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Vegan diet!
Belgium drcasual95 
all the ppl saying u feel better on vegan diet, dont u think it comes from eating more plant based? so if u just put in a steak or two it would be actually the same wouldn't it?
2019-12-15 00:18
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homosapien are omnivores, people who eat purely plants or meat are retarded
2019-12-15 00:20
Not
2019-12-15 00:21
#4
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Kuwait Onlytruth3 
*not smart
2019-12-15 00:22
Just because you can eat both doesn't mean you have to.
2019-12-15 00:48
Doesn't mean you don't have to
2019-12-15 14:04
#69
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Iran CEO_of_mens 
+1very smart
2019-12-15 14:13
That argument would only work if we had to be omnivores. We don't, so it's okay to be vegan. But idk about just eating animal products. I'd rather eat an orange than calf liver or sheep brain to get vitamin C. And I know many people struggle getting all the nutrients on a vegan diet, but it's not like people are having well balanced diets normally anyway.
2019-12-15 00:52
#15
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Hungary mEZENCEphalon 
hf finding B12 in plants
2019-12-15 00:55
There are plenty of vegan fortified foods with B12. People in general already take supplements like Omega 3. It comes more down to what you eat. All studies show vegans are healthier than non-vegans, but that's because they care more about their health, not BECAUSE they are vegan. It always depends more on what you eat.
2019-12-15 03:00
#36
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Hungary mEZENCEphalon 
tell me a plant with B12
2019-12-15 03:14
"vegan fortified foods" google it
2019-12-15 03:34
#46
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Hungary mEZENCEphalon 
not an answer to my question
2019-12-15 03:40
#53
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Finland jakem0n 
Even if he would give you an answer then you'd say "source: your head" so just go and google it already.
2019-12-15 04:39
#57
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Hungary mEZENCEphalon 
he wont give one cos there isnt.. its that simple
2019-12-15 13:57
This is so stupid, people go vegan because it's better for the environment and animals don't get killed or harmed. If all they have to do is take pills or eat fortified foods (which non-vegans people already do) then I really wonder why your argument is relevant.
2019-12-15 14:01
Yeah, it's better for environment when most of your food comes from abroad. Best way to be eco friendly is to eat as much locally grown food as possible
2019-12-15 14:05
Fun fact, the top 10 000 biggest ships have polluted more than all the cars in the world combined.
2019-12-15 14:10
And that is why I eat mostly locally grown food)))
2019-12-15 14:12
#65
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Hungary mEZENCEphalon 
what argument????? I asked you to name ONE fucking plant with B12.. thats all but you're too ignorant to answer ONE single question oh one more: do you have any idea why/where you need B12?
2019-12-15 14:14
How old are you? 13? Did you understand anything I said? It doesn't matter if plants have B12 in them. Non-vegans eat fortified foods, so why can't vegans do it too?
2019-12-15 14:15
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Hungary mEZENCEphalon 
I asked you to answer ONE single question. Not two, not three but ONE. Yet you cant do it. Guess who's the 13yo here... (I give you some help: plants dont have B12; B12 is present in the C1 transfer and very important at the erythropoiesis and if you lack B12 or intrinsic factor or bad B12 transport you'll get megaloblastic anaemia) One more try: name a plant with B12 in it.
2019-12-15 14:21
why does it matter if you can find B12 in plants or not?
2019-12-15 14:27
#88
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Hungary mEZENCEphalon 
I want him to answer
2019-12-15 14:27
I think he overestimated your age
2019-12-15 14:27
#90
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Hungary mEZENCEphalon 
yeah 12 btw problem?
2019-12-15 14:28
No, I can't. Happy now? It doesn't matter. Non-vegans get B12 from originally non-B12 sources so why can't vegans do the same? Who's dodging the questions now?
2019-12-15 15:14
Thank you for your answer. See it wasnt that hard. "Non-vegans get B12 from originally non-B12 sources so why can't vegans do the same?" - what are you trying to say here? maybe I have potato london but I legit cant get what you wanna ask
2019-12-15 15:32
I didn't like your taste in music on another thread, but on this one you are right, there is no real "B12" in plants. The supplements are fake and you can't live like this for many years without getting problems. B12 is only in animals, cause it's made from some bacteria shit that doesn't exist in plants. I'm waiting for an answer too!
2019-12-15 14:15
#82
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Hungary mEZENCEphalon 
Thanks you bratan! Hopefully he answers in this century. I have no idea why he can't admit there isnt any B12 in plants.. probably it would hurt his vegan ego.
2019-12-15 14:23
"B12 is only in animals, cause it's made from bacteria" – hmm, interesting. Say that again but slowly... But no B12 is naturally made in your gut, it's just that to be healthy we need more of it. Most farm animals are given B12 supplements because we fucked up the nutrient density in the soil.
2019-12-15 15:29
humans are not animals?
2019-12-15 15:36
Bacteria are animals?
2019-12-15 15:55
they are organisms found in animals to give B12 in this case. not in plants.
2019-12-15 17:26
2019-12-15 18:21
"B12 is only in animals" Do your research and then come back.
2019-12-15 15:51
#50
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Malaysia kaiske 
I haven't heard of a plant called "vegan fortified foods"
2019-12-15 04:32
#56
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Hungary mEZENCEphalon 
+1
2019-12-15 13:56
Nor have I heard of an animal called "B12 fortified foods". Back in the day B12 deficiency wasn't really a thing among humans. B12 is created by bacteria. After industrialization we added it to animal food (plants btw) so they could eat it so we could eat them and get B12. None of you have made a single argument, it's crazy. Expected from 12-15 year olds.
2019-12-15 14:06
back in the day people weren't vegans, so of course there was no B12 deficiency
2019-12-15 14:17
Let me explain it for you so you can understand: B12 used to exist in large amounts in the soil because of bacteria and cobalt rich soils. Due to industrialization, soils have lost a lot of nutrients and therefore B12 is supplemented in a lot of soils we use to feed animals. 95% of B12 supplementation is given to animals, and we eat those animals. If you didn't understand I can dumb it down for you even more. "Back in the day people weren't vegans", so stupid hahaha
2019-12-15 15:22
#120
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United States JustBitsy 
B12 comes from bacteria mainly. You only get it from animals because they eat grass and shit. Its easy to get it from literally dirt but no one would do that. B12 is not sourced from animals its sourced from bacteria that lives on the food they eat. We would get b12 from all plants if we didnt wash them the way we do but again, who in their right mind wants to do that... Edit: also you can get b12 from fermented products like fermented tea since bacteria and fermentation go hand in hand it is easy to source b12 relatively healthily and naturally through things like fermented tea.
2019-12-15 15:54
Animals get B12 because they have the nice symbiotic bacteria that produces B12 which they take and accumulate in their tissues. The origin of the B12 is bacterial but animals are our main B12 sources (especially ruminants). We would do a lot of stuff with different intestinal bacteria. We could surely make B12, we could surely digest cellulose, we could surely digest rotten meat without any problem.. but guess what, we dont have those kinda bacteria sooo we cant do all those stuff. Ye by not washing plants at all you'd get nice infections aswell:)
2019-12-15 16:06
we are omnivore actually...
2019-12-15 04:40
Nice appeal to nature fallacy. It's only true if we had to be omnivores, which we of course don't.
2019-12-15 14:12
what are you suggesting we rather "have to be" – herbivores? surely not.
2019-12-15 14:26
The leap you have to take from me saying we don't have to eat animal products to you thinking I mean we must only eat plant products required an enlightened amount of stupidity.
2019-12-15 15:12
it is an assumtion based on your previous statements indeed. you did not answer my question, however. herbivores, omnivores, or carnivore, what are we?
2019-12-15 15:35
Most humans are omnivores, that doesn't mean we have to be omnivores. It's a non-argument.
2019-12-15 15:56
+1
2019-12-15 14:02
well said.
2019-12-15 16:26
i think we need to stop looking at diets and food trends in a universal way, every person needs different things to function.
2019-12-15 00:22
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Kuwait Onlytruth3 
most people need the same things to function
2019-12-15 00:23
Your body is a super trained machine, and will do everything possible to help you survive no matter what u eat. but it's true what he says, diets vary from continent to continent. like u could probably not stay healthy on an asian diet like asians do.
2019-12-15 00:25
#8
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Kuwait Onlytruth3 
IQ varies continent to continent. Cant stay healthy on asian diet that asians can stay healthy on? Of course I can
2019-12-15 00:27
#51
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Malaysia kaiske 
There is 99.5% ~ 100% dna similarity
2019-12-15 04:33
#10
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Kuwait Onlytruth3 
fake and gay
2019-12-15 00:32
+1, posting netflix "documentaries" (propaganda) and he thinks he's smart.
2019-12-15 00:33
#114
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Belgium Miiyata 
Have only read the description btw, and i am now on a low protein diet and idk wtf is happening but i am getting better results in both small mass gain with definition and losing fat all at same time.
2019-12-15 15:39
A balanced diet will make you feel better. Those who are Vegans are retarded
2019-12-15 00:59
#19
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Europe Malcorianus 
Why is someone retarded just because he has a vegan diet? Why would anyone care about what other people eat? Get a job ffs and do something instead of calling a group of people retarded just because they don't want to eat meat and other products from animals.
2019-12-15 02:08
Where did I write that I have a problem with what people eat? If my opinion triggered you so hard I would recommend to not use HLTV
2019-12-15 02:19
#37
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Europe Malcorianus 
Calling vegans retarded just because of their eating choice, shows that you have a problem with it. I couldn't care less about the opinion of a guy I have never seen or spoken to in real life, but I am bored, can't sleep, and I wanted to let you know, that your opinion, which states that vegans are retards, is just stupid, that's it. Is your statement wrong? Look at #34
2019-12-15 03:23
saying they are retarded is not his opinion, it's a fact.
2019-12-15 14:18
#136
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France NVR67 
+1
2019-12-15 17:25
retarded is a strong word but most vegans lack nutritients and eat unhealthy
2019-12-15 02:27
+1
2019-12-15 03:13
Guess what? The majority of people eat unhealthy and they're not vegans, LUL.
2019-12-15 14:33
Yeah but a vegan diet is inherently unhealthy as it lacks nutritients
2019-12-15 15:06
Many meat eaters who stick to healthy diet and lifestyle still use supplements, lol.
2019-12-15 15:27
Many is less than 100% which is the case for a healthy vegan diet
2019-12-15 15:27
I personally know some people who don't use any supplements on vegan diet for years, they look and feel good, and couldn't care less about "lacks nutritients", lol. Tell me more, lol.
2019-12-15 15:29
and drink coffe, or tea, or other toxic liquids beacuse there is no energy in their food i assume.
2019-12-15 17:27
You dumb? :D
2019-12-15 17:33
perhaps, however, the assumption still stands.
2019-12-15 17:58
Lmao, +1000.
2019-12-15 14:35
'a balance diet will make you feel better' is the most vague thing ive read from someone trying to give an expert opinion on something they know nothing about
2019-12-15 02:10
Where did I say I'm an expert or are you just looking for attention? Its common knowledge that if you eat good = you will feel good.
2019-12-15 02:23
the sun is hot btw
2019-12-15 03:11
Is he wrong?
2019-12-15 02:27
"Those who are Vegans are retarded" yes, yes he is.
2019-12-15 03:12
You weren't referring to that in your previous comment
2019-12-15 04:00
#39
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Bulgaria CHAPOLE! 
Caring about animal cruelty is retarded haha
2019-12-15 03:32
I think it comes from actually paying attention to what you eat.
2019-12-15 00:57
Vegan diet + milk,eggs and fish best.
2019-12-15 01:09
thats pescatarian
2019-12-15 02:09
#72
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Iran CEO_of_mens 
+1
2019-12-15 14:15
#18
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Canada ProvexPyker 
Vegan because you understand how unsustainable the meat industry is? Respect. Vegan because you are sad animals die? Stupid.
2019-12-15 01:58
There is nothing stupid with having empathy. For me it wasn't the main reason of going vegan though.
2019-12-15 14:27
#104
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Canada ProvexPyker 
Yeah your right, that was stupid of me to say.
2019-12-15 15:27
I ate about 600 grams of pork belly and I lost count on my beers, one of the best I've felt whole year.
2019-12-15 02:13
yeah im vegan. V - veal E - eggs G - germans A - and N - nuggets
2019-12-15 02:20
Longterm almost all vegans switch back to eating meat because they're lacking important nutritients
2019-12-15 02:25
don't worry, they can take pills and supplements which naturally grow on trees
2019-12-15 02:28
Does it matter if supplements grow on trees or not? Do the supplements given to animals grow on trees? I can't wait for your reply where you actually make an argument!
2019-12-15 14:38
U rekt him men
2019-12-15 15:50
stopped reading at "Vegan"
2019-12-15 02:26
to be honest if youre vegan or vegetarian youre a fucking idiot mate lol
2019-12-15 03:27
#40
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Bulgaria CHAPOLE! 
Being a vegetarian is so much healthier than having a meat eating diet lol
2019-12-15 03:33
sorry i don't talk to stupid people
2019-12-15 03:34
#45
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Bulgaria CHAPOLE! 
0/8
2019-12-15 03:35
+1
2019-12-15 14:20
It is healthier and better for the planet, so not that idiotic
2019-12-15 14:23
#117
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Belgium Miiyata 
Tbh you are a fking idiot mate lol
2019-12-15 15:42
mad vegan
2019-12-15 18:06
#143
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Belgium Miiyata 
Keep throwing mate, abysmal posting. I'm not a vegan but you are a disgrace. Did your parents not teach you of respect?
2019-12-15 18:32
why are you so mad lmao
2019-12-15 18:47
#41
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Philippines 1zzyLiks 
People who doesn't eat meat wanted to be a goat maybe. Just play goat simulator mens
2019-12-15 03:33
There is nothing wrong with being a vegan, stop judging poor people just because you re rich mens))
2019-12-15 03:33
#47
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Denmark K4k3 
I think it’s because people that are vegan become more aware of what they eat. Also, I can imagine eating the same vegetables every day is boring, so there will be more variety. Variety = healthy = feel better.
2019-12-15 03:45
Stop with this diet nonesense already, just eat everything. Its even healthy to drink alcohol every day, if you know how to drink it. So stop with this crap please
2019-12-15 04:30
#84
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Finland jakem0n 
I think you mean a glass of wine with food instead of bottle of vodka with orange juice?
2019-12-15 14:24
Ofcourse. The point is, if you are not greedy and you have balance, you can eat and drink. Focusing just on vegies or meats is just a BS. Combine everything, balance it and enyoj. Life is to short to overthink everything.
2019-12-15 14:36
#97
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Finland jakem0n 
+1
2019-12-15 14:50
+1
2019-12-15 15:06
#52
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Australia strikebacK 
who gives a fuck what you eat we're all going to die regardless
2019-12-15 04:37
if you look at it from all sources unbiasedly some people can be vegan and healthy and some can't so who gives a fuck what you eat. Some people even only eat meat and are fine.
2019-12-15 04:49
If you cut out gluten, processed meats and foods fried foods of course you'll feel better.
2019-12-15 13:59
plants are mostly toxic for the body and digestion, that's why we cook them. they also taste like shit most of the time (vegetables), especially uncooked, that's why we put spices on it - not neccesary for eating meat. cooking stuff to eat it is not really natural, only in human "nature" it is done. so no, feeling good about eating plants and having to cook them to be able to eat them does not make me feel better.
2019-12-15 14:09
Except that you: 1) put and breed animals in a cage until they are ready 2) then use a sort of weapon to kill the animal instead of using your own claws and teeth, oh wait 3) then get rid of blood, intestines, skin, hair etc. and cut out the best parts so it's not disgusting as fuck anymore 4) then cook it 5) then season it because the taste is very blunt Bro.. Really xd
2019-12-15 15:41
I'm not saying eating meat the way we do is natural. Only that eating vegetables and plants does not make me feel like I am doing anything good OR natural either. Generally though, eating meat is more natural for humans than plants in my opinion: If you forget about farming, which happens in both industries and imagine humans were still hunting animals and gathering plants from the forest, it seems much more feasible for us to eat animals as they give much more nutrition low effort (hunting) and you can eat the meat raw if necessary (edible taste, not poisonous except chicken), which isn't possible with many plant products as mentioned before. What do you think? Of course in todays world it seems impossible to be hunting animals for food, but so does farming for your own. At least if all >7b people were doing it.
2019-12-15 16:13
#130
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Canada ProvexPyker 
Why would 7b people need to do farming? Isn't less than 2% of the world population farmers? And they feed the whole world. Btw the meat industry is not sustainable if that's what you think
2019-12-15 16:17
Did I say it is sustainable? I think you missed my point. I was saying, that ignoring current state of the world and society – farming, 7b people – in my opinion it seems more natural for humans to be eating animals instead of eating plants as a main source of nutrition. -> medium effort, high reward (animals - hunted) -> high effort, low reward (plants - not farmed, but gathered)
2019-12-15 16:23
#132
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Canada ProvexPyker 
Yeah idk what your point is sorry, I'm sleepy
2019-12-15 16:25
good argument! have a good night
2019-12-15 17:22
#70
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Poland aiken 
Lol, I read 'Vegan died' :D
2019-12-15 14:13
#133
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Canada ProvexPyker 
I read this as "Vegan diet" 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♂️
2019-12-15 16:26
#71
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Brazil ATURAouSURTA 
Free your mind from all misconceptions you have about veganism and watch this youtu.be/6zs3YDtpdQg Try this, it can change your life
2019-12-15 14:14
why the video so yellow?
2019-12-15 14:38
pescetarianism is superior.
2019-12-15 14:17
than carnivore diet. but we don't need fish either.
2019-12-15 14:28
Not really.
2019-12-15 14:21
#83
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Spain Insurrecto97 
Vegan Squadron!
2019-12-15 14:23
#109
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Poland FitPolak 
Of course. People consume more vitamins and minerals that they didn't normally do. Vegan diet isn't any better than non restriction diet, duh its more expensive(especially for lifters)
2019-12-15 15:34
Not true. There is no cheaper diet than a whole foods plant-based diet.
2019-12-15 15:38
#115
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Poland FitPolak 
To get enough of all vitamins and minerals in diet? No way.
2019-12-15 15:40
Are you asking me this question? Because you seem very unsure of your statement
2019-12-15 15:46
#119
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Poland FitPolak 
I'm pretty sure of my statement.
2019-12-15 15:47
Pretty sure? Not sure? Well, bad news for you. You are wrong. Plant foods have and will always be cheaper.
2019-12-15 15:53
#124
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Poland FitPolak 
If people* don't care about the vitamins and minerals in their diet, then sure.
2019-12-15 15:56
Except nuts probably. Idk current meat/fish prices though. :D
2019-12-15 15:55
You are right. 10-20% animal products don't really affect the health aspect of a plant-based diet. In fact, I'd argue for many it's better because it's a lot easier to do right.
2019-12-15 15:37
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