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I believe that if a person feels better in the body of another sex and is happier, he is perfect and does not have to bother anyone. Change my mind
2020-01-20 00:13
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Ukraine ReanuKeeves 
Nobody's perfect.
2020-01-20 00:14
ScreaM | 
Brazil HLTVolt 
except you
2020-01-20 01:41
Ukraine ReanuKeeves 
and except you
2020-01-20 01:44
You're breathtaking
2020-01-20 02:02
Ukraine ReanuKeeves 
2020-01-20 02:06
2020-01-21 20:54
Portugal Carlos[M] 
5 gays here ffs
2020-01-22 09:44
2020-01-22 11:42
u mind if i join u guys? i brought doritos and mountain dew
2020-01-23 19:17
hell yeeee, come join brother.
2020-01-23 20:37
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Finland Ipaa 
who cars
2020-01-27 12:10
Finland ToxicDUD 
We exist to better ourselves, ofc we arent perfect ^^
2020-01-23 09:29
Ukraine ReanuKeeves 
Amen brother. Btw name doesn't check out.
2020-01-24 09:34
I dont car Change my mind
2020-01-20 00:14
Get some help
2020-01-20 00:15
I have help, I go to a psychologist who helps me mentally with the changes I want to make on my body to change my gender
2020-01-21 05:00
2020-01-21 12:21
Sweden shonk 
flag and name checks out
2020-01-25 16:51
Europe Qzd 
and you are right
2020-01-20 00:15
2020-01-21 05:00
Poland Hanse 
+1ing someone backing you up is illegal on this website
2020-01-25 03:42
well yes, in fact now that I think about it is a bit stupid what I did but hey
2020-01-25 04:06
United Kingdom HLTV_PATRIOT 
But what about the large proportion of trans people that kill themself
2020-01-20 00:18
Happens mostly due to dysphoria not improving or not being accepted/ being abandoned by close ones, facing difficulties after starting to live as other, desired gender
2020-01-20 00:24
Lithuania Whomens 
join the 40% today!
2020-01-20 00:24
I feel fine rn, changed documents not so long ago, people read me as female, accepted by family and friends
2020-01-20 00:26
Mexico MEXlCO 
Real_HLTV_Man fixed your name
2020-01-20 00:29
Original kind of joke, nt
2020-01-20 00:29
United Kingdom Cosharek 
Do what you want with your body but treat it as a temple, the pictures you put on your Instagram if it is yours are not a great thing to do and it shows you don't respect your body, have a nice day 😎
2020-01-20 01:37
Never too late to have some self-hate. Jk, but yeah, I pretty much objectify my own body because at some point Victoria thought: "hmm, maybe I can have passive income from patreon by e-whoring? But how I gonna get known more to have decent amount of patrons... Oh, let's try to post on Instagram" Yeah, I'm dumb af
2020-01-20 02:46
United Kingdom Cosharek 
Weird flex but okay, Imo that is a bit disgusting but do what you like😎😎👌👌
2020-01-20 02:49
Russia RogueDecay 
look at her face closely and you will come to realisation that she will end her life in lunatic asylum
2020-01-20 07:45
"because at some point Victoria thought" you're a lunatic lol
2020-01-20 08:27
i hate u
2020-01-21 20:18
United Kingdom Cosharek 
Why mens((
2020-01-21 20:31
i checked her insta cause of you....
2020-01-21 20:52
United Kingdom Cosharek 
Baited 😎
2020-01-21 21:01
Serbia TheSerb 
2020-01-23 07:54
United Kingdom Cosharek 
2020-01-20 00:37
Lithuania Whomens 
2020-01-20 00:35
lol welcome back
2020-01-20 01:38
2020-01-20 02:02
You haven't become female until you stop being on hltv
2020-01-20 06:32
Who normal would accept fucking gay population?
2020-01-23 08:57
United States America! 
2020-01-23 19:24
forbid gay actions and clothing on the streets
2020-01-23 20:21
Hello Mr
2020-01-24 18:25
What else would they expect to happen when they mutilate their own body??
2020-01-21 05:12
it's 41% to be precise
2020-01-21 20:11
not true find me a source OH WAIT YOU CANT LOL
2020-01-20 08:26
i honestly don't have time to read an 18 page study, but I will trust you, what part of this study backs you? @@@@@ NVM I SEE UR REPLY@@@
2020-01-20 08:38
„Show me a source oh you cant! Oh wait you can but I’m too retarded to read it“ Holy shit your stupidity knows no limits.
2020-01-24 18:28
Being gay or bi ads about another 10% to the overall lifetime risk of a suicide attempt (straight baseline is 5%). Having a body dysphoria increases it by about another 20%. This means their 41% attempt rate is actually only about 6% not traceable to homosexuality or dysphoria, and that can probably be accounted for by their other mental health issues they cope with. sooooo yea, trans people are just mentally ill...
2020-01-20 08:40
I don't remember gay and bi people being fully accepted by society, they still receive judgment of others. Body dysphoria and inability of truly being yourself as of -not looking as desired gender even after effort put into it -still counting yourself as a gender you were born with as chromosome and genitals remain, even in case of sex reassignment surgery final result you are getting is just a fake. Like rest of you. Trust me, knowing that pains alot. Knowing you won't just be a normal woman, won't reach 100% through transition is a pain. -not receiving support from other people and feeling alone, having to blame your condition as a result which may put you in self-loathing vicious circle and you can imagine results I was talking entire time not just from statistics, but from what I have experienced and people I know/my friends have went through. Know one girl that wants to off herself if her bf leaves her, he won't tho, he truly loves her, but dating as trans is pretty hard. And it's not a complete delusion for her to think what she does
2020-01-20 08:55
"Knowing you won't just be a normal woman, won't reach 100% through transition is a pain" okay so it's nothing to do with society, but how you come across and how you think about yourself. not receiving support? Millions if not billions don't receive support throughout their entire life. literally almost all of the shit you're saying is because dudes are born and they get a mental illness that makes them want to become women. Then they realize they aren't close to women AT ALL and then they kill themselves? truly everything you said reaks of mental illness.
2020-01-20 08:58
Not every person is a strong-willed person to deal with their problems, and I never said it wasn't an illness, disorder, it pretty much is, but only professional approach of it, despite it being a mental condition is transitioning. In my case when getting diagnose and reference that allows legal document change I had appointments to psychiatrist for a month, then medical commission with sexologist, psychologist and psychiatrist.
2020-01-20 09:11
"Not every person is a strong-willed person to deal with their problems" to the point where the suicide rate rises from %5 to %41? like okay gz on ur transition, but is this therapist going to convince you that you're a girl? (you're not) nothing in normal society will change. Weird people will always be ostracized. I hope you continue to live a good and productive life. GL!
2020-01-20 09:17
What is your fucking problem? If she is happier being a woman because it bothers you that she was not born that way. In addition, it is seen that with all the questions and things you say you will not make her feel better, for lack of acceptance and things like that there is such a high suicide rate
2020-01-21 05:13
because it's an insult to real women as simple as that. A man pretending to be a woman it's a joke of femininity and I don't support it.
2020-01-21 06:56
I'm sorry you think that. Victoria is a real woman, and I hate seeing people like you discredit her just for being born with a penis instead of a vagina
2020-01-21 07:17
Europe jvesper 
he is not real woman dude wtf u on about?
2020-01-22 04:04
Ok that is just bs LOL
2020-01-24 18:30
sorry dude but u just got some brain issues.
2020-01-27 11:51
I wonder how productive you are with your life if you are on hltv bullying other people
2020-01-23 21:48
1 semester from finishing a bachelor in applied physics also not bullying it's just the cold truth
2020-01-24 02:19
"Weird people will always be ostracized. I hope you continue to live a good and productive life. GL!" There is a fine line between arguing with someone and bullying them
2020-01-24 19:49
like lol imagine bringing up suicide anyone disagrees with you. Like are you threatening to kill yourself because someone doesnt agree with you? Why didn't slaves in the US kill themselves in the millions then??????
2020-01-20 08:45
Different time, conditions and groups of people? Rn there is no legal slavery in form it used to be presented, at least not in western countries and people live normal lives, yet person who has dysphoria and chooses to transition is being faced with many things that make their life worse, unstable. It's a combo of their own problems and how society treats them for having those problems. If you lower cause of society in that formula my condition with dysphoria*society's reflection in that=how I feel and how good quality of life is percentage would surely decrease.
2020-01-20 09:04
"conditions" you're telling me that 1780s slave time was more accepting of blacks than 2020 tranny times? get over yourself
2020-01-20 09:07
She doesn't say that, or I hope so. I think that slavery is very bad and sure led many people to commit suicide, but the times are different and the problems change, currently the problems we have are much less dangerous than those of antiquity, but our nervous system magnifies it and makes us believe that they are much greater dangers. In other words, our brain relates to chasing a dam with passing an exam, or something more directed to the case, being accepted by the people around us with the fact of not being left behind in the nomadic tribe
2020-01-21 05:19
Sweden TomPony 
Just move to thailand if you want to be accepted as a trans person. Easy as that! You can even start working as a prostitute!
2020-01-31 06:33
Denmark better
2020-01-31 08:11
never mind reading the study helped with context
2020-01-20 09:18
Norway Nikki_96 
people that are unsure,it doesnt matter whether its sex wise or some other reasons ... they might kill themselves but it has no connection,you can be unsure whether you did right option in life buying property changing job leaving someone behind , generaly speaking these are unstable people that can suicide.
2020-01-20 08:37
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United Kingdom lr1015 
mainly bc feeling so uncomfortable with their genitals/body type makes them hate themselves, therefore depressed. If more access to mental health support for trans ppl existed, then those figures would probably decrease.
2020-01-23 12:49
what about transgender individuals who compete in womens)) sport and rekt them by using birth given male superior abilities ? are u saying they cant compete in sports?? but but but they feel better in body of another sex or what? nt'nt
2020-01-20 00:21
United Kingdom Cosharek 
How many trans people compete in sports lul.
2020-01-20 00:38
Does it matter? Would you let them compete, let them have their "rights" and totally dominate womens sport? Or would you forbid them competing and admit they cannot be what they want to be..
2020-01-20 00:53
United Kingdom Cosharek 
I would not allow them to compete in the sports, what I'm saying is that it is a stupid argument to use against them, obviously there is only 2 genders and obviously we can't change them we can only modify our bodies physically and chemically to look like one or another but that doesnt mean that people should laugh or misjudge people for becoming trans, it's what type of person you are inside and what you do for others around u that matter for me and thats what I'll judge you by, not by the fact that you are a guy and you want to live as a woman. Dont judge the book by its cover only dumb people do that and here on hltv we smart we loyal and we all high iq 😎
2020-01-20 01:29
thats all cool , but i dont think you are aware enough to comment on this subject you say you would not allow them to compete the thing is,this is already happening in womens handball: the point is , if converting to another gender becomes common thing , and everyone can just transition whenever they want to , it will become an utter mess in every aspect of life.
2020-01-20 01:44
Trans women are smashing women's records all over the place
2020-01-20 02:03
United Kingdom Cosharek 
Show me
2020-01-20 02:18 Just the first two articles that came up when I googled it but they should give you an overview
2020-01-20 02:20
United Kingdom Cosharek 
I don't think these two count as trans bro wtf, these are just some attention seeking fucks Imo, when I talk about trans I mean something that is a convincing, but anyway I agreed they should be banned from sports but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't be respected, just another human being minding it's own business.
2020-01-20 02:30
Of course should they be respected. All I am saying is that they shouldn't compete in women's sports because they have an unfair advantage and women suffer from it. I read a story about a girl being denied a college stipendium because a transgender athlete smashed the competition, these kind of stories suck
2020-01-20 02:32
United Kingdom Cosharek 
True but the right regulations need to be made for that and since this whole trans movement is still pretty new its still a waiting game, maybe if a competitor is mtf trans then their scores should be adjusted by 20% or something to compensate for their advantage
2020-01-20 02:36
I don't think we have the knowledge to determine how much of an advantage these people have. It depends on many factors like when did the transition start, how much of male puberty did the person experience, when did they start to take hormones and how many, etc.. For now at least I don't think they should compete, maybe lateron when we have more knowledge who knows
2020-01-20 06:57
" Of course should they be respected" lmfao why? Literally why? respect is earned
2020-01-21 07:15
In this content respect means not discriminating them
2020-01-21 10:26
As a trans person... once I started medically transitioning... I lost all my muscle mass and any advantage in sports I had beforehand. Ofcourse, the media will show only those who chose not to medically transition and compete in sports.
2020-01-21 05:44
You're confusing gender with sex. A person's sex is either Male, Female, or Intersex (due to medical anomalies). When someone is born as a male, their body will never truly be identical as if they were females. They will still have elevated testosterone and muscle mass. That is different from gender.
2020-01-31 07:49
stfu freak supporter
2020-01-20 00:26
Europe jvesper 
2020-01-23 07:45
stfu cunt
2020-01-25 15:40
2020-01-20 00:26
they will not be "in the body" of another sex. it's only their mindset and appearance changing, the body is the same.
2020-01-20 00:26
Yes good, but with the necessary and possible changes to be like the genre you are looking for. that is, to look in a more appropriate way to which they feel happier
2020-01-21 05:25
trans people "feel better in the body of another sex and are happier", thats why like 40% of them try to off themselves
2020-01-20 00:33
United Kingdom Cosharek 
2020-01-20 00:40
No man, it’s because they’re being hated every day everywhere. Imagine if you, for instance, made a big tattoo on your face that you thought looked great and then 1/3 of people on the street started pointing fingers, laughing at you and maybe even punching you for that tattoo. You can never get it off your face. You can never escape the hate. I’d probably kill my self too tbh. Obviously, it’s their fault and they were the ones that decided to get the tattoo. But it’s still awful that some people are being hated for the things they do to THEMSELVES. In my opinion, we should all accept that people are free and can do what they wish. Stop hating for things that don't affect you at all. This way, the world would be a lot better and some of the worst things happening today (like neo-nazis hunting down gay people near clubs) would be gone.
2020-01-20 08:31
+0.5, but I think if he is happier with the tattoo, it is not his fault that they laugh or get hit
2020-01-21 05:28
United States sicknasty 
mental illness should not be integrated into society tho...
2020-01-20 00:39
Stigmas doesn't help anyone.... Half the comments on here are proof of this
2020-01-20 01:41
United States sicknasty 
There are some things that should not be acceptable in society. I agree that there should be help available to these people to get better, but it is extremely unhealthy for the individual and society as a whole to be encouraged that this is normal and to make them believe they are something theyre not. There is a reason that suicide rate within this group is so high and i think we can agree that thinking it is because of stigma is foolish.
2020-01-20 05:49
The suicide rates are probably so high, because the manner in which the dysphoria is not something that can be fixed (ie having kids or whatever), sometimes they simply can't afford treatment, or they don't pass... I think ridicule plays less of a role, but I'm sure it still does... I don't believe the de-stigmatization is in amy way detremental to society,so long as it isn't glorified
2020-01-20 06:15
United States sicknasty 
We're trying to de-stigmatize it and it has only led to glorification. What should be promoted is rhetoric involving curing this illness and maintaining a healthy society rather than it being revered and called brave among other things. There is a distinct correlation between an overall decrease in happiness in 1st world societies and modern ideas such as the glorification of mental illness.
2020-01-20 08:22 In Argentina, there are still large numbers of people who look badly at LGBT, and I assure you that receiving insults for dressing in a different way or for being with a person of the same sex, or in this case changing your gender, only generates more depression. Not only does he not glorify here, but not even these things are tolerated. If you really think that society is worse just by accepting the happiness of other people, I think it would be you who has a mental illness
2020-01-21 05:34
United States sicknasty 
You can assure me as much as you please, but that is just not the case. The dysphoria is the absolute main culprit. This is why in areas of the highest "acceptance" of these illnesses (California, New York) have the highest rates of suicide. To suggest that it is the ridicule that drives these people to such horrible mental states is retarded, and to call me mentally ill for wanting to help cure this horrible illness and save lives is honestly hilarious. The ideas I brought up would make it to where these people would escape not only the illness, but the ridicule that you think is so terrible. Why wouldn't you be for that?
2020-01-23 07:16
Again People who commit suicide are mostly for LACK of acceptance, and in statistics all those who never dared to make the change are missing. and the truth is that I do not consider this a "horrible disease", I consider that it is something that in my case allows me to express myself better and more freely. The horrible thing is the people who record me in the street, who insult me or talk about me knowing that I listen to them.
2020-01-23 08:01
United States sicknasty 
This study that you keep linking has literally 0 basis, like some sort of pseudostatistic. Gay people receive perhaps even more ridicule than trans people but attempt suicide at far lesser rates (roughly 15% of gays vs 40% of trans), so your argument about lack of acceptance pretty much has no base to it. It is the illness inside the mind of people that causes this. It is obviously a horrible disease because of the way it terrorizes these people. It is no coincidence that people dont accept it because it is not natural to think you are one thing when you are obviously another, although them being harsh about it is not fair considering you cannot control the illness you have. I honestly feel bad for you, i really do, but you need to look at what youre dealing with from a different perspective. This is NOT natural and should not be glorified in any healthy society for reasons ive made extremely clear.
2020-01-23 11:33
United States sicknasty 
Also you never answered my question. Why wouldn't you be for helping these people rather than proceeding to tell them the voices are real?
2020-01-23 11:40
World Beard43 
Reading your chat with this guy. Well I can relate it back to addiction and denial, similar thought patterns. It's never the person with the disease who is living in a fantasy world that has the problem, not in their mind, it's everybody else. These diseases are so difficult to treat because in the mind of the afflicted, they believe that giving into it makes them feel better when in reality, giving into it is destroying their lives and significantly lowering any possibility of genuine happiness and fulfilment in life. I find this very interesting and it's a challenging situation because typically you can only help those who wish to be helped. It's even more complicated with trans now because bodily mutilation is now an accepted treatment. If I went to my doctor for addiction and rather than sending me to a 3 month inpatient drug and alcohol rehab he showed me a more potent way to administer alcohol and other substances, I would be dead right now. Yeah they've got it all backwards, they're killing people.
2020-01-23 13:12
Ok, I don't understand much English and I think the translator is doing anything, but I will try to answer your question based on what I understand. In my personal case I don't have any voice that tells me anything. if they are told that the treatment is good and should / can continue, it is because according to the evaluation of the corresponding psychologist (in case you attend one, which is highly recommended) it results in the person in question IF you want to perform the change and that is not in danger, this is something that is taken care of enough for the high suicide rate. But then comes the bad part of the treatment, which would be the revelation, at this point you see who accepts you and who prefers to move away by their moral judgments. It depends on the person and the case this can be devastating, since there are people who remain alone during this, in addition to the problems that the change of appearance brings, such as "I do not see myself as I would like" or things like that. Now it's my turn to ask a question, why does it bother you that it's not natural?
2020-01-23 20:10
United States sicknasty 
When i said voices i meant it as a metaphor, but beard is absolutely right. Ive kind of overlooked the fact that some people dont want to be helped, and unfortunately these people are perhaps the most detrimental to society because they think they are normal, and as a result society falls into the belief that it is normal. Its a rough situation and needs to be dealt with somehow.
2020-01-23 21:38
I already told you what I think, I believe that "treatment" so to speak is change
2020-01-23 21:40
United States sicknasty 
Yes but what exactly do you mean by treatment? I assume mental therapy of some sort. But to answer your question, the fact that its unnatural bothers me because it is not what humans are or were intended to be. This is very obvious when you look at the very basics of our race. Man mates with woman, have child, etc. People are not just born in the wrong body, that is an absolutely insane idea that makes literally no sense whatsoever. The real and more concerning question is, why doesnt it bother you or most of society?
2020-01-23 22:20
"not even the majority of the population" is debatable, as always using the example of my country, the vision is very polarized by almost 50/50. But the answer to your question runs the other way. Really throughout the conversation you were talking to a man who is starting the process of becoming a woman. What I believe is that the human being was not created with an intention, or at least, we have not discovered it yet, to exemplify what I say I can tell you about Homosexual people, Simon LeVay's studies show that the brain of the people have certain differences depending on sexual orientation, in other words, a person does not choose what attracts him and therefore, your statement of "Man mates with woman, have child, etc" is wrong. And even if that were the "obedient" of life, what do I care if not everyone follows? that is, in life we do many things that are not natural, what do I care if another does not do what I do?
2020-01-23 22:42
its like telling a person that the things he is hallucinating are real but not harmful they are actually good for you so don't worry be happy,
2020-01-20 00:41
United Kingdom Cosharek 
Ye but it's not hallucinations though is it? Fat people are not usually happy about being fat, unfit people usually wish they where fit, trans people wish they were the opposite gender, its your body let them do what they want with it as long as it doesn't effect me I'm gucci. The doctors need to fix the problems with hormones imbalance and people need to atleast try and accept these people and Im sure the suicide rates will go down, people being trans is still quite a new thing so it's normal that the hormone imbalance still needs to be worked on and it can cause serious mood swings, give me some proper arguments next time baiter 😎
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2020-01-20 01:41
ty my brother
2020-01-21 05:35
nobody gives a shit until they start forcing everyone call them something they are not.
2020-01-20 02:15
Nobody forces anyone, if you do not want to call them by the way they identify themselves, directly do not call them and voila. But it's a kick in the eggs that you call a woman who was once a man with the pronoun "he." Don't call him and don't fuck if it bothers you so much
2020-01-21 05:38
"But it's a kick in the eggs" are you trolling bruh lmfao no fucking way you're not
2020-01-21 07:16
It is a regional expression, also, you know what it feels like
2020-01-21 07:21
nobody forces anyone? have you seen the shit they do in the streets protesting so they can be recognized as a gender which biologically do not belong? Then since they have shitty self esteem they start to commit suicide because their neighbor doesnt refer to them as women because they have a dick
2020-01-31 06:21
and that the neighbor does not speak to him, if you call him in a way that you know bothers him, do not speak to him and that's it. PD: vaginoplasty is the operation that modifies the penis through a vagina, if you are looking for some results, you will realize that there is not much difference between a "natural" and an artificial one.
2020-01-31 06:39
As addition to #7 many people knowing what awaits if they transition simply start repressing being trans, it never leads to good results, they either remain unhappy, with feeling they are not living their life or commit suicide too, those deaths Btw don't go into statistics as noone knows they even were trans. It is, in truest form transsexuality is a mental illness, disorder - call whatever, but only one modern way of treating it is transition, and sadly not everyone can even access such way, many peoples lives become worse afterwards or in process because of society and people around. It's not a political matter or choice for someone to be trans, they developed this way ( excluding trenders and people with agp fetish, I'm fine with them, but since their reason to transition or present as opposite gender are different and it is their choice to become like that I don't count them as trans people) and unless we find another way to deal with dysphoria people like majority of those conservative comments above should think if they really want to cause someone else to suffer or even die just because of wanting everyone to be "normal"
2020-01-20 02:25
Yugoslavia seeeed 
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2020-01-21 05:41
for anyone +1'ing this pls check the instagram and tell me normal is a bad thing .-.
2020-01-23 21:45
I had already seen the instagram before you mention it and honestly it seems to me that the girl is beautiful, I am really amazed at the change. If you don't like it, it's your opinion, I just want you to know that you are talking about a person, not a thing
2020-01-24 21:57
If I can clearly see that you are a dude, then sorry pal, but you are a guy.
2020-01-20 02:51
North America ChillComrade 
If I can clearly see that you're a little bitch, then sorry pal, but you are a little bitch.
2020-01-20 08:25
2020-01-21 20:58
and if only the transition is beginning, I really believe that there is no reason to make a person swallow just for his appearance.
2020-01-21 05:44
Hungary Gombi_ 
If the solution for trans thoughts is to transition, then the solution for suicidal thoughts is to kill yourself right? People like that should be helped by professionals to accept themselves not to force everyone else to accept something un natural and disgusting.
2020-01-20 06:51
I am learning with a psychologist to love me more, but to do so, I have to start the transition, so I am happier, and even more satisfied with myself
2020-01-21 05:46
Hungary Gombi_ 
you do you mate, I just wont support it. Trash talking trans people wont do anything good for anyone.
2020-01-21 20:06
Europe jvesper 
im dont wanna be men nor wimen can i turn to anaconda dont hate appreciate
2020-01-20 07:09
North America ChillComrade 
+1 I like what this man, no wait, anaconda has to say.
2020-01-20 08:25
Europe jvesper 
thank you sir for accepting me means alot to me
2020-01-20 21:36
Troll detected, pls go to play fortnite
2020-01-21 05:46
Europe jvesper 
ok go fight with biology m8
2020-01-21 07:12
Russia RogueDecay 
fucked up statement truth will be exact opposite, patience is key to happiness, and that heavily applies how you should treat you body
2020-01-20 08:02
North America ChillComrade 
I am getting a brain aneurysm reading some of these comments, some could be bait but I doubt many are since people do happen to be pretty serious when it comes to this. I understand it could be how they were raised, how they see they world, and I respect their opinion, but thinking about how they would act on others who are trans would be different. I remember having a trans friend, and switching my "she" to a "he" wasn't hard. It's a simple word everybody, it's not going to do anything to you, and I doubt they will do any harm to you. Judging someone by one little aspect and putting a blanket statement, saying "You have a mental disorder" could be pretty offensive.
2020-01-20 08:37
United States RedPanda29 
Bringing up things that are unnecessary and have no point but to make you feel like you're a good person is really sad and pathetic. Change my mind.
2020-01-20 08:42
It's not exactly a discussion worth having in an online forum, they're allowed to do whatever they want, it doesn't bother me. However, while the whole idea of gender change doesn't bother me, I can't look at a man who changed his gender to female as a female, or the other way around, as when it comes down to the very basics, you can't change your chromosomes, you can get your knob chopped off but you're still by all definitions a man. Also, it doesn't seem to make them any happier anyway as a large portion of them commit suicide. Which makes it a bit of a curious concept.
2020-01-20 08:43
Yes, what the chromosomes say marks something, and yes, there are parts of the body that will never change. but to hell with that, science has not yet advanced enough to change the chromosomes or to insert four organs inside the body, but that does not mean that the person is less appreciable just because they decided to change some things, if a man wants to be a woman Let it be, as long as it is, make it happier Regarding suicide:
2020-01-21 05:54
Denmark slacking 
disagree, it's a mental disorder that must be threated, not let people mutilate themselves
2020-01-20 09:08
Some trans consider it a mental illness, whose treatment is the transition as a method to be happier. As a depressant who takes pills, but in this case they are hormones.
2020-01-21 05:58
true, but they still can't change biology.
2020-01-20 09:18
And who cares?
2020-01-21 05:56
who cars?
2020-01-21 12:29
2020-01-21 20:14
2020-01-22 09:53
Imagine dating a grill which turns out to be not a grill.
2020-01-21 20:10
Troll detected
2020-01-22 03:53
I'm telling truth
2020-01-22 09:40
mens 😳
2020-01-22 09:54
xsepower | 
Russia zj2 
2020-01-23 07:40
Europe jvesper 
imagine having a son and after 10 years he turn out like that -
2020-01-23 07:51
I feel better when I'm balls deep in another body too
2020-01-21 20:11
+69 lmao
2020-01-25 15:44
Nobody gives a shit about your personal sex life/transition just don't shove it in people's faces like they do in Sweden/California
2020-01-21 20:20
Sweden DeeColon 
2020-01-22 09:44
Give me some examples
2020-01-26 06:31
2020-01-21 20:31
Europe Nomarosa 
That's obvious, why even make a thread about it lmao
2020-01-21 21:01
U cant know how it feels to be a woman , if you are not a woman If u werent born and raised as a woman
2020-01-22 09:50
You cant change Gender , basic biology.And i also think that science much more important than someones feelings.I think there"s a lot of stuff that much more important than ur feelings/
2020-01-22 09:54
Finland ToxicDUD 
Mens)) are not womens)) Reality matters
2020-01-23 09:31
nothing against trans people, if you are happier like that then go for it, its your own life, you have to live it not anyone else.
2020-01-22 09:56
+++same , but if someone will start telling me that I should respect and accept that kinda choice , i dont think im gonna do this
2020-01-22 09:59
My problem with trans people and gays is similar to vegans, why the hell do they have to go around and tell it to everyone, act like they are better than others, have parades and all that kinds stuff, be a normal person and i will accept who you are, i just dont get why you have a need to start every sentence with who you are.
2020-01-22 11:39
they like to make drama of it
2020-01-22 12:10
I think I can give you a more elaborate answer. The problem that you have is not addressed so much to gays or trans people, it is more directed towards the LGBT community. And generally what is sought is to raise awareness among those who continue to insult or assault people for their orientation or gender. If you do not attack gay or trans people, etc. remain calm, this is not directed towards you. What is promoted is mutual respect, not showing that someone is worth more. To compare it I could tell you the marches of black people, despite the great acceptance that these people have today, there are still some racial problems, but if you respect them, it is simply not directed towards you.
2020-01-23 05:54
First of all.When i was about 6 or 7 i already learned that gender is not changable.If like to think so , than u need to read a biology book.orientation other thing im ok with that , i dont have any problems with girls who like girls and boys who like boys.Thats your life.
2020-01-23 07:35
Yeah, if you like it in your bum , like to wear a dress, go ahead, be gay, no one literally cares anymore, just stop telling you are a girl when you are not.
2020-01-23 07:44
why does it bother you so much that you proclaim yourself a woman? that is, physically and socially it is. What is the point of denying it? What is the benefit you get?
2020-01-23 07:54
Better question is why do you want to force your opinion on everyone else ? Whats the point of that ? attention ? There are as many opinions as there are humans, why do you think your opinion is the right one ? Cuz its convinient for you ? There is literally no point of arguing if you should be considered as a girl , as gay or as a unicorn. Different people have different opinions so stop forcing on yours :) Btw, i have nothing agains gays and men who love to wear dresses, do whatever makes you happy :)
2020-01-23 09:27
Sorry, I didn't see at the moment that I pointed a gun at you to follow my opinions. also, you contradict yourself, "do whatever makes you happy :)", but first say "just stop telling you are a girl when you are not". I really don't care if it seems good or not, your opinion is your opinion, but it bothers me when your opinion starts to fuck. That is, if you think that is wrong, ok, but you have no reason to tell another person that your decision is wrong. that's my point
2020-01-23 19:23
becouse thats not true if you were born as a man u are man no matter what u think about yourself
2020-01-23 12:41
so ... better if the person lives repressed and unhappy?
2020-01-23 19:24
If a person likes to fuck children, Why not let him do it? "so ... better if the person lives repressed and unhappy?"
2020-01-24 08:52
Very good comparison, a person who lives his life without fucking the rest, with a dangerous abuser for the rest of society.
2020-01-24 18:06
and about acceptance and respect.if someone tells that i have to respect and accepte their choice , well thats up to me.I shouln"t accept and respect something if i dont want it to .
2020-01-23 07:41
LMAO i dont care about someone"s color of skin or something like thats. I will respect or disrespect you based on your actions , not your skin color or the way u look .
2020-01-23 07:43
If you know that gays don't choose to be gay, right? i mean, Simon LeVay did a study about the difference in the nervous system according to sexual orientation. And with respect to trans, of course, a person with xx can't get to have xy, but he can change his appearance to be more like the opposite sex, but beyond that. Is there really a need not to respect a person for a decision like this? It really does not affect you at all, why highlight a person who makes the change to be happier than ever can be what you want so much?
2020-01-23 07:53
Well thats is wrong , you are not born gay you become as you grow older
2020-01-23 08:34
thats a lie , i dont care about some stupid studies but thats a lie 100%
2020-01-23 08:36
I am pretty sure there is much more studies that says that you become gay , not born as gay
2020-01-23 08:45
Either way, if you know that a gay does not choose to be.
2020-01-23 19:16
Coronaz | 
China [0x0] 
2020-01-22 10:04
United States KrypticFade 
who cars
2020-01-23 06:13
Change my mind
2020-01-23 06:18
Europe jvesper 
lets make hetero parade XDDDDD
2020-01-23 07:25
Denmark Gomer_Pyle 
I definitely feel better when i'm inside the body of a woman. Although, after i come i tend to go.
2020-01-23 07:50
Serbia TheSerb 
What the fuck is this post, i've been reading the comments and i almost puked...
2020-01-23 08:00
Serbia TheSerb 
What the fuck is this post, i've been reading the comments and i almost puked...
2020-01-23 08:00
They wouldn't have 40% suicide rate if they were happier
2020-01-23 08:15
Finland ToxicDUD 
Im happy --> im gonna kill myself Big brain leftie logic
2020-01-23 09:30
^people like the last reply is why the rate is so high
2020-01-23 12:43
+1, Most trans who commit suicide do so because of lack of acceptance and hatred received
2020-01-23 21:33
yup, it really is annoying to constantly face it everyday, not fun for us
2020-01-23 22:47
If you went through the transition I wish you the best, I'm glad to see you defending your ideas knowing that they can insult you from head to toe
2020-01-23 22:53
Finland ToxicDUD 
Men are not women, change my mind
2020-01-23 09:30
Men could be women, change my mind
2020-01-23 21:35
Finland ToxicDUD 
Give me one example that is based on objective reality and I will believe you
2020-01-24 15:15
Angel Ponce
2020-01-24 18:04
Finland ToxicDUD 
just because he acts as a member of the opposite sex does not make him one
2020-01-24 18:09
I do not agree with that
2020-01-24 18:21
Finland ToxicDUD 
It doesnt matter what you agree with Objective reality is the only thing that matters
2020-01-24 19:30
Why does it matter? What I propose is something different from XX or XY, that is something I already know that cannot be changed. But changes like these can alter a person's feelings, and if it is for the best, let it be. Why does it matter if it is natural or not?
2020-01-24 19:38
Finland ToxicDUD 
feelings dont matter facts do
2020-01-24 20:29
2020-01-24 20:32
They arent women, dude. The question is whether we should treat them as such. Any reasonable person defines a woman by her sex and not her gender. Jesus fuckin christ.
2020-01-25 15:46
I think that if repression causes suffering for the idea of not being in the right body, the discomfort and the dissatisfaction that leaves a person about himself/herself
2020-01-25 17:25
Your sentence is not complete
2020-01-25 19:20
It's possible, I did it with google translator. I mean that the above can lead to suicide
2020-01-25 22:56
Denmark minidonj 
did u just assume my gender
2020-01-23 12:47
It was a bad translation by Google
2020-01-23 21:34
mens are mens and womens are womens 😎👌💯
2020-01-23 12:53
mens are whathever they want, womens are wathever they want 😎👌💯
2020-01-23 21:36
so I can be an apache helicopter then 💪😎👌💯
2020-01-24 00:02
haha really funny tweet - Dave62 sent from my iPhone 5
2020-01-24 18:34
United States Vollizie 
Why should I respect someone who can't even respect themselves?
2020-01-23 19:20
Maybe I am using the word respect in another way, I mean treating the other person well, not fucking without reason
2020-01-23 21:38
2020-01-24 09:35
2020-01-25 15:47
if you had friends who had problems they couldn't control and felt very unhappy and had a lack of self confidence + respect for themselves, you'd just disrespect them like that? way to kick a dog while its down
2020-01-25 16:55
my friend is a dog ?
2020-01-26 20:14
its a metaphor n00b
2020-01-26 20:51
+1, why people care so much about it lol only 2 genders tho
2020-01-23 19:21
for the same reason as the second sentence, the disagreement between black and white and gray
2020-01-23 21:45
Best sex experience ass =pussy of 2020
2020-01-23 19:22
Finland Smoonah 
yo is Twistzz transgender?
2020-01-23 21:48
Russia GramDEL 
Idk, it's unnatural, eventho I'm not against it
2020-01-23 22:49
This is so wrong and need to be fix
2020-01-24 09:35
2020-01-25 04:13
my gun would like to talk to you
2020-01-25 13:55
i mean if it's not a bother to u, calling a man woman then i guess it's ok but for me it's kinda 'fuck logic' move cause it's just a wishful thinking and not accepting reality which leads to suicide. Playing along doesnt make it real after all no need to change your mind, nobody cares anyway
2020-01-24 15:22
Sweden Ekenstierns 
it's wrong
2020-01-24 21:57
2020-01-25 02:59
Sweden Ekenstierns 
you can't change your gender, it's impossible.
2020-01-25 03:39
You can change your image, the way they see you and how you perceive yourself
2020-01-25 04:07
Sweden Ekenstierns 
that doesn't have anything to do with changing your gender
2020-01-25 04:49
gender isnt necessarily the same thing as sex
2020-01-25 04:54
illustrate me cap, I am struck by your current approach
2020-01-25 05:30
I hate to sound like a feminist, but this is the general idea: Sex is what you were born with, obviously, it can't technically be changed as far as we know Gender is more how you express yourself. For the vast majority of people, there is no conflict, for some though, there might be. I can't really get behind these weird genders going around, but I do believe that people with actual gender dysphoria should be treated as the opposite sex if they wish. (given that they actually make an effort, which is fair imo for all parties)
2020-01-25 05:37
Sweden Ekenstierns 
this is just not true, your gender is either male or female. You can't change it because it's impossible. It doesn't matter if you "feel" like you are the opposite gender. It is just simply not possible to change your gender/sex. btw gender and sex are the same thing.
2020-01-25 15:35
wrong, wrong and wrong. Lets suppose someone forced you to wear womens clothes, would that piss you off or make you feel weird?
2020-01-25 15:48
Sweden Ekenstierns 
you can't change your gender, it's facts.
2020-01-25 16:04
Just because its uncommon in nordic european countries to differentiate between the two, doesnt mean that the english languages operates the way YOU want it to. In the english language these two words have different meaning. But nice try avoiding my argument. Are you gonna answer it or ironically be a pussy?
2020-01-25 16:06
Sweden Ekenstierns 
you can't change your gender. If you are a male you are XX and if you're a female then you are XY. You can't change your chromosomes you moron.
2020-01-25 16:47
Thats your sex you fucking idiot. You might as well say "if you are a man, you love women, if you are a woman, you love men. Everything else is just mental illness". And why are you avoiding the answer to my question?
2020-01-25 16:49
Sweden Ekenstierns 
your question was stupid and it has nothing to with what we were talking about. You are wrong and delusional. Just accept the fact that you can't change your gender. THERE ARE ONLY 2 GENDERS.
2020-01-25 17:40
Oh yes it does have to do exactly with what were talking about. You are just afraid.
2020-01-25 19:23
Sweden Ekenstierns 
go back to school and learn some basic biology please.
2020-01-25 22:44
Ive done that. I probably know more about that than you. Go to school and learn some basic psychology and while youre at it also some pathology.
2020-01-26 00:26
Sweden Ekenstierns 
oh really? You know more about biology than I do? I study biology, maths, science, and chemistry. So tbh I think I know more about this then you do.
2020-01-26 00:38
2020-01-26 11:57
Sweden Ekenstierns 
i am from sweden, so actually you have no idea what the courses are called. I made a mistake, it's supposed to be physics and not science.
2020-01-26 15:59
"I have no idea what the courses are called" and yet it was obvious that no course would be called physics. And frankly, I find it funny that you literally study 4 broad disciplines at the same time. Is that the "Da vinci course" at the "200+ IQ University"?
2020-01-26 16:45
Sweden Ekenstierns 
It's different in Sweden compared to the shit country that you live in. I'm still in school and it's kinda obvious that you should go back to school.
2020-01-26 17:40
wait so youre not in university but in fucking high school? AHAHAHA that explains a lot, grow up son.
2020-01-26 19:31
Sweden Ekenstierns 
yep, I have 1 year left until univeristy and I will probably be more successful than you are.
2020-01-26 19:59
Dude, you have tried to pass yourself off as someone you arent in order to intimidate me into thinking you have even the slightest clue of what the fuck you are talking about but in the end its exactly as I said in #277. Fucking know-it-all. Youre probably 17 years old and actually think you have a clue. Just a word of advice, the alt-right may seem dope and edgy, but in the end they are just the awkward embarassing kind of edgy that think they got it all worked out by shitting on everyone and dismissing actual science for things that are ultimately their emotion-based opinion. Ok I am done ranting, go to sleep, kiddo, you gotta get some good grades tomorrow so you dont get spanked by mommy.
2020-01-26 21:50
Sweden Ekenstierns 
ur probably 35 and living in ur mums basement. The fact that u took ur time to write all that down tells me a little about how sad you actually are.
2020-01-26 22:47
trans girls > girls
2020-01-25 04:14
+1, I do not understand why the Trans part is added, it serves to exemplify and ready
2020-01-25 05:36
Portugal NabasKi 
There are probably prettier trans girls than some girls tbh
2020-01-25 17:00
2020-01-26 06:18
ofc it's true
2020-01-25 04:23
I mean that could be fine, but do you know what PERFECT is? perfect is when i take a long hard turd and when i wipe my ass It's white clean paper, such an amazing feeling
2020-01-25 05:35
2020-01-25 05:37
you mentioned a perfect, i had to explain what a true perfect is XD
2020-01-25 05:48
Portugal NabasKi 
+1 you're also helping the environment by saving paper
2020-01-25 16:59
ITS MAAM no but seriously, the real question is whether someone should be forced by law to call a trans-person their preferred pronoun or not. And thats kind of a difficult question. It depends on the circumstances I would say.
2020-01-25 15:49
Portugal NabasKi 
I believe that if you want to do it then do it and stfu and live your normal life, I'm okay with it, you're a person like any other so I beg you people to stop with that snowflaky stuff
2020-01-25 16:58
2020-01-27 11:44
Chem1 | 
Spain mokerz 
yes but at least get tatooed with a mark or something, so he/she cant b8 anybody
2020-01-26 00:28
I think it's perfect, Jews should also wear tattoos like that, why not give them serial numbers?
2020-01-26 06:17
Chem1 | 
Spain mokerz 
+1 bro people have to know who is a scammer and a sneaky baiter
2020-01-26 15:56
If you're born a gender you stay the gender. End of discussion. We're at the point in time where you make anything happen and people just do it because they feel like it. In 1950 you couldn't change your fucking gender, people didn't even think about it. But now that you can just do it people do it. And most trans people regret it anyways.
2020-01-26 00:34
It is not the same that is not done with not thinking, could have the feeling and was not carried out by repression. Or are you going to tell me that there were no homosexuals in 1950?
2020-01-26 06:15
learn english
2020-01-27 11:40
Monkey | 
Poland $o$ 
Flair checks out
2020-01-26 22:51
not gonna try u are completely right
2020-01-27 12:19
Nt trans
2020-01-31 07:44
it's strange to me that right wingers want government to leave regulations alone in business but when it comes to someone wanting to just be comfortable with themselves, not bothering or affecting anyone, suddenly that's just wrong and the government should make them be 'normal'. just leave trans people alone, they aren't doing anything to you. calling someone 'she' when they were born as a male, what difference does it make to you? is that really the hill you want to die on? it means infinitely more to them than it does to you - so be a good human being, and compromise to let them live their life and everyone can be happy. there's nothing to be gained from being angry at them for what they wanna do with their own body.
2020-01-31 07:59
Is that there really is no reason to get angry with a person for the change of gender, if it does not affect anyone, but it is the same
2020-01-31 20:16
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