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COCAINE | 
Mongolia bozgor 
I thought everyone will be on the right side of history and will vote for the EU, how could this happen? wtf mens(((
2019-12-13 07:07
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#1
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CIS l992 
people have woken up
2019-12-13 07:11
#13
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Netherlands bringithome 
+1
2019-12-13 08:54
#20
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Denmark Menterx 
Yes, and then they take a sledgehammer to the face...
2019-12-13 09:26
#28
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Finland Trashsports_2 
+1
2019-12-13 09:41
The people who voted for it are almost asleep mobile.twitter.com/ulrikeguerot/status/1..
2019-12-13 10:19
#58
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Bulgaria CHAPOLE! 
Corbyn shouldn't have played both sides when it comes to Brexit.
2019-12-13 10:51
Corbyn is a retard, No Idea why He is still head of labour after all the Shit He has done
2019-12-13 10:52
#63
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Bulgaria CHAPOLE! 
What's he done specifically?
2019-12-13 11:01
#119
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Czech Republic Noxar 
exists
2019-12-13 13:03
#137
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United States f1shst1ck 
+1
2019-12-13 13:47
having no clear take on brexit and all that antisemitims stuff in his party
2019-12-13 13:54
#161
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United Kingdom Megamo10 
0/8
2019-12-16 13:00
They've spent years trying to wash their hands of Tony Blair, but instead of creating a good image for themselves they've tried to go to the extreme and gotten themselves stuck with a dry, awkward leader who's reluctant to lead. I can't see a universe where they could've won the election.
2019-12-13 13:51
Same, I cant see a world where they would have won, BUT my problem is that the UK election system is just pure garbage with who gets the seats and with how many people are representated in parliamant just because of their residency
2019-12-13 13:55
That's a fair point indeed. Their system hasn't been updated since the early 1900s while the rest of the world moved on.
2019-12-13 13:57
#70
ZywOo | 
Portugal dipz0r 
That was his downfall. If he just kept saying he would accept the referendum result he'd have a better result. Not sure he'd win anyway cause the establishment hate him because of Israel.
2019-12-13 11:36
#74
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Bulgaria CHAPOLE! 
You're right he was gonna lose regardless, the british media was smearing him at every turn.
2019-12-13 11:44
I don't understand how people think the fact that young people predominantly vote for the left is a sign of their virtue, intellect or wisdom. can you explain?
2019-12-13 11:50
So what?
2019-12-13 12:00
#2
COCAINE | 
Mongolia bozgor 
Megamo why do you pm me, wtf men)))
2019-12-13 07:11
#9
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United Kingdom HLTV_PATRIOT 
LMAO
2019-12-13 08:43
#3
EliGE | 
United States USATOP1 
Imagine thinking the eu is good.
2019-12-13 08:03
#4
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Germany MoBo 
name checks out
2019-12-13 08:08
#5
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Finland autisti22 
yes these visa issues r cool men))))
2019-12-13 08:13
#22
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Denmark Menterx 
Well not good for USA and China, but for the countries in the EU, it is.
2019-12-13 09:27
#40
EliGE | 
United States USATOP1 
Nah. It would be a lot better without the eu.
2019-12-13 10:18
Not really. EU countries economies would be far away from what they are now without eu
2019-12-13 10:20
#68
EliGE | 
United States USATOP1 
Nope. You can have better trade deals without the eu. Sure eu was good back when it started but now it's useless and holding europe back.
2019-12-13 11:31
#85
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Netherlands zuzelmonster 
holding us back from what?
2019-12-13 11:58
Look at his flag, he's fucking scared, he's quivering.
2019-12-13 12:25
#49
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
Would be also better if USA would be 51 nations instead of 1 nation?
2019-12-13 10:30
51?
2019-12-13 11:51
#80
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
oh, its only 50 states xD mb
2019-12-13 11:55
#29
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Finland Trashsports_2 
+1111111111 fuck the EU
2019-12-13 09:42
#6
allu | 
Switzerland Jeded 
EU is un democratic, basically the 4th reich she finally completed what he couldn't
2019-12-13 08:35
#7
plastE | 
Serbia Wule123 
+1000
2019-12-13 08:38
#15
Xizt | 
Finland MeeTaZ 
+1 i can get only so hard
2019-12-13 08:59
#31
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Finland Trashsports_2 
+1 as an old joke goes: "even China is more democratic than the EU"
2019-12-13 09:42
#51
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Ukraine ksay 
4th reich souds cool af though
2019-12-13 10:37
Calling the EU undemocratic LMAO but then you got this i.imgur.com/F6g2Ceq.jpg -> i.gyazo.com/78da767e0120789869dfcde6b2d1.. xDDDD
2019-12-13 13:11
popular vote = populated cities dominating politics. Popular vote is a terrible way to elect people.....
2019-12-13 13:57
No mens, check the %-stats in the gyazo picture.
2019-12-13 14:00
ok i did. and???
2019-12-13 14:50
Leftist tears 😂😂😂
2019-12-13 08:43
Better , maybe now we will finish with this tea - drinker clown fiesta
2019-12-13 08:46
#11
chrisJ | 
United Kingdom snekky 
Right wing nationalism is on the rise worldwide unfortunately
2019-12-13 08:49
#50
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
yea this generation doesn't care about history and, unfortunatly, hasn't seen the shit that comes with it. It's been too long since there was a real war in EU so people forget what a huge shit it is
2019-12-13 10:32
It's a response to the rampant failure that is Globalism, Nationalism is not the cause of both World Wars, it was only used as a tool to get people to fight. Modern Nationalism has nothing to do with that, it's more closely related to Tribalism.
2019-12-13 11:02
Tribalism in 2019 kek We're gonna hook up our collective conscience to a global hub in 20-30 years time, yet your peanut brain talks about obsolete terms Nt Tarik
2019-12-13 12:05
#123
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Czech Republic Noxar 
Yeah, right about the same time money starts growing on trees. I knew Romania is sadly a bit behind, but I didn't know you guys are this retarded.
2019-12-13 13:07
youre an idiot. its amazing you still comment with so much arrogance, when most of what you say is objectively incorrect or just plain stupid.
2019-12-13 11:54
#12
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Finland kraekinn 
Funny thing is that after the initial Brexit vote the most searched term in UK was "what is Brexit?" :D Basically large quantity of the voters didn't even know what their voting for. They did know that it means leaving from EU but they didn't actually know the large scale affects that it will have.
2019-12-13 08:52
#14
Xizt | 
Finland MeeTaZ 
Do i smell globalist pro eu tears?
2019-12-13 08:58
#16
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Finland kraekinn 
I'm quite objective towards EU - i see the pros and cons in it. But to vote against without even knowing what you're doing is utter stupidity as would be to vote for it.
2019-12-13 09:09
#19
Xizt | 
Finland MeeTaZ 
Well, i give this round to you... i see that u are reasonable and can debate and speak without being aggressive, i apologize my earlier use of language my fellow Finn. I argue that eu should be reduced to Free market league as it was intended, not byreocratic superpower like its now, and rolling over smaller countries like Belgium when they voted against eu law...
2019-12-13 09:21
#30
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Finland kraekinn 
Apology accepted :) I do agree EU has it's flaws even major ones but i do see also positive things in it. And i see your point in free market idea and personally support it.
2019-12-13 09:42
#25
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_- 
and you really think those were the people that voted? You think people went to a ballot station, wrote down their vote, then came home and googled what it was for? don't be so moronic, the answer is simple if you just used your head instead of jumping to conclusions
2019-12-13 09:37
#32
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Finland kraekinn 
Basically the thing was that Brexit was made to sound a much better option that it really was and that's why after the vote people started to research it more and that also lead to this limbo where you're right now leave-or-not-to-leave. People voted without having the whole picture basically.
2019-12-13 09:44
#36
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_- 
Well we can agree that pretty much everyone didn't have the whole picture to some degree, but the vast majority of people who voted knew in general what it was. The people googling after would have mostly been people that didn't vote and wondering why all the news channels are talking about nothing other than Brexit.
2019-12-13 09:52
#71
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Finland kraekinn 
Obviously not everyone was aware but the information was already out there what Brexit would mean first of all economically way before the voting. If people wasn't aware - it's not 'cause there wasn't information available and thus voting for something you don't know the consequences for is stupidity and also good propaganda / lobbying. "The people googling after would have mostly been people that didn't vote and wondering why all the news channels are talking about nothing other than Brexit." on what ground you base this hypothesis ? Overall the search times were well above the amount of people who didn't vote. Also did you see the multiple interviews where people after the vote were shocked to learn what Brexit actually means. And lastly you are aware that people wanted a second vote after the first vote bc they understood the consequences ?
2019-12-13 11:37
#73
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_- 
OH people wanted a 2nd vote, is that why in the first election after the brexit vote, conservative (pro-leave) won, then we had an eu election where the brexit party won (pro-leave), then yesterday we just have another vote where conservative won by miles (pro-leave). Where the fuck are you getting your information from? we've had 3 votes since the referendum and leave won every time, how many more times do we have to vote?
2019-12-13 11:44
#83
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Finland kraekinn 
Reason why you keep voting again and again on the same subject ? Obviously if it would be overall such a great thing everything considered why the need to keep voting several times ? I'm not saying is it a good or bad thing to leave EU bc we don't really know since no ones done it before. But have you studied the economic changes that will take place after Brexit and how that will affect UK based companies and their export businesses for example ?
2019-12-13 11:57
#89
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_- 
"Reason why you keep voting again and again on the same subject ?" Because the people that lost the vote have done everything in their power to try and stop it, and because the governments weak majority meant they couldn't move forward without support from the other parties (which is no longer the case) "But have you studied the economic changes that will take place after Brexit and how that will affect UK based companies and their export businesses for example ?" Somethings are more important that money, freedom & democracy is one of them. However, a lot of the better financial institutions generally think the economical impact will be very negligible.
2019-12-13 12:02
this guy doesn't seem to understand that its our incompetent government, not the people who are prevent Brexit from happening. this point about 'people not knowing', has been parroted so many times, always with the assumption that its people who voted and not the large number of children (who coincidentally would also be the most likely to use google) who couldn't or the large number of people who didn't. it is the most empty statistic you could possibly use, and yet somehow its always used to say that the first, second and third votes were all mistakes.
2019-12-13 11:58
#91
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_- 
Yup, and it begs the question, if the population are really as retarded as they make out, why do we even have general elections in the first place? Just put us all in cages and let the elite class rule over us seeing as we're all that stupid.
2019-12-13 12:03
oh were leaning towards. almost everyone I meet who steeped in politics on either side (unlike the average person), lowkey doesn't want democratic rule. I think itll be a couple years before they realise this themselves, but theres definitely a growing anti-democratic sentiment in western politics.
2019-12-13 12:06
#100
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Finland kraekinn 
Check the numerous statistics - these are approximations but back in september only about 25% knew what "backstop" means when it comes to Brexit - almost 90% of the people are talking about "no-deal Brexit" but statistics show that only 3/10 brits actually understand / know what it means. Bout 60% know what the term "hard Brexit" means and a bit over 60% know what "soft Brexit" means. Somewhere around 40% know what “Chequers plan” means when it comes to Brexit. And these numbers are even more worse with the younger population where only 40% of 18-24 yo know what "backstop" is - about 51% know what “customs union” means and lastly a bit over 60% knows about “Article 50”. And these are just statistics made out of numerous polls amongst the "normal" population.
2019-12-13 12:16
source? your stats here are all over the place.
2019-12-13 12:28
also why is 40% worse than 25%. surely it shows a larger number of people know... also idk how you can make an argument that ignorance favours one side, when youre arguing for everyone to be ignorant.
2019-12-13 12:31
#115
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Finland kraekinn 
"source? your stats here are all over the place." I have to get back to this since I've been reading over 10 studies of this - i can make more readable version of the statistics once I've gone through the sources again - trying to remember these statistics out of my mind after 2-3 months when reading these isn't easy. "also why is 40% worse than 25%. surely it shows a larger number of people know..." I mistakenly left a part out of this and i'm sorry for it - the statistics compared the knowledge back in september and now > in september the knowledge of younger population was still about 58% and now it's around 40%.
2019-12-13 12:56
tldr. I wasn't questioning your stats, or even your argument as i somewhat agree that there wasn't much clarity around Brexit. i just wanted to know where you were sourcing these polls, as i generally don't trust polls.
2019-12-13 13:06
#116
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Finland kraekinn 
"this guy doesn't seem to understand that its our incompetent government, not the people who are prevent Brexit from happening." I probably understand it even more than you do. In any of my writings i haven't touched the subject who is preventing what i'm just talking about voters voting for a thing that majority don't even acknowledge the full concept - these are two totally different things. Please read before you comment.
2019-12-13 13:00
" And lastly you are aware that people wanted a second vote after the first vote bc they understood the consequences ?" i did read... btw there have been 2 (arguably 3) votes since then, and they always went one way.
2019-12-13 13:08
#130
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Finland kraekinn 
Okay so make this completely clear - i'm not arguing the voting and how the voting has gone > i'm arguing that it's generally wise that when voting on anything ya or nay it's preferable that you know fully what you're voting for. And the overall consensus is that there were and still is a lot of things that people don't understand around Brexit and the overall consequences. For example the immigrant problem that many people thought is the 'cause of EU which is not correct. A large portion of immigrants still coming to UK are from elsewhere than inside EU and that won't change after Brexit. Sure UK won't have the yearly quota for immigrants that EU supervises and can limit immigrants in the future however they want but i strongly disagree that this will have an huge affect in the long run. And this is just one example.
2019-12-13 13:17
the immigration point, is one ive never heard anyone use legitimately in the UK and was generally used by partisan media outlets to show how stupid conservatives. particularly since conservatives have been complaining about mass immigration since before the refugee crisis. a better example of this would be that the UK thought they would make more money being separate from the EU. as the immigration point was not even close to as strong a factor, and also is a point that is easier to argue in favour of conservatives. while i agree it would be nice if people were aware, the ignorance argument is completely useless, as realistically you can do this for almost every election in most countries. and your point only gets worse when you say "overall consequences"... the whole point is no one knows what the consequences will be but the current state and direction of things (UK has been a set course since the 80s) is not where the UK wants to go... like in every case of a referendum. furthermore the UK has had strong anti-European sentiments long before the EU ever formed and often had arguments about joining any European collectives throughout the 20th century.
2019-12-13 13:35
#138
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Finland kraekinn 
Good points and with most i agree. But now i'm done with this conversation. As an conclusion there are things i strongly agree with you and some i disagree with you and i cherish this conversation - nice to have a good and civil conversation here in HLTV every once in a while. I'd be glad to continue this in person bc it's so much much easier since i speak better than write. But all-in-all i thank you :)
2019-12-13 13:48
no problem, and to be honest i agree with pretty much all your points, just not to the same degree. i mainly just like to debate these sort of things. have good one lad.
2019-12-13 13:50
#17
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Netherlands puddingkip 
British voters as dumb as British cs is bad
2019-12-13 09:11
#18
sodaH | 
Estonia rafio 
britain cant handle the greatness of eu, they gonna end up like usa
2019-12-13 09:15
#27
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Netherlands Im_gaaayyy 
That's why US economy > EU economy
2019-12-13 09:40
#56
sodaH | 
Estonia rafio 
uk will go after canadas oil and take over usa
2019-12-13 10:49
#135
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Finland kraekinn 
You mean how US has the largest national debt in the world and is bankrupted if China stops lending them money ? Then yes their economy is greater than EU's by a whole mile!
2019-12-13 13:45
#139
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Netherlands Im_gaaayyy 
Yes they have huge national debt but in relation to GDP, which is that actually matters, it's not that big. Look at Italy, Greece, Spain, etc they also have a lot of debt, Greece went bankrupt and put the euro in danger. US has more economic growth on average, most important companies and low taxes/regulations. EU has shitty central bank with negative interest rates, quantitative easing and constant flow of money from North to South. Please don't tell me EU economy is superior to that of the US
2019-12-13 13:49
#144
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Finland kraekinn 
Dude US national debt is around 105% of GDP whereas EU's debt is around 80% of GDP so what you're on about ? Agreed that Italy and Greece are in worse situation but Spain is also around 86%.
2019-12-13 13:54
#153
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Netherlands Im_gaaayyy 
Ok still us economy >>> EU economy
2019-12-13 14:27
#154
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Finland kraekinn 
I think this conversation is already done since the first time you provided proof that isn't even correct - so basically your opinion is invalid and uncounted for.
2019-12-13 14:31
#155
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Netherlands Im_gaaayyy 
Hahahahshahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah You're retarded and you don't know what you're talking about
2019-12-13 14:34
#156
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Finland kraekinn 
And i just proved myself :) Thanks for the conversation.
2019-12-13 14:35
#157
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Netherlands Im_gaaayyy 
You think that having "mucht debt" makes an economy bad. What really makes an economy good is how productive people are and how much they can produce in a year. Productivity in the US is a lot higher than in the EU partly due to lower regulations and lower taxes. Which means more money for businesses and therefore more investment. The Euro is contanstly being devalued and isnt even close to being as strong as the dollar, which is regarded as a safe haven for investors. Just wait for the next recession and see who's going to be hit the hardest. The country that has had reasonable monetary policy for the last years and that can cut interest rates when needed to boost the economy or the EU which is has some economies with too much debt, too much unemployment, no economic growth and now adequate monetary policy if needed.
2019-12-13 14:41
#21
f0rest | 
Greece Graecos 
EU is shit. The only good thing we can take from it is peace.
2019-12-13 09:26
#23
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Finland Autisthicc 
your country's shit leaders fucked you and then eu saved you and now you hate eu for saving you
2019-12-13 09:32
#24
f0rest | 
Greece Graecos 
EU didn't save us, they save themselves. If a grexit would have happened, how many countries would have left the EU? :)))))
2019-12-13 09:33
#34
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Finland Autisthicc 
"eu didn't save us" but they literally did though
2019-12-13 09:50
#67
f0rest | 
Greece Graecos 
The point is that you are talking about the recent crisis, I'm talking about way before.
2019-12-13 11:24
this is what happen when you fix someone else problems for themselves they don't learn anything and become even dumber
2019-12-13 09:50
#39
f0rest | 
Greece Graecos 
What problem did they fix exactly?
2019-12-13 10:16
Your economic Problem that started because you were consuming and consuming without having the Money, because you werent producing.
2019-12-13 10:21
#55
f0rest | 
Greece Graecos 
I don't really get you. What did we consume w/o having money exactly?
2019-12-13 10:48
#52
sergej | 
Poland Noxize 
lived under a rock for past few years?
2019-12-13 10:38
#53
f0rest | 
Greece Graecos 
The situation is worse than 10 years ago but thx
2019-12-13 10:46
+1 LUL
2019-12-13 10:28
But if we didn't help, they would just become the new Syrian ciminal refugees
2019-12-13 10:29
#54
f0rest | 
Greece Graecos 
Still waiting for the problem they fixed
2019-12-13 10:46
Not necessarily fixing all of your problems, but at least helping Greece in not going bankrupt and civil wars escalading, no?
2019-12-13 10:50
#66
f0rest | 
Greece Graecos 
Actually, why were we close to the bankrupt? It's all about the euro stuff and the fact that some of our leaders and other politician guys from the EU wanted Greece to be part of it (for historical reasons), even though we didn't want it and we didn't have the economy to deal with it. We weren't even close to civil wars during the crisis, it's been worse the past 2-3 years but obviously no coverage from any other country than Greece since Tsipras decided to lick the EU's balls. Nowadays, how do you want our economy to get back on its feet? Our harbours are sold to Turkey and China, Billioners can invest in Greece and 25% of the money is given back to them by the government. You can buy a house on the internet in Greece even though someone is still living inside (don't know if it still exists but it did). And I won't talk about wages or pensions, 300€ after working his whole life (16 -> 78), not really decent (and cost of life is the same as in Belgium or Germany).
2019-12-13 11:23
#75
ZywOo | 
Portugal dipz0r 
Some europeans have no clue how shitty EU is. Our minimum wage is 600€. Could some of these european lovers live on 600€ a month? After Portugal joined the EU every single economic indicator got worst. It's a decline since. Europe helps countries by lending them money but get repaid with interest. It's just an hoax. Fuck the EU.
2019-12-13 11:46
#76
f0rest | 
Greece Graecos 
+1
2019-12-13 11:47
I don't even know what I'm supposed to answer, that's really sad.
2019-12-13 12:21
Yeah, I mean, we don't really ask for pity but nonetheless we don't like being called lazy, considered our work schedule is still 40hours per week
2019-12-13 12:30
I'm not saying you're ineffective, but getting good work done is in my experience definitely not equal to how long hours you work. I don't believe you can measure it like that.
2019-12-13 13:02
Well, that's not really my point. I do agree with you, the number of hours you put in a job isn't as related to the effectiveness you're producing as people would think. In this case, I meant that people are not lazy and are willing to work as they have to work a certain amount of hours more than others in Europe.
2019-12-13 13:07
#26
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Netherlands Im_gaaayyy 
Shut up stupid fuck. EU is terrible but it saved you
2019-12-13 09:40
#38
f0rest | 
Greece Graecos 
"stupid fuck" :')
2019-12-13 10:15
RIP UK. You'll get poorer and slower in everything now.
2019-12-13 09:52
#46
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Netherlands Im_gaaayyy 
XDDDDDDDD
2019-12-13 10:27
#37
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Spain Minixx77 
this forum is plenty of anti EU threads from mentally retarded kids that they think they cool LOL
2019-12-13 09:54
I mean if you look at the link near the top. objectively its all kids that are pro-eu...
2019-12-13 12:00
#93
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Spain Minixx77 
bro, u didnt get anything about my comment. What I intend to say is that u criticize the EU based on fallacies and stupid comments that r characteristic of 15 years old kids. U are even unable to concrete whats wrong with the EU and what they are doing wrong, so the only choice u have is basing ur arguments in fake news while u watch Info Wars.
2019-12-13 12:04
wow your comment is filled with objectively incorrect assumptions... do you know what they say about assumptions? also the fact you still went on about comparing them to kids, shows you clearly didn't get mine. stay away from thinking kid, its clearly not your strong suit (flag checks out tho).
2019-12-13 12:10
#102
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Spain Minixx77 
u obviously cant say anything about the matter cus u have 0 strong arguments. Proved my point, ty.
2019-12-13 12:21
im not interested in discussing Brexit with you. I just wanted to show you, your arrogance and ignorance. always love it when people call others out for using fallacies by using one themselves.
2019-12-13 12:26
#111
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Spain Minixx77 
yes m8, just think bout if EU is that bad, why the UK is trying to get a deal before leaving LOL Just looking forward u go out with no deal, going to be so funny to see the consequences. Now go watch Inforwars
2019-12-13 12:31
incomprehensible. stick to throwing your shit at walls and shouting "lol" as though you actually made a point. cya kiddyboo. edit- the fact you think the UK trying to establish a deal is a sign of the benefits of the EU and not common practice, just betrays the fact that youre either a poorly educated 20yo or a child.
2019-12-13 12:36
#114
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Spain Minixx77 
"edit- the fact you think the UK trying to establish a deal is a sign of the benefits of the EU and not common practice, just betrays the fact that youre either a poorly educated 20yo or a child." Then explain me why instead of leaving the EU, the UK extended the term to get a deal? U so delusional
2019-12-13 12:42
#44
s1mple | 
Russia Sample_ 
BREXIT is not enough, FREXIT and NEXIT should follow
2019-12-13 10:26
#45
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Netherlands Im_gaaayyy 
+1
2019-12-13 10:27
why do you think EU wants to fuck Britain for doing this?
2019-12-13 12:04
+1
2019-12-13 13:08
The union must be cast back into the fire from where it came, in the fire of luxemburg... only then dark lord Merkel will lose her poweeer
2019-12-13 10:56
#61
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Israel JoustingBunny 
Human nature happened
2019-12-13 10:56
#62
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Bulgaria CHAPOLE! 
Owning the libs to tank the economy 😎😎😎😎😎
2019-12-13 10:59
#69
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Germany Roflcopter234 
ALPHA AF
2019-12-13 11:33
The difference between EU and Britain, is that Britain will always exist, while EU can disband any time. I am not even sure, if they want to leave EU anymore, but they voted 5 years ago yes and now they are not allowed to vote again. 5 years ago, people were misinformed, so that's the reason for everything.
2019-12-13 11:03
#82
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Georgia NikaT 
No lmao? the reason people are not allowed to vote again is because they don't want to, that's why conservatives won XD
2019-12-13 11:57
we have voted twice since then. the only misinformed people are ones like you.
2019-12-13 12:01
#98
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United Kingdom dv-_- 
3 times if you include the EU vote in which the Brexit party won by miles.
2019-12-13 12:15
#125
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Czech Republic Noxar 
Exactly, but left-wing cumbrains are too stupid to comprehend that. Next step after getting Brexit done is to get rid of the fake conservatives and elect actual nationalists, repatriate non-europeans.
2019-12-13 13:09
#72
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Germany Roflcopter234 
isnt there a transition period even if theres a hard brexit?
2019-12-13 11:39
there will have to be, bureaucracy demands it. so many people are making grand and ridiculous claims about whats gonna happen. imo if everyone approached this rationally, Britain would just end up in a similar position to Switzerland.
2019-12-13 12:03
#99
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United Kingdom dv-_- 
If there is a hard hard brexit, there won't be a transaction period, but that won't happen. Currently the transaction period will begin on 31st Jan 2020, and will end at the end of the year.
2019-12-13 12:16
#81
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Georgia NikaT 
it's a new era
2019-12-13 11:56
EU is antidemocratic. Why people in UK should be ruled by the EU parlament that no one knows who they are? Thats the whole ideia of the globalism, make people be ruled by leaders that they can't change, that they can't fiscalize as the ones they vote for, etc. I don't know why people think that a international state it's a good thing.
2019-12-13 12:19
The EU is lead by country leaders, who have all been appointed democratically in their respective countries, 2/8 pretty bad bait tbh :)
2019-12-13 12:29
#126
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Czech Republic Noxar 
??? Reply needs to have actual content. EU is led by the European Commission, which is not composed of country leaders nor elected individuals.
2019-12-13 13:10
you people are so funny :)
2019-12-13 13:11
Heuuu not really. Look at the European Council, Charles Michel has been elected as Prime Minister in Belgium 5 years ago, he is not Prime Minister anymore for 7 months. He didn't run for the European Parliament either but yet he is now President of the European Council since the 1st December.
2019-12-13 13:18
Then tell me how this makes sense mr brazilian i.imgur.com/F6g2Ceq.jpg i.gyazo.com/78da767e0120789869dfcde6b2d1.. very democratic!
2019-12-13 13:12
whats your point here?
2019-12-13 13:39
43% voted party gets over 55% of all seats = 100% of the power seems fair!
2019-12-13 13:40
stick to your representational democracy then, that's ALWAYS effective and fair, Nazi. how stupid do you have to be to complain about the entire structure of a political system because you don't get the outcome you want/ don't understand how constituencies work? particularly when youre not even complaining about a bias or flaw, just saying "its not perfect waaaah".
2019-12-13 13:46
Dont be so mad wtf, your voting system is undemocratic, deal with it!
2019-12-13 13:51
go read up on greek democracy (not the theory but the realities of their democracy) and then youll understand how stupid your point is. plus idk what that says about the UK, if while never living in an actual democracy over the last 100 years, weve managed to never elect a dictator (despite unfair elections) and generally have good support for our elected. while the closest thing to a pure democracy in Europe has elected two. so, since your system is so fair and representative, i guess youre a National Socialist or youre not and you grow up and realise pure democracy isn't functional and that's why we created these things called republics.
2019-12-13 14:01
Not sure if you are baiting or if you are just retarded this is what the german government would look like if we had the retarded UK system i.imgur.com/pit8YKB.jpg LMAO
2019-12-13 14:02
7/8
2019-12-13 14:04
So, the best alternative it's to be ruled by the European Board that they dont vote for? By people on the EU that they dont even know who they are? Yeah, all democratic system has flaws, just like all systems. But that's definitively not a reason to let people be ruled by a centralized European govern that's moved by interests that doesnt match with the interest of the citizens.
2019-12-16 12:58
did you really ask why? bc eu is doing to much shit that has nothing to do with why it was created. Normal humans disslike eu bc it only brings problems
2019-12-13 12:30
Brexit means "british exit" btw
2019-12-13 13:00
#143
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Czech Republic VeryCzechGuy 
because the election system in the uk is retarded
2019-12-13 13:52
why the fuck are you replying this much to my morning bait, what the fuck is wrong with you mens)))
2019-12-14 01:39
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