose. You get worse at perceiving future events and immersing yourself in the game. Compare how immersed you were in a movie as a kid compared to as an adult. The human brain ages slower than the body in terms of maturation, it will finish growing at age 25. The last area of your brain to finish growing is the prefrontal cortex, this area of the brain is responsible for understanding the consequences of your actions. So the older you are, the less impulsive you are. This is why the number of car crashes for 18-22 year olds is 50% higher than for 25-29 year olds. The less impulsive you are, the more you will consciously and subconsciously think about your own actions and in intense games like CSGO where there's so many decisions and things to keep track of simultaneously, a 25+ year old's brain gets overloaded with the sheer volume of work their prefrontal cortex has to process. Meanwhile, an 18 year old for example does not have as much room in their prefrontal cortex so they can play on a much more intuitive level.
2019-12-13 14:30
sorry, but cant take that seriously the reason for players to get worse before age of 40 - just to name a number - is no losing of reflexes or getting to much information. players would be in their absolute best, if done correctly, because they have 20 years of experience. simple as that. the reason is in 99% of cases that you get other responsibilities, planned or not, like getting a family (kid and/or wife), thinking about the future compared to some 20 year old, which might get you to focus on sth else in preperation to "after-gaming-life" or simply losing motivation to play. that is not solely on gaming. check ur friends in other sports. most have no interest in playing sports semi-professionally because of some of the reasons i posted. IF a player is focused and motivated to play professional gaming, he can easily do that above 30 upwards. the thing is, that our generation is the first ever in esports, so there are no pioneers or people we could say played fps with age 40 or sth like that on the high level. but it will happen, players getting older, money gets better and it will evolve in the 2nd, 3rd and further generations of gamers. really 99% of first generation of esport gamers did NOT have the opportunity to really even think about playing at that age, because there was not enough money involved, so many guys who might have had the skills and will to get there, they had to do sth else in order to provide for family etc. there is no more potti, heaton, blizzard, frod, and many other FPS legends. there could be in the future, no one is holding a player like flusha back to play for another 10-15 years. you will see. its all self motivation if you want to play gaming at that age or wanna start some traditional job at some point, but its definitly not reflexes or lack of brain capacity.
2019-12-13 19:41
When did I say that it's due to a lack of brain capacity?
2019-12-13 19:55
thats how i interpreted your baseline by saying that some parts of the brain of an 18 year old are better for gaming compared to an older person.
2019-12-13 20:04
I said that younger people will perform better in games like CSGO because their prefrontal cortex is underdeveloped.
2019-12-13 20:08
sorry but u cleary dont just look at the facts all players after 29 just get worst except mabey forest but give him 2 more years mx and he will be below .90 rating prove me wrong with facts not just comparing it to other sports.
2019-12-14 20:16
clever it cannot be proved NOW but in the future for sure. i explained why. all players who could prove it retired because of LACK OF INCOME to afford playing fulltime, not because of lack of talent or anything else. you would have a point if esport would be around for 100 years, but it isnt. its like asking for a new medicin to prove its long time effects, its simply not possible. wait 10-15 more years and progamers with age of 35 or 40 will happen.
2019-12-15 00:30
Both f0rest and fallen are bad. Neither have won a single tournament in over 2 years
2019-12-10 12:57
#84
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Sweden Velocityyy 
The same with cold? Is cold bad as well just because he hasn’t really won anything lately?
2019-12-10 13:53
Cold won a tournament last month
2019-12-10 15:54
#126
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Sweden Velocityyy 
forgot about the blast win, but still, that doesn't really make sence. Just because a player hasnt won a tournament in a while doesnät mean that they have to be bad. Even s1mple didn't win anything for a long time etc etc
2019-12-10 16:30
Hltv Writers said it was a fluke win
2019-12-10 16:42
BLAST
2019-12-10 19:48
#92
Kriegs | 
Brazil DinooxP 
I can name you several players that did not win anything in the last 2 years, so they are bad 2?
2019-12-10 14:03
Yes
2019-12-10 15:57
#186
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Canada SoldatHeero 
lol according a study your response time goes down .5 milliseconds per year. Hope you realize how small that is, that is 1/2000th of a second. Also the younger people were also essentially "prefiring" more often and they were pressing the response button before the stimuli was shown. The difference is quite marginal and insignificant and other factors like sleep, nutrition and a clear calm mind are likely more important. There is just a small portion of older players because many have already competed and eventually if anything it is burn out from playing the game so much you can lose your zest. The new counter strike players being added to the pool are far more likely too be young because anyone who is over 24+ has already moved onto other things and have their hands full with REAL life like girlfriends and challenging full time jobs. All these little pre 20 kids that think 28 is so old is just comical. In real life foot ball goalies, MMA fighters, Tennis players can still compete at the elite level right into their 30s and those real sports actually have real physical wear and tear.
2019-12-11 09:43
#196
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Canada kniGhtlife 
At $30,000/month contracts, there's few jobs in the "9-5er world" that will bring you equal amount pay. That's just salary. Factor in prize money, endorsement revenue, stream revenues, etc. Top tier players could likely earn $50,000-$60,000/month, easily... To play a video game. There's a reason so few 1.6 players remain. It's not because the money is better in other industries, lmao. Team Liquid players make more a month than a specialized physician does, for sheer example. The incentive is there to put life on hold for 3-5 years and make mad bank and then worry about "the rest of your life" in your mid-30s. The fact is, there are a LITERAL handful of 30-yr-old players in T1 competition. f0rest has a newborn, for example. Most coaches, commentators, etc, put JUST as much time into game as the players, and, equally, have families. Yet, still hold down esports careers - just not as players anymore. Esports is a whole new level of celebrity status. And the money is finally there for it. There's no reason for a player in their 20s and 30s not to pursue a career - if what you said is accurate. NEO (in his 30s), still plays. Top HLTV 1 in 2011. Now? Barely able to get a team. Still applies the same effort + now has experience beyond most other players. It is age-based. As unfortunate as you and any of US older players wants to think otherwise. Look at players like Zywoo and Boombl4. In fact, MANY top players. You think their nutrition levels are on point? LOL. Please. It's deterioration at a biological level that is the result of the lack of older players. Plain and simple.
2019-12-11 12:28
#197
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Sweden Velocityyy 
Older players doesn't really lose skill or reaction times till they are like 36 right? It would defiently be the motivation going away, and focusing on you life outside a video game. If a players wants, he could go on until he's 36, but most choose not to because the lack of motivaiton/wanting kids etc etc
2019-12-13 02:13
#211
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Canada kniGhtlife 
Lack of motivation? Were you around during the 1.6 years, or are you just making assumptions? Players used to play pro for gas money to events, whilst sleeping in their cars and free peripherals from "sponsors" back in 1.6 days (2000-2013). Money didn't really hit the Pro CS scene on a stable level until about 2014/15. That's when players started getting REAL salaries and making some serious bank and also having healthcare, travel expenses covered, sponsored top tier computers, etc... In these years, T1 orgs started making MAD revenue bank off advertisement revenue (99% of team funding in those days). Players were finally getting some serious bank for their efforts. You're telling me that players who slept in their 1992 civic's outside a LAN event for their share of a $40,000 prize pool aren't motivated? Rewind 10 years, guys like Zonic (Astralis' 33-yr-old coach and top grossing 1.6 Dane of all time @ a measly $115k over his career) were making almost nothing and/or being abused by their orgs. Those guys would be DUMBFOUNDED by the amount of money players at CSGO's T1 level make vs. what they made in T1 CS1.6. Money is widely the single largest motivator there is in the world. You're telling me that NEO, who was voted CS1.6 player of the decade (2000s) and HLTV Top 1, who is STILL actively competing, is NOT MOTIVATED enough to remain #1? If what you guys say about "non-biological deterioration isn't a factor" is true, then that guy should STILL be in the Top 20, even at 32-yrs-old. He started his career in 2002, and has seen what it's like to be dirt poor and play a videogame professionally, when players can make over $500,000 a year now at T1 when you incorporate $30,000/mo ($360k/yr) salaries, prize money, endorsements, streaming revenues, private business ventures, etc. The money is there. 5 years making that sort of bank will set you for retirement and enjoying the rest of your life by 35-yrs-old. Don't tell me that these guys (many of which never even did college/university) are walking away from a cash gammon that millions would switch places with them for in a heartbeat, to go take a 9-5 shipping job at an Amazon warehouse. Get real, lmao. There are 30/40-yr-olds right now who would drop their entire life for a piece of that cake or to switch lives. The reason we DON'T see any 30-yr-olds (ever) in the Top 20 is because natural biological deterioration of eyesight, cognitive sharpness, arthritis, and a plethora of other aging ailments start to hit hard in your mid-late 20s and doesn't stop until you're deceased. That's life. This is why a player like Zywoo (who was not even 2-years-old when NEO started playing pro CS) is a top tier player @ 18/19. This is why ALL these players are top tier at 18/19/20, etc, and then decline as they go through their 20s. It's all there, the science is real, there's no cases of an upstart @ 25 becoming a T1 pro @ 30. Admit the facts. Natural biological deterioration is the cause of pro player retirements in late-20s to early-30s as their skill starts to slip and decline, never to recover. 99.9% of players on this forum would drop what they have to get signed by Team Liquid and make half a million+ per year, lol. That's the real facts.
2019-12-13 08:27
#214
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Sweden Velocityyy 
woah didn't mean to upset you just stating my opinion. F0rest and people like FalleN have said themself that the older you get the mor tired you got from playing this game. And as i said people want to focus on their life instead of focusing on a video game. I am pretty sure that the most people who have played the same game for over 13 years gets tired of it, more or less. And thats also a fact. And it's retarded bringing up examples like neo or f0rest when they are examples of people in their 30's actually have motivation lol. And the zywoo thing is also retarded. There is a reason why legends like potti or spawn doesn't even play the game anymore, because they are tired of it. And it's retarded thinking that teams in their 30's or older will stay on top. There are always younger people who are more motivated and have more of a drive, and people who plays the game for fun instead of playing it for work. It's not like footballers stop playing when they are 30? Probably because they dont play football more than 8 hours a day trying to improve. They still got the motivation in themself's. Admit the facts. Natural biological deterioration is the cause of pro player retirements in any sport in people's 40's, not fucking 20's lmao. And yes, while some skills decline, some also gets better. "99.9% of players on this forum would drop what they have to get signed by Team Liquid and make half a million+ per year, lol. That's the real facts." is also the most retarded thing i've heard. Of course they would, why wouldn't they? Pro's said themself that bringing in so much money in a video game can make it more like a job than a hobby, which is also a factor of people losing motivation for a game. It's hard to compete when you got not motivation or drive left and youngsters like brollan with an insane amount of drive comes up? Of course they are gonna get better. These arguments you are saying are retarded, no offence. So right now im gonna go do something else with my life, instead of arguing in hltv for hours
2019-12-13 13:42
#273
shox | 
Korea Jew2K 
ur telling him not to make assumptions, but ur also assuming that the older players never lost assumption
2019-12-14 20:20
#311
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Canada kniGhtlife 
That's not an assumption. There isn't 1 actual case of an older player persevering. On top of that, there's also no example of a top tier player who started playing pro in his mid-20s and ended up on top, with his career rising (if this theory of not having reactionary decline effect your performance - like he claims). Not 1. That facts as clear as day. There's not a single example of a player getting better after all their time playing. Based on what his argument is, if you start @ 15, by 30 you're a god-king if you want to be. But instead of give an example of that, all we've EVER seen is players decline before they retire in a sad state. It's not for lack of trying. It's because in video games, younger players are biologically superior - hence why they decline as they get older. Making assumptions about their personal lives doesn't negate the fact that all we see are players individually decline as they get older, not improve. There's more evidence to support this theory than there is to make an assumption it's because the guy is bored of making $600,000/yr and would rather put his lack of post-secondary education to use by getting a job selling ice cream at IKEA. Lmao. Seriously, kids. In fact, if said argument that players don't deteriorate in performance due to aging were true, then older players would have the best of all worlds for many reasons: 1. More LAN experience and comfort with travelling and foregoing jetlag and other associated issues would mean this player should be outperforming any 18-yr-old on his team. 2. Their game sense would be out of this world. Particularly in a case like f0rest who is 31 and plays with a 17 year old... Literally, he has been playing as long as this kid has been alive. So let's recap: f0rest isn't facing biological reactionary decline because it doesn't exist (as the wetawd above claims) and his experience in LAN events as well as natural game sense for playing this professionally for 16 years should propel him VASTLY above any 18-yr-old player. Correct?
2019-12-15 20:11
#155
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Brazil _FaZeUP 
lul he's a way more consistent than almost every brazilian pro
2019-12-10 19:08
#7
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Brazil aquaplayy 
he is brazilians fuck you EurPoorss Xd MIBR TOP1
2019-12-10 09:46
#31
Boo | 
France mbl4 
top 11
2019-12-10 11:11
#180
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Brazil jung1eboy 
top #1 1
2019-12-10 23:52
#181
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Sweden Velocityyy 
top 0,5
2019-12-11 09:10
0/8
2019-12-10 11:22
#58
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Brazil aquaplayy 
u ar a liar robocop
2019-12-10 12:16
U hurt me mens ;(
2019-12-10 12:54
FalleN is not a sellout like Coldzera
2019-12-10 09:53
#11
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Brazil Ze_Pikeno 
+1 exactly what i was going to say not every player is like trashzera
2019-12-10 10:02
+1 True mens
2019-12-10 11:22
Fallen only uses MIBR to give visibility to his store and side-projects. Cold actually wants to win.
2019-12-10 12:16
Wouldn’t faze give him more recognition than mibr?
2019-12-10 13:01
#78
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Brazil NukebRS 
For Brazilians no
2019-12-10 13:30
#93
Kriegs | 
Brazil DinooxP 
But he prob would want more money too.
2019-12-10 14:03
#94
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Brazil NukebRS 
If he went to FaZe i don't think his salary would be that much higher, + basically 100% of his customers are Brazilian, so if he left MIBR he would prob lose customers
2019-12-10 14:08
#160
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Brazil _FaZeUP 
lose brazilian customers, but faze has a huge fanbase tho
2019-12-10 19:10
#169
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Brazil NukebRS 
But I don’t think he has stores outside brazil
2019-12-10 20:12
#159
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Brazil _FaZeUP 
It surely would
2019-12-10 19:09
a.k.a. marketeiro
2019-12-10 14:44
#157
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Brazil _FaZeUP 
+1
2019-12-10 19:09
Fallen never behaves his friends like cold So 0/8
2019-12-10 09:59
#29
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Sweden Velocityyy 
He said himself that if the team doesn't bring in the right results they will do something to make it better. So why not leave rn tbh
2019-12-10 11:06
Fallen is a real men. Egozera is a shit friend my friend. Also lost against mibr AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2019-12-10 15:55
#12
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Poland PoIand 
Please no, overrated bra71l
2019-12-10 10:05
#13
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Brazil NiceBrazilian 
wtf((((
2019-12-10 10:07
#20
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Poland PoIand 
Fallen weak man, coldzera best braizlian
2019-12-10 10:31
0/8
2019-12-10 13:56
+Woxic = major winner :Faze clan
2019-12-10 10:10
#34
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Austria epiXYZ 
Why would woxic leave a better Team for this trashclan?
2019-12-10 11:15
#48
device | 
Denmark bebm 
because woxic is the reaosn mouz > faze if woxic went to faze, then faze woxic > mouz
2019-12-10 11:59
#76
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Austria epiXYZ 
So zywoo should go to g2 since he is the reason for vit>g2 omegalul
2019-12-10 13:22
#132
device | 
Denmark bebm 
yea if zywoo can replace either amanek or jackz on g2, he should do it, much better chance at winning titles with kenny hunter and nexa than with apex alex rpk and shox
2019-12-10 17:25
#133
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Austria epiXYZ 
no.
2019-12-10 17:41
olof is a good awper though
2019-12-10 10:12
incosistent sadly, and sometimes he doesn't even AWP, NiKo or Cold take it FaZe need a main AWP
2019-12-10 10:14
#18
NiKo | 
Finland FocusMen 
+1 olof inconsistent . can be insane and smart but inconsistent
2019-12-10 10:17
#26
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Sweden Velocityyy 
yeah very inconsistent
2019-12-10 11:01
#19
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Russia nobody_cars 
-olof +Fallen -Niko +fer -broky +Taco -rain +felps
2019-12-10 10:24
#25
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Sweden Velocityyy 
PogU
2019-12-10 10:45
where is -baitzera?
2019-12-10 11:02
#45
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Russia nobody_cars 
-baitzera, +Zqks
2019-12-10 11:52
+1
2019-12-10 12:18
Zqks omegafuckinglul
2019-12-10 13:57
#88
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Russia nobody_cars 
Zqks > baitzera
2019-12-10 13:58
you must be baiting
2019-12-10 13:58
#90
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Russia nobody_cars 
Im just exaggerating a lil bit, the only baiter in here is baitzera
2019-12-10 14:00
#144
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Sweden Velocityyy 
who is zqks
2019-12-10 18:39
#217
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Brazil FerW 
Zequinha
2019-12-13 13:49
perfect to waste their ManCity money on
2019-12-10 10:37
#145
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Sweden Velocityyy 
+1 they rich anyways
2019-12-10 18:40
#23
s1mple | 
Germany dr9zen 
would be great
2019-12-10 10:38
#24
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Sweden Velocityyy 
+1
2019-12-10 10:44
Yh maybe FalleN’s 2016 stratbook will work.
2019-12-10 11:06
#30
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Sweden Velocityyy 
His strats is still good. And defiently better than nikos lol
2019-12-10 11:10
Fallen addition could work but idk if cold is willing to play with him again
2019-12-10 11:13
#35
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Sweden Velocityyy 
I dont think cold and fallen was the problem, if there was any. If there was any problem it has to be with someone else.
2019-12-10 11:19
No one can tell what was the problem but I don't see fallen leaving his Brazilian roots for any eu/na team, if it happens it would be a very surprising move
2019-12-10 11:25
The problem of cold is that not everybody was giving 100% to play csgo. Maybe he was talking about Fallen, maybe Fer. Dunno.
2019-12-13 15:05
They lost the motivation for winning after several roster changes and they won't win anything till they stop changing players on the team and try to stick with one core for atleast 6 months and the results will be there
2019-12-13 15:19
Fuck off dont ruin FaZe
2019-12-10 11:15
#36
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Sweden Velocityyy 
isn't faze already ruined
2019-12-10 11:19
FalleN would ruin much more
2019-12-10 12:32
#99
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Sweden Velocityyy 
why?
2019-12-10 15:23
Can't ruin something which is already ruined
2019-12-10 11:23
#55
FalleN | 
Brazil Gagazo 
+1
2019-12-10 12:12
#39
grux | 
Montenegro Kladiz 
The worst bait i ever seen
2019-12-10 11:23
#62
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Sweden Velocityyy 
y
2019-12-10 12:19
#40
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Portugal MR_CAL 
would be insane
2019-12-10 11:23
#50
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Sweden Velocityyy 
+1
2019-12-10 12:05
Doesn't matter, neither team will win shit ever. They might see some semi finals here and there over the next year with some luck, but I'd be surprised to see FaZe or MIBR lift a trophy
2019-12-10 11:28
#44
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
flair checks out
2019-12-10 11:29
horrible pick up of several pretty obvious reasons... 0/8
2019-12-10 11:58
#49
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Sweden Velocityyy 
Tell me why
2019-12-10 12:04
1. bad individual performance 2. completely burned out as an igl, stucked in 2017 meta 3. most likely ridiculous buy out 4. chemistry with cold 5. highly doubt that he will ever leave br scene and his family(thats just my opinion tho)
2019-12-10 12:09
#61
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Sweden Velocityyy 
1. His individual performance has been solid, especially with the awp. 2. Burned out as an igl? I wouldn't say so tbh. You think niko is any better? 3. true, but they got the money for it though 4. i guess 5. idk, i think he has kinda given up on the br scene soon aswell
2019-12-10 12:19
1. no idea which matches are you watching but he sucks this whole year and is worse and worse. 1.02 rating with 0.99 impact this year in big events, 0.97 with 0.89 impact last 3 months and i will not rather even filter stats vs top10/5 teams 2. once again: which matches are you watching? he is calling exactly the same way like he used to in 2016+2017 even tho that it just doesnt work anymore and he isnt able to adapt. you can see it on all lineups that he had last 2 years(even with stew and tarik). niko being better or worse is irrelevant and doesnt make good option from fallen 3. the thing that they have money (we don't even know that) doesn't mean that they have to waste them
2019-12-10 12:32
#83
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Sweden Velocityyy 
So getting in the top 5 isn’t good enough to be a good IGL? I don’t think really any IGL would have better stats with mibr’s team rn than him
2019-12-10 13:52
do you see mibr in top5? because i dont...meanwhile faze was 6th and now 7th in last 2 ranking updates so according to your logic niko is better igl anyway... and once again, how is situation in mibr relevant to this topic and to what i said? he is burned out as igl stacked in 2 years old meta and washed up as a player
2019-12-10 13:56
#101
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Sweden Velocityyy 
He has been top 5 plenty of times not to long ago. And who tf wouldn't be top 7 with the team that FaZe is? Hunden instead of niko would be top 9 with the team that faze is lol. That's retarded
2019-12-10 15:25
"not to long ago" 9 months ago thanks to smaller events without good competition "And who tf wouldn't be top 7 with the team that FaZe is" you mean with washed up players? i could say the same: "And who tf wouldn't be top 7 with the team that MiBR is with players like cold?" he sucks asi igl and sucks as player. your topic is pointless anyway bcs its not gonna happen so whatever.
2019-12-10 15:30
#143
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Sweden Velocityyy 
Small events? So top 4 in a major is a small event? lol. huh? Mibr atleast got into the top 4 and played some good cs while they were back together? for an example 16-2 astralis. Cold isn't even in mibr? My point was that if you have cold, niko and players like rain and olof you should be in the top 5. If not then there is something very wrong with the team. Niko's IGLing isn't good enough. And his aim is also going downhill while he is an IGL. Thats not false. And olof is way to inconsistent with the awp, that's also facts? FalleN with hella experiance and who is also able to manage a world class team while being an awper, which faze also needs, is a great pickup. Faze cant get any worse with this lineup than they are rn
2019-12-10 18:38
"Cold isn't even in mibr" was last 2 years and they were mediocre almost all the time. 1 decent tournament here and there doesnt change this fact. btw faze defeated astralis as well with niko being igl... and funny how you are praising niko and olof in the first part of your post and then you are bashing them right after. fallen is experienced, thats true but that doesnt change the thing that he sucks individually and is burned out as igl nowadays. he WAS able to manage world class team as an awper but he isnt able do it nowadays. like i already said: horrible pick up for reasons that i stated in post 53. and like i already said: not gonna happen anyway
2019-12-10 18:45
#148
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Sweden Velocityyy 
so 2 majors, 13 big tournament wins is "mediocre" lol. He also got a higher rating than olof, while being an igl. How am i praising them and then bashing them? I said that niko and coldzera on the same team with olof should win you tournaments or atleast be in the top 5? So you disagree with that? ouch. If you watch him you can clearly see that he hasn't lost it, and that his strats isn't as nikos strats jsut hitting A on mirage the whole half lol. we all know that fallen IS a better awper than olof, and a better igl than niko, and if you think that niko is better at leading a top class team, then you are delusional lol. Just watch faze, it hurts sometimes. You can't possibly think that niko is a better igl and olof is a better awper than him lol
2019-12-10 18:51
why are you bringing here achievments from freaking 2016 and 2017? honestly stopped reading right there since you are obviously deluded and stucked in the past just like fallen is. not gonna happen, horrible idea anyway. deal with it. bye
2019-12-10 18:54
#150
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Sweden Velocityyy 
that was the last time he had an world class team lol. And you aren't even answering my questions? i guess i won lmao That was easier than i expected
2019-12-10 18:57
he had team+players that he wanted LMAO but sure, blame his team mates and not his tragic strats and his individual performance. you won nothing. honestly my last post, dont even bother with reply. i lost already more than enough brain cells from reading your compeltely stupid wanna be "arguments" so i will not read it anyway.
2019-12-10 18:59
#156
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Sweden Velocityyy 
Olof still got a worse rating lolololol. it's not often people get tilted by winning an argument, so i still feels like you kinda lost this lmao. Yes, he had the team he and cold wanted, but felps was outrageously bad and really nothing you could do with that. Still got top 4 though, which is as good as faze with the superstars they had to work with for a very long time. But why dotn you answer my questions if you think im retarded? Oh wait, i know! because you know you lost and cant really asnwer them lol. I'm starting to lose brain cells raeding your arguments and replies as well.
2019-12-10 19:09
would be pretty good a washed out awper for a washed out team + broky
2019-12-10 12:06
Dont think cold wants to play his system anymore
2019-12-10 12:14
#164
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Sweden Velocityyy 
Rather play under his system than nikos surely right?
2019-12-10 19:38
No, FalleN was the reason cold left mibr
2019-12-10 19:46
#167
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Sweden Velocityyy 
He said himself that it was because he felt unmotivated and stressed with the way they were dealing with defeats
2019-12-10 19:56
he said he completely disagreed with FalleN and fers view on how to play the game, because old man FalleN has not come up with a single new strat since 2017, hes too unmotivated to become a worldclass igl, he has to put in just as much time as all others but no way he will do it ever
2019-12-10 20:05
#171
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Sweden Velocityyy 
Well im pretty sure he also would get a boost in motivation if faze picked him up, just like cold and any other player getting bought to their team
2019-12-10 20:33
Fallen will not leave brazil
2019-12-10 12:19
#63
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Brazil fuNNa 
0/8
2019-12-10 12:20
Actually, why not? It can't really get worse for FaZe and and olofmeister is just washed up. Many may say rain should go first but rain performs all in all better and has (imo) more difficult roles to play ingame. NiKo as the main caller doesn't work (BLAST = Fluke) and FalleN is not only an IGL but also a solid AWPer
2019-12-10 12:33
#82
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Sweden Velocityyy 
+1 exactly my thoughts as well. Can’t get worse for faze than it is rn
2019-12-10 13:50
#67
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India ESPORTSLOADED 
Really bruh, he is a stakeholder in Mibr brand.can't see it happening
2019-12-10 12:35
So was karrigan and cajunb in astralis. Just saying...
2019-12-10 12:45
#79
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Sweden Velocityyy 
+1
2019-12-10 13:46
faze cannot be saved no more
2019-12-10 12:53
He won’t leave his family.
2019-12-10 13:04
>fallen >igl
2019-12-10 13:24
#80
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Israel OKOptimistic1 
yes now Coldzera can speak portuguese to him and will destroy the team 200iq move
2019-12-10 13:48
#91
dycha | 
Poland JKG 
2 years ago this move would make Faze absolute TOP1 (+coldzera +fallen) for a long long time Now fallen is trash awper and even worse IGL (outdated stats, weird mid game calls)
2019-12-10 14:00
#103
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Sweden Velocityyy 
trash awper? lmao
2019-12-10 15:27
#107
dycha | 
Poland JKG 
He is not even the best awper in his team, and it says a lot about him since KNG is tragic with awp at the moment
2019-12-10 15:33
#114
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Sweden Velocityyy 
Well that's retarded. IMO he is. kng is way to inconsistent. When fallen gets the awp they gets results. You should know that if you watch them
2019-12-10 15:46
#124
dycha | 
Poland JKG 
I am pretty sure you still live in 2017
2019-12-10 16:18
#127
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Sweden Velocityyy 
pretty sure you are delusional
2019-12-10 16:31
#128
dycha | 
Poland JKG 
not me, you are
2019-12-10 16:37
#138
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Sweden Velocityyy 
0/8
2019-12-10 18:27
Kng an hen1 will become better awper's than fallen when they start to be consistent and learn how to hold angles, or they just are drakens whit the 30° window
2019-12-10 16:44
Faze mibr
2019-12-10 14:12
#97
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Brazil Cleckzera 
FalleN ain't more the same player of 2016
2019-12-10 14:38
#102
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Sweden Velocityyy 
Nope, not coldzera or olof either. FalleN is defiently a better awper than olof and a better IGL than niko lol
2019-12-10 15:26
#109
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Brazil JMB_17 
Makes sense, but never happening.
2019-12-10 15:36
because cold dont want to play with fallen anymore because fallen didnt care about his inputs and mid calls in the game. cold is resentful with that
2019-12-10 15:40
faze michu vp now buy avangar ))
2019-12-10 15:43
he doesnt speak english
2019-12-10 15:51
what? poland school so bad? even russia school has decent english
2019-12-10 15:56
no but michu's english is so bad
2019-12-10 18:22
i think it would be insane but i dont think will happen
2019-12-10 15:44
#140
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Sweden Velocityyy 
+1
2019-12-10 18:28
#113
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Netherlands Boutdis 
-bot rain
2019-12-10 15:46
#122
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Finland MAAMME_SUOMI 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2019-12-10 15:57
nt fake flagger why not moving whole brazil to faze clown
2019-12-10 16:20
#139
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Sweden Velocityyy 
fake flagger? lol
2019-12-10 18:28
add stewie and kjaerbye and you have team full of snakes
2019-12-10 17:43
Bad opinion
2019-12-10 18:23
#162
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Sweden Velocityyy 
why D:
2019-12-10 19:20
#141
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Denmark Howlite 
nah man MSL will be way better EZ top 1
2019-12-10 18:31
#142
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Sweden Velocityyy 
msl top 1 awper
2019-12-10 18:34
#152
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Russia Alpako228 
cmon FaZe Zeus best awp best IGL
2019-12-10 19:04
#158
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Sweden Velocityyy 
Zeus top 1 awper, rifler and igl
2019-12-10 19:09
#161
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Portugal coremanhd 
PLS YES
2019-12-10 19:11
#163
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Sweden Velocityyy 
+1
2019-12-10 19:28
#170
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Russia Ou7bReaK 
yes
2019-12-10 20:16
#174
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Sweden Velocityyy 
yes
2019-12-10 21:37
#176
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Russia Ou7bReaK 
yes
2019-12-10 22:06
#177
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Sweden Velocityyy 
yes
2019-12-10 22:22
#172
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United States jay_320 
It makes a weird kind of sense. There's a certain amount of irony to me that late 2017 early 2018 Faze/SK/C9 were all so impressed with each other. And literally none of the resulting teams worked out. I mean I guess jury is still out on Faze but I kind of doubt this team is going to be an S tier squad to use Thorin's terminology. As far as I can tell there are a ton of A tier teams and still just two S squads.
2019-12-10 20:38
#173
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Sweden Velocityyy 
i mean faze aint going nowhere with niko's IGLing and olofmeisters unconsistent awping so i think it would be a great pickup for the team. I mean it cant get any worse than it is rn can it
2019-12-10 20:45
wtf, MIBR IS JUST LOOSING BECAUSE OF FALLEN TATICS BRAH, THEY ARE LOST IN THE MAPS,
2019-12-10 22:24
#179
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Sweden Velocityyy 
BRAH
2019-12-10 23:51
#183
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United Kingdom KainZ 
FaZe Disband pls
2019-12-11 09:23
Stop changing faze roster for once let the team stabilize otherwise they would always have an excuse to settle as a team
2019-12-11 10:56
#201
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Sweden Velocityyy 
I don't think mibr have the same potantial as he would have with faze
2019-12-13 02:14
Actually that's a nice call
2019-12-11 10:58
#199
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Sweden Velocityyy 
+1
2019-12-13 02:14
#193
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North America davidbowie22 
Keep niko broky cold Broky the bait for cold Niko is niko Get cadian/msl or any actual igl Get a young star player Niko should be the 2nd star and 2nd caller imo Cold is anchor while broky plays taco and shit roles
2019-12-11 11:04
No thank! MIBR Fallen yes)
2019-12-11 11:06
What Faze need is -Niko and -coldzera
2019-12-13 02:14
#203
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Sweden Velocityyy 
+stefan löfven, +greta thunberg
2019-12-13 02:15
#205
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Brazil goatzera 
Maybe when he became like NEO
2019-12-13 02:19
#206
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Sweden Velocityyy 
the difference is that fallen would actually make a difference in faze
2019-12-13 02:19
#207
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Brazil goatzera 
I agree, I also would like to see it, but I think it's a long future
2019-12-13 02:20
#208
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Sweden Velocityyy 
yeah thats the sad part. The thing is that he is exactly the player they need rn
2019-12-13 02:22
Yeah and add Fer call it bRaZe
2019-12-13 02:26
faze don't invest more money into this lineup
2019-12-13 02:27
If you can get a time machine and get 2016-17 FalleN ,then maybe.
2019-12-13 09:22
#216
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Sweden Velocityyy 
I think that him getting more motivation and drive would be a kickstarted to that. And atleast he cant get worse than niko's IGLing, right?
2019-12-13 13:43
#215
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North America 007DBR9 
-Fallen +MSL
2019-12-13 13:43
#226
 | 
Sweden Velocityyy 
PogU
2019-12-13 19:26
LMFAO. FalleNs outdated strats? Go ahead lol.
2019-12-13 13:51
#227
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Sweden Velocityyy 
Cant be worse than niko's strats, while also having a much more consistent awper than olof
2019-12-13 19:26
NiKo is doing OK. FalleN is struggling like hell and have been for a while. Some of his calls is literally "????"
2019-12-13 20:43
#237
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Sweden Velocityyy 
Have you seen faze lately? Their tactics are garbage. Niko always go A on mirage for an example. Niko with the players he has should be a top 3 team. FalleN with the players he had this year atleast got to top 4, and that was with felps who was inting the whole year lol. FalleN can atleast use his players and do some different tactics, plus being an awper which they need rn
2019-12-13 20:45
Yes i have. Yes obv not having a real IGL is dumb. But adding FalleN is a very very bad idea. Cold just "escaped" FalleN & MIBR lol The IGL FaZe should have added is Aleksib. Or ErkaSt (He got very good English).
2019-12-13 20:49
#242
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Sweden Velocityyy 
I do think that Aleksib was the right choice, but not having a consistant AWPer and not having a real IGL is just not good enough. I think that FalleN would get that drive and motivation if he got that role in FaZe. But that's just my theory
2019-12-13 20:51
FalleN as AWP only? Sure, 100%. But as IGL? Nah. ErkaSt could have been a decent pick.
2019-12-13 20:52
#244
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Sweden Velocityyy 
I don't think FaZe would like to drop two players though.
2019-12-13 20:53
Yeah i know. And tbh i dont think Cold would be happy if FalleN joined FaZe. Imo Rain is the one that should be benched for a AWPer etc. He was a beast a few years ago but just became worse and worse.
2019-12-13 20:56
#246
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Sweden Velocityyy 
I guess but rain does have a very hard role though. It hurts to say it but I think that they have to drop olof if they really want to move forward. But that's harsch also because he isn't playing in his usually role. It's a hard call
2019-12-13 21:07
#220
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Macedonia ydjoon 
bring back Karrigan and promise him a no trade clause so he will come back. Karrigan would make this lineup consistent contenders and winners again. -Olof tho olof will join forces in a new team with GTR Friberg Xizt OLOF and anyone
2019-12-13 14:05
#223
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Sweden Velocityyy 
I don't think karrigan will come back with the team mousesports have rn tbh
2019-12-13 14:48
There are better IGLs out there. MSL is a way better option for this
2019-12-13 14:33
#228
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Brazil rekiller 
fallen will never leave mibr
2019-12-13 19:29
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2019-12-13 19:30
No way it will ever happen. Fallen is untouchable and very important in mibr , so he won't obviously risk his career and if he would do , he would be considered as a rat,coward running away first from a sinking ship.
2019-12-13 20:17
Agreed +1
2019-12-13 20:48
#239
God | 
Russia amc20 
new br Faze lineup
2019-12-13 20:48
No pls don't destroy mibr
2019-12-13 20:50
#249
 | 
Sweden Velocityyy 
true. I doubt he will leave before the major atleast
2019-12-13 21:30
+1
2019-12-13 21:40
+Woxic
2019-12-13 21:08
#248
 | 
Sweden Velocityyy 
W0xic wont leave rn
2019-12-13 21:29
Money money Napolyon
2019-12-14 00:46
Yes - Niko + fallen
2019-12-13 21:30
#275
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India Jazz_B 
Ain't gonna happen.
2019-12-14 20:29
1st Faze is still working in new players so we should at least see a couple tournaments post player break before they make roster moves. 2nd I think the player to bench is Rain. Faze won’t get rid of Niko and I don’t think Niko is willing to give up igl (even though that’s dumb) give Olof some time to get used to the awp and of the goal is really to add more firepower than the role that could use it the most is rains. When he pops off it’s crazy but he has been lacking the consistency
2019-12-13 21:35
#259
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Sweden Velocityyy 
After the major i think its most possible it happens
2019-12-14 00:57
Why not fallen?wtf are you talking about?xD what has he won in the last 2 years?xD
2019-12-13 22:22
#257
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Sweden Velocityyy 
thats retarded
2019-12-14 00:53
thats retarded what?getting fallen?of course it is, they need a young and proper igl but they let aleskib escape probably because of niko ego
2019-12-14 02:40
#261
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Sweden Velocityyy 
0/8
2019-12-14 13:33
Are you capable of saying someting with actual content or thats to hard for your pea brain?
2019-12-14 20:12
#269
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Sweden Velocityyy 
Are you capable of using your brain? Do you actually think that someone is bad just because he hasn't won anything recently? lmao
2019-12-14 20:18
i think he is bad because his tactics are shit and the tried everything and everything and he always blames others, and of course, not winning anything for almost 2 years kinda makes him bad :/
2019-12-14 20:25
the solution is to see a CS Portugues, oh wait.. :/
2019-12-14 21:53
hey look another br retard what a surprise!i never said a pt player was a solution because the pt scene is shit and will always be. the solution to faze is getting a proper igl and a maybe a new coach
2019-12-14 22:14
BUT I SAID LOL.. You don't seem to be able to read properly so I'll end this here :)
2019-12-14 22:16
did you?where?and you guys wonder why nobody likes you, bunch of 0iq retards
2019-12-14 22:24
LMAOOO.. I think you're one of the dumbest people I've ever seen in my entire life, you don't know how to assimilate a simple reading.
2019-12-14 22:25
impossible, you are from brazil, 99% of your population is retarded :/
2019-12-14 22:29
you get over it, i'm 100% sure about that :/
2019-12-14 22:30
Faze fallen would save Both fallen and faze Then taco to furia,-Vini And fer to mouz,-chrisj Kng build a team with lucas and felps
2019-12-14 00:56
#262
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Sweden Velocityyy 
+1, but idk if fer would like to go to mouz tbh.
2019-12-14 13:33
Fallen is trash IGL for 2 years now... Who cares about him
2019-12-14 13:35
#264
 | 
Sweden Velocityyy 
0/8
2019-12-14 18:55
0/16
2019-12-14 19:07
#270
 | 
Sweden Velocityyy 
0/24
2019-12-14 20:19
0/32
2019-12-14 21:53
#296
 | 
Sweden Velocityyy 
0/40
2019-12-14 22:30
#265
fer | 
Brazil Pandapool 
Bringing Fallen to AWP it's ok. HE is struggling as IGL fror2 years, bringing him to IGL in faze is just gonna be a disaster.
2019-12-14 18:59
#271
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Sweden Velocityyy 
Its not gonna be worse than niko. Niko can also focus on popping heads instead of trash strats xd
2019-12-14 20:19
#277
fer | 
Brazil Pandapool 
Are you watching the game RN? MIBR lost to furia with a coach standin. And is losing to VP.
2019-12-14 20:57
#280
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Sweden Velocityyy 
They got a new player one day before the event. If any1 thought they would be top 2 in this event than that person is retarded. Out T sides is trash with a new player. But our CT sides are actually solid when FalleN gets an awp
2019-12-14 21:23
#282
fer | 
Brazil Pandapool 
THEY LOST TO TEAM who has a STANDIN who is NOT EVEN A PRO. Every single event they use the same excuses, "Hey it's early we just added lucas 1 to the team", and after, "Ohh we are gonna improve we just added kng, we need time". Sorry but you definitely are retarded if you think the problem here is player sinergy. 2 years since last tournament win...... yeah you are the definition of delusional fan.
2019-12-14 21:39
#283
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Sweden Velocityyy 
I hope you are baiting, if not then yoo are actually retarded lol. You could say the same that they won vs mouz who got a stand in 16-7. It's the same with almost any team lol, when they add a new player they almost always goes to a slow start. And no, tehy added lucas1 a while back and he wasn't good enough? Who tf said that he was new so they wouldn't ever play well after he has been in the team for 5 months? lmao. Tbh i think you are the definition of delusional
2019-12-14 21:45
#297
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Sweden Velocityyy 
They also is leading 14-1 on this half lol
2019-12-14 22:31
#298
fer | 
Brazil Pandapool 
Early talker hahaha. MIBR tier 5 TIME LIXO
2019-12-15 00:01
#301
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Sweden Velocityyy 
Tier 5? now i know that your trolling lol, cya
2019-12-15 00:25
#308
fer | 
Brazil Pandapool 
sorry. TIER 6
2019-12-15 00:44
FalleN 100 $300 5 3 14
2019-12-14 20:59
#281
 | 
Sweden Velocityyy 
huh
2019-12-14 21:31
LOL NO
2019-12-15 00:02
#302
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Sweden Velocityyy 
why?
2019-12-15 00:25
Losing to OG
2019-12-15 00:25
#304
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Sweden Velocityyy 
G2 almost did that aswell while not having a new player lol. So kennys i trash imright
2019-12-15 00:26
2020 FAZE +Woxic
2019-12-15 00:27
#307
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Sweden Velocityyy 
W0xic wont leave mouz
2019-12-15 00:32
Napolyon:Money Money Money
2019-12-15 00:49
#310
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Sweden Velocityyy 
true
2019-12-15 15:50
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