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“Device would have better stats
Germany OCECS_Worsethan_NA 
If he was on a shit team.” Imagine believing that
2020-01-17 10:19
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Denmark TurboHenning2 
Device would have better stats if he was on a shit team.
2020-01-17 10:21
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Denmark WAAAH 
Device would have better stats if he was on a shit team.
2020-01-17 10:23
Imagine thinking not winning most rounds, having the awp 24/7 instead of a CZ no armor isnt gonna be a benefit. Zywoo spends way more time on ecos, having to have a pistol instead of AWP
2020-01-17 10:56
Device plays on ecorounds too
2020-01-17 14:44
less
2020-01-17 14:45
If u win the round you will have fucking buy round, or if you suck a dick u play eco
2020-01-17 14:48
yes and that depends on the team. Astralis plays less eco rounds
2020-01-17 14:51
You win you do buy
2020-01-17 16:29
+1
2020-01-17 14:45
not even top 250 if he wasnt born in denmark
2020-01-17 10:24
Well that’s a stretch, but it certainly helps when your country has so many good players
2020-01-17 10:25
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Finland Qurko 
"Zywoo top1" imagine believing that
2020-01-17 10:24
he will be 2019 #1
2020-01-17 10:56
Lmao, +1.
2020-01-17 10:25
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Netherlands xDtrololo 
Mens you are dumb af and clearly have no idea , ofcourse you flourish more if your teammates are better you MM bots stop making threads please if your brain is a fkin peanut
2020-01-17 10:26
LMAO
2020-01-17 10:27
No u
2020-01-17 10:46
Imagine thinking not winning most rounds, having the awp 24/7 instead of a CZ no armor isnt gonna be a benefit. Zywoo spends way more time on ecos, having to have a pistol instead of AWP
2020-01-17 10:57
#44
2020-01-17 14:45
Yeah, it's a bad argument. Even Fifflaren used to have good stats. Magisk's stats also shot up after joining Astralis, same with gla1ve. If you're playing with better teammates you'll find yourself in generally better positions and you'll die less.
2020-01-17 10:27
+1111, Elige for example got better stats once Stewie joined . S1mple got better stats once Electronic joined . (Although he already had good stats)
2020-01-17 10:28
+1 Imagine thinking not winning most rounds, having the awp 24/7 instead of a CZ no armor isnt gonna be a benefit. Zywoo spends way more time on ecos, having to have a pistol instead of AWP
2020-01-17 10:57
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Germany fgnoway 
Zywoo wont get top 1 except that. Would be ridiculous btw.
2020-01-17 10:31
He will tho??
2020-01-17 10:31
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Germany fgnoway 
dude, you are so deluded... It's deevice and it's is not even close. I don't even like him or Astralis but you can't fuck with his/their 2019. They reclaimed their Top 1 status in style thanks mainly to great peformances of device. Zywoo played great but didn't win anything and had series were he didn't peform. His time for best player will come maybe eeven in 2020 but it won't be this time.
2020-01-17 10:44
nt
2020-01-17 14:49
He will be #1
2020-01-17 10:46
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Czech Republic Rewask 
Why does it matter?
2020-01-17 10:33
Doesn’t really, but it does slightly trigger me.
2020-01-17 10:35
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Czech Republic Rewask 
I don't get people who make this argument, stats are individual statistics, it should not matter at all for which team is the player playing. So +1 basically
2020-01-17 10:35
That's why I always say trophies and even mvp's should not matter at all
2020-01-17 10:47
#17
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France KamaraD 
Device will play like god in all teams if gla1ve will play with him
2020-01-17 10:34
Device has always played like a god, I just don’t think he could hard carry like Zywoo/S1mple and win events.
2020-01-17 10:35
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Denmark felab 
its not like zywoo and S1mple really wins events like device do though. Dev1ce is the most accomplished player ever
2020-01-17 10:46
Yeah because he has the best team of all time backing him up
2020-01-17 10:48
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Denmark felab 
He does exactly what it takes to win, zywoo and S1mple cant. when zywoo gets 2 majors in a year he can have top 1
2020-01-17 10:49
"He does exactly what it takes to win" You mean being born danish and playing in the best team of csgo history? Yeah good job Device. Not even their last roster move was in their control lmao, he just had everything working out. Doesn't mean he is the best player
2020-01-17 10:54
#37
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Denmark felab 
Zywo(0) majors
2020-01-17 10:55
As much majors as you have good arguments
2020-01-17 10:56
#46
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Denmark felab 
Many*
2020-01-17 10:57
then pronax top 1 then 2015, 2016, 2017 cause 3 major
2020-01-17 10:58
#26
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Denmark felab 
Messi and Ronaldo are considered the best because they are the best players on the best teams, depending on which one wins champions league
2020-01-17 10:47
They are considered the best because they are the best. Nothing to do with the teams they play in
2020-01-17 10:49
#32
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Denmark felab 
You think Ronaldo playing for a bottom la liga team, would do as well? its the team that enables him to be the best
2020-01-17 10:50
You just proved the point of everyone saying Zywoo top 1 lmao. You just admitted that Device is doing better because he is on a great team and would do worse in a team like Vitality
2020-01-17 10:55
#43
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Denmark felab 
Sure he would do worse, but thats not my point. He is better, because he is winning more, and is "scoring the most" on the best team. 4 Majors, 2 this year should guareentee it
2020-01-17 10:57
That's his team's achievements, not his personal ones. He is the best player on the best team, yes. But that doesn't matter that he is the best player in the world
2020-01-17 10:59
skillwhise that is s1mple and zywoo in csgo device isnt even in that conversation skill whise
2020-01-17 10:59
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Argentina n4ziS1mple 
He was top 3 in 2015 Top 20 in 2014 Top 6 in 2016 without gla1ve so he is pretty good
2020-01-17 14:53
#72
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France KamaraD 
He good but he start be God under gla1ve control
2020-01-19 14:03
Depends on roles
2020-01-17 10:49
#36
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World Beard43 
Yeah he's fortunate to be in the best team, without that he wouldn't even be close to s1mple.
2020-01-17 10:54
He would still be close, but being in such a great team certainly team helps
2020-01-17 10:56
he would maybe be top 10 though
2020-01-17 14:46
#52
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Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
who cars? all that matters is winning trophies
2020-01-17 11:01
People who say that just watch stats instead of games. Device is a role player and does his job but that's it, he is nothing special. Zywoo and s1mple are on another level.
2020-01-17 11:06
Agreed
2020-01-17 13:36
+1
2020-01-17 14:46
#70
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World Beard43 
+1
2020-01-17 15:16
When team sucks - he also sucks, nice individual skill and carry potential
2020-01-17 13:36
#68
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Denmark Azyyy 
he would get better stats in a team that's allowing him to be the star player that he is and make plays on his own accord and not in a structured system? yeah, that's totally unbelievable.
2020-01-17 14:52
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