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Sweden Greta_Achtungberg 
Here comes the last stats comparison. You can check the events ranking in my previous thread, I won't copy it here to preserve space. hltv.org/forums/threads/2225295/magisk-n.. ACHIEVEMENTS AND ATTENDANCE Only Zywoo missed 1 top 5 event - EPL 10 Finals Zywoo: 12 events (2 majors, 9 big, 1 small) - 4 finals (2 W), 2 sf, 4 qf, 1 gp - 10/11 playoffs - 16 team: 7 - 8 team: 4 - Blast: 0 device: 16 events (2 majors, 13 big, 1 small) - 8 finals (6 W), 3 sf, 1 qf, 3 gp - 12/15 playoffs - 16 team: 6 - 8 team: 4 - Blast: 5 s1mple: 12 events (2 majors, 9 big, 1 small) - 1 final (1 W), 4 sf, 2 qf, 4 gp - 7/11 playoffs - 16 team: 6 - 8 team: 1 - Blast: 4 Elige: 18 events (2 majors, 14 big, 2 small) - 10 finals (6 W), 1 sf, 4 qf, 1 gp - 15/16 playoffs - 16 team: 8 - 8 team: 3 - Blast: 5 MVP & EVP Only small lans evps are missing Zywoo MVPs: 4 big (two from lost events), 1 small EVPs: 1 major, 4 big (average pick order 8.00) device MVPs: 1 major, 2 big EVPs: 1 major, 6 big (average pick order 3.71) s1mple MVPs: 1 big EVPs: 1 major, 4 big (average pick order 3.60) Elige MVPs: 3 big EVPs: 1 major, 8 big (average pick order 4.22) RATING & IMPACT rating 2.0 (impact, maps) ALL LANS = events with an mvp award Zywoo ALL LANS: 1.31 Majors: 1.17 (1.26, 18 maps) Big events: 1.31 (1.40, 119 maps) vs top at LAN: 1.29 (1.41, 54 maps) Playoff at BE: 1.34 at top 5 events: 1.26 at 16 team events: 1.28 at 8 team events: 1.36 at Blast events: didn't pay device ALL LANS: 1.23 Majors: 1.28 (1.38, 24 maps) Big events: 1.23 (1.31, 126 maps) vs top at LAN: 1.19 (1.24, 81 maps) Playoff at BE: 1.19 at top 5 events: 1.24 at 16 team events: 1.24 at 8 team events: 1.29 at Blast events: 1.18 s1mple ALL LANS: 1.25 Majors: 1.24 (1.16, 21 maps) Big events: 1.28 (1.32, 100 maps) vs top at LAN: 1.24 (1.25, 25 maps) Playoff at BE: 1.24 at top 5 events: 1.27 at 16 team events: 1.28 at 8 team events: 1.16 at Blast events: 1.22 Elige ALL LANS: 1.20 Majors: 1.16 (1.24, 15 maps) Big events: 1.21 (1.31, 147 maps) vs top at LAN: 1.16 (1.25, 91 maps) Playoff at BE: 1.19 at top 5 events: 1.19 at 16 team events: 1.21 at 8 team events: 1.20 at Blast events: 1.18 CONSISTENCY 1.0+ = rating from 1.00 to 1.09 and so on Zywoo -1.0: 0 1.0+: 0 1.1+: 1 1.2+: 4 1.3+: 5 1.4+: 1 1.5+: 1 device -1.0: 1 1.0+: 2 1.1+: 3 1.2+: 5 1.3+: 3 1.4+: 2 1.5+: 0 s1mple -1.0: 0 1.0+: 1 1.1+: 4 1.2+: 4 1.3+: 2 1.4+: 1 1.5+: 0 Elige -1.0: 0 1.0+: 4 1.1+: 4 1.2+: 8 1.3+: 1 1.4+: 1 1.5+: 0 OTHER STATS FROM BIG EVENTS Zywoo KPR: 0.84 DPR: 0.61 ADR: 87.0 KAST: 74.7% 1+ kill rounds: 53.2% 2+ kill rounds: 21.8% 3+ kill rounds: 7.1% Opening K/D: 1.62 Opening attempts: 23.4% Opening success: 61.9% Clutches: 74 device KPR: 0.78 DPR: 0.60 ADR: 81.8 KAST: 72.2% 1+ kill rounds: 50.6% 2+ kill rounds: 19.7% 3+ kill rounds: 5.7% Opening K/D: 1.61 Opening attempts: 22.0% Opening success: 61.7% Clutches: 50 s1mple KPR: 0.83 DPR: 0.59 ADR: 84.0 KAST: 74.6% 1+ kill rounds: 53.3% 2+ kill rounds: 21.4% 3+ kill rounds: 6.8% Opening K/D: 1.73 Opening attempts: 20.4% Opening success: 63.3% Clutches: 60 Elige KPR: 0.78 DPR: 0.65 ADR: 85.9 KAST: 70.9% 1+ kill rounds: 50.1% 2+ kill rounds: 19.9% 3+ kill rounds: 6.1% Opening K/D: 1.13 Opening attempts: 25.2% Opening success: 53.2% Clutches: 50 CONCLUSIONS IMO: Zywoo > device > Elige > s1mple Ranking prediction: Zywoo > device > s1mple > Elige You could make an argument for s1mple > device as he obviously has a lead in stats but it's not as big as last year and he lacks appearances in big matches, although until electronic's placement I had s1mple as #4. Are there any other stats worth noting here? What's your top4 and why?
2020-01-17 15:19
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#1
s1mple | 
Ukraine YUR4S 
fatwho?
2020-01-17 15:20
the prodigy that made p1mple sweat
2020-01-17 15:22
who?
2020-01-17 16:26
#65
ZywOo | 
France coolpix 
+1
2020-01-17 17:08
#68
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Poland s0ze 
+1
2020-01-17 17:30
#71
ropz | 
Europe STFU_M8 
HE didnt , s1mple fucked his gf whole year and chilled at home
2020-01-17 21:34
s1mple got rekt the two time they faced each other. Even being bottom fragging behind his whole team, including Guardian during one map.
2020-01-17 21:48
#85
ropz | 
Europe STFU_M8 
??? Are u high? They played 3 times each other. 1st IEM KATOWICE NAVI won in OVERTIME. So its 2 - 1 and overall its 4-3 (maps) in favour of VITALITY.
2020-01-17 22:01
The subject is players, not teams.
2020-01-17 22:06
Who cares, the most happiest now is Astralis fans, while you argue about useless shit, you have no trophies, no nothing, just #1/#2 spot players, is that good ? That's shit, go watch how your teams losing finals and other tourneys
2020-01-22 10:30
OfcI have no trophies, I'm not a player.
2020-01-22 13:25
#2
COCAINE | 
Brazil oneS2 
hm no
2020-01-17 15:20
tldr
2020-01-17 15:20
tl;dr 2019: 1.ZywOo 2.S1mple 3.device
2020-01-17 15:21
+1
2020-01-17 15:32
#6
Frankie | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
ZywOo Majors: 1.17 (1.26, 18 maps) HAAHHA what is trash list
2020-01-17 15:23
why are so many Ukrainians so butthurt over Zywoo? He was clearly better this year so why all the hate? btw Playoff at big events: 1.34 > 1.24 this is the most important stat and s1mple's is below his average
2020-01-17 15:29
#35
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France Vipair 
Hoes mad thats why their only asset in cs has been dethroned
2020-01-17 15:41
#64
Frankie | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
ZywOo has 4 teammates with <1 kd so he can ez kill LOL s1mple>ZywOo
2020-01-17 16:27
I find it so funny that last year s1mple was the greatest carry of all time and everyone praised him for it (and somehow didn't take into consideration that he had a top4 player at his side) but when Zywoo did better in this regard 'he can ez kill'. The logic of butthurt fanboys is mindblowing
2020-01-17 21:43
#75
Frankie | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
yes
2020-01-17 21:45
Zywoo is better than s1mple in 2019 but he is nowhere close to being as good as s1mple in 2018 and probably no one ever will again.
2020-01-17 23:46
#115
ZywOo | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Funny you say that when this is literslly zywoos 1st year playing big events. If he gets 5% better hell have a better year
2020-01-18 09:31
we will see
2020-01-20 20:14
#126
ZywOo | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
#110
2020-01-18 10:15
no lol
2020-01-18 12:46
#148
ZywOo | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Deny facts = delusion
2020-01-22 07:57
#122
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United States Gatlinburg 
bookmark this faggot
2020-01-18 10:01
XD
2020-01-18 13:01
ZywOo deserves#1 just because he didn’t attend BLAST events
2020-01-17 15:23
#8
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Canada Herodionus 
1. Device/Zywoo 2. Device/Zywoo 3. Elige 4. Simple
2020-01-17 15:23
S1mple >>>> device+elige as combined
2020-01-17 15:28
#15
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Canada Herodionus 
Simple baits team to get good stats while losing tournaments Device and Elite play with team to get almost as good stats and win tournaments elige + device >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>simple
2020-01-17 15:29
Device baits for good stats but still worse than S1mple elige baits and worse than both S1mple >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> device+elige combined
2020-01-17 15:30
#22
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Canada Herodionus 
Xd
2020-01-17 15:31
Xd
2020-01-17 15:31
#26
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Canada Herodionus 
xD
2020-01-17 15:32
#63
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Germany snekkk 
flag checks out
2020-01-17 16:27
#114
ZywOo | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Elige has the most entry kills of any rifler lmao and the 2nd most assists of any player as well as a higher ADR, you don't get that by baiting You stay delusional to defend s1mlple
2020-01-18 09:30
+69
2020-01-18 09:39
#123
ZywOo | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Kids head is so far up s1mples ass he can't even see stats
2020-01-18 10:10
I think you should check out meaning of baiting.
2020-01-18 20:19
#17
STYKO | 
Sri Lanka Slowen_T 
no
2020-01-17 15:30
#9
ZywOo | 
France MrWowo 
It's not just that that sums up the top 1 potential of Zywoo, but it's good
2020-01-17 15:24
You really waste time to prove that Zywoo was better than S1mple in 2019? WOW.
2020-01-17 15:24
I didn't want to prove anything, it's just a compilation of stats and I'm a stat nerd. Did the same for top 5-9
2020-01-17 15:30
Very well
2020-01-17 15:52
Yes i agree /closed
2020-01-17 15:25
get a life
2020-01-17 15:26
4/4 butthurt Ukrainians so far
2020-01-17 15:31
Wrong, I'm a fakeflagger. Just suprised by how boring your life must be if you took the time to write this wall of text only to prove someone that some player is better than the other in terms of statistics.
2020-01-17 21:50
Just suprised by how boring your life must be if you took the time to write someone on the internet that their life is boring because you didn't like what they wrote. btw it's not a waste of time if you like it
2020-01-17 21:53
#87
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Portugal 34itaNz 
+1
2020-01-17 22:05
+1
2020-01-18 10:32
+1 Ukrainians are so dumb, one of the worst countries in Europe and it's even worse than BRA71L LUL
2020-01-18 00:58
I thought no one could ever beat brazilians in this regard but p1mple fanboys are quickly closing the gap
2020-01-18 09:07
why bully mens?
2020-01-22 10:38
#16
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Finland veganisti 
2020-01-17 15:29
#21
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Brazil |LUCAS1| 
+1
2020-01-17 15:31
#24
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Europe NN0ITRA 
Imo it should he Zywoo, device, elige, simple as well but let see
2020-01-17 15:32
#27
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Russia ToughGuy 
leaderboard plays better role for top player than ur shitty logic 1+1 btw KEKW
2020-01-17 15:33
What leaderboard? Care to elaborate what you mean by shitty logic? Or should I just count you in the same group as butthurt Ukrainians? That would be 6/6
2020-01-17 15:37
You know these stats are in the thread, right? Or at least the relevant ones.
2020-01-17 15:41
#37
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Russia ToughGuy 
u just wrote and did nothing with them
2020-01-17 15:42
And what exactly was I supposed to do with them? It's a comparison based purely on stats. The only time I give my two cents is at the end of the thread. I'm really not sure what you're trying to say
2020-01-17 15:45
I think that he tries to say that you put Team achievements over individual performance in a individual performance list like people did in 2018.
2020-01-17 16:15
I honestly don't put any value in team achievements. By listing them I wanted to show each player's relevancy throughout the year device played more finals than s1mple playoffs this year. That has to be taken into consideration, otherwise electronic would've easily made top5 or even top4
2020-01-17 16:24
I told you what he tries to say not me.
2020-01-17 16:25
#28
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Brazil lusketa 
ok, i really think Elige deserve the third position more than s1mple
2020-01-17 15:34
ok, I really think that SG nerf showed us elUGe is bot and deserves nothing :Vv
2020-01-17 15:39
#36
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Brazil lusketa 
ok, you convinced me
2020-01-17 15:41
np mate, let me know if you need something in future
2020-01-17 15:43
#39
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Brazil lusketa 
ty
2020-01-17 15:43
#170
BnTeT | 
Indonesia lukerey 
Yeah like s1mple never use krieg this year. Dumb
2020-01-22 20:23
YES METWO
2020-01-17 15:53
#30
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Greenland kinley377 
+1
2020-01-17 15:38
tldr : Zywoo top1
2020-01-17 15:40
Tldr: zy t1
2020-01-17 16:08
zywoo no win and first place , impossible.
2020-01-17 15:45
he won two tournaments
2020-01-17 16:06
TLDR: Devvek1ng first player to get back-to-back top2
2020-01-17 15:45
i agree with this thank you mr lukovsky
2020-01-17 15:46
It makes my mind clear that device lost another top1..
2020-01-17 15:49
poor guy can't catch a break 5th top5 and 4th top3 incoming, a true god of consistency
2020-01-17 16:06
2018 s1mple and 2019 ZywOo.. if they hadn't played that much, there would have been no conversation devve called as the greatest. imo he is still goat so
2020-01-17 16:14
ZYWOW DEVICE ELIGE S1MPLE
2020-01-17 15:49
#46
LaimB | 
Lithuania Martis 
Yes
2020-01-17 15:50
This is definitely what will happen. But I think dev1ce is more deserving. For him to standout in the greatest team in years is something more special than zywoo. Zywoo only seems so good because the people around him are worse. Dev1ce has equal or better team but he is the standout. If zywoo was put in a team like astralis he wouldn’t be as good. This is why dev1ce is no. 1 for me.
2020-01-17 16:08
+0,5 but zywoo seems so good because he is literally better than every one this year and not because his teammates are trash. No one compares zywoo with his teammates when it comes to top 1 2019, they compare them with all t1 players in 2019. But I agree with you that he wouldn’t be so good if he hadn’t 4 players playing around him.
2020-01-17 16:19
True. They aren’t bad and they cop to much hate. He is just much better.
2020-01-17 16:21
"If zywoo was put in a team like astralis he wouldn’t be as good." That's one of the big fat 'IFs' that I really don't like. There's really nothing to back up this kind of claim. Especially that I could actually see Zywoo performing the same in literally any team because of no ego issues. Can't say that for s1mple aka the team spirit destroyer. The funniest thing is, the same people that praised s1mple in 2018 for being the biggest carry of all time (and somehow forgetting he had a top4 player at his side) are now shitting on Zywoo who did even better in this regard.
2020-01-17 21:40
Especially since Zywoo shitted on FPL before joining Vitality, no matter his teammate were, unlike any other player.
2020-01-17 21:51
For me what Zywoo did last year was even more impressive than s1mple's 2018 hltv.org/stats/teams/players/9565/Vitali.. like how the fuck do you even get to finals with these teammates, let alone winning any events?
2020-01-17 21:59
if your teammates are good enough to get one kill every round each, then at best you end your game with 30 kills. if your teammates are bad enough to never get a kill, then at best you end your game with 150 kills. Said otherwise, any player get their stats boosted by the lack of skill of their teammates. Including players of the top 4. But as you linked, it only boost him for 247 kill at best in his K-D, the +1415 kill remaining can only be explained by Zywoo talent, or good supporting of his teammates.
2020-01-17 22:18
I'm not sure I follow your math, especially the last part with 247 kills
2020-01-18 09:05
#110
ZywOo | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
That's delusional of you. If your teammates arent good enough to get kills that means your losing more and losing negatively impacts ratings, it also weakens your economy so you're taking disadvantageous fights more often. Furthermore increases the chance you will be traded immediately because your teammates are dying and the enemies can focus on you and easily trade you. It also means your teammates arent able to use their utility as often or create space for you to close out the round. Also what team do you think had a higher avg rating the one that won 16-0 or 16-14. Pretty easy answer If they get 1 kill every and you win by a large margain your rating will be higher than if you go 55-25 and lose
2020-01-18 09:26
#112
ZywOo | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Proof hltv.org/stats/matches/mapstatsid/88168/.. 56-23 1.92 (hard win) hltv.org/stats/matches/mapstatsid/83613/.. 26-7 2.06 (easy win) You can compare the avg rating of his teammates too.
2020-01-18 09:27
#53
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Poland Grahdens 
So many delusional s1mple haters. There is no way he will be below 3rd place.
2020-01-17 16:11
Tbh he deserves to be 2nd in terms of individual performance but 1st, hell no. But when we take team achievements in consideration then he doesn’t deserve the 2nd spot. But individual performance> team achievements in a individual performance list when the gap is big enough, like it was in 2018.
2020-01-17 16:24
#66
ZywOo | 
France Qaze 
+1
2020-01-17 17:10
I think the gap is not big enough this time. It definitely was in 2018 as Navi was a competetive team but this year device played more finals (8) than s1mple played in playoffs at all (7). It's not about team achievements, it's just about playing the big matches.
2020-01-17 21:31
#58
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Lithuania LTComedy 
Sorry but Dev111ce
2020-01-17 16:22
#67
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Poland doxa2137 
so s1 > device
2020-01-17 17:10
+1 nice work
2020-01-17 17:40
#72
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Spain chuggo 
2020-01-17 21:34
#78
Zeus | 
Ukraine Najara 
>baited stats >major winner, major mvp
2020-01-17 21:51
#81
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Spain chuggo 
prove me that he baited all these stats. and if you don't know if your teams wins major it's easy to get Mvp even when you were literally much worse individually than a player from your opponent's team.
2020-01-17 21:53
#82
ZywOo | 
Europe vacban 
XAXAXXA 0 IQ LOGIC? it's 100000% easier to get MVP when you are playing with 3 other top 20 players and the best IGL there is.
2020-01-17 21:56
can't an MVP only go to a player in the winning team/one of the finalist teams?
2020-01-22 10:35
#163
ZywOo | 
Europe vacban 
yes, that's why its easier to get mvp when u have a good team. so device get mvp way easier than s1mple
2020-01-22 13:30
oh fuck sry, I misread your comment, thought you were saying s1mple was playing with three bots so he had a bigger opportunity to statpad xd probably because I just skimmed through it. I 100% agree with you.
2020-01-22 14:04
#167
ZywOo | 
Europe vacban 
+1 no problem mens
2020-01-22 14:45
#86
Zeus | 
Ukraine Najara 
ez prof: 0 wins (only StarLadder but that was with Zeus) He bait stats with tier3 teams then when navi meet a tier1 - s0mple only save and play for KDA ratio Example: hltv.org/matches/2337117/heroic-vs-natus.. +11 when 16-14, 16-11 better than all players from a winning team so it's means that He baited all 2 maps
2020-01-17 22:04
logic -100
2020-01-22 10:37
I think Ranking prediction : device > Zywoo > s1mple > Elige - 101 % :D
2020-01-17 21:59
#1 ZywOoO - Undisputed #2 S1mple - Better individual player than #3 #3 Device - Held the angle with awp whole year
2020-01-17 22:10
#128
ZywOo | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
At least he held that angle vs good teams and won matches. Simple farmed groups. Also you clearly dont respect CS if you boil Devices play down to that. His utility, positioning , rotations, comms, and consistency are world class.
2020-01-18 10:19
You miss the most important stat S1mple: 1 GOAT Others: Zero GOATs
2020-01-17 22:17
GOAT at being toxic
2020-01-17 22:20
true GOAT does not choke in the most important matches of his life hltv.org/matches/2303403/sk-vs-liquid-es.. hltv.org/matches/2326427/natus-vincere-v.. 0.72 major finals rating lmao
2020-01-17 22:22
flair checks out
2020-01-17 22:31
another fanboy crashed with arguments you guys are getting worse than brazilians
2020-01-17 22:33
what arguments? A GOAT can always take a nap during a match
2020-01-17 23:00
you should really use my flair
2020-01-17 23:30
thanks what a honour but I have to deny it. I have a Big S in my name
2020-01-17 23:40
tl;dr?
2020-01-17 22:18
#93
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Russia ToughGuy 
hallo ? ur math 1+1 no working get a life better
2020-01-17 22:19
You've already replied in this thread before so I guess you're the one who should get a life. And there is no math here, just raw facts. How about you explain what you mean? You bailed the last time I replied with my arguments. Can you even have a proper discussion or just baiting and telling people to get a life? I hope you see the irony here.
2020-01-17 22:27
#127
ZywOo | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
He wont hes a Russian fangirl who is happy they overrated s1mple for farming group stage
2020-01-18 10:17
#96
RUSH | 
United States ShawnM 
I agree with ranking predictions but s1mple > zywoo > device > elige
2020-01-17 22:23
zy who?
2020-01-18 00:18
Elige got robbed top 3 btw dont forget: Device 4 majors S1mple 0 major Xyp9x 4 majors S1mple 0 major Dupreeh 4 majors S1mple 0 major Gla1ve 4 majors S1mple 0 major Magisk 3 major S1mple major Jw 3 majors S1mple 0 major Flusha 3 majors S1mple 0 major Pronax 3 majors S1mple 0 major Olofmeister 2 majors S1mple 0 major Krimz 2 majors S1mple 0 major Nbk 2 majors S1mple 0 major Happy 2 majors S1mple 0 major Kioshima 2 majors S1mple 0 major Fallen 2 majors S1mple 0 major Coldzera 2 majors S1mple 0 major Taco 2 majors S1mple 0 major Fnx 2 majors S1mple 0 major Fer 2 majors S1mple 0 major Schneider 1 major S1mple 0 major Devilwalk 1 major S1mple 0 major Kjaerbye 1 major S1mple 0 major Shox 1 major S1mple 0 major Apex 1 major S1mple 0 major Smithzz 1 major S1mple 0 major KennyS 1 major S1mple 0 major Pashabiceps 1 major S1mple 0 major Byali 1 major S1mple 0 major Taz 1 major S1mple 0 major Snax 1 major S1mple 0 major Neo 1 major S1mple 0 major F0rest 1 major S1mple 0 major Get_right 1 major S1mple 0 major Xizt 1 major S1mple 0 major Friberg 1 major S1mple 0 major Fifflaren 1 major S1mple 0 major Zeus 1 major S1mple 0 major Adren 1 major S1mple 0 major Hobbit 1 major S1mple 0 major Mou 1 major S1mple 0 major Dosia 1 major S1mple 0 major Skadoodle 1 major S1mple 0 major Stewie2k 1 major S1mple 0 major Tarik 1 major S1mple 0 major Autimatic 1 major S1mple 0 major Rush 1 major S1mple 0 major
2020-01-18 00:50
#111
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Turkey GOATVICE 
device will get robbed top 1 but dont forget #105 -s1mple + zywho
2020-01-18 09:24
#109
ZywOo | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Of course
2020-01-18 09:17
1. zywoo 2. device 3.s1mple
2020-01-18 09:29
#116
ZywOo | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
You also didnt factor in map count elige and device have played 50+ more maps vs Top5 teams and Liquid played 9 more big events
2020-01-18 09:34
I did, it's in brackets next to rating (if available) Liquid played 16 big events Astralis 15 Navi & Vitality 11 so Liquid played 9 more events than who?
2020-01-18 09:44
#124
ZywOo | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
I straight up miscounted when I researched Navi the other day. That's why I should never post without fact checking. But still the map vs specific tiers of teams are important 75 vs 20 in top 5 (gigantic) 117 vs 68 in top 10 (large)
2020-01-18 10:13
The impact of maps played is probably the biggest unknown, I thought I had it figured out more or less but then electronic placed above NAF. What I think they do is, if a player reaches a pre-established threshold of maps played for a given rating they calculate how much he was above/below average and put it in their formula. I'd say there are probably a couple of these thresholds and after reaching each the impact of maps played is lesser and lesser. Or something like that, I'm not sure if what I wrote makes sense.
2020-01-18 10:48
#136
ZywOo | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Doesnt matter the awards should factor in too and elige and NAF destroyed elec and s1mple. It makes sense but if that's the case it's a bad formula
2020-01-18 11:56
I was surprised with electronic over NAF as well and I'm still not sure if I agree with the ranking, or rather how much I disagree. Apart from that the ranking was pretty solid imo. dupreeh and sergej were probably the biggest controversies though the latter gets hate because he ruined too many picks lmao.
2020-01-18 18:44
#117
ceh9 | 
World mukas17 
device clearly best, no one cares about shitting on weaker opposition at small lans, device is a major mvp, zywoo played like 2 times less than device and against weaker opposition and lower stakes. zywoo will probably be first but only to appease screeching 12-year-olds and make hltv staff seem hip
2020-01-18 09:36
Zywoo played more relevant tournaments than device. Blasts shouldn't even be counted as big events hence why I made separate ratings. So how on earth did Zywoo play weaker opposition or at lower stakes? Zywoo: 7x 16 team events, 4x 8 team events device: 6x 16 team events, 4x 8 team events, 5x Blasts He also played 10/11 big events playoffs and 4 finals. It's obviously less than 12/15 and 8 finals by device but the sample size is big enough to properly compare the two.
2020-01-18 09:52
#132
ZywOo | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Destroyed him, you're turning into 1 of my favorite users.
2020-01-18 10:29
<3
2020-01-18 10:49
Zywoo > s1mple > EliGE > electronic > Magisk > device /closed
2020-01-18 09:37
#125
ZywOo | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Only if you're from Russia 0/8
2020-01-18 10:13
Just compare stats
2020-01-18 10:19
#131
ZywOo | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Ur argument is that .04 rating makes up for 55 more maps vs top 5 teams and 2 MVP + a handful of EVPs on top of being much more successful keep trying.
2020-01-18 10:28
okay what the fuck now I know nothing
2020-01-18 20:09
It's hard to understand why s1mple is ahead, I can see that for elige but dev1ce just had much harder competition and played so many more games. It's a lot harder to be consistent long term when you play that much.
2020-01-18 20:32
elec over NAF was a bit surprising but now I'm genuinely confused device played in more finals (8) than s1mple in playoffs (7) and it seems it doesn't matter that much. There probably is some low threshold for maps played in playoffs/finals and after reaching it the difference in maps played is insignificant
2020-01-18 21:11
I get the impression they are weighing ratings and statistics almost exclusively and having little context in which those statistics rest. I think that's easy to fall into when you're staring at massive data sets for a long period of time and a lot of players; making a decision from those data sets. Speaking of which, I'm not sure if it's an oddity since new to HLTV, but can you see why when sorting Top 5 under players for 2019 all matches does it only show players from Liquid & Astralis? hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2019-01.. Also why s1mple is not even showing up in the Top 5 filter for this? hltv.org/stats?startDate=2019-01-01&endD.. I know sometimes database queries can be a very tricky problem to sort through complex relational databases.
2020-01-18 21:18
Well if that's true then it should be easier to recreate the formula. I wonder how much (if any) they have changed it so far. You need to set minimum maps filter at the bottom left
2020-01-19 10:29
#144
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Turkey GOATVICE 
because hltv is rigged and trash , nothing here works right , not the rankings, not the news , not the bans , not the brains of the users LOL
2020-01-18 21:11
#150
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CIS kryto203 
Ok hltv user
2020-01-22 08:46
#151
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Turkey GOATVICE 
ok beta
2020-01-22 10:20
#153
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CIS kryto203 
not even smart Begone baiter
2020-01-22 10:26
#168
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Turkey GOATVICE 
very disabled begone dead
2020-01-22 15:24
#169
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CIS kryto203 
ok these insults are too harsh oh no
2020-01-22 20:18
comparing cs gods to an angle-holder lmao
2020-01-22 08:02
#152
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Kazakhstan Tripper^^ 
Haha, nope.
2020-01-22 10:24
no one cares
2020-01-22 10:31
#157
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Russia Islademuerto 
only simple has 100% grand final winrate, what an animal, clearly GOAT
2020-01-22 10:36
#160
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Poland Hell2k 
device>zywoo close
2020-01-22 10:38
tldr
2020-01-22 10:39
flair checks out
2020-01-22 13:34
#165
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Sweden Probl33m 
S1mple or colzera who had the better prime, I'm getting insane here, my friends are saying coldzeras prime was better then s1mples
2020-01-22 13:42
Vitality
3.58
Astralis
1.33
Liquid
1.15
Virtus.pro
5.22
W7M
2.14
DETONA
1.68
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