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"Good" taste in music/books
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United States BubbleFlames(BestNaUser) 
What is considered a "good" taste in music and books? Don't tell me it's personal preference, because it isn't. For example, someone who is REALLY into movies, and knows a lot about the production and writing of movies, would 100% say that "The Godfather" is better than "Avengers: Endgame." If you asked people who are only mildly interested in films what their favorite film is, you would get a large variety of answers. However, if you asked people who are very interested in films what their favorite film is, you will probably get many similar answers, specifically one of these: prntscr.com/qqh5ag So what is the book counterpart to "The Godfather," and what is the music counterpart? If you don't understand the point I made above, don't bother commenting your opinions )))
2020-01-20 23:04
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2020-01-20 23:04
#76
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Poland Hanse 
+1 "what's the best color to paint my wall? Don't tell me it's personal preference, because it isn't."
2020-01-21 02:33
"If you don't understand the point I made above, don't bother commenting your opinions"
2020-01-21 02:34
#81
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Poland Hanse 
I understand your point but it's widely retarded. You want classics that are objectively best, not favourites. And "taste" is absolutely personal.
2020-01-21 02:37
Yes, objectively best. You knew that is what I was trying to say, so why comment anything else?
2020-01-21 02:40
#84
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Poland Hanse 
Cause your basic point, and simulatenously post opener, contains critical internal mistake that needs to be explained before continuing discussion. And cause we already got over it: Strugackys Stalker, sci-fi classic Lord Jim & Hearth of darkness, good opening for light psyhological literature Orwells Animal Farm and 1984, good political commentaries Huxleys Brave New World Mad Blake is good poetry opener (or Omar Chajam if you are gov hitman)
2020-01-21 02:51
Okay thanks))) I'll check those out
2020-01-21 02:51
#135
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United States fade4182 
What grade are you? If you’re in high school u should be familiar with brave new world, 1984, animal farm, anthem, lord of the flies, to kill a mockingbird, etc.
2020-01-21 06:20
Is this entire post fed through google translate? What else could you expect from someone who likes Orwell.
2020-01-21 03:41
#167
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Poland Hanse 
Ok darling, go back to reading The Witcher or Twilight or whatever you consider valuable literature
2020-01-21 11:04
+1
2020-01-21 16:36
but it is a personal preference
2020-01-20 23:05
#144
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Australia CaZeR01 
+1 personal preference and what you are brought up listening to is all there is to it. literally 0iq thread
2020-01-21 07:01
#3
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Switzerland hosken 
there's always gonna be these hipsters listening to weird ass underground music. there's no such thing as good taste in music. we all like what we like
2020-01-20 23:05
#9
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Poland WildM 
This
2020-01-20 23:09
#16
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Brazil hava 
some things are objectively worse than others though
2020-01-20 23:16
#26
Estonia 1922 
no
2020-01-20 23:24
#28
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
angelic 2 the core
2020-01-20 23:25
#31
Estonia 1922 
Still, no, there's just a consensus that Angelic 2 The Core is bad.
2020-01-20 23:27
#4
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Czech Republic Rewask 
Well considering The Godfather was based on a book, probably that one would be its counterpart...
2020-01-20 23:05
#5
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
i've spent like my entire life gaming and i gotta say y'all have a shit taste. only pc games and story games with no gameplay
2020-01-20 23:06
#48
WARDELL | 
Canada ZHF 
What kinds of games do u like
2020-01-20 23:59
#50
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
platformer, adventure games and some chill shit stuff like super mario galaxy, celeste, botw, twilight princess, half life 2, stardew valley, cities skylines, smash bros ultimate and hollow knight.
2020-01-21 00:01
#57
WARDELL | 
Canada ZHF 
We have a lot of similar tastes then, other than CSGO and Far Cry 5 I only play platformers. This is a mainly CSGO forum so a lot of users here probably aren't the same audience as other games
2020-01-21 00:19
#60
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
true tbh but i've seen a fair share of platforming bros on this site
2020-01-21 00:26
#73
WARDELL | 
Canada ZHF 
yeah there's quite a few of us
2020-01-21 01:29
+1 great taste
2020-01-21 01:06
Playing taillight princess right now Like tradition the water temple is infuriating
2020-01-21 01:51
Actually, I thought that on my first time through. But on a 2nd playthrough last month it actually seems like a straight path. The snow temple infuriated me the most with those broken as FUCK ice spear dudes
2020-01-21 03:21
I am missing the dumbest shit that wasnt a problem in the goron and forest temple Like missing ladders that are right in front of my face
2020-01-21 04:29
#165
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
fuck that level. other temples are hype tho. also the zant battle is my favorite boss of all time.
2020-01-21 09:42
have you got ori and the blind forest?? awesome game man ! and second game is on the way
2020-01-27 04:03
How many hours have u spent in all those games? Just curious
2020-01-21 04:03
#166
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
idk i'd say 1.5k hours on the games mentioned in #50
2020-01-21 09:44
Lol batman the dark knight on 4, says it all
2020-01-20 23:07
Point of your comment?
2020-01-21 07:24
It was bad movie
2020-01-21 16:28
If you think dark knight is bad, what movies do you think are good?
2020-01-21 16:30
Batman the dark night series was a bad batman, didn't like the character.
2020-01-21 16:35
wtf? meaning...
2020-01-21 15:49
bad movie
2020-01-21 16:28
#7
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Finland Smoonah 
2020-01-20 23:07
<3 Deftones
2020-01-20 23:49
Book in 2020
2020-01-20 23:09
#22
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong void0 
Still best "time spender" beside games with good single campaign.
2020-01-20 23:19
music: Queen Metallica Led Zeppelin
2020-01-20 23:09
#46
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China SwooksarV2 
So boomer music and edgy shit. Nice.
2020-01-20 23:57
wtf mens((( Only Metallica is edgy shit out of those
2020-01-21 00:07
#106
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World Beard43 
What's edgy about Metallica?
2020-01-21 04:09
metal is edgy for some people
2020-01-21 15:47
#183
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World Beard43 
Huh. Okay then, ty men.
2020-01-21 16:42
Turning boomer into a compliment I see
2020-01-21 00:39
#132
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Australia sad_faze_fan 
Ew queen
2020-01-21 05:55
I also dont like it very much, but everyone seems to love it
2020-01-21 15:46
#174
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Australia sad_faze_fan 
It’s not bad music just overplayed, oversaturated, to the point that it does become overrated.. so many better bands out there and these peoples just listen to queen mens very annoying
2020-01-21 15:50
+11111 but "good taste" often means overrated
2020-01-21 15:52
Taste is purely subjective. The idea of "good taste" is retarded.
2020-01-20 23:12
But do you not think that someone with a bigger knowledge of a subject would have a "better taste" than someone without knowledge?
2020-01-20 23:14
#33
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
this
2020-01-20 23:29
#69
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Finland mayrakoira 
To an extent sure, but not everyone has the same kind of knowledge and not everyone with the same amount of knowledge have the same taste. But if you're referring to someone having better taste in lets say music because they know more about the instruments or the theory etc is just false. They have knowledge withing their own field/genre yes, yet they might not know two shits about other genres or modern music in general. Music is an evolving form of art, and you can't compare something like let's say classical music and rap, because they are different forms of music with different standards. Something can be better within it's own genre, but comparing different forms of art is not something that can or should be done. Because THAT is an opinion. You can't say a fruit is objectively better than the other, but you can say that for example there are better quality oranges than others. Same with anything really. You can compare the quality within a things own category, but you shouldn't compare categories, because that is taste and you don't compare taste. TLDR: Yes and no.
2020-01-21 01:04
#169
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Czech Republic CyberBOT 
Agreed, plus different focus groups would have different standarts in what is considered good taste even in the same category
2020-01-21 11:14
very well explained and TLDR best.
2020-01-21 15:51
But it IS about personal preference, what is it that you dont understand about it? Edit Maybe you understand it but you just dont like it and wish it wasn't true.
2020-01-20 23:14
#13
2020-01-20 23:14
But those things are bullshit, like the Oscars and the Nobel prize for example, they give the prize to who THEY want to give it to (which means that it's their taste) Knowledge about art and such is knowledge about taste and not truth. There are good and bad shoes to wear if you are going out into space but there is no way that you can tell anyone about good music to listen to because there are no real criterias for that, there are only opinions.
2020-01-20 23:18
#15
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United States sorcrcrc 
taste is entirely subjective
2020-01-20 23:14
#17
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United States me_0_major 
music counterpart is probably beethoven's 9th, book counterpart is harder i'd maybe go with Lolita or Brothers Karamazov
2020-01-20 23:16
Thanks
2020-01-20 23:18
#20
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Hong Kong void0 
If you suggest 10 random tracks to a random user and he likes 9 out of 10, no matter if he enjoys those music genres or not. Same with books. edt. Really? You did watch 12 angry men and not LOTR:return of the king? Wow, i couldnt imagine ppl like this exist :D edt2. top10 movies in no particular order (i am lying - fight club is #1 movie of all time) : - godfather 1 - godfather 2 - fight club - seven - schindler's list - city of god - interstellar - blade runner (original one) - memento - smthn from tarantino (hard to say jsut 1 movie, its probably django, hateful8, reservoir dogs or inglorious bastards) (if you count gf1/gf2 as single movie - then add star wars ep5 i guess)
2020-01-20 23:26
#185
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Portugal NMS467 
What about Tarantino's Once Upon a Time in Hollywood? It's a great movie too, I already knew the story of Sharon Tate's murder maybe that's why I think it's one amazing movie it gave me other emotions watching it
2020-01-21 16:52
#186
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong void0 
The 4 i listed above are my most favorite movies from Tarantino (maybe just IG is just slightly worse than another 3). Jackie brown is runner-up to those 4 :P
2020-01-21 17:26
not seen LOTR the return of the king?
2020-01-20 23:19
I saw it a few years ago but I have meant to rewatch it, don't remember much of it.
2020-01-20 23:22
Just wondering, since you did not rate it yet
2020-01-20 23:28
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MeDveDeV | 
Brazil ricca 
2020-01-20 23:23
#117
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Lithuania arres 
lol on hltv Br people are always putting a smile on my face
2020-01-21 05:13
its great!
2020-01-21 05:46
this post is so shallow, you are probably too young for me to insult you, gl and hf on your journey
2020-01-20 23:24
Yes, it's an EXTREMELY simple point I'm making and it goes over all of your heads... hltv.org/forums/threads/2228268/good-tas..
2020-01-20 23:25
the fact that you assumed I meant that the concept of good taste is invalid is just sad, your understanding is shallow and that is what I pointed out, you seem really inexperienced, this looks like a random thought without any depth or consideration, I will not reply further you are just young, the barrier is huge
2020-01-20 23:44
It's a very straightforward question I'm asking, I don't understand why people are so confused #17 was a good answer
2020-01-20 23:47
#52
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Sweden Rezeter 
confused? you just dont seem to have any understanding
2020-01-21 00:08
You all say this and give no explanation whatsoever I don't understand why you comment on my thread in the first place if you don't wish to answer my question
2020-01-21 00:11
#118
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Lithuania arres 
lol when you talk like this it is very hard to imagine you deny concept of good taste. It seems that you are very fond of yourself and thus your own taste in things is this you, sir? liberaldictionary.com/wp-content/uploads..
2020-01-21 05:18
when you talk like that it is very hard to imagine that you put any thought into your joke, it seems that you are very fond of using bland images in order to make light of others and thus derailing the topic in its entirety also i never denied the concept of good taste anywhere, so 0/8
2020-01-21 16:51
#192
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Lithuania arres 
you forgot to tip the hat
2020-01-21 19:22
I've noticed it too, he might be just baiting soo don't take ppl like him too close to ur heart, I did it and It just made my shitty life feel even worse. Gl and have a nice day!
2020-01-20 23:37
This is hltv. I don't bait, but when I ask simple questions, I want simple answers. I don't want to talk about my life philosophy, this thread is not about that
2020-01-20 23:50
wint3r is always toxic even though he criticises other people for it
2020-01-21 02:38
There are experts in rock music, experts in Rap, Experts in EDM, Experts in Classic music, so no, there is no good music and bad music, just tastes...
2020-01-20 23:25
#34
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Japan Fanta_machine 
IMDB "movie experts" are literally no better than Marvel fanboys
2020-01-20 23:31
might be, but still imbd top10 list easily beats the shit out of anything marvel has ever produced
2020-01-20 23:42
IMDB top 10 list is a farce to anyone who has spent a modicum of time researching film.
2020-01-21 03:38
#35
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Peru TheJuan 
Basically Old=good New=Bad
2020-01-20 23:32
#37
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Germany Xantennn 
good = things you like for yourself bad= things u dislike dont let ppl tell you what u have to listen or not
2020-01-20 23:40
Music counterpart might be Radiohead, great production value, interesting and innovative songwriting. Same with Björk.
2020-01-20 23:40
smashing pumpkins beats radiohead any day only high & dry is radiohead's good album
2020-01-21 04:14
I guess this where the personal preference part comes in. I love "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness", but this is where it ends for me. I don't think any SP album can beat "In Rainbows" or "Kid A"
2020-01-21 12:49
Idk about books, but there is no such thing in music. Ask some of the biggest musicians throughout history and every time you'll get a different answer
2020-01-20 23:55
personal preference. if it makes you feel good, thats what your about. dont ever compare your taste with anyone else
2020-01-20 23:57
the only things widely considered "good taste" are classics, no matter the medium. same for music, books, films, whatever. other than that, there's no such thing.
2020-01-20 23:58
Yeah, guess you're right
2020-01-20 23:59
#54
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Sweden Rezeter 
finally
2020-01-21 00:10
Do you notice how he gave a very good and simple answer instead of blabbing about how "confused I am"
2020-01-21 00:12
Book: Stuff like Ulysses or The Brothers Karamazov Music: Not really a correct "taste" in music since there are so many different genres
2020-01-21 00:09
Thanks ))
2020-01-21 00:12
I doubt you've read the entirety of either.
2020-01-21 03:56
No I haven't, I was just using them as examples.
2020-01-21 04:19
#59
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Canada Bucket0 
You are a sheep my friend
2020-01-21 00:13
#61
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Yugoslavia seeeed 
No such thing as objectively good taste. It varies from person to person and is highly subjective. Also a big factor is what kinda music circles you talk to. For example a punk nerd would say you got a good taste if you list him some NY hardcore or dbeat bands. And whilist to that punk nerd that is "good taste". It would not be the same for a fan of indie rock. To that person math rock and midwest emo among others would be an example of good taste. This goes on and on.
2020-01-21 00:33
#62
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Yugoslavia seeeed 
And since there is no criteria which says what exactly is good taste. We can all just endlessly argue pointless "bro my taste better cuz bro" arguments.
2020-01-21 00:38
Scarlxrd Lil pump suicide boy lil beep
2020-01-21 00:41
garbage
2020-01-21 02:36
#65
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United Kingdom Lightning_DC_ 
As a musician myself (drums), I consider a "good" taste in music to be music that inspires me to play more, learn more about my craft and improve as a musician, as well as stimulating my imagination in ways that most music doesn't. I can't do that listening to radio music, which helped lead me, along with a good friend who is a talented musician himself, into prog rock, fusion and metal.
2020-01-21 00:41
#66
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United States VadeCS 
Flair Checks out
2020-01-21 00:46
Anyone saying it's personal subjective is a retard. There IS a formula for beauty, there IS a formula for ugly. If any of you studied art and how the colors, shapes, contrasts, position, etc worked you would know there are formulas for stuff. Concerning "quality" books and movies it's a matter of how envolving and interesting the story is, how interesting and deep the characters are, the emotions, and the overall picture you paint in your brain based on the words. one example of beauty: youtube.com/watch?v=GMkmQlfOJDk one example of uglyness: youtube.com/watch?v=iCEDfZgDPS8 BOTH ARE MADE WITH ABSOLUTE QUALITY Most music nowadays is garbage, specially trendy/radio music
2020-01-21 00:49
Very interesting and makes sense. Thanks
2020-01-21 00:58
#137
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Yugoslavia seeeed 
Ah yes music is objective and the criteria set for judging it were set centuries ago with classical music. Not like that criteria doesnt mean shit when judging 90% of todays musical output and p much only makes sense when talking about classical. Expected from a pseud
2020-01-21 06:29
So you're saying it's completely random that the vast majority of popular songs follow the same keys, chords and patterns that statisticaly are better percieved as "atractive" by the population? Ever wondered how some producers keep doing hits after hits for decades and to many artists? You're an imbecile. It's all following a formula, music can be, to a degree, compared to a language like maths. It's not random. Expected from a moron
2020-01-21 07:13
#155
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Yugoslavia seeeed 
I am aware of how popular hits are made you dumbfuck. Every genre follows its own formulas, but how the fuck are you gonna judge if the formluas used in grindcore are good or bad using criteria set to specifically judge classical music? Simply put you cant. Or better yet. You can, but with results that wont even indicate what the actual quality of the song/album is.
2020-01-21 07:24
#158
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Yugoslavia seeeed 
Also you didnt even reply to my comment. You just went on and kept on spewing the usual pseud rhetoric bullshit.
2020-01-21 07:26
Who the fuck said im applying classical formulas to everything? I gave two examples. If you're too stupid to understand that and are incapable to interpret a context, i don't want to talk to you. Dont reply back
2020-01-21 07:34
#71
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Poland Adisky 
For me godfather is boring, acting is bad bcs too much tryharding. It's about taste
2020-01-21 01:07
Good books are things penned by authors like Vonnegut, Huxley, Tolkien, Dostoyevsky, etc Bad books are things penned by the likes of J K Rowling. I like Harry Potter but it is objectively poorly written. Meaning you can like objectively bad art, but it's still bad You can judge books and movies very similarly, with the differences being things like "was the opening paragraph answering a prime question or establishing something important?" As for music, that is actually hard to answer. Objectively, rap isn't good music. Simplified beats does not equate to musical talent, just like most pop. Being good at a single aspect of music also does not equate to good music (a good singer does not alone make a song good, good lyrics do not alone make a song good). Music is a sum of it's parts. Only plebs will disagree that there is such a thing as objectively good or bad art in any form, but I can give good recommendations if you're actually serious. Edit: to clarify, I like some bad stuff too. My taste includes some of it. I even actively dislike some objectively good art. However, I do enjoy plenty of good stuff!
2020-01-21 01:26
Hmm, okay. What are your recommendations?
2020-01-21 01:32
For books there's plenty of classic literature that is extremely well written The Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde Sirens of Titan by Kurt Vonnegut (Actually, I love Kurt Vonnegut so much and recommend anything by him) Dracula by Bram Stoker Don Quixote by Miguel de Cervantes 1984 by George Orwell For Whom the Bell Tolls by Ernest Hemingway Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury Lorna Doone by R. D. Blackmoore Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy Catch 22 by Joseph Heller There's SO many more I could list, but I'd do so in a private message if you were REALLY interested
2020-01-21 05:14
#187
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Hong Kong void0 
No Melville's Moby-Dick, nothing from Remarque. Get out of here, your taste sucks lol :D
2020-01-21 17:29
Hilarious comment. You'll find it as comedic as I in a few years as well.
2020-01-21 03:36
let me guess, youre 18 and think that any critical look at art is "cringe" fuck off kid
2020-01-21 05:02
"Critical look at art" ??? Do you have a learning disability? Your American school curriculum taste in literature is all I need to know that you are posturing, and or young. If you aren't young I apologize, but it's more embarrassing for you.
2020-01-21 07:00
If you can't understand the concept of an art critic I really don't wish to engage you.
2020-01-21 07:01
The fact that English is my second language and you have a more tenuous grasp on it than I is really embarrassing. You would think that someone who claims to write "art criticism" for money would have obtained some ability of reading comprehension.
2020-01-21 07:04
You failed to convey what you really meant. It is not a leap in logic to assume that you typing "Critical look at art" ??? Do you have a learning disability? means that you do not understand what a critical look at art, i.e. an art critic, means. I think you just need some attention and desire some acknowledgement for your own perceived intelligence. If anyone is posturing, it is you. I've read your other comments, you are insufferable
2020-01-21 07:10
I'm laughing at your phrasing, as it sounds like something my fourteen year old brother who can't speak English would write. Fourteen is indeed the age demographic for Bradbery, Orwell and Vonnegut however, so I guess that makes some sense.
2020-01-21 07:18
No, there is no age demographic for Vonnegut or Orwell. But I can see you really enjoy attempting to get other people to congratulate you for your taste. My recommendations are great for someone starting to explore literature like the OP is. None of these should bore him or confuse him. Though I can see you just are here to stroke your own ego, not here to actually help someone
2020-01-21 07:20
Dude, can I please read one of your analytical essays? It would make my day.
2020-01-21 07:24
God, you are such a sciolist it actually hurts to talk to you. I can't deal with your insufferable self any longer. Goodnight
2020-01-21 07:27
AHAHAHAHA. I just asked to read one of your critical looks at art, where is the problem?
2020-01-21 07:37
"Only plebs will disagree that there is such a thing as objectively good or bad art in any form, but I can give good recommendations if you're actually serious. Edit: to clarify, I like some bad stuff too. My taste includes some of it. I even actively dislike some objectively good art. However, I do enjoy plenty of good stuff!" Imagine writing this as a native English speaker who graduated from school, and not feeling any embarrassment. And then having the cognitive dissonance to be unable to take a look at oneself.
2020-01-21 07:44
Imagine thinking I would, in any way shape or form, desire to write in any sort of formal format on HLTV. You are actually insufferable, please stop posting. Goodnight and you will not get another response from me, sciolist
2020-01-21 07:46
#111
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United Kingdom Megamo10 
You sound like you have an IQ of just under 137
2020-01-21 05:01
lol I actually have a LOT of time dedicated for writing and critical analysis of writing. It's my passion and a huge portion of my main source of income. I'm not smart when it comes to other stuff :)
2020-01-21 05:03
#114
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United Kingdom Megamo10 
What is your job?
2020-01-21 05:05
I am an editor and I trade a lot of stocks. That pretty much sums up the vast majority of my income lol. Also, I now realize I think we had a discussion about my trading stocks in the past! Good to see you again!
2020-01-21 05:06
#119
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United Kingdom Megamo10 
Yes I remember :D How many years have you done it for? Also what do you edit?
2020-01-21 05:24
I actually just started haha, I was in school for it for a long while and was a chef until I landed a job at a local publishing company near me. I don't want to give too much info online I'm sorry :) But we edit and publish books, manuscripts, etc. Quite a few kinds of writing come by. It's actually really fun!
2020-01-21 05:27
#125
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United Kingdom Megamo10 
Cool. How long did it take for you to discover your passion and how many years have you been trading stocks for?
2020-01-21 05:32
I've always been extremely interested in writing. Actually, and I find it kind of funny, my passion was ignited by a child's author that was very popular in the US named R. L. Stein. Goosebumps made me want to get into writing haha And I've been trading stocks seriously for a few years. Originally I only had marginal success but I've gotten much better over time
2020-01-21 05:36
#127
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United Kingdom Megamo10 
Cool. Goodnight
2020-01-21 05:37
night!
2020-01-21 05:37
how can you get me into reading? reading is pretty fucking boring and i dont want anything that gives me an existential crisis. just a fun book to read but also intellectually stimulating
2020-01-21 06:20
Well if you think reading is boring then it might not all be for you man! I highly suggest it though! Kurt Vonnegut is an easy-to-digest and funny author so you might like him
2020-01-21 06:41
#138
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Yugoslavia seeeed 
No such thing as objectively good art. Its all subjective. Im sorry
2020-01-21 06:30
Good music: not trends
2020-01-21 02:36
Can't really go wrong with Sigur Ros
2020-01-21 02:37
Best literature I have ever read: À la recherche du temps perdu Honorable mentions Dream of the Red Chamber One Hundred Years of Solitude Brave New World Les Miserables Ulysses Macbeth Overrated/ boring 1984 Catch-22 Mein Kampf
2020-01-21 02:57
I'm going to take a not-so-wild guess and say you haven't read the entirety of In Search of Lost Time, but at least you have a surface level understanding of literature so as to claim that you have. If you aren't posturing (which would be very unlikely, given your overrated/boring list) then you have pretty respectable taste in literature
2020-01-21 03:09
Ah what a classic Mein kampf 😍
2020-01-21 05:27
oh Dream of the Red Chamber, Brave New World, Les Miserables, and One Hundred Years of Solitude are all very well written By my own admission I actually haven't read Ulysses and I very much know I should. I also just never enjoy Macbeth personally, but I do understand it is well done
2020-01-21 05:31
You wouldn't understand a modicum of Ulysses.
2020-01-21 07:07
god you are such a pretentious and posturing person. If anyone here is attempting to grab attention here it's you.
2020-01-21 07:07
Is English your second language or do you really have that tenuous a grasp on it??
2020-01-21 07:22
you can't directly compare movies to music as you did, because they are entirely different form of art. music is much more subjective, whereas if a movie is really good - it'll probably be enjoyed by 80% of those who've seen it(anecdotal speculations but have to make a point) music is rather impossible to categorize so easily because the spectrum is so wide compared to movies. people develop different tastes to sounds throughout their lives and experiences, so there is really no direct comparison in search of the "godfather" type of song, it's individual. songs like Aphex Twin - Rhubarb and Frank Ocean - Seigfried grant me some form of inner melancholical peace that other music rarely can. if im working or chilling , most likely rap/trap/whatever in the background. if i'm partying, i like my parties dirty yet pure, like Herrensauna type vibe. so it all fucking depends on the person and circumstance, sadly there's no objective "best song". you could say its some Queen song or whatever, but it'll still remain as just your own damn opinion.
2020-01-21 03:05
Yeah, I see that now. The genre of a song is much more important than the genre of a movie.
2020-01-21 03:02
I understand this is intentionally comedic but if OP genuinely believes that IMDB's top 10 is anywhere close to what a knowledgeable person's would be, they are a farce of a human. bfi.org.uk/films-tv-people/sightandsound.. This is closer, if you want to actually get a grasp on film.
2020-01-21 03:05
To be fair, IMDB is still a big improvement from what I watched before, Marvel and Star Wars. Bookmarked that website though
2020-01-21 03:08
I'm going to warn you to steer clear from most of the other user's suggestions as they are clearly posturing when it comes to literature. The majority of the people suggesting Ulysses and similar works are nothing more than posing teenager's who haven't even read the book. The rest are people suggesting 3 of the 10 books they were forced to read in school. If you genuinely want to develop a love for literature, assuming that you haven't read much and are quite young, starting with authors akin to Joyce and Proust will kill your enthusiasm for reading. I'll suggest some shorter novellas that helped me maintain my love for literature when I was a young teenager. Dostoyevski - Notes From Underground John Williams - Stoner Mishima - The Sailor Who Fell From Grace With The Sea Bulgakov - Dog's Heart Kafka - Metamorphoses Chesterton - The Man Who Was Thursday Calvino - The Castle of Crossed Destinies Gogol - The Portrait, Overcoat and Diary of a Madman (all short stories)
2020-01-21 03:55
For someone getting into reading these are terrible books to suggest. No one is going to read Kafka and want to ingest more unless they either A. have a massive predilection for reading or b. are slowly introduced to better and better literature as time passes. These books are for after you have built up an appreciation for the art Dostoyevski, Calvino, and Williams are fine in your list. He will not want to read Kafka or Gogol, and certainly not Mishima
2020-01-21 07:17
I really doubt you've read half of these, and if you have you definitely didn't understand them, hahaha. How you could think Notes from Underground is fine when the Metamorphoses isn't, when they are very similar in terms of tedium (maybe the English version is simpler?) and style just shows how inept you are as an analytical thinker. And that Mishima is less than 150 pages long and I loved it at 15. I'd rather someone get into decent things than fall into horribly banal pitfalls like Vonnegut and Orwell. Those Gogol stories are all about 40 pages long, we were taught them at age 13, BTW.
2020-01-21 07:39
imdb top250 is a really great place for excellent movies for the mainstream audience, though. you're being too edgy. not to bully or anything cuz i enjoy it myself but do you think your average 20-something year old would bother to watch a 1940 Japanese movie(also plenty of those in the top250) because it's praised by critics and lifelong enthusiasts of film? most likely not.
2020-01-21 03:14
OP specifically used the phrasing, "people who are very into film" People who are very into film would laugh their ass off at anyone who thinks that Shawshank Redemption is the best film of all time. And it isn't like the films on that list are representative of the most quality household names. Apocalypse Now, Taxi Driver and 2001 are just as well known as the Godfather and Pulp Fiction.
2020-01-21 03:16
so lets just say best = subjective
2020-01-21 03:20
Yeah, not really though, because that isn't the conversation at hand. The discussion is evidently outside of your capabilities, so don't worry about it.
2020-01-21 03:25
ok stepan i surrender
2020-01-22 02:03
sorry for your time
2020-01-22 02:04
You can feel it. If you couldnt feel it, that means you have low level music taste. I like avant-garde music. But its not popular caz its too high level music for normal people. IQ relative
2020-01-21 03:50
If someone says "high level pop, pop rapper music" hes just stupid. High level music can't be pop. And low IQ people don't try new music. Because creativity is relative with IQ.
2020-01-21 03:49
you need some more mother's milk
2020-01-21 04:29
I lost iq reading this
2020-01-21 05:26
#141
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Yugoslavia seeeed 
0/8 but ight. You aint special for listening to avant garde music lmfao
2020-01-21 06:42
#190
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Brazil Bene_Tleilax 
he is a little special cookie stfu
2020-01-21 19:12
#191
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Yugoslavia seeeed 
:( Reply needs to have actual content
2020-01-21 19:18
It's entirely subjective and so are your reasons for it not being so
2020-01-21 03:44
Okay first off it is preference. So stop rambling and no if you ask a group of film lovers their favorite movie you would get many different answers. Because of categories You'll get a lot of godfather yes because news flash it's a fucking great movie Someone into space fantasy is more likely to say star wars/trek Someone into horror would say the here's Johnny movie So on so forth. Having a "Good Taste" in something would be if you agree with someone else's preference Like a metal head would say to another metal head they have a good taste in music To the larger audience they don't like it It's only preference nothing more nothing less
2020-01-21 05:24
All of this is entirely subjective.
2020-01-21 05:45
#131
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Norway therealdagon 
personal opinion
2020-01-21 05:52
#133
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Poland Grahdens 
Congratulations. You just made the dumbest thread of the week. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
2020-01-21 05:57
#134
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North America onionmesh 
songs rap = good taste cardi b = bad taste rappers that boomers make fun of = bad taste country = bad taste edm/dubstep = bad taste books romance = bad taste books advertising # of pages = bad taste fandoms 997/100 = bad taste
2020-01-21 06:10
#139
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Brazil Collee 
Subjective, and pointless to argue. Your movies example is not true. That's only your opinion on the subject. You'll define everyone who consider themselves "really into movies" and prefer Avengers as "not into movies" people. Which is fine, you can have your own opinion and judge any movie or person. But in the end you'll have to keep it for yourself and others who share the same opinion
2020-01-21 06:37
"If you asked people who are only mildly interested in films what their favorite film is, you would get a large variety of answers. However, if you asked people who are very interested in films what their favorite film is, you will probably get many similar answers, specifically one of these: " Have you ever asked those "midly interested" persons about their taste? Because I'm sure they would name some films from that list, and no, the more a group of people explore a medium, the more answers you will get, it's natural The equivalent to that list would probably be a mix of accepted classic rock albums from the 70s-90s, but I don't think either would be the "pinnacle" of the medium according to someone who is REALLY into movies/music (what does it even mean?) Music is definitely harded to judge than books and movies because it's more abstract, despite being consumed a lot more by your average person, manly because they treat it as a mindless activity (ie: I'm listening to this playlist while I'm doing this/working out/studying/playing)
2020-01-21 07:06
+1 nice post men)))
2020-01-21 11:06
taste is subjective
2020-01-21 16:31
#188
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Germany 1337bodo 
Some music counter parts to it: - Clair de lune from Debussy performed by the the Philadelphia orchestra - B-Side of Abbey Road from the Beatles - God only Knows from the Beach Boys
2020-01-21 19:06
#189
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Brazil Bene_Tleilax 
iDK whats objectively good, all I can say is that the majority of pop artists and funk carioca are trash music
2020-01-21 19:10
Good taste in music is probably better classic and kinda game changing albums and songs, like most Pink Floyd say, Rolling Stones, Beatles, Hendrix for really famous bands/artists, but it is a bit generic yeah
2020-01-21 19:29
jazz mens
2020-01-21 19:38
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