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SolEk | 
United Kingdom Nik0l4yy 
She’s trying to save the world, why the hell do you hate a kid for doing the most she can. Focus on yourself and what you can do to make this world a tiny bit better.
2019-12-14 23:15
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who ?
2019-12-14 23:16
#124
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Germany Ezavg 
ugly fat kid
2019-12-15 11:52
damn why u so harsh about yourself
2019-12-15 12:14
#151
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Germany Ezavg 
nt but maybe im ugly but not fat 😎
2019-12-15 12:50
if Greta is fat ur obese
2019-12-15 13:17
if he's obese then she's literally Jabba the hutt
2019-12-15 14:59
If hes jabba the hut shes literally american
2019-12-15 18:18
She's Jabba, you know gender fluidity
2019-12-15 18:23
#242
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus 
HAHAHAH well played frenchie wpwp
2019-12-16 22:58
Bro that's reunion
2019-12-17 11:06
never heard sorry
2019-12-15 13:17
#174
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Germany Ezavg 
its ok u didnt miss sth
2019-12-15 13:28
i hope all we can do isn't talk about what we can do environmentally on hltv forum
2019-12-14 23:16
she isnt saving anything. she is just dumb, ugly, privileged child.
2019-12-14 23:18
+1
2019-12-14 23:17
+1
2019-12-14 23:17
#6
COCAINE | 
Mongolia bozgor 
how dare you!?
2019-12-14 23:18
only comment worthwhile in this thread.
2019-12-14 23:27
he didnt write it properly though hOw DaRe YoU?!?!
2019-12-15 01:15
despite my young age, idk enough about internet culture to fully understand this. sorry men.
2019-12-15 01:26
np men, have a gud n8
2019-12-15 01:29
ch33rs bud. u2
2019-12-15 01:29
#235
Snax | 
Other c.dallas 
She said it like 5 times in a press conference. youtube.com/watch?v=xVlRompc1yE
2019-12-16 21:25
no I meant his odd way of spelling it. if you would look up a couple centimetres (not irl) you would see I am aware of the phrase.
2019-12-16 21:27
#237
Snax | 
Other c.dallas 
Oh ok, something like this I guess reddit.com/r/PeopleFuckingDying/
2019-12-16 21:56
oh so hyperbole. one day ill actually check out reddit cus so many memes just go over my head.
2019-12-16 22:25
it would've been funny if it wasn't spammed every time there was a greta thread
2019-12-15 13:17
+1
2019-12-14 23:28
#22
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Japan PKcrash 
What makes her privileged? I don't know much about her but isn't she just a climate change activist?
2019-12-14 23:29
She is born by parents that are rich and famous, at least in Sweden. She has enough food to eat and clothes to wear. How dare I!
2019-12-15 00:02
#62
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Europe rushbnoflash 
her mom is a famous oprahsinger and they are rich, meanwhile she is lifted by the left party even though they clash. Also she has the most basic opinions that a 6 year old would say "stop war", "politics are the reason why enviroment is bad"
2019-12-15 00:06
#97
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Sweden crittaN 
didnt her mom quit her job to support gretas "mission"? sounds pretty wholesome to me. Just because someone has successful/rich parents doesnt mean theyre spoiled.
2019-12-15 01:15
If your mom drops her job to support your "mission" you are most certainly spoiled. It may be the definition of spoiled.
2019-12-15 01:31
#144
tarik | 
Brazil GuGa62 
+1
2019-12-15 12:27
#205
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United Kingdom KainZ 
+1
2019-12-16 16:50
#223
Magisk | 
United States JeyyR 
+1
2019-12-16 20:29
Women talking about politics PepeLaugh
2019-12-15 13:18
Her mom has been a cult member since the 70s ofc she supports Greta
2019-12-15 13:06
Just in case you don't know you made a mistake. "Oprah" is the black talk shot host and "opera" is the classical musical.
2019-12-15 02:59
#63
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Kuwait Onlytruth3 
That she can skip school to take a sailing boat accross the world speak in UN meetings?
2019-12-15 00:08
But she has a illness and will never have a real job so why should she waste time in 🏫?
2019-12-15 13:07
#71
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Switzerland hosken 
parents are rich as fuck and they are living in one of Sweden's richest areas
2019-12-15 00:15
her parents are controlled by satan
2019-12-15 13:22
How dare you? 😂
2019-12-14 23:32
but hot boobs
2019-12-14 23:42
fbi here open the door
2019-12-15 00:00
#65
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Kuwait Onlytruth3 
female body inspector? wtf NSA logging u rn
2019-12-15 00:09
shut up ruski
2019-12-15 00:25
+1111
2019-12-14 23:56
#86
vsm | 
Brazil L$F 
+1
2019-12-15 00:47
So what are you doing to make the world a better place?
2019-12-15 00:52
We can just hope he doesn't quit school and sail across the ocean I think we need educated people to survive, and zoomers just won't cut it
2019-12-15 13:09
improve yourself and you'll do your part better than some attention whoring kid sitting in front of the parliament with a sign.
2019-12-15 13:23
#93
Frankie | 
Brazil CR0CR3 
+1
2019-12-15 01:05
#100
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Portugal Dimigue 
+1
2019-12-15 01:21
+1
2019-12-15 11:45
#134
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Brazil Capi___ 
+1111
2019-12-15 12:12
#140
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Iran yashpashar 
+1
2019-12-15 12:18
you talking about yourself eh
2019-12-15 12:31
You forgot brainwashed
2019-12-15 13:08
#199
fnx | 
Brazil __Jun 
+1
2019-12-15 21:46
#207
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United Kingdom KainZ 
+1
2019-12-16 16:51
#250
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United States 7hai 
unlike anluk0 the genius. mwhahah
2019-12-19 11:22
#7
DaZeD | 
Turkey qubeKs 
Can someone tell me who tf she is and why everyone care about her?
2019-12-14 23:20
#15
SolEk | 
United Kingdom Nik0l4yy 
Climate activist
2019-12-14 23:24
at a stretch. tbh I find it insulting to add the word 'climate' into that phrase.
2019-12-14 23:28
Why?
2019-12-15 12:20
because I am a strong advocate for changing our ways and focusing on stable and self-sufficient ways of living. Greta has added nothing to the discussion, in any material sense, and does not make any points based in the science of the issue which imo is the only point to make. I find her to be a detrimental to the cause due to her polarising nature and vapid points, only fuelling those who disagree and encouraging the vitriol and dogma of those who don't. look at comment 30 for full breakdown.
2019-12-15 13:20
#208
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United Kingdom KainZ 
+1
2019-12-16 16:51
#139
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Russia Mike_Shinoda 
crying that we all gonna die because of politicans don't know that it's impossible to prevent all shit in 1 day
2019-12-15 12:18
#8
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Iran CEO_of_mens 
0/8
2019-12-14 23:21
Nobody hates her, we just don't think she's a fucking kid genius to be idolized when she's done absolutely shit but whine about her cause instead of create solutions for it.
2019-12-14 23:22
#13
SolEk | 
United Kingdom Nik0l4yy 
She’s doing the best she can
2019-12-14 23:24
well if whining is the best she can do, well...
2019-12-14 23:26
#18
SolEk | 
United Kingdom Nik0l4yy 
She’s raising awareness
2019-12-14 23:27
no, she objectively isn't. she doesn't make any good points based in the science of the matter instead relying on moral grand standing and emotional outrage in the most useless manner possible. her only addition to this debate is to make it more polarising, by damning and distancing those who do not understand or know the science or issues surrounding our abuse of the climate. while at the same time just encouraging the false moral superiority and emotional fragility of those who are aware. she is objectively adding nothing to this conversation. she is objectively making it more incendiary through her vapid talking points that just inflame both sides of the aisle. she is objectively not calling out the worst polluters. she is objectively a terrible representation for climate activists (as she makes no points regarding the science, she perpetuates the 'Rights' belief that were all emotional crybabies who blame everything on others. and finally, she is objectively adding more to our destruction of the climate than she is taking away (international flights and press meetings add a lot more than useless phrases and tears). she is also objectively representing women terribly in global politics, congrats on setting back optics on female leaders back by 50 years for the half the population in every country. in reality, the 'shes raising awareness' argument is a retarded bastardisation of 'theres no such thing as bad press'. which is obviously not true when it comes to global issues that require global supports.
2019-12-14 23:37
+1
2019-12-14 23:37
Bro now I want to delete my response >.<
2019-12-14 23:39
xdd ty brother, hopefully one day people will approach these things reasonably. but na you should keep it, only reason I have a comment like that is because I consolidated all my other points over the last couple weeks. Hemingway said the first draft of anything is shit.
2019-12-14 23:42
Yeah i honestly think only reason why are people making such a big deal from her is that she cried during her speech + memes about her (hOw dAaRe YoU???). Meanwhile nobody talks about people that actually try and change something like aforementioned Boyan Slat(Ocean pollution).
2019-12-14 23:51
#41
SolEk | 
United Kingdom Nik0l4yy 
Millions of people are more conscious about climate change thanks to Greta, how is this a bad thing
2019-12-14 23:46
show me who? and you clearly either didn't read or understand my point, if you think that just any message is good as long as it promotes your beliefs to more people.
2019-12-14 23:47
#47
SolEk | 
United Kingdom Nik0l4yy 
Just look at protest that kids are organising. Clearly the awareness is growing, especially amongst young people.
2019-12-14 23:50
so basically you have no proof of this aside from confirmation bias. great! you argue as well as Greta, I can see why you think shes effective. fyi- young people are already the ones aware of this... actually ive decided that this is where we are done. you clearly are new to this topic and your ability to argue will end up leading us nowhere.
2019-12-14 23:53
#57
SolEk | 
United Kingdom Nik0l4yy 
Could you explain how is this “confirmation bias”. It’s more like you have it. There are literally hundreds of thousand of people protesting largely due to Greta. And a lot of media coverage which raises awareness a lot.
2019-12-14 23:58
because you have no statistics to support your argument (if you did you would know protests go on all the time). instead, a character has been created to represent an outlook for the mainstream media and because you've now seen this character and all these publications you now think that there are bunch of new things occurring when in fact they've always been going on. its is actually full blown cognitive bias (subjective construction of reality rather than a construction made by the input of objective reality) being fuelled by media. whats great is now were arguing a side point and its semantics. if you actually read and understood my intial points, you would understand how the argument youre trying to make is not only moot, but actively detrimental to actually enacting global change. now please, I gave you a collection of points. you ignored them all and continued with a fallacy (that I disproved in every facet) with no legitimate justification for your belief. seriously, its incredibly clear how shallow your understanding of this debate and global issue is. tbh hypetrain ignoramuses such as yourselves set back the people who have advocated for climate change, 24/7, for the last 150 years (for all the reasonsI gave you in my first comment) and yes it has been going on that long. now unless the first sentence in your comment is a collection of statistics, or an actual engagement with my initial points. then don't bother replying.
2019-12-15 00:16
p.s. I have no issue with Greta. I have an issue with her baseless, pointless arguments and the fact that so many people are championing someone who has no expertise or experience on the matter and who has done nothing material to change that. hence why I love people like Boyan Slat.
2019-12-15 00:37
the only reason why kids are protesting is so they dont have school on fridays organize the protests on a saturday and 95% of the kids wont be there
2019-12-15 11:40
dude europeans are not the problem americans ,indians and chinese are the biggest problem it is easy protesting in fucking Sweden or Denmark go do that shit in India or somewhere in Africa and i will be impressed
2019-12-14 23:49
Per capita most european countries have a higher co2 emission than both india and china
2019-12-15 00:22
yeah cause they have a billion fucking people doesnt change the fact that china is by far the worst offender not to mention that we dont even know if chinese emission numbers are true or if the government lowered them
2019-12-15 11:42
Would you listen to a billionaire family telling you to reduce your co2 while continuing to fly private jets?
2019-12-15 11:45
thats not what european countries do though germany for example has been pushing really hard for reduced emissions in german industries,aswell as closing down stuff like coal in the next few years
2019-12-15 11:48
Exactly and it's good that we continue to do so.
2019-12-15 11:50
Cool story bro, I love how you mention us first and we are far from the worst offenders.
2019-12-15 00:59
damn you just roasted that Brit hard but +1 on the response if i am not mistaking an other kid or young guy (dunno how old he is but should be around 18) invented a " ocean cleaner" and nobody is talking about him
2019-12-14 23:47
EXACTLY, its clear no one is interested in actually solving issues, they just don't want to be blamed for making them worse, or look good enough that no one realises. plus its not even like shes the first or youngest teenager to come and speak about climate change. but shes definitely the one with the weakest argument out of all of them (and that pains me because she just so obviously feeds into the opinions of those who do not think this is an issue).
2019-12-14 23:51
+1 youtube.com/watch?v=JGdS8ts63Ck greta before greta and the argument "i am only a child but i know" in his first use communism in the making
2019-12-14 23:54
#50
SolEk | 
United Kingdom Nik0l4yy 
People are talking about him tho
2019-12-14 23:51
Check out the google search at the bottom: pics.me.me/greta-thunberg-is-a-16-year-o..
2019-12-14 23:53
how dare you? and here is a good dad joke "Greta dont be a Slat" badum tsss
2019-12-14 23:59
She was nominated for Nobel Peace prize... Nobel fucking Peace prize. For what?! For crying in TV?! I´m gonna go cry in TV about how people are dying in Africa... You better fucking nominate me for Nobel prize in Economic Science
2019-12-15 00:13
i will support you in that but the award she got a few days ago the same one Hitler got 1938 and Stalin 1939 and 1942
2019-12-15 00:29
kkkkkkkkk +1
2019-12-15 00:30
#60
SolEk | 
United Kingdom Nik0l4yy 
I’ve read an article about him.. so what’s your point
2019-12-15 00:00
point is, people talk about him wayy less than they talk about some whiny kid Google search results as of right now: Greta Thunberg: 178 000 000 Boyan Slat: 540 000
2019-12-15 00:08
#67
SolEk | 
United Kingdom Nik0l4yy 
Because he doesn’t speak publicly, what do you not understand
2019-12-15 00:11
2019-12-15 00:12
do you not see how your entire understanding of this issue is warped by cognitive bias (more and more im thinking youre bout 16yo and just started to learn about this cus its clear how shallow your knowledge of this topic and the wider world is) which is understandable if you are a teenager bt tragic and sadly typical if youre an adult. overall my last point to you is. don't assume, youll just make an ass out of yourself. your understanding of assumptions and how to prevent them will hopefully grow as you engage in healthy scepticism.
2019-12-15 00:21
This isnt healthy scepticism, your just sinister and can’t acknowledge that Greta is raising awareness on an important topic
2019-12-15 04:01
man just take the L your actually making a fool out of yourself
2019-12-15 11:44
you have no substantive arguments, only insults. That's why I'm right.
2019-12-15 11:55
are you describing yourself. seriously kid, leave this topic and any other complex issues alone till you've developed a little. go ask your parents to break down the conversation we just had, maybe they can help you understand.
2019-12-15 13:28
You’re delusional.
2019-12-15 18:13
uhuh. lets see, the only ones supporting you are people who clearly have no historical knowledge of these issues and are blindly dogmatic in supporting a figurehead. or people who are only capable of insulting or fallacies (not a single person on your side created a reasonable argument. with the closet to coherency any of you reached is the fallacy of 'any press is good press' which I already debunked). while there a similar people on my side who are equally dogmatic. I also have the support of people who have a wide variety of beliefs in this matter (with a lot more climate change activists supporting me than you in our conversation). lets compare and see which of is has a nuanced understanding and which of us is just blindly shouting the same shit over and over. congrats on being part of the new wave of idiots who eat their own. edit- also congrats on finally learning the difference between your and you're.
2019-12-15 18:24
Can’t bother reading another shit storm, maybe I will read it tomorrow
2019-12-15 19:16
if it takes you longer than 5 seconds to read that (as a supposedly native English speaker), then the UK really has become 3rd world.
2019-12-15 21:43
he isn't a native, but that's besides the point. unfortunately, to people who have 0 thoughts about being environmental (example: me) she has drawn attention back to being environmentally friendly. ignoring her polarising ideas the amount of media attention to make people think "environment" and its effect is huge. you may be further in the environmental scene and she might seem to be detrimental from your perspective, but it is true that any publicity is good publicity. the majority of people who disagree with her are people who would never change their minds and think climate change is a myth anyway.
2019-12-16 20:24
but that's exactly my point. she has only temporarily drawn attention back to this issue, and temporary fixes to this issue are not fixes they are pats on the back (which sickens me more than climate change deniers). It is a hype-train. this has happened before and always just ends with people like me left standing alone, with people like the ones shouting at me here walking away with a completely false sense of having accomplished something and being morally superior. its basically champagne socialism (which ironically is exactly the type of people the Thunbergs are). furthermore, as I said many times. I have no issue with Greta. I have an issue with divisive messaging and the vitriol of 'climate activists'. I have an issue with the media ignoring this issue for countless years, despite there being numerous and objectively better role models for this issue. I have an issue with anyone who would seek to insult before attempting to educate. any publicity is good publicity is not at all applicable to a global issue that requires the vast majority of humanity to be on board and actively change their ways before anything changes. and this is provable, look at the introduction of the Medical Corps into the British Army. despite all the scientific proof, tons of good publicity and legitimately ground breaking scientific developments of medicine 50 years leading up the Medical Corps, nothing changed until the culture of the Army changed, and for that you need conscious and borderline universal support (I know this is a very specific case study, but is applicable in a less obvious degree to all other European armies of the time. if youre confused about the connection between these points - global issue = disease and death rates. only thing to change that was practically universal consensus). if this example isn't enough, just look back a couple years when we went through this exact same phase with Al Gore: global protests, hundreds of meetings, thousands of articles... and what? what did they all leave behind? a worsening environmental situation and millions of disgruntled people who were never told any of the science. the thought that people would never change their mind is defeatist. why ever bother trying to argue anything if people don't change their minds, or cant be educated? Also were not looking to convince the hardcore opposition (which is a minor fringe). but her messages put off many more than just those people, and most importantly those who may be undecided or unaware but have a different constitution than yourself. sure its NICE. but is it effective? is it even useful in the long term? has it changed anything? that is what im worried about, and what anyone who actually cares about these issues should be worried about. edit- this is the last thing im going to say on this topic. thank you for being reasonable and not insulting me or my perceived beliefs. Nothing ive said is 'the truth'. this has all been a perspective (much of it not even my own) and as a devout historian, I am happy to wait and watch (I will be doing so optimistically, but critically).
2019-12-16 21:15
if you wanna reply, just message me.
2019-12-16 21:09
final thing, regarding the publicity angle. if that's true then why did the US pull out of Vietnam? why have numerous companies collapsed after bad reports? why can you link the loss of profit in companies directly to negative press (as long as there are no other factors, obviously)? how come a single report caused thousands to not vaccinate? the concept (of unknown origin) only has use when it comes to the public sphere and showman. never the scientific or economic spheres.
2019-12-16 21:23
also if, hopefully, im proven wrong in the future and things do actually change. then what does that say about humanity (and for this I appreciate your honesty regarding your lack of interest, so hope that you specifically can answer this), if a historically and long-term dominant scientific consensus doesn't have as much impact as a child condemning you?
2019-12-16 22:32
let me say that i am a first year student and currently have to do essays for climate change (since it is required for my science course). i still have a lack of interest. it could be anybody, it doesn't matter whether they're young or old, on a platform to get noticed. i still remember a time when environmental activists took over an oil rig near russia. i would say humanity has a short attention span. nobody really wants to spend time reading and reading up on stuff, even if it would affect future generations, when there could be (for themselves) more enjoyable ways to spend their time. that's why any voice coming out or media coverage of environmental issues is good, it reminds us and if it keeps going more and more people will start to accept and change.
2019-12-16 22:53
idk what the point of your first paragraph was. but overall, it seems that you didn't understand my points (edit- or chose not to engage with them). the only thing ill say in response is that in your last point, that is a monumental IF.
2019-12-16 23:08
yes, ofc. and i dont know either, just thought i should add that it's not a case of not knowing whats happening. thats all. at the end of the day my attitude is the same as a lot of others. you may have a lot of points, but the majority of us just know that something needs to be done at the back of our minds. i would guess my attitude reflects humanity in that i glaze over your points. we know. we just don't care that much. honestly it's just my opinion against yours (the publicity point). there's nothing to gain because i don't disagree with your other points.
2019-12-16 23:19
"we just don't care that much." I wholeheartedly agree. which is why I believe what I believe regarding Greta and what I view as a phase. as such, I think we should push for more inclusive and educated messaging to ensure that it becomes a staple of human thought rather than a dormant fear that awakens every decade or so in an explosion or incoherent emotion. I should have said this from the beginning. but my original diatribe (comment 30), was hyperbolic. particularly denying the obvious fact that people are discussing this issue. thank you for restoring my faith in the people championing her, as people capable of civil discussion. have a good one.
2019-12-16 23:42
you're so in denial lmao
2019-12-15 00:28
Maybe that is because its clear that he invented something that is good and amazing and everyone that reads it understands it, but if Greta holds a speech a million people start to cry about her or about waht she says and that creates coverage. The only reason we are still talking about her is not that nobody knows about what she says, its about the outcry to what she says. In the end the people that keep giving her attention are "at fault". Also its wierd to compare these 2 as they are doing 2 very different things. Due to the attention probbly more young people get into it and start making inventions. Saying that words do nothing is disrespectful to every activist that used their speech to get awareness and talk about certain things. Such as Martin Luther King, John F. Kennedy, Ghandi or Charlie Chaplin ( youtube.com/watch?v=-HA8kSdsf_M).) To make my on standpoint clear: I think Greta is obnoxious and as ketamphetamine already said, she doesnt add much especially for those that already care and know about the problems we have and we dont have. But besides not liking her, I still think that have alot to do. One must be blind to just act like human made global warming isnt a thing. Scientists talked about it for decades and warned. The only reason their predictions arent fully true is that we already did alot to do better and we did not keep pumping more and more shit into the atmoshpere as they expected back then.
2019-12-15 00:29
+1, though I do disagree with the thought that you can compare MLK, JFK and Ghandi (don't know much about Chaplin tbh) with Greta. While I do agree with the need for discussion and the very obvious power of words and representation. I think the topics discussed by those three were moral and empirical issues and so could only be argued through the power of words. While issues surrounding our abuse of the environment are practically objective. which is why I dislike the emotional rhetoric of anyone in a field, such as this, that requires unity over division (which her rhetoric encourages). furthermore, imo those activists opened dialogues while the people who champion Greta actively shut them down. all in all, I have no issue with Greta. I have an issue with media outlets that have done nothing to promote these issues prior to her arrival. I have an issue with anyone who damns the opposition rather than attempting to educate them.
2019-12-15 18:16
Yeah I basically agree with everything here.
2019-12-15 18:17
You are so much better than than that fucking moron who called her a "dumb ugly privileged kid" You articulate your position, you make arguments, you put some fucking brain into it. And yet most HLTVers suck their own dick as if they are edgy and "brutally honest" when they make nonsensical insulting comments like the idiot mentioned above. I would be so much more inclined to listen to people from the other side of the political spectrum if they generalized less, ad-hominemd less, made more rational instead of emotional arguments and so on and so forth. But they dont. So even though I might disagree with you a bit on Thunberg, thanks for not being a waste of air and time.
2019-12-15 12:29
He is being a waste of air and time, as are you, you pathetic clown.
2019-12-15 14:57
Since the degeneration of reasonable discussion on hltv, people like him are still worth their weight in gold. Its better to have people who at least attempt to make good and more compex arguments than people who go "greta dumb ugly autistic therefore climate change is a hoax"
2019-12-15 17:16
best part is I am an avid advocate for climate change activism and actively promote people enacting change in my day to day life. I just don't think Greta is the messiah and believe that if we want to fix these issues we need to get as many people on board (which is why I dislike divisive messaging, which I believe she relies on).
2019-12-15 17:45
Did Greta start a movement where millions protest for change or not? Did the amount of cliamte change relatd coverage in the news increase after Greta or not? Did politicians increasingly start talking about the issue or not? Did all the attention Greta brought to the issue increase awareness on a braoder scale or not? Did she make some ignorant people rethink their position? And lastly, was the urgency to act communicated well enough by news, politicians, scientists, etc etc before someone like Greta came along? I'll answer that one: No it fucking wasnt. You are dumb as fuck, like all the other faggots with superiority complex whining and complaining.
2019-12-15 12:33
congrats on adding nothing to this discussion. congrats on not having a single metric to support any of your points. and youre clearly new to this topic if you think this hasn't been discussed consistently over the last 30 years (all you kids act like Al Gore never existed, fucking spend 5 seconds googling the topic before acting like youre familiar with it because you saw a 16yo cry and say nothing). has Greta actually caused any material change in politics? no. have politicians increasingly started discussing it? no. show me all the meetings and/or committees that have been created or organised solely because of Greta. pretty sure everythings going on as normal, except now theres a 16yo girl as a poster child. this is what I meant by cognitive bias with the English guy above. just because you were not aware of something before doesn't mean the rest of the world wasn't. just because you didn't give a fuck about climate change before doesn't mean it wasn't a consistently and heavily discussed topic amongst people in power. show me how politicians have increasingly discussed this topic. without just linking to newspapers. show me how shes increased awareness of an issue over a 100 years old. without just linking to newspapers. show me all the ignorant people who shes made rethink her position. without just linking to newspapers. I want polling and other forms of statistics. and finally, no. I mean Christ if what she said made you change your mind, you are an idiot. she doesn't make any intelligent points, nor does she add anything to the discussion. hence why I said she is simply polarising and a lightning rod for uniformed children who don't actually care about this topic but are jumping on this bandwagon cus its popular. also great job on not contradicting any of my points. just reframing some of them and saying that your beliefs are correct. finally cus I know youre not gonna be able to actually develop this argument (just like the Brit who committed to smashing his head against a wall). I don't give a fuck, if you think im 'dumb as fuck' when I clearly have the overwhelming support of any who isn't dickriding a 16yo or denying obvious science. its nuance kid, look it up.
2019-12-15 13:14
residentsleeper. noone cares about ur pointless rant.
2019-12-15 13:23
idk what that means child. and looking at the length of your first comment, you clearly do. you just don't have any actual points...
2019-12-15 13:24
Okay boomer. I listed all my points. Where are your points retard? Al gore? Seriously? Thats your argument for there being a debate in the past 20 years? I watched an inconvenient truth in school you dumbfuck. It was the first and soon after the last time for the next 10 or so years that I got involved in the topic. Yes, the movie increased the public awareness, understanding and sparked some debate. Greta is todays inconvenient truth times ten. And you are sitting here writing paragraphs full of NOTHINGNESS as to why that is not the case. Grow the fuck up you delusional old man.
2019-12-15 13:39
reply needs to have content. what is it with children and not knowing how to have a discussion? fyi theres a difference between a boomer and a child. and seriously you and the Brit are just typical cases of cognitive bias. cant wait for all you dickriders to move on in 5 months without having changed a thing. p.s. leaving people, who actually care, to try and consolidate support. hence the Al Gore reference.
2019-12-15 13:57
nothing you say has merit or makes sense. "everythings going on as normal except greta is the poster child" yeah, FFF are nothing. ok I get it retard. you are dumb as fuck. you are arguing for nothing and everything you say is logically flawed. try leaving your basement sometimes. get some fresh air maybe?
2019-12-15 14:02
you probably had a few too many amphetamines is my guess.
2019-12-15 14:03
from beginning to end, the most coherent points you've made are insults. you failed to provide evidence for anything. you failed to contradict my points. in reality you failed to engage with my points in anyway, aside from insulting them. im interested explain how everything is logically flawed. im very interested in this. forget about all the other points. demonstrate at least one of your arguments. wow a hashtag, im sorry, you've done so much. im sure Indian, China, American, Russia and the numerous other global powers will bow down to your internet trend. I cant believe you actually told someone else to leave their basement after only using a hashtag as evidence for your arguments, from beginning to end its clear you learnt your social and thinking skills from twitter... come back when you've stepped outside of your parents house for the first time.
2019-12-15 14:13
where is your evidence of anything? I dont see you linking a single study or any of the numbers you demand from me to back up your statements. bit of a double standard dont you think? So I am gonna ask again: Did greta start a movement that involves millions of people around the world protesting for change or not?
2019-12-15 14:56
every devent human who has a working brain knows the evidence behind what ketamphetamine is taliing about. you are the one who is talking shit. you are the one in need of evidence to support his "claims"
2019-12-16 16:48
every devent human who has a working brain knows the evidence behind what SyrianRefugeefromGhana is taliing about. you are the one who is talking shit. you are the one in need of evidence to support his "claims"
2019-12-16 16:53
well, you clearly arent a devent human that has a working brain, that much is clear
2019-12-16 16:54
No reply as expected from dumb as fuck shittalker
2019-12-16 16:57
shittalker? I told you what it would take for me to consider your points. you failed to respond to any of my points let alone support the ones you've made. so I decided to not even read yours. I have no intention of beating your head against a wall.
2019-12-16 18:41
look at comments 195 and 184, then go wash your face and never speak to me again.
2019-12-16 18:44
look at comment 183 and answer the question and your whole idiotic narrative will fall apart.
2019-12-16 19:49
tldr. come back in 2-5 years.
2019-12-16 19:57
look at comment 183 and answer the question and your whole idiotic narrative will fall apart.
2019-12-16 20:15
in an open debate everyone would laugh at you with your retarded claims, "a 16 yo with asperger set back women across the global by 50 years" of course someone as dumb as you would run away from proper confrontation, loser
2019-12-17 01:52
never mind, I saw what you said to someone else and don't bother replying to me "she changed everything"... delusional. you may as well join her on stage and cry, without actually making a single point. imagine responding to a collection of someone's deconstruction of a situation by asking them for their points. are you illiterate or blinded by your tears?
2019-12-15 14:19
#183
2019-12-15 15:07
#206
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Indonesia Broomfact 
+1
2019-12-16 16:50
Yeah you can also call it raising awareness but at the end of the day she didn´t change much. People will not listen to a kid unless she A) Has a degree in Climate Studies & Meteorology or B) Is known for creating solutions like The Ocean Cleanup by Boyan Slat
2019-12-14 23:37
The left has pushed studies of many many many people with those degrees and nobody really cared, if they didnt already. But somehow if a little girl raises her finger, people are outraged. I dont like to defend her because I cant stand her, but thats exactly the point. People did not cre, so now you have a little kid crying about it on TV an at least people talk anout it.
2019-12-15 00:32
well they talk but many don´t do anything. many people will just get enraged by how nobody does anything about climate change and then just carry on, not contributing to lowering of the carbon
2019-12-15 00:50
Thats a very fair point and I totally I agree to this. Especially older people wont really change anyways, its about encouraging young people. Also I think its not fair to act like she is the puppet of X. Literally every famous person is getting promoted and financed by companies at some point. And obviously those companies wont be from the oilindustry, but from companies that profit. It literally happens everywhere and it so weird how people hold it up to here but pretty much noone else. I think she is capable of going to the internet and reading about those "accusations" and acklowledging, that certain companies sponsor her speeches and promotion etc. If she actually cares about climate change, this must be amazing for her to be able to do that in that age.
2019-12-15 00:56
imo the young people can change so much regarding the climate change, but they must have united idea of what to do. It must not turn into a mess nobody understands + they also must have solutions to stopping climate change, otherwise climate activists will be just laughed at.
2019-12-15 01:12
You realize that most of these climate scientist don't get funded unless they speak in favor of the left's agenda?
2019-12-15 01:04
yes
2019-12-15 12:50
She changed everything, idiot. You know who changed nothing? You, by being a retard on hltv.
2019-12-15 12:34
I like your nick +1
2019-12-15 12:49
I agree with you there are smart kids in world that do not talk I mean kid in Africa made electricity for his whole village I thing you should praise this guy more that ppl who just talk. As you see all world politicians just talk and nothing is ever changed
2019-12-15 12:02
+111
2019-12-16 22:56
Save the world? You can’t save the world if it’s already fucked
2019-12-14 23:22
#12
SolEk | 
United Kingdom Nik0l4yy 
I said she is trying
2019-12-14 23:23
Unless you are a complete moron, you would agree that climate change is real. Everyone agrees, except Americans. What the world need is science and not a 16 year old informing the debate. She is as fucked up as climate change deniers. She is saying that the world is gonna end in 10 years unless we all live in poverty. Professional CSGO would die, because flying would be forbidden. TV and Computers would be limited time only. Third world countries would never have a chance to develop. The list goes on and on. She is mentally ill, but mainly her parents are sick for not telling her it will be alright. Give the cunt a hug, i guess that what she really needs.
2019-12-15 00:11
#11
Aleksib | 
Egypt Tywin 
I just hate how media is showing her down everyone throats. Who cares what a child thinks about issues that she cant understand?
2019-12-14 23:23
#14
lynxi | 
Sweden lyNxiiii 
brainwashed by parents for a quick money grab 200iq
2019-12-14 23:24
#16
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Brazil dolox 
She's sick, she should be treating herself, and in school, the fucking globalists use her. She can't answer a question, everything she says is recorded. It's unbearable to see her forcing a cry to touch people.
2019-12-14 23:26
Tell me one thing brother, how the fuck does a 11 year old understand the climate model scientists are using? She doesn't even know calculus properly. So she's being activist just because some group of scientists say our world is about to end. It's just a propaganda mens, I work in the field of computational mathematics and FYI, the climate model doesn't even involve SUN! Even some NASA scientists have spoken about how awful it is. Also, to end with a fun fact: Average temperature during the medieval period (5th century around) was higher than what it is today! Were we producing CO2 back then? It's all a part of natural cycle mens. It depends on sun's magnetic activities and in recent photos, you can see a lot of dark spots on sun showing increased magnetic activity. This is why she is dumb. She is just a propaganda machine.
2019-12-14 23:31
#32
SolEk | 
United Kingdom Nik0l4yy 
So should I believe 99%+ of global scientists or some Indian guy on hltv
2019-12-14 23:37
Don't believe anyone. Their research is publicly available, the only downside is you need to have a good knowledge of Numerical methods to understand it. Also, if you want to know views of MIT professors or some NASA scientist interviews, you can search "The great global warming swindle" on youtube and watch it :). They will also explain how they get this illusion of 99%+
2019-12-14 23:39
This link to be specific: youtu.be/oYhCQv5tNsQ It's a little long, but if you are worried about man made global warming, I'll highly recommend you watch it in your free time.
2019-12-14 23:42
tbh im an advocate for climate change, but you do have a point in that the perceived consensus of scientists is very overblown. furthermore, if you look at climate change arguments historically (its been going on for over a century despite what most people believe) you can see that sensationalism is never the way to go.
2019-12-14 23:45
<<Apologies for off topic reply>> You write in a very persuasive way. I've read your few other comments as well. I often struggle to share my thoughts properly in English. I've scored 116/120 in TOEFL but still, I struggle quite frequently. Any tips? I really want to improve my writing skills.
2019-12-15 00:37
im a native English speaker (grew up in London) so I probably don't have the best methods for developing these skills. however, I would say that reading philosophy books helped due to the complex sentence structure nd because the entire book is usually about arguing a point. aside from that im not sure. nglish was my mothers 3rd language and despite learning it at a young age and living in England for over 20 years she never reached the same level as those who grew up using it. however, she was also more familiar with some of the building blocks (particularly grammar) than myself and family members who were also native because she was actively taught it rather than having it be basically subconscious as with most native English speakers (since we are taught the building blocks at such a young age). if you want some good books ive readthat will have an indianversion, look up Lala Lajpat Rai (only indian philosopher im very familiar with). his 'young india' is both an interesting read and argues well, plus it will have notes by the translator (usually) meaning you can compare the two linguistic forms AND how they bridge the gap. the only other good pointer I have is immersing yourself in the culture of whatever language you want to learn because learning it from school (unless its at a university level) will usually not teach you how to use said language in an every day manner (particularly in English which has the biggest vocabulary in the world). plus a dominant feature in my family is 'debate' so ive been arguing since before I had any actual points to make. edit- thinking about it some more. really the most useful thing was simply learning more words. words are the foundation upon which we learn and express ourselves, the more words you have the stronger your foundation. simply googling a couple words of words (obviously more complex ones than simple adjectives or nouns) a day is the most basic way to exponentially increase your ability to use the language. sorry bout the weird missing letters or joined words, my laptop has started bugging out.
2019-12-15 01:02
Thanks man. Regarding vocabulary, I've read Walter Lewin's word power made easy and it has helped me to some extent. I'll also try reading philosophy books.
2019-12-15 01:13
np good luck with everything man.
2019-12-15 02:53
Less words, more actions, Greta
2019-12-14 23:32
id fuck her.
2019-12-14 23:33
she’s underage men wtf)))))
2019-12-15 12:07
im underage
2019-12-16 16:28
Idk if you are baiting or propaganda works.
2019-12-14 23:34
imagine thinking that she reached everything by herself If I go next to my school tmrw and chant about climat change, billions of people will not talk about mr shrood as a game changer my school police will just kick me out and tell me to go home someone promoted her for their personal needs and they just use her as a puppet
2019-12-14 23:34
#56
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United States sorcrcrc 
"school police" wtf
2019-12-14 23:57
ok security but they have similar uniforms with cops
2019-12-15 00:10
i.imgur.com/sWc8R0d.png At the very best she's a good laughing stock.
2019-12-14 23:35
This +1 I've seen meme with fkin greta and kids from Africa that was a way better
2019-12-14 23:48
+1
2019-12-15 11:43
Greta is a retard child actor. her parents are abusing her and using her image to push an obviously political agenda... the same thing they did with those fgts in the school shooting a couple years ago. They're just whiny and have no real concept of what the problem is or how to get to the root of it. Climate change isnt real anyways. Pollution is real though, and if you want to yell at people for pollution then you need to talk to 3rd world countries and china and the middle east. Those are the turds who ruin their environment and slash and burn their own rain forests. Read a book. Stop drinking the kool-aid.
2019-12-14 23:45
unexpected smart comment from NA user
2019-12-15 12:17
she just say actually she dont do nothing just say , ridiculous kid say is easy do that is hard so that make she ridiculous and ridiculous
2019-12-14 23:49
#55
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United States sorcrcrc 
im a leftist but greta is hasnt done anything but see an opportunity to grab a lot of attention and take it, she isnt "trying to save the world" shes trying ro get attention and money
2019-12-14 23:56
Soros is proud
2019-12-15 00:19
Hitler also thinks that he tried to save the world, whats ur point?
2019-12-15 00:31
Yes, and now EU has to feed Polent now. Thanks Hitler.
2019-12-15 01:45
Feed Polent? Dude learn some history because Hitler sent invite to Poland to join his forces but we refuse it thats why he attack us at the begining and destroy. Next thing is if not our resistance on eastern front i think Hitler could conquer whole Europe, keep in mind he lost war on east, not west or south where he dominates. Hitler came to Norway 9th April and 10th of June he got 100% of your territory so dont talk bullshits dude coz u embarrasing urself and ur country and get info about Narwik battle. World War 2 was crime against humanity and its not good to mock about country that lost the most, i know mentally you choice to show white flag as you did but no Poland, its was our choice, sin and we are still proud of it.
2019-12-15 22:59
So original
2019-12-15 04:03
Dude you are blind. You just dont know how the world works.
2019-12-15 00:32
#94
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Portugal Agricultor 
yeah dude, she's trying to save us from dying in 12 years
2019-12-15 01:12
her mom is a famous oprahsinger and they are rich -> She says that her life is ruined. she's not going school anymore and just crying to media -> more crying how nobody does nothing I would respect her IF she studied something that would help us to stop climate change etc. But right now she is just crying how "nobody is doing nothing!! cant you see im not going to school because of it!! You can't say how people is not doing enough work to fix climate change, if you drop out of school and cry in media. It's not like i can quit school, fly to madrid and cry how i want weed to be legal for everyone while im drinking whiskey in jacuzzi. Elon Musk wanted easy way to pay bills -> He was helping with creating paypal Greta wants to fix global warming -> She cries in social media #29 i.imgur.com/sWc8R0d.png
2019-12-15 01:22
White girl 1st world country problem.
2019-12-15 01:47
She is right though, there soon to be a huge overpopulation, many people drive diesel cars and fly to work like most eatern europeans, you can clearly see smog and co2 levels rising is big cities like LA for example, many asian and indian cities... give it another 100 years and many countries will be fucked entirely. Humans are the cancer on earth and there is nothing we can do about it, except few dictators and another genocide.
2019-12-15 01:49
Swedish version of h1tler
2019-12-15 11:43
Pffff there is solution for everything I mean we do a lot of shit wrong. But she can't change anything coz our leaders are shit and don't do enough es long as we have profit as religion we will not ever save our planet. It's basically impossible
2019-12-15 11:45
How is she saving the world? She is raising awareness for something everybody knows about. We can’t stop global warming as it is periodic due to the sun. This isn’t the first time the earth has warmed a lot morons, even without humans. Sure we can reduce damage and outputs but we can’t stop jack nothing. GeT_ScHOOLED.
2019-12-15 11:53
#127
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United States not_fbi 
you mean the girl who has chairs and tables for around 100k? "you stole my childhood" LMAO
2019-12-15 12:05
Since when is mental support saving the world
2019-12-15 12:06
Shes a communist and i dont trust commies
2019-12-15 12:08
I am her twin
2019-12-15 12:09
#251
JW | 
Finland Ilucs 
I thought you were banned
2019-12-19 11:29
Nt greta
2019-12-15 12:09
naturalnews.com/2019-08-30-nasa-admits-c.. But yeah, countries spend not much enough for that bullshit, so what are you gonna do? That's correct - send a crazy child to break the news, the more sheeps talk about it - the better. I'm surprised Greta is not a black lesbian transgender - you know, to draw even more attention of stupid cunts that love to feel guilty.
2019-12-15 12:10
that's a pretty terrible source :D
2019-12-15 12:31
#136
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Poland LeNootNoot 
2019-12-15 12:14
#137
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Russia Mike_Shinoda 
she don't know anything about politics and climat just crying would make anything
2019-12-15 12:15
0/8
2019-12-15 12:19
#157
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Brazil trollzeraBR 
my brother, most of people that hate greta is a kid or teenager and adults not smater than a door
2019-12-15 13:11
just a puppet from leftists and lobbys who make money with her. The way she is being used its impressive
2019-12-15 13:14
not with her , ON HER , and that's a big difference. She has fcked up future already.
2019-12-15 13:17
totally agree
2019-12-15 14:17
she's brainwashed kid , brainwashing people like u by people who will make money on it. How cruel is that , doing that to kid , who can't even defend. Her future is fcked up already. In other hand ,leftist world is so funny if u take a closer look on what tf are they doing ,cuz of stupidy ruling their reality. :)
2019-12-15 13:18
because she and her parents are brainwashing young innocent kids with their propaganda. its the same as when ISIS brainwashed kids to join them with propaganda. Im not a Trump supporter at all and frankly I couldnt care about the politics in another country, but I will support him any day of the week in his "beef" with Greta Shitbird
2019-12-15 13:20
Except she does absolutely nothing apart from scream and global warming isnt the biggest threat out there right now, we should deal with problems such as microplastic pollution instead. Greta doesnt deserve to be in the spotlight, but ofc she is since the left if pushing her to promote their agenda.
2019-12-15 13:22
#176
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Latvia melnraksts 
because she only names problems, without naming a solution. /close
2019-12-15 13:43
#187
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Brazil danielm09 
There's no point in hating her. Of course she's not a genius or the greatest expert in climate change (she's only 16). The thing is she's speaking up for the future generations, she's trying to raise awareness about the climate crisis (which is real, the data are proving). I don't understand why people talk shit about her and stay quiet about big corporations that damage the environment in order to make money for only a few families. We should take care of our planet and Greta is asking for us to be environmental responsible so that future generations can live in a good place.
2019-12-15 15:13
#194
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Europe laczyslaw 
HOW DARE YOU
2019-12-15 18:20
Please enlighten me how she is saving the world. This girl has neither actually understood the scientific background of the effect of CO2 on global warming nor does she know how economy works.
2019-12-15 23:00
#203
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Israel Eleo2k 
It's a shame. Scientists and researchers that actually come up with solutions get almost 0 recognition, but a young puppet who only whines over and over again get's all the recognition.
2019-12-16 16:47
#252
JW | 
Finland Ilucs 
+1
2019-12-19 11:33
Yea keep eyes closed monkas. Sorry those not taking her serious are stupid or just careing about their own economy. Not just kids talking about this, also scientists and studies proofing she's right. “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.” ― Albert Einstein
2019-12-16 16:54
#228
Magisk | 
United States JeyyR 
English: 0/10 Speech: 0/10 Quote: 3/10
2019-12-16 20:43
Agreed with an OP.
2019-12-16 18:34
>Save the world >Work for Soros Pick one
2019-12-16 20:17
I don't hate Thunberg. I hate all the fuckers that "like her" so they don't have to do shit about anything at all. Siiting there feeling this little girl is gonna save the world for them. "I'm not a leader", she said. Ok, then step the fuck down and make it an actual movement instead of a personality cult. Send someone else to the UN, the various events around the world etc. She wants to be a leader but still claim she isn't. I don't give any respect to that kind of idiocy.
2019-12-16 20:21
its actually fucking crazy everyone at my work is like "OMG we must support greta and everyone who talks against her are psychos who shouldn't speak out in society" All while these people are the exact same ones who need 3 vacations a year flying everywhere, buying the newest cars every 2-3 years because the "old" one was getting old lmaoo they also think swapping out their car to an electric one will save the world they dont even fucking know producing an electric car harms the environment for longer than they will be alive everything is just hypocricy. I just watch sports and CSGO tournaments and live my own life with my family
2019-12-16 20:27
Exactly. "Buying" themselves a clean conscience by being so fascinated with this young girl instead of doing anything at all. It's delusional
2019-12-16 20:31
i have saved up alot of money, but i still buy 2nd hand clothes because i like it sometimes i find Hermes blazers and Moncler jeans, and sick Timberland shoes or some Bally bags and stuff in thrift stores i've lived in australia, scotland, all of scandinavia, south east asia - and I always buy 2nd hand because its awesome. sometimes at small village markets i find tshirts for literally 0.20 cents from Texas Rangers MLB season 1995 and stuff, vintage funny sports memorabilia you can't buy even if you try And I dont act like I am trying to save the world, but I still do much more than the ones who yell out about it everyday like fucking donkeys My family was always middle class, and we saved everything to save money - not environment, but we did save the environment alot without thinking about it. While these fuckers buy cheap ass H&M clothes that can't take more than a few months of use before throwing away because of holes or because of fashion then they go buy more and more clothes, completely forgetting about how these clothes are made by people in shitty conditions, and sent all across the globe with a plane or boat somehow they still completely ignore the simple things, but want to save the world by NOT using plastic straws in mcdonalds lmaoo this world is lost bro
2019-12-16 20:39
Fwiw the "why don't you do something yourself?" argument has some merit but isn't gonna help at all really. The vast majority of our problems need to be addressed by legislation. Like how my country isn't gonna allow the sale of plastic cups, plates, forks and knives beginning next year. Or how supermarkets only sell plastic bags that are made of recycled materials and bump the price up a bit so people start thinking and acting differently. That's what works. Legislation. Not scolding people for not putting their used cans in the correct recycling bin. (also; about the electric cars. Those batteries are pretty messy in production but on an overall lifetime an electric car doesn't pollute as much as a conventional model)
2019-12-16 20:45
#225
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Netherlands zuzelmonster 
the way she is doing it!
2019-12-16 20:32
#226
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Georgia Broozman 
who cars
2019-12-16 20:36
Your stupidity is unbearable
2019-12-16 20:45
She has mental problems
2019-12-16 21:05
#244
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United Kingdom SLurSs 
She's useless, she is talk not walk
2019-12-16 23:03
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