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Top 20 2019
forsaken | 
Spain Rafamaster122 
1- ZywOo 2-device 3- EliGE 4- S1mple 5- Magisk 6- Dupreeh 7- NAF 8- gla1ve 9- twistzz 10- Xyp9x 11- Ropz 12- electronic 13- brehze 14- ethan 15- jame 16- cerQ 17- woxic 18- jks 19- jkaem 20- qikert
2019-12-15 00:44
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6/8
2019-12-15 00:45
wut changes?
2019-12-15 00:45
#33
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Denmark iTipe 
1. device flag, check me outta here. just spitting facts
2019-12-15 01:27
#45
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Korea SpO_oK 
sad
2019-12-15 02:44
flag checks out Zywoo indeed player of the year
2019-12-15 12:08
did zywoo did anything this month?
2019-12-17 07:51
#101
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Russia kdruss 
A year has 12 months OMEGALUL
2019-12-17 08:38
dev1ce n elige had been playing every month OMEGALUL countered
2019-12-26 09:50
#3
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Germany Neckarstadion 
LUL
2019-12-15 00:46
#4
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Australia alf_au 
I agree
2019-12-15 00:46
#5
Xyp9x | 
Brazil Ninjz 
1. device Some order changes -jkaem + Brollan - qikert +Niko
2019-12-15 00:47
I forgot NiKo my bad
2019-12-15 00:54
#6
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United States Jaksin 
I'm a Team Liquid fan but I still don't think ELIGE is above s1mple
2019-12-15 00:47
#10
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Germany Neckarstadion 
Mate I dislike Liquid and I think Elige should be #1, above Zywoo and s1mple. He won Liquid so many trophies, usually being the only truly consistent member. He is more integral to Liquid than s1mple is to NaVi. Imo only Zywoo can be considered above Elige
2019-12-15 00:50
+1
2019-12-15 00:55
#36
ISSAA | 
Ukraine SandiGOD 
Stupid German. Navi 2019 without s1mple would be dogshit. Guardian can't awp anymore. Electronic is great but thats about it. He was kind of underwhelming at the beginning of this year. Boombl4 cant really frag at the top tier. Flamie is just inconsistent coinflip who either plays decent or just trash. S1mple had to carry Edward and Zeus this year too. Zeus was a decent IGL but crap at shooting and Edward is just dog shit as fuck. Liquid w/o elige is still a top 10 team. Maybe top 5. In 2019, Stew was considered the best entry fragger in the world, Naf was considered a top 10 player. Twistzz was in contention for one of the best aimers in the world alongside S1mple and Zywoo because he was so good with deagle and ak first bullet accuracy. Nitr0 was also in the debate for top 5 awper in 2019 too alongside top 3 igl during their run of the grand slam. Navi without s1mple = Electronic sometimes carrying but probably going to be around top 20 team
2019-12-15 01:55
#37
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Germany Neckarstadion 
tldr
2019-12-15 01:55
#39
ISSAA | 
Ukraine SandiGOD 
Navi without s1mple = Electronic sometimes carrying but probably going to be around top 20 team Liquid without elige = top10 atleast
2019-12-15 01:56
#40
ISSAA | 
Ukraine SandiGOD 
Understand now Stupid German? )))
2019-12-15 01:59
#65
Jerry | 
Poland Jutiant 
are you really ukrainian friend?
2019-12-16 20:01
#69
ISSAA | 
Ukraine SandiGOD 
i live in uk but am from ukraine )))))
2019-12-17 01:19
Navi WITH s1mple was dogshit.
2019-12-17 05:43
kennyS>qikert
2019-12-15 00:48
I think that but idk
2019-12-15 00:55
qikert big events this year: 1.04 kenny: 1.11
2019-12-15 01:05
Oh nice
2019-12-15 01:07
#71
kennyS | 
Germany striXSy 
kennyS has very good stats this year and he was playing really good. Why do many people say kenny is shit only because their team is throwing all the time? Ik that G2 needs to work on many things if they want to be a top 6-7 team but cmon kennyS has been really good this year. Be honest
2019-12-17 01:34
I AGREE
2019-12-15 01:23
#8
nexa | 
Yugoslavia tomasev1c 
1.Musamban1 2.f0rsakeN 3.Papito 4.Sasha/A/ 5.f0rest-iZnOGoUD- 6.Xizt <Xtrfy> 7.JesperWecksell 8.JonathanE 9.SPUNJ 10.Duncan "Thorin" Shields 11.ZyWooOoOoOoOO 15.nexa 20.smoke_criminal 13.TeSeS
2019-12-15 00:49
you forgot zeus top 1 lmao he is the best cs go player ever
2019-12-18 18:40
#9
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United States Vollizie 
dupreeh is way too high. Electronic and brehze too low. Jame and qikert shouldn't be on the list. Xyp9x is too high. Gla1ve shouldn't even be on the list, recency bias is getting to you it seems. Ethan too high, jks too low. Woxic has been better than ropz this year in total.
2019-12-15 00:49
#14
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Germany Neckarstadion 
Agreed with Qikert, but Jame making it into 15-20 is not out of this world.
2019-12-15 00:54
#43
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United States Vollizie 
4 big events played this year. He's overrated af hltv.org/stats/players/events/13776/Jame..
2019-12-15 02:42
Dupreeh have nice rating won 6 tournements and 1 MVP and also some EVPs Brehze I agree, electronic won 1 tournement and played 5 or 6 (no Majors) Gla1ve won 1 MVP and some EVPs and have a decent rating Ethan nice rating 1 MVP 1 tournement some EVPs I like a lot jks, but he did not win nothing, only a final (IEM Beijing vs Astralis) Woxic 0 MVPs ropz 1 and the rating of both are similar
2019-12-15 01:04
#50
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United States Vollizie 
Dupreeh has been great, but #6 is definitely too high. Idk wtf you are talking about, but electronic played at both majors, unless you meant that he won no majors, which makes no sense in this ranking. Electronic has the 4th highest rating at Big Events this year, no way he is #12 only. I don't think he will make Top 5 though either because of lower map count and low amount of EVPs. #44 for opinion on gla1ve. Ethan is making the list, but he has been inconsistent this year, so most likely lower than #14. Doesn't matter if you don't win a tournament, as long as you played well, you can make it pretty high. Jks will be higher than 18.
2019-12-15 02:50
I think you are making the same mistake people made last year and looking at number of MVPS too much. People who get MVPs tend to rank high because people who are with high peaks and consistency tend to win MVPs. Dupreeh was great in the last tournament played, and he was good in the first tournament of the year, between that he was very mediocre. Electronic is has spent the majority of the year on a team with Zeus and s1mple, that situation makes it near impossible tow in MVPS. If s1mple isn't amazing you don't win the tournament because you have Zeus, if s1mple plays at his best so you win the tournament then you don;t get the MVP because s1mple does almost by default. Electronics SLTV season 7 isn't worse then dupreehs MVP because s1mple was better then electronic. Electronic was still better at SLTV 7, EPL S10, and the Berlin major then dupreeh was across at the tournament where he won the MVP. People did the same thing with device last year, they ignored things like the fact that s1mples non MVP performance at epicenter was way a better performance then all of devices MVPS except 1(eleague premier). it just happened to take place at the same tournament as Niko having a 1.5 playoff rating. I came very close to predicting the top 20 last year and thats because I looked at how high a players peak is and how consistent they were, i didn't just count medals received. hltv.org/stats/players/events/8918/elect.. This is electronics big event resume for the year. hltv.org/stats/players/events/7398/dupre.. and this is dupreehs Electronics worst big event of the year is a 1.13 rating, Only 2 peoples worst event of the year is better then that and those 2 people are zywoo, and s1mple. Electronic is so consistent that Device has 4 tournaments worse or equal to his worst tournament. (1.13, at cologne, 1.08 at New York, 1.05 at epl season 10, and 0.94 at blast Miami) Dupreehs average rating was 1.11. Electronics worst big event of the year would literally be an above average event for dupreeh. If that sentence isn't enough to convince you that electronic has had a substantially better individual year then dupreeh I don't know what to do for you. Dupreeh only had 2 tournaments all year that would be considered above average for electronic whos big event rating is 1.23. In other words dupreeh plays better then electronics average in 13% of big events. Electronic plays above dupreehs average in 100% of big events. On an individual level Electronic is leagues above dupreeh, they are not close at all and I would bet the farm on electronic finishing above dupreeh. Im calling it now I will be back on January 21st, dupreeh will not make the top 10, electronic will be 5th.
2019-12-17 08:25
no1 asked for a 5000 essay
2019-12-17 08:32
Dupreeh overrated electronic underrated. Is that short enough for your brain?
2019-12-17 08:33
nah ill read when im home in like 8 hours
2019-12-17 08:34
it's not recency bias. it seems you're forgetting the first quarter of the year when astralis was still dominating everyone, including the major. liquid started their win streak in the middle of april.
2019-12-15 01:19
That was mostly device and magisk though
2019-12-15 01:20
#44
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United States Vollizie 
What #28 said. Gla1ve's stats were poor most of the year. hltv.org/stats/players/7412/gla1ve?start..
2019-12-15 02:44
the stats you linked contradict your own statement. they clearly show that for the first 3 months of 2019 glaive was consistently above 1.00, even higher than december. i maintain my point that it's NOT recency bias.
2019-12-15 11:46
#62
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United States Vollizie 
He's in the red a lot. He's a very valuable person to have on a team, but there is no way he is making a Top 20 list with these stats.
2019-12-15 19:41
i never said that he'll make top 20, just that his form at the beginning of the year was better than it is now.
2019-12-16 19:58
#66
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United States Vollizie 
His form at the end of the year was better actually. hltv.org/stats/players/events/7412/gla1v..
2019-12-16 20:15
those are the stats from individual events. the stats you posted in #44 contain a 3-month-average in each datapoint. it's up for debate which one better represents "form". also, by filtering only for big events you left out ibuypower and ecs s7 w1 at the beginning of the year, where he had some of his best stats all year. but all of that is besides the point. i merely had a problem with the term "recency bias" and mentioned some counterarguments to it, that's all. merry xmas.
2019-12-18 18:35
#111
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United States Vollizie 
Lol you actually think online matches are worth anything? Doing good at iBP won't change anything since it isn't a Big Event, so it has very little impact. I also filtered #44 by "2019," not "last three months."
2019-12-18 19:57
erm... do you even understand what you posted? look at the graphic at the bottom of the page you posted in #44. in that graphic, every datapoint is the average of the 3 months prior to that date. you can see the 3 month window when you hover over the graph. for example the highest point says: " [Denmark] Glaive Nov. 24th - Feb 24th - maps: 30 Rating 1.10 "
2019-12-19 14:04
#113
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United States Vollizie 
Well, this is 2019. You are taking into account events crossing over from 2018 into the 2019 year with the beginning of the graph. This is the start: Jan 1st - Apr 1st - maps: 19 Rating: 0.95
2019-12-19 16:59
elige is so overrated its insane
2019-12-15 00:51
I forgot NiKo guys, sorry
2019-12-15 00:54
#17
kennyS | 
Germany striXSy 
1- ZywOo 2-device 3- EliGE 4- S1mple 5- Magisk 6- electronic 7- NAF 8- Brehze 9- twistzz 10- Xyp9x 11- Ropz 12- NiKo 13- CeRq 14- Dupreeh 15- Xyp9x 16- woxic 17- kennyS 18- jks 19- hunter 20- KSCERATO
2019-12-15 00:58
Not bad, but why KSCERATO, he did not win nothing Edit: And hunter?
2019-12-15 01:05
x9p over dupreeh? no -kserato -hunter -kennys +gla1ve +sergej +ethan niko > jks > woxic > ethan > ropz > sergej (i'm not sure with jks thats high but check big events maps played not stats only)
2019-12-15 01:25
#70
kennyS | 
Germany striXSy 
-gla1ve +kennyS gla1ve won like 6 or 7 tournaments but overall kennyS has been way better than gla1ve. #19-20 kennyS
2019-12-17 01:29
Niko.... gtfo.
2019-12-17 05:47
#95
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Norway Olemannen 
Xyp9x twice?
2019-12-17 07:56
18- jks 19- jkaem HHAAHHAAHHAha
2019-12-15 01:05
1-Zywoo 2-Device 3- EliGE 4- S1mple 5-Electronic 6-Dupreeh 7-Glaive 8- Brehze 9-NAF 10- Cerq 11-Jame 12-JKS 13-Magisk 14-Ropz 15-Xyp9x 16-Hunter 17-Flusha 18-Kennys 19-Krimz 20-Niko
2019-12-15 01:05
Woxic>Kennys
2019-12-15 01:06
woxic, ropz. sergej, ethan > kennys >> hunter
2019-12-15 01:27
#72
kennyS | 
Germany striXSy 
kennyS > sergej
2019-12-17 01:36
Flair
2019-12-17 11:13
#57
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Finland FreeJamppi 
>Magisk not in top 10 ?????????
2019-12-15 12:03
wtf hunter ??????????? no kscerato 0/8
2019-12-18 18:39
#25
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Finland JManner 
xyp9x top 10 hahahahahaha no
2019-12-15 01:08
ZyWoo/S1mple dev1ce electronic Elige we talking about most SKILLED players, not team achiement
2019-12-15 01:20
we talking about top20 this year not about performance vs t3 teams at groupstage
2019-12-15 01:28
gla1ve way too high
2019-12-15 01:22
where is forsaken?
2019-12-15 01:32
#38
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Brazil gtaube 
Devveking #1 Zywho #2
2019-12-15 01:56
#41
oskar | 
Czech Republic y0fl0w 
xyp9x too high, elec way too low yeah and gla1ve won't be in there obv
2019-12-15 02:00
#47
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Brazil gtaube 
Do u think elec get higher than xyp this year?
2019-12-15 02:45
#48
oskar | 
Czech Republic y0fl0w 
100%
2019-12-15 02:46
#49
oskar | 
Czech Republic y0fl0w 
1.09 vs 1.23 big events(top30), are you serious?
2019-12-15 02:47
#42
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Australia gEFFx 
Jks > Jame
2019-12-15 02:00
#46
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Portugal iamchadux 
-qikert -jkaem +Niko +Rez/Brollan Devide #1
2019-12-15 02:45
#52
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Turkey mbee 
9- electronic 10- ropz 11- woxic fixed.
2019-12-15 11:53
Stopped reading at Zywoo
2019-12-15 11:55
#54
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Pakistan LoOuU2 
Dupreeh , Glaive and Xyp too high, I doubt Glaive even makes it to Top 20 through JKS too low, so is Electronic. No Niko and Brollan , they are gonna be there
2019-12-15 11:58
What a bad list! This proves that Spanish people doesn't know anything about CS:GO!
2019-12-15 12:01
#56
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Finland FreeJamppi 
I fee like when people make these lists, they only remember shit from the last 3 months.
2019-12-15 12:02
0/8
2019-12-15 12:03
If zywo rly got 1st place i couldnt respect hltv any longer tbh
2019-12-15 12:04
So probably you won't anymore
2019-12-15 18:54
#64
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Slovakia Georgy10 
niko should be there
2019-12-16 20:00
Hunter???
2019-12-16 20:16
#68
kennyS | 
Germany striXSy 
-qikert +kennyS
2019-12-16 20:16
1. ZywOo 2. device 3. ElIGE 4. s1mple 5. NAF 6. Magisk 7. electronic 8. Brehze 9. Twistzz 10. NiKo 11. Dupreeh 12. Ropz 13. sergej 14. w0xic 15. Ethan 16. JKS 17. Brollan 18. CeRq 19. Xyp9x 20. Krimz probably but alot of others could make it
2019-12-17 01:44
Pretty good list.. I would switch NAF with Magisk Edit: Sergej also seems overrated, I don't remember him being that influential in the ENCE run. Maybe I'm wrong.
2019-12-17 06:09
#85
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Australia g00sey 
+1 I think the list ends up looking like this
2019-12-17 06:19
#89
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Spain Varcolaco 
Very disagree on Niko top 10, even top 20, and Kennys should be there, overall isnt bad list
2019-12-17 06:51
#75
ropz | 
United States VadeCS 
Slide niko to 8 and drop everyone else one. And kenny should be 20th
2019-12-17 01:46
#76
ZywOo | 
Denmark Shremble 
6/8
2019-12-17 01:47
#77
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Czech Republic Dur4ngo 
Ropz top 10 woxic top 15. and mybe Frozen could get like rookie 20 rank
2019-12-17 05:29
-frozen
2019-12-17 05:40
#90
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Czech Republic Dur4ngo 
Yea probably but there is chance rank 20 usualy get some new rookie player
2019-12-17 07:41
0/8 wtf is that supposed to be
2019-12-17 05:38
Wtf is with Niko hitting these lists anything above 15? Dogshit all yr. Big deal. Blast.
2019-12-17 05:49
1)PASHANOJ 2)2019 3)in 4)top 1 5)predict 6)to 7)try 8)Dont
2019-12-17 05:51
where the fuck is maikelele???
2019-12-17 06:24
Jame too high and worse tham woxic also brehze and ethan are too low
2019-12-17 06:33
Jame is just baiter overrated unskilled player dont overrate him no more
2019-12-17 06:33
Xyp9x LUL
2019-12-17 07:46
#93
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CIS l992 
tight choice between zywoo and device
2019-12-17 07:52
Gla1ve 8th???????? Electronic 12th???????
2019-12-17 07:52
all the astralis players are too high, especially dupreeh, he was the MVP of one tournament and people forgot how mediocre he was for half the year. Electronic is way too low, that man has gone off this entire year.
2019-12-17 08:05
#103
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Poland Adisky 
1. Brehze 2. Cerq 3. Ethan 4. Stanislaw Rest irrelevant
2019-12-17 11:17
wtf no kscerato and qikert in top 20 ???????????????????????????
2019-12-18 18:38
A good top 20 for once, 8/8
2019-12-18 18:42
Tricked
2.59
SKADE
1.48
Skin Ogres
1.12
Nemiga
5.65
Cloud9
1.55
Renegades
2.40
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