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dev1ce top #1 2019 is real?
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Brazil Vilarrel 
He had a great consistency, won many big events and had plenty of MVPs. Despite having a rating below others like ZywOo, he is a great candidate to win the best in the world this year.
2019-12-14 20:24
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#1
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France Somefrenchdude 
Carry by his team
2019-12-14 20:29
??? Highest rated on his team
2019-12-14 20:31
#84
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United Kingdom Pandify_Denje 
HLTV users are sometimes even worse than redditors. Dont pay attention. Just look at them whining " caRriEd bY hIs tEaM ". Meanwhile s1mple and Zywoo need their whole teams to bait for them so they can boost their stats. Meanwhile Device dont have this opportunity and have to play with the team. Also , its harder to boost your stats when all 5 players perform good. Yet his rating is much higher than any of his teammates.
2019-12-14 22:21
#94
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South Africa nimmaJ 
So many fallacies in this comment. Whole teams to bait for them? That's just how it looks because their teammates are so much worse. Device plays very similar spots and positions to s1mple and zywoo. Devices team just actually frags consistently. If dupreeh and magisk were fragging like apex and rpk it would look like device is hard baiting them but because they actually get entries it just looks like a solid team. Harder to boost your stats when your team plays good? When your team is playing good you win more. When you win more you have better economy/weapons (device has the AWP way more rounds than zywoo/s1mple). Not to mention winning increases your rating more than losing. Device is surrounded by better players so they make up for his mistakes more which means he doesnt lose as many rounds and keeps a higher rating
2019-12-14 22:33
#109
Boo | 
France mbl4 
+100000
2019-12-14 22:54
"Whole teams to bait for them? That's just how it looks because their teammates are so much worse" This sentence alone displays that you are an inexperienced player who never played in an organized team at a decent advanced level and that u have no clue about a higher tier competitive play at all.
2019-12-14 23:34
you link your faceit or i'll...
2019-12-14 23:36
#116
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Nope that's just you clearly misinterpreting it. Obviously every team uses baiting to get info/kills. The point was that every AWPer "baits" their team because that's how you put the AWP in the best positions. To suggest that all of Vitality is helping zywoo but Astralis isnt setting up Device is moronic. If Vitality's players were playing at the level of Astralis it would look a lot more like an actual team than zywoo "baiting" 4 people. But since they're inferior it looks like the entire team is setting up zywoo every round because hes the only one finding impact. Not to mention zywoo gets more opening kills than pretty much everyone and doesnt shy away from going for early kills when he has rifles or pistols too. To suggest that his kills and stats are purely because of being set up is also moronic, he makes a ton of great solo plays consistently.
2019-12-14 23:44
I somehow agree. S1mple is a baiter tho’. Also The gameplan of Vitality is build around ZywOo. They sid themselves. Device is not being setup The way S1mple and ZywOo is. Not even close. Those two have all of their favorite positions and roles, and Can do whatever they want. Device doesnt have that kind of freedom. Device is by miles The best player in The World. Stats is one thing. Making your team win is another.
2019-12-15 22:30
#159
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Device isnt the only reason his team wins. They have another top 5 player in Magisk. A top 3 entry, and the best IGL and support in the world. Give zywoo and s1mple that and they win every tournament. If zywoo and s1mple actually had reliable teammates the system wouldn't have to require them to 30 bomb to win but unfortunately the level of guardian/flamie/apex/shox requires that. And the fact that they can do it and still make their teams look like top 5 contenders puts them in a different league of players. Device might win out on S1mple due to inactivity/map count but hes not beating zywoo. Way too impressive even winning multiple MVPs in tournaments he didnt win.
2019-12-15 22:41
Delusional.
2019-12-15 22:41
#162
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Clearly not a genius or youd have a real response. Everything I said was true. Device is surrounded by better players and still cant put up equivalent performances. Basic logic says that when your teammates are playing better it allows you to play better as well so Device should be putting up equivalent numbers to zywoo/s1mple if he was on the same level individually. You can consider yourself outargued. Goodbye.
2019-12-15 22:43
Lmfao. I can’t take you serious. You’re a prime example of someone who never would see how wrong he is. Thats why i pointed out The obvious. That you’re delusional. Go see your doc bro.
2019-12-15 22:59
Buddy change your nick from AnalyticalGenius to AnalStupidity, would make a lot more sense
2019-12-16 12:04
"To suggest that all of Vitality is helping zywoo but Astralis isnt setting up Device is moronic." If you watch astralis matches you would know that he plays the bitch role as a t, always going for the entry with the awp or when he has a rifle hes going first to get traded most of the time. Astralis doesnt play around Device, everyone is playing around everyone. You could also consider yourself as outargued, but you will probaly just say that im not right and dupreeh is the entry and bla bla bla even tho stats also support my Statement.
2019-12-16 01:07
#176
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Zywoo goes for more entry attempts than device, than pretty much every AWPer besides like Jame and S1mple who are superstars for the team just the same. hltv.org/stats/players/compare/11893/Zyw.. hltv.org/stats/teams/players/openingkill.. Device 22% of the time hltv.org/stats/teams/players/openingkill.. Zywoo 23.7% of the time On most team the AWPer goes for the most entries because the AWP is a really strong weapon and good at getting picks, often early in the round because that's when theres the most utility to set it up. That doesnt make them the entry player device is definitely trading most of the time on executes/holding angles. You lie about stats without even checking them. Device plays map control roles on most of the maps. When its time to enter sites its dupreeh or gla1ve in first almost all the time on executes. Device logically stays alive for post plants because that's when the AWP can be super strong which zywoo definitely is set up to do a lot as well. The point is both teams do A LOT to help their AWPers get into advantageous positions. It just so happens that zywoo is MUCH better than his teammates than device is. He doesnt have a top 3 entry, top igl/support and top 5 player on his team.
2019-12-16 07:10
Zywoo having the superior stats is undeniable. One thing that is often forgotten is the different level of opponents. Not sure how they are going to balance that out... Traditionally they tend to go with the higher stats, unless they have really good arguments to do otherwise.
2019-12-16 11:44
#177
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South Africa nimmaJ 
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVfn-kIhXYGIB.. Just watch their t side. Gla1ve/dupreeh are almost always making first contact at party/bathroom and magisk entrying over towards b. Device sits cat/bathrooms and looks for trades and ways to play the post plant or use the info gained by those 3.
2019-12-16 08:44
yeah, device who is playing in a team with one of the widest strat books, arguably the best utility usage and are also known to run dynamic awp setups on their CT, is being set up worse than s1mple or zywoo. okay mr "genius". let's also pretend that either s1mple (before guardian's transfer) or zywoo have the same kind of fallback plan device has in dupreeh in case he isn't feeling it that day and decides to stay off the awp.
2019-12-17 05:47
The last part is nonsense. Thats only The teams fault. For Real. Also Shox is just as capable as Dupreeh with The awp. And NaVi has no excuse anymore. Yes they have all you said in The first part. But let me Tell you. Device is one of The players using his utility better than ANYONE. Setting Dupreeh and Magisk up over and over again, and then he will cover up for their mistakes. S1mple can’t even throw more than 2 nades on any map. Zeus said himself that he almost knows no nades. ZywOo is a bit more like Device, but has all The freedom in The World, and a whole team who would sacrifice themselves for him. Device has none of that. Device is opening, supporting, clutching, and cleaning Sites Mid rounds. He is The most versatile player The game has ever seen, thats why he is so consistent. He is The Star og Astralis, yet not being setup as a Star player unlike ZywOo and S1mple. Facts
2019-12-17 17:28
#117
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Seriously unsure how you deduced that when all I said is that zywoos teammates are inferior to him which is incredibly true. Seems like you're just looking for a way to be right instead of having the actual conversation
2019-12-14 23:46
fucking pepega lmao washed up fan
2019-12-15 20:40
Device fits to his team ,and astralis system, w/o that system he wouldn't be so good, unlike s1mple and zywoo
2019-12-16 11:40
But also the system wouldn't work without device. Put zywoo and s1mple there and they will perform worse along with astralis.
2019-12-16 12:54
But only in that system, in skillwise they are better than device
2019-12-16 15:35
Comparing skills is confusing, because if you consider positioning, teamwork and discipline as skills, device is better than both of them. However if you only consider getting impossible frags, then ZywOo and s1mple are obviously better. At the end of the day, winning the game is what matters, and using all of the skills equally is going to win you the game.
2019-12-16 15:54
Only team wins the game, but only player takes top 1 player reward, remember last year? It's individual reward not team reward
2019-12-17 05:23
everything check out
2019-12-14 20:32
Flag, flair and username checks out, LULSTRALIS bandwagoner
2019-12-15 00:30
everything checks out nt baguette
2019-12-14 20:32
Oh look this is another retarded hltv user who legit thinks ecovice is the GOAT 😂 🚗
2019-12-15 00:31
#6
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Denmark simple_0_major 
Everything checks out Zywho 1 tier 1 event Godvice 25 tier 1 event
2019-12-14 20:34
#8
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France Somefrenchdude 
Easiest to win T1 event when you have best team in the World around you
2019-12-14 20:36
#9
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Denmark simple_0_major 
0/8 Device carrying Astralis 95% of the time. Just watch him when his team is bad (2016 & mid-2019) and you'd notice he still has 1.20+ rating Meanwhile Zywho just another aimer pugstar setup and baited by at least 2 of his teammates
2019-12-14 20:38
what you write dont matter zywoo will be #1, he has more MVPs playing for a way shitter team also higher rating if s1mpele got before device 2018, zywoo will before device 2019
2019-12-14 20:39
How many lans he actually played? If he’s top1 hltv ranking is a joke
2019-12-14 20:49
he actually has played highest LAN matches after Liquid and Astralis players.
2019-12-14 21:52
+1 s1mple won player of the year with less mvps and the #4 player in the world on his team. zywoo 2019 hardest carry of any player ever
2019-12-14 21:16
bsdk fake flagger
2019-12-14 21:53
forsaken hardest carry 2018
2019-12-14 22:16
bsdk tera naam dekh. Jackob Singh
2019-12-14 22:17
+1 xD
2019-12-15 00:27
Lul compare zywoo who carry every single player of his team and bring them to Cologne finals , and device who play for the best team in the World and dont even get as many MVP than zywoo
2019-12-14 20:48
Difference is liquid shit all over zywoo and device shit all over liquid
2019-12-14 20:52
what? ZywOo literally shit half of the times on Astralis. Check Astralis vs Vitality stats. If carrying 4 bots vs Astralis is so easy, why don't a guy named s1mple do that.
2019-12-14 21:51
What? 4 major trophies 20 lan trophies compare to 2 lan trophies nice fucking stats
2019-12-14 22:24
#95
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Teams win trophies, not players. Top 20 ranking is like 90% individual performance vs relevant opponents
2019-12-14 22:35
Do u even watch any other sports/esports? Great players all win countless trophies
2019-12-14 22:44
#118
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Nope, teams of great players win trophies. Never has 1 person won the NBA Championship or Superbowl or Stanley Cup Finals, a team does.
2019-12-14 23:48
Errr literally every legends in these sports u mentioned won multiple trophies
2019-12-15 20:14
#144
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South Africa nimmaJ 
You realize Zywoo & Vitality have won 4 tournaments 2 of which were major Big Events in his rookie year and already is tied for the most MVPs without winning the tournament? If we compare his rookie year to the "legends" hes on pace to have more trophies and MVPs than everyone.
2019-12-15 21:20
mofo there are only 2 majors in a year.
2019-12-14 22:39
#110
Boo | 
France mbl4 
Yeah compare stats from 2017 when ZywOo wasn't playing in tier 1 smh
2019-12-14 22:55
You mean magisk and dupreeh ? Because they were far more impactful than the guy who was proclaimed GOAT by plebs like you
2019-12-15 00:32
#145
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South Africa nimmaJ 
MVPs speak for themselves
2019-12-15 21:20
Undeserved MVPs. But gj replying basically a day later. Why not two years after I posted #124 ?
2019-12-15 22:12
#148
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South Africa nimmaJ 
No such thing as undeserved MVPs that's just you being ignorant and biased. Nt tho. Imagine caring when someone replies. No lifing at its finest
2019-12-15 22:21
There is such thing, but tough to get it for such mentally challenged user like you :)
2019-12-15 22:22
#150
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Imagine calling someone mentally challenged with improper grammar. You're an idiot bud. Have fun hating on device because you'll never see success.
2019-12-15 22:24
Oh look, “improper grammar” card has been played. Imagine edit your reply. Just proveing how mentally retarded you is. Oh look, a fucking irrelevant shithead told me I won’t see success, just because I hate all the plebs and users that overrate and overhype device. So I guess everyone should suck a dick of every successful athlete/person (just like you do) to be successful. Lmao.
2019-12-15 22:32
#156
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Didnt read. Keep typing loser.
2019-12-15 22:35
Took a fat L, as usual :) Is that you final reply ? Or are you gonna edit it as well ? Ofc you didn’t. You don’t have brain capacity to read it or write sth like that :)
2019-12-15 22:58
Imagine thinking that just because someone hate a “successful” person because of its dumb fanboys overrating and overhyping him you won’t be successful yourself lmao. Such dumb
2019-12-15 22:57
#171
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Denmark MeToxi 
Actually, its your attitude, your accessive need to be right, and the fact that you think you're smarter than all of the experts who have worked with csgo for its entire lifespan that gives him the assumption that you wont be successful. Or so I'd assume as thats what makes me think it.
2019-12-15 23:25
braindead redditor spotted only redditors get triggered by length of time to reply omegalul
2019-12-16 10:02
#170
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Denmark MeToxi 
Even the experts speak against you. You know, those people who isn't "plebs and shitheads" but actually know what they're talking about
2019-12-15 23:22
what??
2019-12-14 21:56
Couldn't there be an argument that it's easier to stand out and get a great rating if you play with bots? If you have good teammates they will take more kills etc, try to play a game with 4 bots as your teammates and I'm sure you'll top frag.
2019-12-14 20:59
zywoo litteraly bring 4 bots to 3 big events final this year , when astralis play shit , device dont carry them as much as zywoo did with vitality
2019-12-14 21:17
And device play more games against better opponents then zywoo, but I think you're right. Zywoo will be no. 1 this year but it'll be close.
2019-12-14 21:25
go check ratings vs top 5 then rather than arguing and yes sample size is big enough.
2019-12-14 21:48
Won fuck all and talks 😂
2019-12-14 22:25
>Brit >dumb english pick both
2019-12-14 22:40
Imagining using Indian flag 😂 real/fake both braindead
2019-12-14 22:43
imagine being a brit and have audacity to use cs forum.
2019-12-14 22:44
Using fake Indian flag to prevent people from roasting u 😂 and have the audacity to insult others.. nice one Virgin 😆
2019-12-14 22:46
lmao?? get some brain plz.
2019-12-14 22:48
+1
2019-12-14 21:47
#147
f0rest | 
United States veasih 
True
2019-12-15 22:19
#192
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Sweden Trkmag 
+1
2019-12-16 11:59
f0rest top1 dev1ce top2
2019-12-14 20:30
f0rest CS GOAT device CSGO GOAT
2019-12-14 20:48
1.6 > go
2019-12-14 20:49
yes
2019-12-14 20:50
ty mr sipnex
2019-12-14 20:50
#133
flusha | 
Brazil Kanevx 
f0rest top 0, better then top 1
2019-12-15 07:19
+1
2019-12-15 13:25
#7
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India Jazz_B 
Probably Device. I don't think ZywOo will be #1
2019-12-14 20:36
he will, zywoo 4 mvp, device 3 zywo much higher rating, insane clutches and so on
2019-12-14 20:39
2x major, mvp major and much more trophies > higher rating its almost 2020 and silvers like you still dont get it xdddddd
2019-12-14 20:44
thats not how HLTV judge, but why I talk with brainless? Just watch 2018 top 20 ranking and you see its about personal rating and performance in top events, not trophies won device had major MVP in 2018 as well, more mvp than s1mple and 1000x more trophies this year zywoo has more mvp than device
2019-12-14 20:46
comparing 2018 s1mple to 2019 zywoo ahahahahhahahaha are you watching cs since 2019? completly braindead swede, btw i had 100% correct top10 last year but ok kid :D
2019-12-14 20:51
He is braindead „Insane clutches and so on“ Yea let’s judge player by highlights lmao xD
2019-12-14 21:25
#97
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Uh yeah? Clutches are a stat, a pretty important one.
2019-12-14 22:35
Look at his flair and name
2019-12-15 22:35
#157
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Which is why he didnt respond
2019-12-15 22:36
#23
oBo | 
Korea Moms_touch 
Zywoo 1.27 Device 1.23 "Much higher rating"
2019-12-14 20:49
Thats much higher at this level
2019-12-14 20:50
#35
oBo | 
Korea Moms_touch 
Not really. Last year s1mple had +0.1 from device's. 0.04 is not a big deal compared what dev1ce achieved this year
2019-12-14 20:53
How many lans did zywoo play? U braindead Frenchy, if zywoo actually plays against team like liquid/mouse/fnc more often he’s stats would be way lower
2019-12-14 20:53
#38
oBo | 
Korea Moms_touch 
Thats true. Device's opponents were harder. Bc he always play against top teams on grand final.
2019-12-14 20:59
Thats why zywoo get 4 mvps , at Cologne (beating astralis and loses to liquid in grand final) Malmo (beating ence, mouse, navi and loses to fnatic and astralis) Ecs (beating nrg and furia who was good atm) And summit (beating ence and liquid)
2019-12-14 21:11
This is why device have 4 majors 20 lan trophies compare to trash zywoos 2 lan trophies 😂
2019-12-14 22:28
#98
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Zywoo more trophies and MVPs in his rookie year than device had in his...
2019-12-14 22:37
Zywoo have highest rating Big event in 2019 braindead noscener
2019-12-14 21:13
All S1mple=zywoo Top 20 S1mple>Zywoo Top 10 S1mple>Zywoo Top 5 they are equal as well If I remember correctly
2019-12-14 21:28
#61
ZywOo | 
France Qaze 
top 5 : Z : 1.28 R2.0 1.38 Impact S : 1.27 R2.0 1.28 Impact Zywoo 0.01 better R2.0 et 0.1 better impact top 10: Z : 1.25 R2.0 1.34 Impact S : 1.26 R2.0 1.31 Impact s1 0.01 better R2.0 but zywoo 0.03 better impact top 20: Z : 1.27 R2.0 1.37 Impact S : 1.29 R2.0 1.33 Impact s1 0.02 better R2.0 zywoo 0.04 impact stats in Big events 2019 Overall zywoo has more impact and they have same rating (didnt count other parameter) (zywoo has better adr while s1 has better kast and kpr and dpr))
2019-12-14 21:37
#65
ZywOo | 
France Qaze 
forgot to mention zywoo has played 19 more maps in big events
2019-12-14 21:38
Apparently Major doesn’t count 😂 retard Frenchy
2019-12-14 22:27
#54
ZywOo | 
France Qaze 
Look at stats against top 20, 10 and 5 you stupid. Device has way less impact and zywoo doesn’t improve his rating against tier 2
2019-12-14 21:23
Such a shame device don’t play in shitty qualifiers to boost his stats 😂
2019-12-14 22:47
#108
ZywOo | 
France Qaze 
no he prefers farming tier 2
2019-12-14 22:53
No he gets boosted by his far more skilled and superior teammates :)
2019-12-15 00:35
device 1.28 at majors zywoo 1.17 at majors So i guess that means device is 10 times better player than zywoo because he had much better rating at the most important tournaments in 2019? baguette and zywoo fangay detected
2019-12-14 21:01
#39
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United States Tushkaaa 
i wish astralis play in open qualifiers / small tournaments to destroy hopes of tier 2/3/4 teams as well to hunt stats
2019-12-14 20:59
#43
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Estonia MorsAlbum 
not at all, if youre using that argument then why wouldnt you say s1mple? the hltv top 4 for 2019 is #1 s1mple #2 device #3 zywoo #4 elige #5 electronic/magisk (electronic better/stats but magisk a LOT more MVPs and EVPs )
2019-12-14 21:06
Yeah zywoo more mvp than device
2019-12-14 21:14
#53
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Estonia MorsAlbum 
evps are like 50% worth of an MVP and device has a LOT more than zywoo, basically making it like 7 mvps to 4 mvps your baits are so fucking bad u really need to stick around hltv longer and learn how to actually make a proper bait before starting to comment & bait
2019-12-14 21:23
Lol, 50 % more worth haha, you pull that out of your ass Man zywoo got more MVPs, and higher rating so just shut up
2019-12-14 21:35
i disagree s1mple only has 1 mvp and 4 (soon to be 5) EVPs he cant justify top spot, maybe 3 or 4
2019-12-15 22:39
AHHAHA why create this thread now? He play his chance today, dupreeh get MVP Zywoo 4 MVP , device 3 MVP zywoo higher rating also maybe zywoo win epicenter then 5 MVP and maybe 1.30 big event rating
2019-12-14 20:38
yeah, nice major rating btw xD and major trophies btw xD so clueless
2019-12-14 20:45
hahaha "clueless" look 2018 #1 player you think HLTV will change their criteria this year? ahahah
2019-12-14 20:46
????????????? what criteria? s1mple 2018> zywoo 2019 wtf are you even comparing
2019-12-14 20:52
Yeah and device had major mvp and more trophies than s1mple
2019-12-14 21:13
and? can you read? i mentioned that s1mple's top year had been much much better than zywoo's top year
2019-12-16 11:33
Yeah and this year device has 2 majors and more trophies than zywoo, so even better
2019-12-16 11:33
Device was a lot better in 2018 as well and had way more achievements, I think that's a fair comparison.
2019-12-15 07:32
not necessarily 7 mvps device vs 6 mvps s1mple while s1mple on top of every single stat category and over .10 rating advantage s1mple was far ahead of device statistically, 1 mvp advantage is meaningless at that point zywoo 2019/device 2019? it is much closer
2019-12-16 10:06
he did not have 2 majors and major mvp tho +astralis still the best team this year
2019-12-16 11:31
Sorry but who’s actually playing in epicentre?
2019-12-14 20:54
Zywoo major evp btw
2019-12-14 20:50
evp xD ahshaahhaha
2019-12-16 11:29
#81
fer | 
Brazil Vilarrel 
I just wanted to know your opinion, people comment a lot about s1mple and ZywOo but they forget about dev1ce.
2019-12-14 22:17
#13
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Ukraine cyberNet1k 
put ecovice in NaVi/vitality instead of zywoo/s1mple and he will suck
2019-12-14 20:41
#19
shox | 
Korea Jew2K 
Obviously cuz they cant talk to each other
2019-12-14 20:46
Yes, cuz he'd only understand CYKA BLYAT RUSH B
2019-12-14 20:49
You’re definitely brain dead.
2019-12-15 22:37
#14
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United States Tushkaaa 
zywoo ded in first quarter of the year
2019-12-14 20:42
#15
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Canada roylin 
Please no
2019-12-14 20:43
#34
NiKo | 
Europe DRM7MD 
1- device 2- zywoo 100% check HLTV valve confirmed, Source: trust me bro or fuck you
2019-12-14 20:53
He will get it because his team is so incredible and he got a really good role. + he is a great player.
2019-12-14 21:01
unless vitality and specifically zywoo do shit at epicenter, zywoo will still be top 1
2019-12-14 21:19
He is a candidate
2019-12-14 21:20
#52
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Europe Vallon3 
It's between him and Zywho, but I think the baguette will win.
2019-12-14 21:20
65% he will
2019-12-14 21:27
I will say harsh truth. NO. You can dream, but it won't happen.
2019-12-14 21:31
+1, zywoo more mvp and way higher rating hopefully he grabs his fifth at epicenter
2019-12-14 21:38
+1 exactly. ZywOo will be #1 100% and most likely s1mple will be above device as well
2019-12-15 14:12
Zywoo #1
2019-12-14 21:37
+10000000
2019-12-14 21:38
#68
byali | 
Poland j4k4r 
now after device fucked up esl pro league, and was average in blast there is a chance for zywoo. Vitality wins epicenter + zywoo mvp = ez top 1 Vitality doesnt win epicenter, but still zywoo mvp = propably top 1 Vitality doesnt win epicenter, and zywoo good rating, but no mvp = idk, 50/50 device zywoo Vitality bad and zywoo bad in epicenter = top 1 for device
2019-12-14 21:48
I think u probably right
2019-12-14 21:57
ZywOo #1 by far. 1.29 rating vs 1.23 4 MVPs vs 3 MVP Plays with 4 bots and literally best rating by far vs top 5 teams. Device can't even win all of the MVPs from tournaments his team wins, he is not even best half of the time in his team but yeah he is #1 while 2 guys from their team don't even make top 20. device has so many trophies cuz he doesn't need to perform always. If ZywOo fails in one place, his team goes out. Literally shat on Astralis in Cologne, where was device with his 4 Gods, can't even win vs ZywOo and 4 bots.
2019-12-14 22:00
flair checks out
2019-12-14 22:08
And on the next event Device 33-9 Zywoo 22-17 Useless to compare single events and single maps.
2019-12-14 22:38
#75
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Denmark Cleandog 
Sadly not. Hltv has it out for him. Should have been top 1 in 2018. S1mple won 1 tier 2 tournament in 2019 and he or Zy will get is. Bad hltv analysts not taking events and context into account. Astralis play the majority of matches vs the very best whole Zy and S1mple play tier 2 and low tier 1.
2019-12-14 22:02
Man, I would love to see devve top 1 this year, but 2018 was simple's year for sure, he performed insanely vs top tier teams but didn't won anything... Winning isn't that important if you perform far better than everyone else
2019-12-14 22:14
#88
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Poland j4k4r 
But this year vitality won something, reached few tier 1 event finals and zywoo also performed insanely vs top tier teams. Zywoos 2019 was a little bit weaker than s1mples 2018 in terms of rating, but a little bit better in terms of team achievements so far, everything can change in epicenter, if navi wins it and s1mple gets mvp zywoo could even be top 3, but imo there is huge chance that zywoo is getting top 1 this year.
2019-12-14 22:26
I agree, but i'm not sure how many maps zywoo played in comparsion with device, I haven't searched for this, but feel like vitality have a lot of long pauses between tourneys in second half of the year, that can be factor too, we will see. Top 3 would probably be anyways elige, device, zywoo (no order)
2019-12-14 23:00
#83
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Brazil Vilarrel 
I agree with you except in the dev1ce and top # 1of 2018, s1mple has had great results personally against top tier teams. This year s1mple didn't do it, but ZywOo did, but dev1ce's consistency against top-tier teams is much higher than ZywOo's.
2019-12-14 22:20
ahah not its not check top 5 ranking filter big events fool
2019-12-16 08:51
#188
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Brazil Vilarrel 
Wow now that I've seen it. The difference in the TOP 5 is brutal, ZywOo is way ahead of the others.
2019-12-16 11:39
Damn the shot you typed here is one of the most retarded thing ever. Just as retarded as ecovice is the GOAT or LULSTRALIS is a GOAT team. It’s funny how you mention ASTRALIS playing top tier competition (which you got wrong again, as usual), not ecovice. But put s1 and ZyWoo instead of NaVi and Vitality. Delusional.
2019-12-15 00:39
#129
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Denmark Cleandog 
You clearly dont get it. Expected, lol!
2019-12-15 06:35
#130
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Denmark Cleandog 
The fact that you need to resort to namecalling of me ("retarded"/"delusional") and astralis ("lulstralis") only goes to show that you yourself know that you have a weak case or dont understand my arguments. Best of luck with your future postings. I hope for your sake you get your shit together and start thinking instead of reacting with your feelings only.
2019-12-15 07:06
And you found t even counter it which makes the shit you posted even weaker :)
2019-12-15 14:03
#139
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Denmark Cleandog 
You might just improve as a person if I gave you constructive feedback. Your welcome!
2019-12-15 14:08
Not after his poor pro league finals
2019-12-14 22:11
#79
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United States IdolaMochi 
#1 EliGE #2 ZyWoo #3 Twistzz* #4 dev1ce
2019-12-14 22:15
#85
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Brazil Vilarrel 
ELiGE had great potential to be top # 1 this year, his first semester was fantastic. If he had continued the work he had done with his team he would have a good chance of being the best in the world this year.
2019-12-14 22:24
#90
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United States IdolaMochi 
I still belive that he will be #1
2019-12-14 22:27
#91
fer | 
Brazil Vilarrel 
Ok
2019-12-14 22:27
He would deserves that spot but its si close between him device and zywoo , all three deserves the #1 i think
2019-12-14 22:34
#92
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Myanmar ZywooScream 
Easy zywoo n1
2019-12-14 22:28
#112
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Brazil gtaube 
Yes dev1ce #1 Zywho #2
2019-12-14 23:01
And s1mp is #3
2019-12-14 23:49
It will be Zywho Although undeserved
2019-12-14 23:06
The only thing undeserved is the fact that ecovice got carried to so many titles by his far more skilled and superior teammates.
2019-12-15 00:40
Ofcourse device is number one, why is it a question lol
2019-12-14 23:49
s1mple #1
2019-12-15 00:40
+1 numbers never lie. it is too obvious
2019-12-15 14:05
If navi won’t win epicenter
2019-12-15 07:09
See after EPICENTER but probably. Best player of best team.
2019-12-15 07:15
Won less events than last year and maintained similar stats
2019-12-15 14:05
2019 and still people don't know the criteria on which the hltv player ranking is based on. Device will be ranked between #2-#4, most likely #3. Definitely he won't be #1
2019-12-15 14:10
And how do you know that?
2019-12-15 22:33
#168
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Denmark Cleandog 
Because hltv analysts dont know context like best stats at hardest competition, both Majors.
2019-12-15 23:15
device good but not best
2019-12-15 22:30
#169
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Denmark Cleandog 
Yes at 2019 majors he was the best!
2019-12-15 23:16
#166
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Denmark Jonasnhj 
I agree. He is Mr Consistent.
2019-12-15 23:00
#167
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Denmark Cleandog 
At the two Majors his starts are better than anyone else!
2019-12-15 23:14
? Major is not everything
2019-12-16 01:26
#175
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Denmark Cleandog 
No, only like 60%
2019-12-16 05:46
lol Last year he was Major MVP too and didnt get #1
2019-12-16 08:49
#180
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Denmark Cleandog 
Last year S1mple was unignorable ahead of Device in big events. Not so this year.
2019-12-16 09:56
#181
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Denmark Cleandog 
hltv.org/stats?startDate=2019-01-01&endDate=2019-12-31&matchType=Majors
2019-12-16 09:58
zywoo is far better in every possible category, yet people still wanna give an individual mvp award based on team achievements. Astralis is no doubt the best team of 2019 (and of all time), and zywoo is no doubt the best player of 2019 based on performance in big lan events. He isn't some random person playing tier5 lans, he has 1.29 rating for important lan events in 2019. hltv.org/stats/players/compare/11893/Zyw..
2019-12-16 11:54
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