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OG, ITS OK
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Finland BMW_xseveN 
Its fine OG, we din’t expect much from a lineup full of rejects anyways.
2019-12-12 19:03
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#1
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Peru NotJuan 
+1 OK Gaming
2019-12-12 19:04
lol, OK Gaming
2019-12-13 20:34
#2
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Finland SeaSexAndSunny 
EZ 4 ENCE
2019-12-12 19:04
#75
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Europe sosiska228 
suNny in ence, HARD4ENCE :(
2019-12-13 18:00
#3
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Cyprus Swishh_ 
facts
2019-12-12 19:05
#4
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Austria iVolcan 
valde Issa and aleksiB all are capable of building a top 5, mantuu is a big ? for me barely heared of him but might suprise some guys NBK is basically just here due to his experience
2019-12-12 19:05
#5
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Finland BMW_xseveN 
They all here because they got rejected. Because they suck + no impact. Retire pls
2019-12-12 19:06
Not valde mantuu & issaa. The ones who got kicked are NBK & AleksiB
2019-12-12 19:07
Mantuuu was playing in some t4 shit team so thats basically rejected. Issa was not playing for awhile i dont think.
2019-12-13 13:29
Niko and s1mple were in dogshit T3/2/4 teams aswell are you ok my guy?
2019-12-13 14:33
#64
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Denmark bebm 
NiKo and s1mple were both getting insane ratings carrying their teams to playoffs at t1 events even tho they were on a t2 team what exactly has mantuu done on EITHER a t1 or t2 event? nothing aboslutely nothing dont make that comparison again
2019-12-13 16:18
#50
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North America daesoulae 
og bought him out, thats not rejection. issaa was benched, so that counts more for rejection
2019-12-13 14:33
shows good stuff in lower tier and gets picked up by big org rejection pick one
2019-12-13 16:16
??? NBK got kicked because he wanted to be captain and he was not good with his teammates. Not because of his performance. Even VITALITY was fbetter with NBK
2019-12-13 17:59
#7
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Austria iVolcan 
AleksiB WAS Ence without him u guys would be nowhere near top10 this year and we see it right now
2019-12-12 19:09
#9
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Finland BMW_xseveN 
U joking. Ence is a team
2019-12-12 19:10
#10
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Austria iVolcan 
for 6 months straight inside TOP5 mostly TOP3 and right after Aleksi got removed dropped below TOP10 because they want more exiting counterstrike
2019-12-12 19:15
#12
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Finland BMW_xseveN 
Nope they were in 12 after star series. They never manage to win a title after blast and aleksib had some horrible stats like 0.87 smth like that. Also allu did some calling as well during and after major, if you watch ence vlogs, demos and read the interviews.
2019-12-12 19:19
#15
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Austria iVolcan 
Typical HLTV user, thinks stats are everything, AleksiB might get 1 huge impact kill reset the enemies eco and so get 2 extra round wins, allu gets 3 anti eco kills with awp. 20 iq fan: Allu is way better playing then Aleksi we need more firepower so replace AleksiB. clearly FaZe shows you that firepower is not most important part of a team.......
2019-12-12 19:24
#18
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Finland BMW_xseveN 
hahahhahaa WHAT A pogggers. Aleksib is literally the number 1 eco farm kill player in ence. He plays very flexible therefore he rotates around the map alot and always in position to farm. Do you watch every ence game? Do u read 3rd party stats. Pretty sure it was 62% enemy secondary weapon kills.
2019-12-12 19:29
#24
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Finland Jodecast 
Ja mitä ence on nyt? Himo paska ence kun ei edes voita tier2 turnauksia
2019-12-13 12:59
#52
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Finland BMW_xseveN 
what t2 tournaments? hahaha better position than OG
2019-12-13 15:30
#30
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Finland iBait 
Aleksilla ei muuten ollut edes huonoimmat statsit, PaskaSami ja Arieli harvemmin vetivät edes kahta peräkkäistä turnausta +1.00 ratingeilla.
2019-12-13 13:27
trollaa. anna sen olla
2019-12-13 13:29
+1 Selvin baitteri jota hetkee näkyny
2019-12-13 13:34
#53
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Finland BMW_xseveN 
both of them have more impact and higher kast
2019-12-13 15:31
#62
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Finland iBait 
ImOMEGALULpact
2019-12-13 16:15
#78
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Finland BMW_xseveN 
hahah idiots. Stop reading after flare
2019-12-13 18:05
Aleksib had no impact on ence ence from consistent top5 team to barely top 15 team pick one
2019-12-13 16:18
#79
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Finland BMW_xseveN 
no 1
2019-12-13 18:06
no2 is true
2019-12-13 18:43
#29
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North America 007DBR9 
aleksi and nbk got kicked and then their teams dropped off hard, valde is a god, issa took a break, and mantuu is promising. Give the lineup time
2019-12-13 13:23
#54
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Finland BMW_xseveN 
of course, they drop off, they need time to adjust. they just lost their igls ffs give them time stop hating
2019-12-13 15:32
ENCE has had enough time and still shit the bed. They will never make it and stay in the top with Aerial and xseven
2019-12-13 17:58
#77
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North America 007DBR9 
You're doing the same thing with OG without even giving them 2 days when those two got removed after the major
2019-12-13 18:05
#80
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Finland BMW_xseveN 
not hating, just pointing out facts that ppl cant accept that a tier 1 player can become tier 2
2019-12-13 18:07
#104
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France Pourriture 
+1, too many brainless here
2019-12-13 20:37
i guess u werent heard from zywoo either until he became top player.. even now mantuu seems insane imo
2019-12-12 19:18
#13
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Austria iVolcan 
Zywoo- at the time 16yr old prodigy well known in pro scene for having balls of steel while keeping a cool mind in clutches and popping head of top players with one of the best aim in FPL until a point FPL players got together and called him a cheater and that he needs to get checked. Mantuu- gyazo.com/eb148925d539f0d1af67da1e39510e..
2019-12-12 19:21
...but you hadnt heard from him which is absolutely a fact, which was the point. and dont even try to say otherwise, cuz i know its not true
2019-12-12 19:51
#47
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Finland tiktoklover 
Mantuu has played in shitty tier 4 teams, if he was "nuts" like Zywoo, he would have been noticed and talked about.
2019-12-13 14:30
zywoo was not talked about lmao delusional finn
2019-12-13 18:20
#83
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Finland tiktoklover 
when did you start csgo, yesterday?
2019-12-13 18:32
"YeAh I FoLlOw TiEr 4 TeAmS AlL ThE TiMe, YeS I fOlLoW HiM 24/7" btw 2012 and plz dont reply to me no more, idc about ur shit
2019-12-13 18:41
#94
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Austria iVolcan 
don't try to discuss with a delusional UK fan
2019-12-13 19:34
#97
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Finland tiktoklover 
Cant you tell the difference between the Finnish flag and the UK flag LuL
2019-12-13 20:28
#105
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Austria iVolcan 
I ment that you waste your time tryna discuss with residenz
2019-12-13 23:50
for real he was known by almost everybody by 2018 at latest I remember watching him first time when in aAa. He was so fycking good
2019-12-13 16:19
#42
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Finland tiktoklover 
Issa having a good game once a month
2019-12-13 14:26
#55
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CIS ShimonSS 
mantuu is a good awp-er
2019-12-13 15:34
#8
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Brazil lusketa 
yeah, to their first official match together i think its fine
2019-12-12 19:10
#14
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Finland Neekoh 
Theyre doing REALLY good for their 1st official matches, against such a good team too
2019-12-12 19:23
#16
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Poland MichasBiceps 
ok boomer
2019-12-12 19:24
Issa in the long run will be shiet
2019-12-12 19:26
#19
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Finland BMW_xseveN 
More like visa problems to usa and belgium. Xdxdxdxd
2019-12-12 19:30
xdd yes
2019-12-13 12:57
#20
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Finland Rektiliaani 
chat why ence malding :)) (no trol, serious answers only 4head)
2019-12-12 19:38
give OG some time, and they will wipe the floor with the the Snakez, namely ALLU and AERIAL
2019-12-12 20:09
#25
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Russia kogdato 
Alexib got kicked because he slept with one of his teammate’s girlfriend. But his igl abilities weren’t questioned.
2019-12-13 13:11
Delusional kiddo
2019-12-13 13:32
#40
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Russia kogdato 
Some of the credible sources confirmed it
2019-12-13 14:25
link?
2019-12-13 15:57
source: trust me bro
2019-12-13 15:59
#71
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Russia kogdato 
No one from the team will publicly confirm it. There’re only rumors and inside information. It’s just dumb to think that an igl of a top2 team is kicked for his skills.
2019-12-13 17:52
#70
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Russia kogdato 
A Ukrainian caster and founder one of the casting organizations confirmed it on stream. He said about a love triangle between Alexib, his teammate and his girlfriend.
2019-12-13 17:44
#76
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Poland Adisky 
Stop spreading false info ffs
2019-12-13 18:03
#81
Jerry | 
Russia kogdato 
Why it’s false?
2019-12-13 18:15
#95
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Europe bansku 
its true everyone in finland knows
2019-12-13 19:41
everyone talking shit becouse they lost 2 maps against Mouz who just defeat astralis and fnatic.
2019-12-13 13:15
#27
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Czech Republic Noxar 
yeah and second map was 16-14 actually, so they've nearly won one.
2019-12-13 13:16
#28
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Russia Rapu 
I don't know what you expected. Only NBK was a top player, the other players were not. Even current VP squad is stronger then this mix.
2019-12-13 13:22
Nbk is the worst one smh
2019-12-13 16:20
Nope. I would say 2nd best after Valde in firepower. Ofc he would suck since he will be support player. If they use him as anchor on B bombsites, it can be amazing for their CT side. He can lead CT side B sites very nicely.
2019-12-13 18:37
I think issaa and mantuu have better firepower tbh
2019-12-13 18:43
I think they will show up more but nbk- has more potential.
2019-12-13 18:44
possibly
2019-12-13 18:46
If you had watched the broadcast you'd know that they had less than a month to get SIX maps going. They are pretty much just playing pug style and hope it works somehow
2019-12-13 13:29
#35
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Finland kraekinn 
I humbly apologize for this ignorant Finnish person who clearly doesn't understand that much of eSports.
2019-12-13 13:32
#36
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New Zealand Smeagoll 
still better than trashence
2019-12-13 13:34
+1
2019-12-13 20:31
#38
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Norway CheNaLii 
Lmao dont call aleksib a reject. You know deep inside that ENCE was much better with him than they are now
2019-12-13 13:35
its not even something you know inside its a fact just compare ences ranking and results to aleksib's time in ence
2019-12-13 16:21
Fan of ence :DDDD
2019-12-13 13:40
theyre bad
2019-12-13 14:26
nbk kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2019-12-13 14:26
#44
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Norway Liicewhe 
NBK is outdated at this point
2019-12-13 14:27
they will take summit
2019-12-13 14:27
imagine judging a team based on a single BO2 where they went 16-8 and 16-14 against a top 5 team
2019-12-13 14:29
#48
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Finland Gogito 
how can they be at their best after 2 maps
2019-12-13 14:32
#51
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North America daesoulae 
its their first match wth
2019-12-13 14:34
#58
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United States jay_320 
Imagine forming an opinion on a team after two maps.
2019-12-13 16:00
#59
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Australia I_HATE_MIBR 
go to ENCE'S ranking history. garbage until 3 months later. 3 months with this team they'll be better than ENCE in no time
2019-12-13 16:06
#60
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Australia I_HATE_MIBR 
TBH not sold on mantuu tho should get rid of him for natosaphix
2019-12-13 16:07
#61
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Indonesia lukerey 
I give both OG & Gen.G till the end of march 2020. Hope this two teams find the chemistry and improving as top 15 teams.
2019-12-13 16:10
#68
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United States DervGuy 
+1
2019-12-13 16:20
#72
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Guatemala IceyKL 
I see OG failing at the major qualies. Too many teams that are doing so well that don't have a solid spot in the major. Fnatic, Mouz are two examples. Also teams like Tricked, Heroic and Godsent are pretty scary, but are just decent.
2019-12-13 17:56
You are forgetting Complexity
2019-12-13 18:58
#101
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Guatemala IceyKL 
I saw that in the European rankings, a lot of orgs teams that spent so much money are gonna bomb the major. I would’ve stuck with NA, Maybe Wardell instead of Poizen.
2019-12-13 20:34
Its gonna be a reeeeeally tough european qualifier
2019-12-13 18:58
#90
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Spain akproxx 
How many titles france won without nbk? And how many with him? How many titles ence won with aleksib and how many without him? Valde left north he like top 3 player in denmark in rawskill
2019-12-13 18:56
OG will git gud just wait and see mens OG swagging
2019-12-13 18:58
its funny how orgs are spending hundreds of thousands to assemble an org and the best case scenario is basically getting to top 10 considering how competitive pro scene is right now
2019-12-13 19:43
they are better than ence boyz :( sorry my fin friends
2019-12-13 20:32
i bet finns were hyping og because of aleksib even more than poles because of mantu
2019-12-13 20:32
Ofc I'm still hyping OG, If they suck after 6 months or so, then I will reconsider
2019-12-13 20:35
#106
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Denmark Wolff63 
To all you “wise” oracles: please respekt that a professional OG organisation knows what they are doing! They cherrypicked individuals in who they believe works as a team. Maybee you should sign up for a management position in the OG organisation🤪
2019-12-13 23:58
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1.53
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1.79
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2.00
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2.36
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