2016/2017 - yes
2018/2019 - no
LG/SK were never truly dominant. They won 2 majors in a row but they never dominated other tournaments. Cold was irrelevant before their run and he has never been special afterwards either. We have players like device who have been great since day 1 in csgo.
my name is cold; i'm a baiter
i'll see you at the bomb site; a lil later
Cold is great. But I can't put him into this discussion cuz there is no discussion.
Neo is the number one of CS. (1.6 and GO).
Dev1ce is the GOAT of CSGO, especially if he keeps his form for another year. Just look at his top 20 placements throughout the years, he has the most MVPs out of all players by a mile, if you'd count EVPs he would probably be even more impressive.
F0rest maybe was relevant throughout the years and cold aswell as GTR was 2 times top 1 in their own periods, but the consistency of dev1ce is incredible.
And Neo shouldn't even be considered, he was a god in 1.6 and decent in GO
GOAT in terms of skill would be s1mple he is the best mechanically skilled player and one of the smartest.
GOAT in terms of impact on the game would be GeT_RiGhT or NEO
GOAT is spinbot, he doesn't need to see the enemies to kill all of them and he can play any level doing +40 bombs for sure.
Coldzera was irrelevant from 2012 to 2015 and from 2018 to 2020. He only ever did something in 2016-2017 and that's it.
LG/SK won 2 majors and just a few tournaments in between, never really dominating other teams (constantly going back and forth with Faze, Astralis, Virus.Pro etc.). If you ask me I wouldn't consider that an era, but since many people say it was, it is by far the weakest of the four: 1. Astralis, 2. Fnatic, 3. NiP, 4. Lg/sk.
Coldzera got #1 in 2017 but that was a robbery in clear day. NiKo was 1000x better than him that year. Looking at it skillwise (this will trigger many brazilians) Coldzera isn't very good compared to others: s1mple, zywoo, dev1ce, elige, magisk twistzz, electronic,... Pretty much half of the pro's today.
In terms of consistency he is no where, and this is the key to being a goat. Players like dev1ce, f0rest, s1mple have shown great consistency over the years and much better gameplay which can easily give them the GOAT title. Coldzera was only relevant for 2 out of 8 years.
Last but not least, TACO. I believe that if it wasn't for Taco's baiting, Coldzera wouldn't have been #1 both years.
TL;DR: Coldzera isn't very good compared to others
he's geh with niko thats why
Baitzera is only consistent player
f0rest is the GOAT
Of course he's in the conversation, nobody said that he wasn't.
yeah, he is smart, has good skill and he is very clutch.
did i mention that he is good with any weapon?
he is not quite the goat but if you had to make a top 5, then i would add him.
if you watch the povs of every contended zywoo is clearly the real goat cs have never witnessed
Of course he's one of the GOATs. There is not only 1 GOAT because there are endless points of view, endless statistics.
There is a group of people who can be considered the greatest of all time and Coldzera for sure is in that group. In my opinion the players that can be considered the greatests of all time in CS:GO (exclusively CS:GO, not counting 1.6 here) are, in no particular order:
1. GTR (undisputed)
2. Olofmeister (undisputed)
3. device (undisputed)
4. coldzera (undisputed)
5. s1mple (undisputed)
6. kennyS (undisputed)
7. snax (debatable)
8. NiKo (debatable)
9. GuardiaN (debatable)
10. f0rest (debatable)
11. flusha (debatable)
12. ZywOo (depends on how he does in 2021 but most likely will be on this list by the end of 2020).
I'm taking a mixture of consistency and peak performance as a method of ranking, as well as hltv rankings history and personal achievements (MVPs) since CS:GO went competitive. And also mind this is my personal list, nowhere do I say this is correct or wrong, just my view.
He is great player dude...
Cold is great but not the best. He needs to bait the team to play. I think yes, he is overrated.
Coldzera is bad and not a GOAT.
FATZERA way better and definetely goat candidate
obviously cold had a fantastic run in 2k16\17. but thats it, since then he was nothing impressive or over any other rank1 player.
i do love his playstyle but still cannot say that he deserves more than he got.
GTR is the undisputed 1st place (majorly because of he was the best for over 2 years in CSGO and many years in the 1.6 community)
You can't call someone GOAT if the game has a short story and is still being played by other players who have the same potential to become one. You can make a list of contenders for this title ATM but there is no GOAT player for me.
Except for Astralis, they are the GOAT team without a doubt
Coldzera was 2x major, 2x major mvp and 2x player of the year, all of this in a row. But brazilians are not suppose to be top 1, cause they not north americans or europeans players.
Because he's brazilian lol
GTR and Olofmeister were only one time major mvp, S1mple never win a major, Device or Niko were never top 1... So yes, Coldzera is the goat. Cause he did it all twice.
name checks out
For sure he is on the list, together with f0rest, GeT_RiGhT, device. s1mple and ZywOo need more achievements, I think it's early for them, and cold has a lot of gas to burn yet, I wouldn't say the same for f0rest and GTR.
We could take a hole day discussing this