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ELiGE WTF mate?
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
So I watched a video from a budget dan m moron that was basically completely stupid and full of delusion. But I came across this: youtu.be/PtV82gJPTSU And I cannot explain not have I ever see this shit before, it was 2015 tho, different times... Would love to know what do yall think about that.
2020-01-18 08:45
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yeah things like that are sketchy, but i doubt hes toggling at 0-13
2020-01-18 08:47
xyp9x-device-dupreeh duo always rekting EliGe axaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa
2020-01-25 14:11
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valde | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Clears all his extra angles. Takes prefires at known spots. Just looks like a mechanically gifted player to me with high reaction speed. Dodges multiple flashes. Shoots where tracers are coming from. I perfectly understand every decision he made.
2020-01-18 08:48
#3
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
Ye nah mate, that really ain't it
2020-01-18 08:50
#4
valde | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Uh? Cool argument
2020-01-18 08:51
#13
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
Nice edit Blyat
2020-01-18 09:06
#34
valde | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Okay yes I edited to improve argument, now give me your counter or concede.
2020-01-18 10:16
#38
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
I didn't say that he cheats, read the fuckin thread retard. You edited your comment cuz you said some illogical shit, thus the "Ye nah mate, that really ain't it"
2020-01-18 10:19
#40
valde | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Then what "havent you seen before"
2020-01-18 10:24
#41
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
I've seen flickery pre aim in tense clutch situations, but I've never seen it "lock" like that so many times in 1 action. Could totally be coincidental, and I don't care that much to write a whole ass piece of argumentation. Cba. But you seem like you like online arguments, you're gonna love it in here then trust me reddit.com/r/VACsucks/comments/epne84/el..
2020-01-18 10:29
#9
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Denmark Alphamon 
That's precisely it. You're looking for something that's not there.
2020-01-18 08:55
are you stupid bro? what EliGe does here is the only thing he can do in a 1v4, in my eyes what is he supposed to do? kill 1 out of 4 guys, and shiftwalk around? of course not, he expects them to trade because they are 1v4, and not 1v2 spread out afterplant. the random quick flicks and prefires is just to possibly, with a very low probability, win the round. and the only way is to take out enemies as fast as possible you sound like the retards on my teamspeak bro. the bomb is ticking at 15 seconds remaining, and they still shiftwalk around flanking completely oblivious to the actual objective. you should take my spot bro, you would fit in there
2020-01-18 10:19
#39
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
#13 #38
2020-01-18 10:20
#67
NEO | 
Canada chedca 
lol is that how you play? prefire the sky they might come from there, at least its wall bangable better than elige here
2020-01-25 06:34
Nice Canadian teams at top flight cs. Not. Do you know what desperate means? Any non-retarded normal team would hide and play bomb timer, especially vs EliGe So elige tries every trick to save an impossible situation vs spread out enemies on overpass, literally most difficult map to clear Fucking noob I guess you struggle with basic cs
2020-01-25 10:09
#75
NEO | 
Canada chedca 
Elige is the one that should have played timer and faked the bomb instead of chasing last kills? Isn't that basic cs?
2020-01-25 12:45
umm... it was literally about to become 14-0 what rank are you? you are incredibly fucking dumb my man, sorry
2020-01-25 14:07
#80
NEO | 
Canada chedca 
What does it mean that the score is about to be 14-0? So what? I'm mg rn :(
2020-01-25 14:31
#5
MeDveDeV | 
Brazil ricca 
lmao if you think thats blatant just watch flusha's clips from 2014
2020-01-18 08:51
#8
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
Flusha is a subject on his own, we know what happened, he knows what happened, and other pros know what happened, but we don't talk about it anymore.
2020-01-18 08:54
#10
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United States kami917 
Lol mad cuz flusha 2000iq
2020-01-18 08:55
+1
2020-01-18 08:57
#12
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
Ofc
2020-01-18 09:06
#15
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United States kami917 
It’s ok mens))) you’re not the only one
2020-01-18 09:07
+1
2020-01-18 09:19
ahhhh...delusional Fnatic fanboys...haven't seen one of you in over 5 years, thanks for bringing me nostalgia.
2020-01-18 09:38
#24
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United States kami917 
So if literally everyone who’s played CS at highest level tells you a player isn’t cheating, you obviously know more than them right?
2020-01-18 09:55
#25
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
literally everyone who’s played CS at highest level told us flusha cheated youtu.be/3185zZ9EHYM But we will never know the truth.
2020-01-18 10:00
#31
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United States kami917 
00:00 Video start 00:05 Shox and Ryu talking about flushas moments 09:58 Richard Lewis and Thooorin talks about Flusha 25:30 Hikos interview with Esea 26:22 Moes accusations regarding Flusha 26:56 Dazed, Semphis and Hiko talks about the vac system. 30:32 Ryu talks about Flushas aimkey on Inferno againts Nip 32:37 Dreamhack Winter 2014 On the cheating scandal 45:50 The famous flusha moments 50:51 Statements from him and the influenced people who support him in his case. Lmao does that constitute literally everyone? You can do better than that can’t you?
2020-01-18 10:07
Shox coming off of being the best and 2nd best players all throughout 2013 and 2014 said he was sure Flusha was cheating and he wouldn't shake his hand at dreamhack winter 2014. All of the Clown9 players thought flusha cheated in 2014. All of the iBP players thought flusha cheated in 2014, Steel confesed to this in an interview with Thorin like 5 years later. If you werent around then i can see you thinking he was legit, im guessing you love Olof in FaZe, went back and watched some of his old material in LGB and Fnatic, im not talking shit to you...but you're getting it wrong pimpim, Flusha was the one that truly brought up the whole witch hunt season to cs like 6 years ago. But just to tackle your ridiculous ad-hominem, YES, I do know a lot more than some random newfag pros in the scene, i've been playing cs since im 5 y.o (2002) , some of the idiots i've seen in GO are literally just peanut brain insane aimers.
2020-01-18 10:01
#35
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United States kami917 
Shox, c9, and the ibp shitcans aren’t great references, especially ibp. All of these guys were getting destroyed by fnatic, ofc they’re going to throw hackusations. Shox is a terrible sore loser too. I won’t say that flusha hasn’t had some fishy plays, but the guy is a legitimate CS genius. He 100% would’ve been caught if he was hacking.
2020-01-18 10:18
mOE got an ESEA ban for cheating and didn't get vac banned in 2015, in fact Liquid almost used him as a stand in for ESL One Cologne 2016 instead of s1mple. So he would've played at a major after being banned for cheating in ESEA online. So to state that Flusha using much better hacks than mOE would've gotten caught by a much more primitive VAC client is just idiotic , in 2014 weapon firing spread prediction was even client sided, much easier to hack no-spread without it being detected. I'll leave it at that lil pimpim , im glad the scene is clean today...it wasn't that way before, have a good one.
2020-01-18 10:38
"im glad the scene is clean today." How sure you are about that?
2020-01-25 06:03
Forsaken bought some shitty 10-20$ cheat and If i am not mistaken, he didn't even got caught by some anti cheat but windows that found out that he has some suspicious shit on his computer, anti cheat that was not in able to detect a 10-20$ cheat and that is recently, now imagine those same anti-cheats trying to catch up a cheat that costs thousands or even tens of thousands of dollars. Just think about it for a little bit.
2020-01-25 06:06
#37
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Sweden Trkmag 
+1
2020-01-18 10:19
#6
God | 
United States xxxhoshi 
elige, especially back then, is known for his high sensitivity. literally all he's doing is reacting to a sound queue / pre firing where he thinks the enemy is most likely to be. he's one of the most mechanically gifted players in the world, don't be stupid
2020-01-18 08:53
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tarik | 
Norway MD! 
xxxhoshi in the chat, You Cloud9 fanboy. Give me ONE reason RIGHT NOW you absolute moron of a human being as to why we should not be sleeping on Cloud9 because the fact of the matter is if you watched them preform at that event - if you opened your GODDAMN eyes that your mother you - err, fucking vagina and you watched that game of Counter Strike, and you used an objective style of counter - of watching anything you stupid fuck you could see that they didn't actually play ANYTHING worth convincing. They played scrimmy CS - do they have individuals that can perform well? Is that gonna win you games against the best teams in the fucking world? NO ITS NOT. So unless they're gonna turn things a complete fucking 180 around, Cloud9 are not gonna make top 8 bro, so just go back to being a Cloud9 fanboy and spamming all your stupid bullshit in twitch chat, cuz you gotta open your fucking eyes you have to watch the game for what it is and stop being - err having bias. This is what people need to stop doing in the whole world: STOP being biased at things because you're part of a tribe or fanclub. Start actually THINKING. If you want to be OBJECTIVE if you want to make decisions in life, you need to use your FUCKING EYES and use your brain. Stop being morons, I'm FED UP with these cunts tweeting shit at me when they're just, ABSOLUTELY closed-minded idiots.
2020-01-18 10:43
#68
NEO | 
Canada chedca 
canjub clearly walking / shooting a wall is not prefiring . only true noobs can not tell this is an oopsie aimbot moment
2020-01-25 06:37
his spray was totally off.
2020-01-18 08:54
#14
North America TL0 
This is not sus at all, he's pre-aiming the 3 most common peek spots when peeking from dumpster and he misses so many bullets. If you think this is sus it's because you'll never come close to having any type of game sense in csgo, and esp no where near professional level.
2020-01-18 09:08
#16
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
You're sus Why tf u attacking me cunt go say that to all the morons in here reddit.com/r/VACsucks/comments/epne84/el..
2020-01-18 09:10
#69
NEO | 
Canada chedca 
we are talking about the shot on bathrooms not the fight at A site
2020-01-25 06:38
Elige known as a starcraft player, so its a high sensetivity, nothin special
2020-01-18 09:12
crisp clean locks boys
2020-01-18 09:13
#23
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
Nt jerman
2020-01-18 09:53
but Dan M is american, no?
2020-01-18 10:03
#30
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
Jerman ancestors
2020-01-18 10:07
could actually explain a lot xD
2020-01-18 10:08
locks onto Karrigan at 0:08 as well as cajunb at 0:20. Kinda sus ngl fam
2020-01-18 09:16
The only thing I saw was his prefire through the wall against cajunb and, I mean he probs wanted to shoot the exit of restroom but missed and shot the wall.
2020-01-18 09:19
#70
NEO | 
Canada chedca 
this is best explanation but it ignores the huge pattern established , he has been locking the same spot relative to target the whole time whether they are aimable or not.. its like a x9 super coincidence followed by , wanted to shoot the exit of restroom but missed and shot wall - the explanation that he is aimbotting is suuuuuupppperr more likely to be true than the chain of super coincidences XD
2020-01-25 06:41
#27
NAF | 
Finland sedatioN 
ELiGE at that time used 2.2 @ 1800 dpi or something insane like that so It's probably just that.
2020-01-18 10:01
#46
2020-01-25 05:29
No cheats here
2020-01-18 10:01
Nice explanation idiot, surely It's a coincidence that his aim goes full robotic and inhuman in an important event 2 IQ, you are as cringe and stupid as your nick, how old are you?
2020-01-25 05:26
Yes it is a coincidence, what else could it be?
2020-01-25 05:35
In an important event, in a 1v4 situation while his team is losing 13-0 on that map*, all just a coincidence, totally not trying to use whatever tool he can to get even one round.
2020-01-25 05:38
Correct
2020-01-25 05:39
And even if u couldn't see him locking his aim through the boxes like 5 times at least then you can just look at the 20secs when he starts shooting at the wall, no good player would do that, no wallbang spot, nothing, just wasting ur mag and giving ur position + making It harder for urself to transfer the spray.
2020-01-25 05:40
Only that flick was weird before he got killed,but maybe he heard the T running and he snapped there,he was way too excited judging by how fast he was flicking everywhere
2020-01-18 10:11
nothing too fishy eliges aim is always pretty robotic
2020-01-18 10:47
Trolling or retarded? He litteraly did that shit like 10 times in that one 40sec clip while even shooting at the wall once, not to mention that It's a coincidence that he did in an important event while also being alone against 4 other opponets while his team is losing 0-13. Like, all is just a coincidence right?
2020-01-25 05:29
#48
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
Lmfao ofc he's gonna toggle at 0-14... wtf is this logic it's literallythe most useless "toggle" ever, if you had cheats you would toggle from the beginning and try to win not only the match but the whole event, not get 16-0'd lmfao
2020-01-25 05:33
I didn't watch the rest of the match but he is just desperate, when u are losing that hard u'll use every tool to get to the win, the fact he is losing soo hard is actually a reason to try to use anything at all costs just soo u can win even one round, I don't know If they lost the map just a bit after the 0-14 (I am assuming they did) but If they didn't then he'd prolly continue toggling to have any chance to get that map.
2020-01-25 05:36
#55
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
0 logic in what you're saying, this isn't your typical MM cheater who toggles his ragehack when he starts losing, you can't apply that to professional play. If you had the balls and the determination to buy a 20k$ cheat and to sneak it on LAN somehow, you ain't gonna let the other team rape you 16-0
2020-01-25 05:41
"0 logic in what you're saying, this isn't your typical MM cheater who toggles his ragehack when he starts losing, you can't apply that to professional play." It's not rage, It's a desperation to get anything from such a shitty situation. "If you had the balls and the determination to buy a 20k$ cheat and to sneak it on LAN somehow, you ain't gonna let the other team rape you 16-0" Cheats are mainly used to give you an idea where are the enemies, If ppl would use them every time they want to kill an enemy It would be way too blatant and when such money is on the table 20k$ is nothing and when you see other ppl doing it too then you do not need to have such a big balls urself to do it, I mean flusha got away with soo many blatant shit and some of those things are just humanly impossible and when u see shit like that getting away then why you wouldn't try to the same thing urself? and result doesn't mean shit bcz as I said, they aren't going to use it to kill the targets but to get the info which can help u but also not If opponet kills u quickly, It doesn't matter If u get an idea where opponet might be If he deletes you in less than half a sec and I won't even talk about potential of other team doing the same thing as Elige did just less blatantly.
2020-01-25 05:50
#62
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
Not reading
2020-01-25 06:18
Yeh, braindead. Why did you replay then? Actually why do u even make a thread If you do not want to discuss about the topic you created?
2020-01-25 06:20
#64
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
Thread is like 1 week old and we already discussed everything.
2020-01-25 06:25
1 week is nothing and all that's been said is all over again the circle jerk of "He is a pro, no way he'd cheat" with a few ppl saying that ppl in 2015 cheated but that It's far gone now, nobody gave any good reason why'd he do a thing he did in 20secs, not a single person. Discussed everything my ass, just history repating it self and hearing the exact same things we did already about any suspicious clip.
2020-01-25 06:30
There is nothing suspicious about that
2020-01-25 05:34
Ye, bcz on 20secs shooting randomly into the wall that can not be wall banged while having thousands of hours in the game completely makes sense. Sure.
2020-01-25 05:57
#71
NEO | 
Canada chedca 
^ #1 stupid person from china
2020-01-25 06:42
why do old cs clips look like they came from the 1990s
2020-01-25 05:59
2014-2015 era of cheats suck, it's funny how we don't see these types of movements anymore.
2020-01-25 06:04
the end was really sketchy
2020-01-25 06:34
#72
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Coincidence he sprayed the wall that lined up. StarCraft aim is on point while every angle was perfectly checked. The xyp clip of him spraying a guy walking past who is behind a wall is 100x sus along with sub shox flusha Stewie etc clips
2020-01-25 06:54
yeah he is cheating and losing 14-0
2020-01-25 10:11
#76
nexa | 
Yugoslavia tomasev1c 
whats there to explain?you think he is using cheats and pressing his aimkeys or w/e in a 1v3 while down 0-13 ? okay XD
2020-01-25 12:48
#79
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Israel BingoBango 
damn he was a beast even back then, pretty cool how he managed to alienate those fights, even though he didn't win
2020-01-25 14:15
#81
Chem1 | 
Spain mokerz 
8000 hours is not the same in competitive mode and faceit as 8000 playing with the best professionals, analysts, coaches and the motivation to earn a minimum of 10k month. Btw elige is a nerd, i mean he have a good brain, his grades in school were all outstanding etc etc.
2020-01-25 14:51
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