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World Frater 
I see a whole bunch of misinformation and nonformation going around on these forums - as usual. Genuinely curious about the UK election? Happy to clear it up for you. EU migrant living in the UK by the way.
2019-12-13 01:07
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United Kingdom HLTV_PATRIOT 
Hltv isn't the only location of misinformation. Ask me btw, I'm prime minister
2019-12-13 01:08
I'd have voted for you, if I could :)
2019-12-13 01:09
United Kingdom HLTV_PATRIOT 
Thanks! Jezza can't stop me anyway, time to get this dub!
2019-12-13 01:11
United Kingdom Megamo10 
boris will lose his seat lol
2019-12-13 01:32
United Kingdom HLTV_PATRIOT 
No I won't, dummy!
2019-12-13 01:38
United Kingdom Megamo10 
nt Ali is coming to fuck your fridge magnet! taha
2019-12-13 01:50
United Kingdom HLTV_PATRIOT 
You were saying?
2019-12-13 08:26
United Kingdom dcrawford101 
2019-12-13 01:11
United Kingdom HLTV_PATRIOT 
Vote Conservative! ☑️
2019-12-13 01:15
United Kingdom dcrawford101 
i have mens))
2019-12-13 01:20
United Kingdom HLTV_PATRIOT 
That's great! #GetBrexitDone
2019-12-13 01:21
United Kingdom dcrawford101 
2019-12-13 01:22
Canada ZHF 
sup Boris
2019-12-13 02:01
United Kingdom HLTV_PATRIOT 
What's up is that I just gained a huge majority!
2019-12-13 08:27
Sup men))) Congratulations in your win. Is was wondering which hair products you use?
2019-12-13 11:33
United Kingdom HLTV_PATRIOT 
Thank you! I just use regular shampoo, my genetics are so good that my hair stays in great health anyway!
2019-12-13 15:45
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Brazil hrp_ 
HLTV isn't a really good place to ask for information about elections..
2019-12-13 01:08
Germany Bundeskanzler 
HLTV is the wrong place to ask questions like that. Most kids here are egdy 16 year old rightards🤣
2019-12-13 01:09
Russia 1922 
2019-12-13 01:10
Sure, but the thread is not addressed at them. A few mature and intelligent people here and there as well.
2019-12-13 01:11
Germany Bundeskanzler 
They are probably asleep at this time
2019-12-13 01:12
i´m also an emmigrant in a nutshell the election has changed almost nothing. Labour failed and conservatives kept their majority Brexit is still going to happen and it´s still going to be a disaster the fun fact is that the scotish prone party has gained power. Meaning if Brexit does happen we´re likely to see a referendum again. This time however the results would probably mean a leave
2019-12-13 01:25
this is based on early projections so these results and conclusions could change if the results change dramatically
2019-12-13 01:28
Scottish party can do shit, Westminster have to agree for another independence referendum.
2019-12-13 01:28
if the uk leaves the EU then good luck stoping a referendum In the face of overwhelming popular demand i doubt this westmister is strong enough to keep the union alive
2019-12-13 01:33
Its around 45%-45% now so dont know where did you find that Scots want an independence so much...
2019-12-13 01:40
More or less spot on, but there won't be a referendum on Scottish independence or Irish reunification because the government won't allow it. Both would most likely result in those region seceding from the Union.
2019-12-13 01:29
see #20 plus Scotland seems more likely to leave the union if anything Ireland is trickier. The whole border thing makes the topic quite sensitive, that being said the most likely scenario is that North Ireland remains in the union and in the EU however that comes with another set of problems
2019-12-13 01:35
#17 is right, though. The SNP cannot really do shit. They have very limited power in Parliament. Irish reunification makes a lot more sense practically and would also be easier politically.
2019-12-13 01:39
i agree with you both i know westminster holds the keys to any sort of independence and said moves would be unlikely it´s however not impossible seeing as - this governament is quite weak and has demostrated they cannot be rellied upon which means that these independence movements are going to keep growing in power and influence. It´s also fair to say that these movements would also be backed by the EU which could prove to be an enticing alternative to the mess that has been the mostly English-run leadership of the UK
2019-12-13 01:51
The government is not weak, though, quite the opposite. The Tories are on course to win the biggest majority in decades (unlikely that much will change once the final result is published). The EU won't make a difference in these referendums and they will not provide significant support to either side. Remember that the EU was opposed to Scottish independence at the time of that referendum. Irish reunification on the other hand would be convenient for the EU due to the customs border issue but again I do not think they would throw their weight behind any such movement. Also, they likely won't need to. Irish reunification in the event that a vote is held is likely even without EU's support. There just won't be a vote.
2019-12-13 01:59
just because you have a majority does not mean you´re not weak. This governament sees a win after being forced to early elections and having their previous leader forced to quit after a clusterf*ck. Yes their current position has semented however as far as strengh goes their road to a strong position is still long. It takes one day to tear someone´s reputation down and much longer to regain this. they won the battle but the "war" is far from over
2019-12-13 02:12
It's not a weak government, quite the contrary as I set out above. You need to understand that Brexit is a nonpartisan issue. The turmoil on Brexit will not settle until the path to Brexit is clear, but this does not mean that the government is weak. Most people just want to get Brexit done so that the country can move on to other issues and this is exactly what today's vote demonstrated (as well as the UK's opposition to socialism and loony-leftism).
2019-12-13 02:40
World Jeza 
Irish reunification is so much further away than Scottish independence it's not even funny, I have no idea what makes you think it would be easier. Like, Irish issues have been some of the most politically difficult and contentious in the entire world, let alone the UK. Not even 25% of the population of N.I. supports reunification at present, and demographically that is not likely to change meaningfully for several decades at the very least. In Scotland at least, they have significant representation in UK Parliament, their own devolved Parliament that is pro-independence, almost 50% support for independence. Compare that to the much weaker devolved Northern Ireland Assembly which has been suspended for almost three whole years because of political turmoil and minimal popular support.
2019-12-13 02:25
Not sure where you get the less than 25% figure from. Opinion polls tend to show remain currently still in the lead while support for reunification is growing year on year. Sure, there is less political impetus currently for the Irish question than there is for Scottish independence, but this can easily change. Keep in mind that it looks like NI will remain part of the EU customs union for the foreseeable future and also remember that NI (as well as Scotland) both voted to remain in the EU with significant margins.
2019-12-13 02:37
Yeah that was 3 years ago. Potentially up to 48% now.
2019-12-13 14:35
World Jeza 
It's stupid to never say never, I agree with that. But I think the underlying issues in Ireland run much deeper. This was a flash in the pan poll over a protest vote issue. Decades of polling show a generic lack of support for joining Ireland overall, although gradually changing. Of course, if the UK economy significantly tanks, then the question will be more pertinent. I still think that EU membership is actually more of a minor issue compared to the Irish border issues. Literally thousands of people have died over the issues in N.I., in an argument that pre-dates the existence of the EU itself by decades.
2019-12-13 16:06
Canada ZHF 
What do people on Twitter mean when they say Boris winning means immigrants are getting kicked out of the UK? Is that true?
2019-12-13 02:02
United Kingdom Megamo10 
just means they think brexit will happen instantly (wrong- it iwll take 3 yrs minimum) and that less immigrants will be taken in because of that. poor, low IQ implies racist
2019-12-13 02:04
actually high iq = racist cry is free
2019-12-13 02:14
United Kingdom Megamo10 
nt favela
2019-12-13 02:15
im not favela me very rich 😎
2019-12-13 02:17
United Kingdom Megamo10 
me too
2019-12-13 02:18
heh, noice 😎
2019-12-13 02:20
Canada ZHF 
2019-12-13 02:38
It's a bunch of xenophobic nonsense - however it was a big driver behind the original Brexit vote. Once the UK leaves the EU (which, as set out by #30, is much further down the line), there will be no more free movement for EU citizens into the UK. In practice, very little will change. EU citizens currently living in the UK will be able to obtain permanent leave to remain (in essence lifelong residency) as previously. Many if not most who have built their lives here will in due course naturalise (I will be doing the same). In other words, no-one will be "kicked out". Post-Brexit, it will be very easy for EU workers to obtain working visas for the UK. First, the UK economy will remain as highly reliant on EU migrant workers as it currently is (although arguably there will be a contraction in demand as the UK economy contracts post-Brexit, as is currently forecasted). The uncertainty of Brexit has already had a big impact on employers in the UK and this is hardest felt by unskilled and low-skilled industries in particular. There continues to be a huge demand in the UK for seasonal workers in particular and EU migrants are best placed to fill these positions. Second, EU migrants are the highest contributing group to the UK fiscal budget. EU migrants contribute significantly more to the UK fiscal budget than people born in the UK (still net contributors) and non-EU migrants (net recipients). Ironically, more specifically, what a lot people do not realise re today's election is that Corbyn is more of an arch-leaver than Johnson. Corbyn has personally always supported leaving the EU due to his protectionist policies, while the Tories have always espoused the benefits of immigration (albeit in policy but not in rhetoric).
2019-12-13 02:28
Canada ZHF 
ty for the info
2019-12-13 02:39
Not at all :)
2019-12-13 02:40
Is there any source how many votes the parties got overall
2019-12-13 08:28
Yeah you can see it here, for example: Scroll down to "National Results". One seat still to be declared.
2019-12-13 11:00
Leftist tears everywhere 😂😂😂😂😂😂
2019-12-13 11:11
Sure - but remember that the effectiveness of the bipartisan system is premised on the presumption of a strong and effective opposition. Even though I (broadly) support the Tories, I am hoping that Labour will sort out its shit sooner rather than later so that there can be effective checks and balances in place again.
2019-12-13 11:53
Great day for the honorable, smart, working and free people. UK will now fall in the leaps of the greatest country ever United States of America and they will create the strongest alliance ever together with all English-Speaking countries around the world.
2019-12-13 16:09
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