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Top 20 players (better version)
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Finland Homeless775 
1. dev1ce 2. s1mple 3. Zywoo 4. EliGE 5. electroNic 6. Brehze 7. NAF 8. ropz 9. dupreeh 10. Twistzz 11. CeRq 12. coldzera 13. Woxic 14. Magisk 15. Xyp9x 16. Jks 17. flusha 18. niko 19. Sergej 20. Frozen Tell me what you would change!
2019-12-16 09:40
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#1
BnTeT | 
Indonesia lukerey 
device zywoo elige s1mple magisk NAF brehze electronic ropz twistzz
2019-12-16 09:42
#5
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Finland Homeless775 
Idk man s1mple always playing well, not a single bad game
2019-12-16 09:44
#74
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Denmark ntnoscene 
He had bad games lol
2019-12-17 02:28
No Ethan lol
2019-12-16 09:42
#3
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Finland Homeless775 
True ethan good player
2019-12-16 09:43
He’ll be like 16-20
2019-12-16 09:44
niko or NiKo
2019-12-16 09:44
#9
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Finland Homeless775 
NiKo
2019-12-16 09:46
#7
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World NukestrikE 
2. s1mple stoppped reading right here 0/8
2019-12-16 09:44
#10
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Finland Homeless775 
Well, explain? I’m ready to talk about this
2019-12-16 09:47
how on earth is he before zywoo? there is no signle argument for this. he wont be even before elige bcs he skipped decent amount of tournaments and achieved jack shit...i just looked at the rest of your ranking and exactly what i expected after 2. s1mple. whole ranking is completely clueless and based on literally nothing
2019-12-16 09:49
#19
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Finland Homeless775 
Fuck off we all know that zywoo has been better than s1mple just stop you p1mple fanboy!!
2019-12-16 10:02
are you drunk...? or just stupid?
2019-12-16 10:08
#23
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Why tf did you put s1mple 2 then
2019-12-16 10:12
where did i put him as second...?
2019-12-16 10:14
#26
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
wrong reply, meant to be for the Finnish guys, my bad Biased Boi
2019-12-16 10:32
no problem biased boy:)
2019-12-16 10:33
#30
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Your the one thats biased
2019-12-16 10:41
ofc blind kennys fanboy:)
2019-12-16 10:42
#33
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Finland Homeless775 
Guys chill, we need more positivity!!!
2019-12-16 10:48
#39
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
im not blind, just know device isnt as skilled as you think he is.
2019-12-16 10:56
ofc blind fanboy
2019-12-16 11:09
#46
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Finland Homeless775 
Ok kid fight me
2019-12-16 11:42
didnt even reply to you. back to your cave
2019-12-16 11:46
#48
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Finland Homeless775 
Lmao so mad, go back to your sad life
2019-12-16 11:53
you are calling me kid but im mad:D? flawless logic
2019-12-16 11:54
#52
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Finland Homeless775 
That comment was clearly a joke and ypur dumbass didn’t get it because you’re so mad
2019-12-16 12:01
you are insulting people here and there but im mad? wowowow badass:DD
2019-12-16 12:02
#56
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Finland Homeless775 
Insulting? So funny and ironic #33
2019-12-16 12:04
yea you are rly ironic. calling others mad while you are on fire haha
2019-12-16 12:05
#60
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Finland Homeless775 
How am I mad tho you still have not explained that to me 😂 i’m the one cracking jokes and you take then seriously
2019-12-16 12:10
dude calm down or your head will blow up srsly...
2019-12-16 12:10
#62
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Finland Homeless775 
This proves my point, thank you for making yourself look dumb as fuck😂 you make this 2 ez for me, i guess flag checks out
2019-12-16 12:13
holy so mad. rly im worried about your health right now.
2019-12-16 12:13
#64
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Finland Homeless775 
Keep proving my point go on I want more please do not stop
2019-12-16 12:15
so mad lul
2019-12-16 12:16
#66
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Finland Homeless775 
#64
2019-12-16 12:21
mad
2019-12-16 12:21
#71
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
mad. Blind fan boy. Theres a difference between skill and camping and ecofragging. And that is no skill my friend
2019-12-16 23:18
cleare example how deluded you are. wp
2019-12-17 01:57
#83
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
No, its a clear example of how I am not Biased unlike you
2019-12-17 06:43
clear example of how completely deluded you are lmao. kennys not even top20 player. deal with it
2019-12-17 07:00
#8
Boo | 
France mbl4 
ZywOo > s1mple, it's pretty undeniable at this point
2019-12-16 09:46
Woxic should be #11 above cerq and then #13 coldzera, cuz he has good rating and lots of evp’s beside his first mvp
2019-12-16 09:49
#38
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South Africa nimmaJ 
He doesnt have lots of EVPs, he has 1 as of now maybe 2 when pro league releases and his map count is quite low to the players hovering around top 10 and above.
2019-12-16 10:54
#13
JT | 
Denmark iLoVeReD 
coldzera, woxic, flusha & frozen won't be here KRiMZ & jkaem should be here (both #15-20 respectively) nahtE should be here (#12-17) CeRq is way too high (should be like #15-20) ropz is way too high (should be like #15-20) Xyp9x is way too low (should be like #8-12) Magisk is way too low (should be like #4-7) NiKo & dupreeh should be higher (#11-14 & #5-7 respectively) Edit: device won't be top 1, ZyWoo or s1mple has better chances. My guess is: ZyWoo, s1mple, device (in order).
2019-12-16 09:51
#14
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
+1 except Woxic might make it and Xyp9x too high
2019-12-16 09:51
#16
JT | 
Denmark iLoVeReD 
woxic started way too late, I can't put him even on #20, when I barely put ropz right here
2019-12-16 09:53
#32
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South Africa nimmaJ 
So jkaem should make the list. But woxic shouldnt...? hltv.org/stats/players/compare/8248/jkae.. Only 17 maps separating them. About equal levels of success from both of their respective teams. Woxic clearly superior individually. Jkaem 2 Big event EVPs. Woxic 1 Big Event EVP 1 Small event MVP.
2019-12-16 10:45
#35
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Turkey Thunderball 
No he hadnt. He is overall performed over 1.15 lan ratings. His teams just started to win and making trophies (both hr and mouz). Considering the trophies that mouz won he is easily got in to top 15.
2019-12-16 10:49
Woxic had quite the good year, but 80-90 Big event games might hinder him
2019-12-16 09:54
Agree with everything here except woxic not making the list. He definitely has a chance.
2019-12-16 09:54
#28
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Dupreeh 5-7 you gotta be joking there. Rest I agree with but could you explain that. He doesnt have anywhere close to top 10 stats. Magisk brehze twistzz NAF even Xyp should be higher than him as he was more consistent with more overall accolades. Can even make an argument for Niko and electronic but they'll falter due to less deep runs.
2019-12-16 10:34
Are u fuck u ?? S0mple pog
2019-12-16 09:59
#20
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Finland Karppanator 
If any Ence player is on the list it highly devalues the list imho
2019-12-16 10:05
#21
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Finland Homeless775 
Can’t deny that sergej is a talented player
2019-12-16 10:08
#50
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Finland Karppanator 
Yes that's a fact but then again I've never actually learned how HLTV values those stats, it seems like flusha got robbed in his ratings most of the time in fnatic's hayday for example
2019-12-16 11:56
#29
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Sergej 5 big event EVPs and top 10ish stats. Most likely will make the list around 15th
2019-12-16 10:40
#45
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Finland Homeless775 
Exactly
2019-12-16 11:41
#25
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Electronic 5th for what? No MVPs only 2 evps, low map count vs elite teams. Plenty more deserving than him magisk brehze NAF twistzz will all be higher. Ropz same boat. Lower map count than the elite players on the top 3 teams and only 1 EVP to go with his ESL performance. He won't make top 10. Didnt ever start big events til IEM Sydney. Magisk 14th is a joke. Most successful team = a bunch of EVPs + major MVP/EVP and top 10 stats. Where is ethan/brollan? How is frozen flusha above them Ethans MVP will easily put him above them. And brollan has more EVPs than both and better stats than flusha. Coldzera too high weak map count, few deep runs all he has is his major EVP to speak for him. Might not even make it. Niko obviously too low has 2 MVPs albeit blast and top 10 stats
2019-12-16 10:36
#34
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Finland Homeless775 
Didn’t read but yes i agree
2019-12-16 10:48
#37
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Kinda silly to make a list, ask for advice and not read the advice but you do you
2019-12-16 10:50
#43
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Finland Homeless775 
Ok!
2019-12-16 11:38
#36
Jame | 
Russia Tank0v 
1. Zywoo 2. dev1ce 3. Elige 4. s1mple 5. NAF 6. Brehze 7. magisk 8. ropz 9. dupreeh 10. Twistzz
2019-12-16 10:50
#44
tarik | 
Germany den7 
Astralis should have 3 players in top ten
2019-12-16 11:39
I think we need to wait epiccenter to finish. Then we can argue about top 20. especially ropz and woxic if they win this tournament too
2019-12-16 11:57
#54
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Turkey mbee 
woxic better than coldzera and cerq this year. i think he's #10 or #11
2019-12-16 12:02
What a bad list!
2019-12-16 12:02
#68
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Finland Homeless775 
Thanks!!!🤭
2019-12-16 14:15
Fer #20
2019-12-16 12:07
Shitty list
2019-12-16 12:07
#69
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Finland Homeless775 
Thanks!!!😛
2019-12-16 14:15
Ur welcome
2019-12-16 14:17
ZywOo device ElIGE s1mple NAF Magisk Electronic Brehze Twistzz NiKo
2019-12-16 23:21
#75
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Brazil lucaix 
Idk how people dare to put Zywoo on #1 over device. Of course he was a spetacular player this year. Dudes, the ranking is not just about "individual performance" but including the achievements. The danish boys got a really nice impact this year. One thing Im sure, Zywoo is not over Device, Xyp9x, Elige, Krimz and Twistzz at all.
2019-12-17 02:47
Zywoo up, electronic down, ropz down, coldzera shouldn't even be on there, NiKo up, flusha is not even the best player on his team, Magisk should be higher, and frozen shouldn't be on there. 2/8
2019-12-17 02:51
#77
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Turkey headshotk1ng 
1.device 2.ZywOo 3.s1mple 4.EliGE 5.electronic 6.Magisk 7.Brehze 8.NAF 9.Twistzz 10.CeRq 11.NiKo 12.dupreeh 13.sergej 14.jks 15.Xyp9x 16.kennyS 17.ropz 18.sergej 19.woxic 20.gla1ve
2019-12-17 02:55
Good but I don't think kennyS or gla1ve will make it
2019-12-17 03:01
#81
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Turkey headshotk1ng 
kennyS should make it, but idk about gla1ve tbh maybe allu or KRIMZ instead of him
2019-12-17 03:03
#78
JW | 
United States raymoney 
Zywoo is number one. Dev is number 2
2019-12-17 02:55
#79
kennyS | 
Brazil KyuuNTC 
Coldzera kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2019-12-17 03:01
-Jks higher -Flusha although i love him as a player he won't make it, Put jkaem in his place (top 20 is pretty random anyway so it could be anyone) -Coldzera a little lower -Simple or Zywoo as top 1 (I could really see Device as top 1 anyway as both of them had some really rough periods during the year)
2019-12-17 03:04
#84
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Russia V9l1k 
2.GuardiaN
2019-12-17 06:45
#86
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Finland Homeless775 
Lol
2019-12-17 08:09
1. Murritus
2019-12-17 08:16
#88
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Netherlands meneertjesem 
Stoped reading at 1. Device because i knew it was true
2019-12-17 08:21
Where is jame???
2019-12-17 08:37
s1mple should not be top 3
2019-12-17 08:39
GamerLegion
2.39
HAVU
1.55
Natus Vincere
1.91
Vitality
1.86
Astralis
1.05
Complexity
9.10
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